Thank you all for the support on the video & helping me toward hitting 10,000. Due to this situation being so serious I’m going to be donating the revenue to: www.womensaid.org.uk A charity dedicated towards helping women with domestic abuse all around the world. Stay safe all, thanks again ❤
Specifically women? Wow that is weird. Especially with the fact that women are more likely to be the ones committing domestic violence against men. Donate your money to organizations who help all people with domestic abuse, not just a specific gender. Woman's Aid is not good. They only blame men, which is so sad. They contribute to the sexism against men and the ignorance of men's experiences. They are shady asf.
@ecludius7602 Women's Aid is a massively s3xist organization. They do a lot of shady stuff to convey their agenda, such as exaggerating statistics. They blame men, which is weird since there are about the same amount of male domestic victims as female domestic victims. They contribute to the problem of men being ignored in these areas. Disgusting tbh. It's sad that they are such a massive organization.
Biting until bruises is not wrong, that's okay if consented to, but to outright ignore the safe word? Horrible. He clearly has some mental problems, since he bites everyone he sees. It's sad that people are harassing him. He doesn't need to be bullied and harassed, he needs to get help.
I hope Shelby is doing okay. Sounds like, Wilbur needs to seek professional help with some personal issues, and i hope he can make amends to the people hes hurt.
Right now the backlash is fully deserved and is probably the reality check he needed to see how much he fked up. In his "apology" hes still messed up but hopefully this wakes him up.
@@x_rouxi_ian_x4804 what he gave was more of an explanation to the public and the only one who needs to get an apology is the person/people he hurt. Once he in a better place, he more than likely, make a better apology to the public. He does need support of people, to get better, and he's going to work very very hard to earn back the trust and friendship of people. If he wants what he had, he will have to put in the effort to do and be better, but he'll has to know there is a chance to redeem himself.
@@honeydroptheunicorn6557 he'll know he has a chance to redeem himself if he can show he actually gave a shit. So far he havent shown hes sorry for what he did and until then hes not forgiven. Sure we understand he needs help, its quite obvious but i find it weird hes only willing to "apologize" once hes been called out. Proving shelby statement he cares more about his fame. "Everyone has a chance to make things right" and i agree but in order for someone like him to see how fvking wrong he is then a slap in reality is needed since hes so damn delusional to not even mention her name and what he did.
@@x_rouxi_ian_x4804 so you've had a personal interaction with him, and know what's he does or doesn't think. Like I said, he gave an explanation of his behavior and has started therapy. He does need to make a better statement of his behavior than he gave, but it sounds like he was going threw a mental health episode and should have been in therapy and not a relationship. And his friends & family should have confronted him on the whole biting thing a long time ago, instead of acting like it was a funny Quirk he had.
I haven't watched the video yet (am about to), but I've always felt uncomfortable about Wilbur. He said before that he didn't like how he was when he was younger, that he was a bad person, but that he had grown. It's hard to grown out of who you are so completely though. And his music always had an incelly weird vibe around women. As a joke or parody yes, but why does EVERY song (or the ones I saw anyway) have to be THAT topic? Then his jokes on the DreamSMP and with Tommy... He'd always "play" as this manipulative abusive power hungry idealistic kind of figure. And he played it a bit too easily for traits of it not to be natural. Idk, just always had bad vibes and never fully trusted him. Will watch the video now to see what was true or not about the allegations and if my gut had any sense to it.
Oof, just watched the video and didn't expect him to do the same stuff again. Like saying it was bad but it's fine since he's "changed" now, and the "abusive" "play" being so natural to him. :(
It hurts. I would have never thought that if anything like this happened, Wilbur soot would be the one to do it. Im shocked, and conflicted. And i don’t know what to do with myself
(I'm pretty sure you responded to one of my comments on another vid. But I'm still gonna say this in case I'm mistaken) It's very, very right to NOT SUPPORT AT ALL HIS ACTIONS. And of course support the victim. But also it's not easy to detach from someone you love and when you decide what your opinion is you can go on either side. But for the moment stay on gray ground. Support the victim. Don't support the abuse. And if you want support the fact that at least Wilbur is trying to change and getting help
Hi, I suggest you take some deep breaths and disconnect from the internet for a while to go show love to your family, friends or pets. Take care of yourself :3
It's probably best to boycott anything Wilbur Soot has created. The victim needs to heal, and we as an audience need to make sure the abuser doesn't profit. Consider the responses of his old friends while you process it; they'll have a deeper understanding than us. I hope your conflict settles in time.
For me, this is not the first time this has happened and I don't have much to recommend other than focusing on something else, activity, content... the feeling of seeing someone you admire, adore, love, etc. fall. like this... if you want you can do like me and wait... support the victim, give them the space they may need, don't pay much attention to the abuser (try not to give comments and things like that) and remember that, although it is not an excuse, even the abuser sometimes needs some kind of help (usually psychological). (i'm not an english speaker.. so,my english is not always good)
Wilbur Soot's response reads like a legal document. Less of a "I'm sorry for my actions" and more of a "my lawyer told me to say this". He focused on himself in the response. I don't want to hate him, but I see no reason to trust him if several of his close friends have taken Shubble's side. They know him better than I do, and they find him vile. I'm just worried that one of my friends (who i'm 80% sure is a wilbur soot kinnie) might be sympathetic towards Soot. I don't want to be bitter with them, but an apology means he admits it was abuse. I don't think we can be friends if they support an abuser. His music career was promising too, but no! He's a terrible person!!! Can't listen to his songs anymore without thinking of what he's done!!!!!! Fucking hell. I hope Shubble is doing well. (Edit: forgot a word)
as someone who previously kinned him, i will 100% say i dont support him, only support ill give him is if he goes to therapy and be truthful about his behavior and get better. i hate that one of the only straight white men i thought i could reasonably trust(not alot tbh bc its the internet but still, some trust was still there) turned out to be abusive, but im on Shelbys side for this through and through
Also the fact that most songs are kind of....gross? Like if you listen (even before all this) they were very sketchy, I originally could only listen to a few just cause the others made me feel uncomfortable now I'm not listening to any. Feel bad for all involved (except for Wilbur of course) I pray for Shelby 😢
@@Happy_Potato13 It's ironic cause there's one where the main chorus is literally "What's this, the consequences of my actions?" It's like he knew that this would happen
I heard Wilbur intentionally threw a f*cking apple on Techno’s surgery wound. Tbf, I hope he’s okay mentally. I hope Shubble is okay mentally and physically. Technoblade for sure wouldn’t be proud of his best friend.
@@Cemoniepooh I agree. I don't think it's cool to speak on behalf of the dead. Everyone has their own opinion on this whole situation, but this is absolutely unrelated to Techno, so just why bring him up? I see no valid reason.
I believe there could be more information to be known before people can make accusations on Wilbur though their is probably bias with me being one of his fans but that is just my opinion
I used to watch Wilbur before and listen to his music. I genuinely thought he was a cool, kind guy, and I found his stuff when I was pretty depressed. Seems I was wrong about him. It’s really disappointing and sad to see. Best wishes to Shelby of course, and anyone else he may have hurt. Stay safe guys.
It's completely wild how he had everyone thinking of him as a sweet and genuinely kind individual while being a sick, narcissistic @buser.. has me doubting any rationality in our society
This is why abuse is so difficult to see, because it’s often hiding in plain sight or covered up with manipulation, like how Wilbur says in his response that he “thought it was consensual”. Not to mention the victim blaming/gaslighting that is often involved as well. Often people come out of abusive relationships and realise there were red flags or actions that they didn’t see as abusive, because they were so blinded by manipulation. Sorry for the rant reply btw, I just hope Shelby gets justice.
@@squiddielad5941 you are so right. i also hope shelby can heal from this because i feel like bringing this up and talking about it must have been really hard as well as somewhat relieving. she was really brave to do so, and i'm glad she got out of the relationship before it would have escalated even more. and maybe will can work on himself in the future, but he cannot change the past.
Do not feel bad. Even Shelby, who dated him, who was abused by him, said it took months for her to realize it was abuse. Like she said, Wilbur is very dangerous because he’s a master manipulator.
Same here. Especially back in one stream when he admitted he hated who he was when he was younger, which yes shows he can acknowledge mistakes and grow as a person, but also could have him prone to still having toxic traits.
@@jessy1982 that wasn’t a red flag for me I can also admit I was a shitty kid I mean a lot Of us were. What got me was when he would kill peoples animals/pets and do things when he was told not to on the dream smp. It was like back in 2020 I mean it’s the whole disrespect for me like dude you were asked not to
@@bubblesawesome3284I think he may have a mental disability like i do? I always act very similar to the way he does i noticed, and i have a mental disability (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder). So maybe that could be it? You couldnt blame him for that, people with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder never get treatment or attention, unlike autistic people for example, or depression (even though depression is far less severe 🫤)
I honestly don’t know how to feel. Wilbur’s “Apology” was an apology, I think the fact he has gotten help / is getting help for these things shouldn’t be ignored, but he still has to face the consequences of his actions. What he did to Shelby was definitely not good, and I can feel all the pain (both physically and mentally) that she went through. But I also believe it’s possible Wilbur has changed since then, and this could have been years ago this happened. Again, that doesn’t excuse his actions, he needs to face the consequences on his own.
I've been a fan of Shelby since I learned about MCC, and I feel so sorry for her going through this. Also Imo Wilbur should be charged with domestic violence and abuse from all of the people he has bitten
The fact he did it to Nikki until he BRUISED her is insane... Especially since she's a fair bit younger than him and there was always this impression that she trusted him as an older figure.
Plus that wasn't really and apology as dream said he had no reason to fear her name like she did hi. He didn't even have to respond shubble never said who it was, it was thought to be him. He never talked about her only him.
Why has the last month just been so… awful. Everything seems to be crashing down upon some of my favorite TH-camrs and it’s hurting me a lot. This all sucks so much.
Yoo, thank you for informing me, i didnt know that happened at all, i used to watch his vids when bored cause he did have somewhat funny content, i did not know he was like that. Also, good luck reachin 10,000 subs, i know you can do it, at least you deserve it!
8:26 im literally crying my eyes out im youngish and ive loved wilbur sense around late 2018-2019 and looked up to him and loved watching his streams and listening to his music it breaks my heart to know someone i care for and deeply looked up to abused someone who cared about him i think im done with the internet today thank you for awareing me on the situation 💔
The "biting" problem is WILD. I have never ever heard of an adult having an issue with impulsive biting, usually thats something only happens with toddlers.. or dogs. Wtf
No Wilbur, share the screenshots if you have them, this is an allegation. I'm still genuinely willing to believe that this was a misunderstanding, he thought it was consensual, she didn't (which would still be really bad, but not irredeemable). but so far we have an accusation of known biting problem and a half-assed apology that I don't even think HE wrote. Support for Shelby.
I would say my opinion but if I do I know i will start more drama so I'm just going to say this Im still processing my mental health so I will continue to support Wilbur until I get my mental health figured out
biting??!?!?!?! that is actually so weird, if you really want to bite stuff just get a chew toy and bruising?!?!?!? damn edit: i also watched the rest of the video, it gets worse. he in a response he said he thought his behavior was enjoyable???? biting people, and being forceful is not enjoyable. Shelby definitely did not enjoy it.
@@jessy1982Safe word is literally something used in almost any kink or sexual act. The most abusive relationships are ones WITHOUT a safe word also, many many people like being bit. Hot asf to me imo
@@socire72 I know that, but in this case she didn't seem to like it, and the safe word was almost like a compromise rather than an active part of a fun activity.
So disappointed in him. He helped me through a lot of depression and so does his music and then I hear this? Yep I’m ready to cry. Why why why do content creators have to do shit like this?
No, thats not defamation. Its an allegation ,it can only be defamation if she DEFINITELY lied. And it can only be abuse if he DEFINITELY KNOWINGLY did it.
All love for Shelby, I hope she's doing well. I can see both sides, both deserve some sort of help. That being said this does not excuse Wilbur's actions, but that doesnt also excuse harassment of Wilbur. I like to believe that people can grow and change, but we can only watch and wait.
Bro, I loved wilbur for years... I can never support him again, I'm a victim to many forms of abuse, it hurts to see one of my ideals is an abuser. Just saying, Techno would be so disappointed... I'm waiting for Phil's, Big Q, and Tom's responses.
My heart goes out to Shelby, truly, it’s awful that popular people turn out like this. Abuse is inexcusable. Also I’d like to clarify that British houses don’t “usually have bugs in them”.
Honestly this whole situation is insane. Especially the fact it's blown up so much in 2 days, it feels more like its been happening for weeks. Whilst all the perspectives on Wilbur and Shelby have been shared, I feel like more people need to recognise the inexcusable behaviour of the community. It's very important to support the victim, and the fact that people seem to be more set on sending so much hate to Will and pushing other CC's to share their thoughts is terrifying. People go on about not supporting abuse, but then proceed to verbally abuse others. It's especially disheartening to read that there have been death threats to Wilbur. I personally believe if not in reformation, then punishment to fit the crime, and wishing death upon someone who's admitted to having a messed up mentality already is frankly awful. In no way am I defending Wilbur's actions, nor using mental health as a crutch, however I also will not defend the way people have treated the situation. Also this is the first video I've seen where the creator shares a level headed perspective on all this, so thank you.
genuinely i think that even though what wilbur did is really bad, there are 2 things i have to say about the situation - he definitely has mental issues considering how he bites everyone, so it isn't specifically how he treated shubble - he was quick to respond and even if people don't like his apology, he did admit to what he did and that's already way better than all the other youtuber apology videos That said however, what he did, especially pinning her down is completely unacceptable and even if it is because of mental issues, we should be giving shelby more support just like blissolic stated. also 1 more thing this is a lot less bad that the allegations and things illu and sponker did, and we definitely should not scale our reaction to match that of especially what sponker did. edit: i want to clear up the fact that i think that wilbur is clearly in the wrong and has done something horrible and i am not trying to defend him in any way here edit: new allegations, it's over.
I think people use "mental health issues" as too much of a general crutch. He just had a toxic habit of biting people. If he's also depressed or something, biting people isn't really a trait that's common to depression. Though I can see it contributing to him being more careless about his "hobby", it comes from him as a person first.
@@jessy1982 out of all the toxic traits people have, i don't think biting is one. it's almost definitely something else, and if depression is not the only mental health issue or mental condition. i wouldn't see why someone would have a hobby of biting people and my guess is it was from young, but at the same time something must have happened for him to develop it, it's not like people just decide one day 'you know what?i like biting people'
@@jessy1982 but at the same time i agree he seems to be very sloppy about how he carries himself as a person behind the camera, and careless about how he treats others, and that is something he must fix
6:44 correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this mean that he is sorry for his actions? Many people say that he didn't apologize for his actions but isn't this technically an apology?? (Open to valid arguments)
@sarahcrombie1564 yea ig ur right, the apology would be acceptable if it was as longer as the rest if his paragraphs. And If he talked a bit less about himself...
Dude... the sad part is i used to love wilbur... i mean i loved all his songs, i loved all his streams and videos.. im not gonna say what he did was right, but he must have been going through something so bad... now i feel bad for loving what he did... i dont knoe if he can redeem himself...
He could’ve helped his situation slightly by actually apologizing but he just tried making himself seem like the main victim, he tried to divert your attention and didn’t even say sorry in the end. He dug himself a deeper grave. I have a friend who bites and she has never bitten me til the point of bruising. There is no excuse for causing pain. (It does hurt a lot but she usually stops when I ask her to)
This is wrong of him... like really wrong But if he did seek therapy I'm proud of him he realized he's wrong it seems like he is trying to change and he hope is
I feel like we shouldn’t debate on whose in the right or if Wilbur is an abxser, we shouldn’t get too involved with this and that we should let Shelby decide whether if she wants to accept the apology or not.
Ngl, i know how it feel to be bite because my nephew bite me on the arm once, it did hurt but not too much but real biting might hurt very. I know you all are now disappointed and angry, annoying at Wilbur, he did do some very bad and abused stuffs like biting, yeah yeah, but i know how he feel, no mean for you all. I also be someone who is kind of manipulative and tiny aggressively. That was in the past now. I'm still a different person now but we all know, Wilbur was someone that we loved and always admire him but now everything changed, biting are thing that are abusive and aggressive. I know i know... but i also feel bad for Shubble too. But Wilbur? I know i shouldn't be sad or bad for him but he was nice and sweet, funny. Always having fun with his friends especially Tommy, he see him as a big brother while Wilbur see him as a little brother. But now at the end, every fucking things changed. Pretty sure tommy is disappointed now at him too. But IF one day, i see a comment who write "kill yourself, Wilbur". That mean you are not a person who must cared for someone who is getting harrassed and bullying by some mean comments from what he do or did! I fucking know he a manipulative and abusive guy, but in the past we all have that. He normal he a human not monster. Maybe it true. He does bite everything and everyone, his friends. Yeah! But please, stop bordering the guy, leave him be. He isn't our problem or issues. So shut up and move on. If you don't want to think about him? Then watched something else to distract yourself. I respect you all i really do and Also Wilbur soot's ex-girlfriend, Shubble too. But leave Wilbur out of all our minds. Leave him be for once of all god. Hard to forgive someone. Isn't it... (I quite not good at english write but i try my best. Also move on and forget about him.)
After Wilbur join the Qsmp, I think this guy is kinda weird at thats point and very strange.....that time I feel like this is not the Wilbur I know after 2 years this allegation came out and my thoughts of Wilbur seriously true....I support Subbly now and she deserves it.
Not defending him, he disgusts me. You don’t know Wilbur you know only a FRACTION of what he shows, this is an example. Don’t say you KNOW him because you don’t, we don’t know the content creator
@@sarahcrombie1564 I don't know of any true apology that does not include self reflection and a change of mindset on behalf of the guilty. He was trying to show regret for his actions, whether he initially perceived them as bad or not.
@@uggmonster8795 fair enough, but I still feel like he should of made it less about himself, and seems like all the focus is on him when it shouldn’t be
I not saying whos side im on with this because i need more informaion from both sides first, but there was no need for shubble to bring up/make fun of wilburs living conditions. To me thats crosssing the line
Im not siding with anyone tho bec in the old photos willbur had bruises and in one picture he looked like he was about to cry. And willbur didnt comfirm the 'safe word' btw shubbles has like a vid or a post of someone telling him to khs
I need to talk about something that just happened with wilber soot and my best friend. My best friend just texted me a 2am. She knows I'm not allowed to text past nine, so she only texts me to tell me to go to sleep or if something is really wrong. So I called her and immediately heard her crying her eyes out. Something that she never does is curse, but something must have broken that. I feel so horrible! She looked up to him! Seriously, she is going through a lot, and he was always the one to comfort her. I hate seeing her this way.
How can u support both sides? There is no defending abuse, doesn’t matter what Wilbur was going through he should’ve have done what he did. AND then what he claims to be an apology was really just him making it about himself like tf
@@sarahcrombie1564Jesus loves all. As a christian, i live a life dedicated to Jesus. So of course i support both sides. And how can it NOT be about himself? Isnt is supposedly his problem?
@@socire72 it’s about Shelby she was the one that got abused BY HIM, his apology was pathetic. The focus is all on him when it shouldn’t be the focus should be on Shelby. U sayimg u support both sides is basically saying u support him being an abuser
@@cylerinque8354 ants are very heard to get rid of plus they travel In colonies which makes it harder to stop them. They stink up everything and get all in your food and clothes and lay eggs in your house it’s just disgusting. Definitely not anything I want to experience.
Thank you all for the support on the video & helping me toward hitting 10,000.
Due to this situation being so serious I’m going to be donating the revenue to: www.womensaid.org.uk
A charity dedicated towards helping women with domestic abuse all around the world.
Stay safe all, thanks again ❤
Specifically women? Wow that is weird. Especially with the fact that women are more likely to be the ones committing domestic violence against men.
Donate your money to organizations who help all people with domestic abuse, not just a specific gender.
Woman's Aid is not good. They only blame men, which is so sad.
They contribute to the sexism against men and the ignorance of men's experiences. They are shady asf.
@ecludius7602 Women's Aid is a massively s3xist organization. They do a lot of shady stuff to convey their agenda, such as exaggerating statistics. They blame men, which is weird since there are about the same amount of male domestic victims as female domestic victims. They contribute to the problem of men being ignored in these areas. Disgusting tbh. It's sad that they are such a massive organization.
I used to look up to this guy. Sad times.
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@@revolvergod1 hes not a bot lol
@@revolvergod1A bot with 6 million subscribers?
Biting until bruises is not wrong, that's okay if consented to, but to outright ignore the safe word? Horrible.
He clearly has some mental problems, since he bites everyone he sees. It's sad that people are harassing him. He doesn't need to be bullied and harassed, he needs to get help.
⟟ agree with this.
completely agree. i do feel like this would've been better kept offline in general though, just my perspective
I agree. What if Wilbur has a disease for this or couldn’t control himself? That was in the past! He could have changed!
It’s not a good thing but to me him saying he’s changed is good and the fact that he even tryed to get help is a good thing
did you ignore the "wilbur pinned me down to show how much stronger he was" part?
I hope Shelby is doing okay.
Sounds like, Wilbur needs to seek professional help with some personal issues, and i hope he can make amends to the people hes hurt.
He is having therapy
Right now the backlash is fully deserved and is probably the reality check he needed to see how much he fked up. In his "apology" hes still messed up but hopefully this wakes him up.
@@x_rouxi_ian_x4804 what he gave was more of an explanation to the public and the only one who needs to get an apology is the person/people he hurt. Once he in a better place, he more than likely, make a better apology to the public.
He does need support of people, to get better, and he's going to work very very hard to earn back the trust and friendship of people. If he wants what he had, he will have to put in the effort to do and be better, but he'll has to know there is a chance to redeem himself.
@@honeydroptheunicorn6557 he'll know he has a chance to redeem himself if he can show he actually gave a shit. So far he havent shown hes sorry for what he did and until then hes not forgiven. Sure we understand he needs help, its quite obvious but i find it weird hes only willing to "apologize" once hes been called out. Proving shelby statement he cares more about his fame.
"Everyone has a chance to make things right" and i agree but in order for someone like him to see how fvking wrong he is then a slap in reality is needed since hes so damn delusional to not even mention her name and what he did.
@@x_rouxi_ian_x4804 so you've had a personal interaction with him, and know what's he does or doesn't think.
Like I said, he gave an explanation of his behavior and has started therapy.
He does need to make a better statement of his behavior than he gave, but it sounds like he was going threw a mental health episode and should have been in therapy and not a relationship.
And his friends & family should have confronted him on the whole biting thing a long time ago, instead of acting like it was a funny Quirk he had.
That's crazy. It's crazy that I used to watch these people a couple years back when I was younger. They all just hide in plain sight.
I haven't watched the video yet (am about to), but I've always felt uncomfortable about Wilbur. He said before that he didn't like how he was when he was younger, that he was a bad person, but that he had grown. It's hard to grown out of who you are so completely though. And his music always had an incelly weird vibe around women. As a joke or parody yes, but why does EVERY song (or the ones I saw anyway) have to be THAT topic? Then his jokes on the DreamSMP and with Tommy... He'd always "play" as this manipulative abusive power hungry idealistic kind of figure. And he played it a bit too easily for traits of it not to be natural.
Idk, just always had bad vibes and never fully trusted him. Will watch the video now to see what was true or not about the allegations and if my gut had any sense to it.
Oof, just watched the video and didn't expect him to do the same stuff again. Like saying it was bad but it's fine since he's "changed" now, and the "abusive" "play" being so natural to him. :(
The sad part is that I used to love his songs and it got me through some hard times, but now, I don't even more...
Me too, but now I think it’s gonna make me sadder
I feel you. 😢
@@SmilyAmber-xt8my his songs were never good😬😬😬
@@stevelives4344 the Lovejoy songs were good, separate the art from the artist.
@@stevelives4344 Some of them were good. Maybe you just don't like Indie music. 🤷🏻♀️
It hurts. I would have never thought that if anything like this happened, Wilbur soot would be the one to do it. Im shocked, and conflicted. And i don’t know what to do with myself
(I'm pretty sure you responded to one of my comments on another vid. But I'm still gonna say this in case I'm mistaken)
It's very, very right to NOT SUPPORT AT ALL HIS ACTIONS. And of course support the victim. But also it's not easy to detach from someone you love and when you decide what your opinion is you can go on either side.
But for the moment stay on gray ground. Support the victim. Don't support the abuse. And if you want support the fact that at least Wilbur is trying to change and getting help
Hi, I suggest you take some deep breaths and disconnect from the internet for a while to go show love to your family, friends or pets. Take care of yourself :3
It's probably best to boycott anything Wilbur Soot has created. The victim needs to heal, and we as an audience need to make sure the abuser doesn't profit. Consider the responses of his old friends while you process it; they'll have a deeper understanding than us. I hope your conflict settles in time.
@@Ania_fetsI’m gonna frame that comment
For me, this is not the first time this has happened and I don't have much to recommend other than focusing on something else, activity, content... the feeling of seeing someone you admire, adore, love, etc. fall. like this... if you want you can do like me and wait... support the victim, give them the space they may need, don't pay much attention to the abuser (try not to give comments and things like that) and remember that, although it is not an excuse, even the abuser sometimes needs some kind of help (usually psychological). (i'm not an english speaker.. so,my english is not always good)
Wilbur Soot's response reads like a legal document. Less of a "I'm sorry for my actions" and more of a "my lawyer told me to say this". He focused on himself in the response. I don't want to hate him, but I see no reason to trust him if several of his close friends have taken Shubble's side. They know him better than I do, and they find him vile.
I'm just worried that one of my friends (who i'm 80% sure is a wilbur soot kinnie) might be sympathetic towards Soot. I don't want to be bitter with them, but an apology means he admits it was abuse. I don't think we can be friends if they support an abuser. His music career was promising too, but no! He's a terrible person!!! Can't listen to his songs anymore without thinking of what he's done!!!!!!
Fucking hell. I hope Shubble is doing well. (Edit: forgot a word)
I agree with you 100%
as someone who previously kinned him, i will 100% say i dont support him, only support ill give him is if he goes to therapy and be truthful about his behavior and get better. i hate that one of the only straight white men i thought i could reasonably trust(not alot tbh bc its the internet but still, some trust was still there) turned out to be abusive, but im on Shelbys side for this through and through
Also the fact that most songs are kind of....gross? Like if you listen (even before all this) they were very sketchy, I originally could only listen to a few just cause the others made me feel uncomfortable now I'm not listening to any. Feel bad for all involved (except for Wilbur of course) I pray for Shelby 😢
@@Happy_Potato13 It's ironic cause there's one where the main chorus is literally "What's this, the consequences of my actions?" It's like he knew that this would happen
@@partiallypeculiar4545 lol
Pinning her down and saying there is nothing u can do is absolutely vile
Kinda feels like underline rape threat. Like there was nothing she could do if he had.
@@yourlocalstraycat1835 Not even underline. Telling her she is straight up powerless in such a intimate way is abhorrent.
Can't believe Wilbur confirmed the Vampire Allegations
i mean he kinda does look like a vampire lol, tall, pale, dark hair..
Hes scary enough
If he did that to me i honestly wouldn't be complaining
you're weird bro 🪦
@@roseree756dawg what 💀
His response is more of a “my lawyer wrote this” than a “I’m sorry for my actions”
Techno would be so disappointed of one of his best friends...
I heard Wilbur intentionally threw a f*cking apple on Techno’s surgery wound.
Tbf, I hope he’s okay mentally. I hope Shubble is okay mentally and physically. Technoblade for sure wouldn’t be proud of his best friend.
It’s disgusting for you to even say something like this.
@@Cemoniepoohit’s true though.
@@Cemoniepooh I agree. I don't think it's cool to speak on behalf of the dead.
Everyone has their own opinion on this whole situation, but this is absolutely unrelated to Techno, so just why bring him up? I see no valid reason.
I believe there could be more information to be known before people can make accusations on Wilbur though their is probably bias with me being one of his fans but that is just my opinion
I used to watch Wilbur before and listen to his music. I genuinely thought he was a cool, kind guy, and I found his stuff when I was pretty depressed. Seems I was wrong about him. It’s really disappointing and sad to see.
Best wishes to Shelby of course, and anyone else he may have hurt. Stay safe guys.
Sad to see someone who you used to watch, have these horrible allegations.
And his response was so bad 😭😭😭
It's completely wild how he had everyone thinking of him as a sweet and genuinely kind individual while being a sick, narcissistic @buser.. has me doubting any rationality in our society
This is why abuse is so difficult to see, because it’s often hiding in plain sight or covered up with manipulation, like how Wilbur says in his response that he “thought it was consensual”. Not to mention the victim blaming/gaslighting that is often involved as well. Often people come out of abusive relationships and realise there were red flags or actions that they didn’t see as abusive, because they were so blinded by manipulation. Sorry for the rant reply btw, I just hope Shelby gets justice.
@@squiddielad5941 you are so right. i also hope shelby can heal from this because i feel like bringing this up and talking about it must have been really hard as well as somewhat relieving. she was really brave to do so, and i'm glad she got out of the relationship before it would have escalated even more. and maybe will can work on himself in the future, but he cannot change the past.
Do not feel bad. Even Shelby, who dated him, who was abused by him, said it took months for her to realize it was abuse. Like she said, Wilbur is very dangerous because he’s a master manipulator.
@@yeetyeet1655 exactly. well, at least everyone can see it now.
@@yeetyeet1655i guess he had a lot more in common with his dsmp character than we realized.
He always gave me a weird vibe but he never really did anything to make me more cautious of him until now. Man always trust your gut feeling
Yes I also always had a weird feeling when i saw his videos
Same here. Especially back in one stream when he admitted he hated who he was when he was younger, which yes shows he can acknowledge mistakes and grow as a person, but also could have him prone to still having toxic traits.
@@jessy1982 that wasn’t a red flag for me I can also admit I was a shitty kid I mean a lot Of us were. What got me was when he would kill peoples animals/pets and do things when he was told not to on the dream smp. It was like back in 2020 I mean it’s the whole disrespect for me like dude you were asked not to
@@bubblesawesome3284I think he may have a mental disability like i do? I always act very similar to the way he does i noticed, and i have a mental disability (attention deficit hyperactivity disorder). So maybe that could be it? You couldnt blame him for that, people with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder never get treatment or attention, unlike autistic people for example, or depression (even though depression is far less severe 🫤)
@@socire72 dude I have ADHD too I don’t blame my disorder for shit I do I’m still responsible for my own actions.
I hate everything
I'm done
you’re so real
me too
That’s one way to deal with things lol
Real (I want to Kms)
I honestly don’t know how to feel. Wilbur’s “Apology” was an apology, I think the fact he has gotten help / is getting help for these things shouldn’t be ignored, but he still has to face the consequences of his actions. What he did to Shelby was definitely not good, and I can feel all the pain (both physically and mentally) that she went through. But I also believe it’s possible Wilbur has changed since then, and this could have been years ago this happened. Again, that doesn’t excuse his actions, he needs to face the consequences on his own.
I've been a fan of Shelby since I learned about MCC, and I feel so sorry for her going through this. Also Imo Wilbur should be charged with domestic violence and abuse from all of the people he has bitten
The fact he did it to Nikki until he BRUISED her is insane... Especially since she's a fair bit younger than him and there was always this impression that she trusted him as an older figure.
bro this whole entire situation is crazy like i’m still tryna process it all💀
Let's say he has worked on himself, that's great good for him, but he still did abuser her. Thanks for making a shorter video about this
Plus that wasn't really and apology as dream said he had no reason to fear her name like she did hi. He didn't even have to respond shubble never said who it was, it was thought to be him. He never talked about her only him.
Well said
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Thanks for uploading this man, I needed on explanation on this situation.
Why has the last month just been so… awful. Everything seems to be crashing down upon some of my favorite TH-camrs and it’s hurting me a lot. This all sucks so much.
Yoo, thank you for informing me, i didnt know that happened at all, i used to watch his vids when bored cause he did have somewhat funny content, i did not know he was like that. Also, good luck reachin 10,000 subs, i know you can do it, at least you deserve it!
he really meant it when he said "rawr ill bite u :3"
Thank you for all the information. I think we all needed to know this.
I don’t even know what to do anymore.
8:26 im literally crying my eyes out im youngish and ive loved wilbur sense around late 2018-2019 and looked up to him and loved watching his streams and listening to his music it breaks my heart to know someone i care for and deeply looked up to abused someone who cared about him i think im done with the internet today thank you for awareing me on the situation 💔
Ever since Techno died, dsmp/qsmp has gone downhill.
The "biting" problem is WILD. I have never ever heard of an adult having an issue with impulsive biting, usually thats something only happens with toddlers.. or dogs. Wtf
People are weird. A friend of mine dated an older guy who liked to lick off all of her face makeup.
appreciate you keeping us informed, fire video as usual.
No Wilbur, share the screenshots if you have them, this is an allegation. I'm still genuinely willing to believe that this was a misunderstanding, he thought it was consensual, she didn't (which would still be really bad, but not irredeemable). but so far we have an accusation of known biting problem and a half-assed apology that I don't even think HE wrote. Support for Shelby.
I would say my opinion but if I do I know i will start more drama so I'm just going to say this
Im still processing my mental health so I will continue to support Wilbur until I get my mental health figured out
biting??!?!?!?! that is actually so weird, if you really want to bite stuff just get a chew toy
and bruising?!?!?!? damn
edit: i also watched the rest of the video, it gets worse.
he in a response he said he thought his behavior was enjoyable???? biting people, and being forceful is not enjoyable. Shelby definitely did not enjoy it.
The fact they needed a safe word and she used it is pretty obvious he was crossing a line, but he still acts like he was "surprised".
@@jessy1982Safe word is literally something used in almost any kink or sexual act. The most abusive relationships are ones WITHOUT a safe word
also, many many people like being bit. Hot asf to me imo
@@jessy1982
Safe words are fine! it’s just he didn’t fuckin stop.
@@socire72 I know that, but in this case she didn't seem to like it, and the safe word was almost like a compromise rather than an active part of a fun activity.
So disappointed in him. He helped me through a lot of depression and so does his music and then I hear this? Yep I’m ready to cry. Why why why do content creators have to do shit like this?
I don´t know. I have the same feeling but head up my dear, there is still hope that he can improve
@@juliamarieraubach9654 Thank you, that means a lot. I hope he can give a proper apology and everything can not be the same, but better.
she def wanted people to know who but couldn't say bc of defamation
No, thats not defamation. Its an allegation ,it can only be defamation if she DEFINITELY lied. And it can only be abuse if he DEFINITELY KNOWINGLY did it.
@@socire72 maybe I got it confused but I thought he could claim it’s defamation if she said his name
I didn't even know that Shubble was in a relationship with Wilbur
I didn't even know who Shubble was before this.
All love for Shelby, I hope she's doing well. I can see both sides, both deserve some sort of help. That being said this does not excuse Wilbur's actions, but that doesnt also excuse harassment of Wilbur. I like to believe that people can grow and change, but we can only watch and wait.
Bro, I loved wilbur for years... I can never support him again, I'm a victim to many forms of abuse, it hurts to see one of my ideals is an abuser.
Just saying, Techno would be so disappointed... I'm waiting for Phil's, Big Q, and Tom's responses.
My heart goes out to Shelby, truly, it’s awful that popular people turn out like this. Abuse is inexcusable. Also I’d like to clarify that British houses don’t “usually have bugs in them”.
WERE GETTING ON RAY WILLIAM JOHNSON WITH DIS ONE 🗣️🔥🔥
I used to read xreader fanfics on wattpad abt this guy 😨😨
Thanks for the laugh I needed that after watching this video 😅
damn mate you should be accused as well wtf LMAO
im straight, but hes hot asf. I get it.
Thx for informing me when these types of things happen
Honestly this whole situation is insane. Especially the fact it's blown up so much in 2 days, it feels more like its been happening for weeks. Whilst all the perspectives on Wilbur and Shelby have been shared, I feel like more people need to recognise the inexcusable behaviour of the community.
It's very important to support the victim, and the fact that people seem to be more set on sending so much hate to Will and pushing other CC's to share their thoughts is terrifying. People go on about not supporting abuse, but then proceed to verbally abuse others. It's especially disheartening to read that there have been death threats to Wilbur. I personally believe if not in reformation, then punishment to fit the crime, and wishing death upon someone who's admitted to having a messed up mentality already is frankly awful.
In no way am I defending Wilbur's actions, nor using mental health as a crutch, however I also will not defend the way people have treated the situation.
Also this is the first video I've seen where the creator shares a level headed perspective on all this, so thank you.
genuinely i think that even though what wilbur did is really bad, there are 2 things i have to say about the situation
- he definitely has mental issues considering how he bites everyone, so it isn't specifically how he treated shubble
- he was quick to respond and even if people don't like his apology, he did admit to what he did and that's already way better than all the other youtuber apology videos
That said however, what he did, especially pinning her down is completely unacceptable and even if it is because of mental issues, we should be giving shelby more support just like blissolic stated.
also 1 more thing this is a lot less bad that the allegations and things illu and sponker did, and we definitely should not scale our reaction to match that of especially what sponker did.
edit: i want to clear up the fact that i think that wilbur is clearly in the wrong and has done something horrible and i am not trying to defend him in any way here
edit: new allegations, it's over.
I think people use "mental health issues" as too much of a general crutch. He just had a toxic habit of biting people. If he's also depressed or something, biting people isn't really a trait that's common to depression. Though I can see it contributing to him being more careless about his "hobby", it comes from him as a person first.
@@jessy1982 out of all the toxic traits people have, i don't think biting is one. it's almost definitely something else, and if depression is not the only mental health issue or mental condition. i wouldn't see why someone would have a hobby of biting people and my guess is it was from young, but at the same time something must have happened for him to develop it, it's not like people just decide one day 'you know what?i like biting people'
@@jessy1982 but at the same time i agree he seems to be very sloppy about how he carries himself as a person behind the camera, and careless about how he treats others, and that is something he must fix
Bro became a new yorker
6:44 correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this mean that he is sorry for his actions? Many people say that he didn't apologize for his actions but isn't this technically an apology?? (Open to valid arguments)
Well I wouldn’t say it is bc he just made the situation about himself
@sarahcrombie1564 yea ig ur right, the apology would be acceptable if it was as longer as the rest if his paragraphs. And If he talked a bit less about himself...
@@ozzys_atelier yes definitely
bros the chain chomper from mario
“Sorry” as intentful as it sounds won’t change anything, actions will.
The sad part is that we will never know what the real story was.
Dude... the sad part is i used to love wilbur... i mean i loved all his songs, i loved all his streams and videos.. im not gonna say what he did was right, but he must have been going through something so bad... now i feel bad for loving what he did... i dont knoe if he can redeem himself...
He could’ve helped his situation slightly by actually apologizing but he just tried making himself seem like the main victim, he tried to divert your attention and didn’t even say sorry in the end. He dug himself a deeper grave.
I have a friend who bites and she has never bitten me til the point of bruising. There is no excuse for causing pain. (It does hurt a lot but she usually stops when I ask her to)
This is wrong of him... like really wrong
But if he did seek therapy I'm proud of him he realized he's wrong it seems like he is trying to change and he hope is
I feel like we shouldn’t debate on whose in the right or if Wilbur is an abxser, we shouldn’t get too involved with this and that we should let Shelby decide whether if she wants to accept the apology or not.
update video on the new allegations has to happen soon
hey bro i saw how smooth ur game is how did u get that motion blur?
First illumina, now wilbur
Solid video as always Bliss. Well done
Damn ... I was just checking some of his old videos yesterday
proud of u buddy for releasing this so quick. road to 30k soon. also clean commentating and i didnt get bored gang so good shit 🫶🏼🫶🏼🫶🏼
At this point at least it’s not another PED accusation
This is a very concise video! Thank you!
Damm that explains alot now
Ngl, i know how it feel to be bite because my nephew bite me on the arm once, it did hurt but not too much but real biting might hurt very.
I know you all are now disappointed and angry, annoying at Wilbur, he did do some very bad and abused stuffs like biting, yeah yeah, but i know how he feel, no mean for you all. I also be someone who is kind of manipulative and tiny aggressively. That was in the past now.
I'm still a different person now but we all know, Wilbur was someone that we loved and always admire him but now everything changed, biting are thing that are abusive and aggressive. I know i know... but i also feel bad for Shubble too.
But Wilbur? I know i shouldn't be sad or bad for him but he was nice and sweet, funny. Always having fun with his friends especially Tommy, he see him as a big brother while Wilbur see him as a little brother. But now at the end, every fucking things changed. Pretty sure tommy is disappointed now at him too.
But IF one day, i see a comment who write "kill yourself, Wilbur". That mean you are not a person who must cared for someone who is getting harrassed and bullying by some mean comments from what he do or did!
I fucking know he a manipulative and abusive guy, but in the past we all have that. He normal he a human not monster. Maybe it true. He does bite everything and everyone, his friends. Yeah!
But please, stop bordering the guy, leave him be. He isn't our problem or issues. So shut up and move on. If you don't want to think about him? Then watched something else to distract yourself.
I respect you all i really do and Also Wilbur soot's ex-girlfriend, Shubble too. But leave Wilbur out of all our minds. Leave him be for once of all god.
Hard to forgive someone. Isn't it...
(I quite not good at english write but i try my best. Also move on and forget about him.)
I can’t believe this . I’ve watched soot for so long man.
After Wilbur join the Qsmp, I think this guy is kinda weird at thats point and very strange.....that time I feel like this is not the Wilbur I know after 2 years this allegation came out and my thoughts of Wilbur seriously true....I support Subbly now and she deserves it.
oh yeah I wonder whats gonna happen with Talullah now on qsmp
@@grandmarie she will know that her father is a bustard.
Not defending him, he disgusts me. You don’t know Wilbur you know only a FRACTION of what he shows, this is an example. Don’t say you KNOW him because you don’t, we don’t know the content creator
He wilbite
He wilbruise
But most importantly
He wilbur
These are the wierdest allegations but also really fucked up
To be fair, he did apologize at the end of the third paragraph
Hardly a apology when he just made it about himself
@@sarahcrombie1564 I don't know of any true apology that does not include self reflection and a change of mindset on behalf of the guilty. He was trying to show regret for his actions, whether he initially perceived them as bad or not.
@@uggmonster8795 fair enough, but I still feel like he should of made it less about himself, and seems like all the focus is on him when it shouldn’t be
He would've become one of the casts of vampire diaries.
@Blissolic did you go to minecon 2016?
The apology wasn’t even that bad. He still in the wrong. The shit wasn’t terrible though
What the fuck i really liked will, i hope shelby recovers soon from this :((
Yo banger blissolic video
I not saying whos side im on with this because i need more informaion from both sides first, but there was no need for shubble to bring up/make fun of wilburs living conditions. To me thats crosssing the line
Why these dramas happen so unexpectedly and suddenly?
Poor Tommy his brother figure and he finds out this. Also techno would be disappointed I can’t trust everyone
OMG MY BLISSY WISSY UPLOADED. ATTENTION EVEYONE I WAS ALMOST DONE EDGING BUT BLISS UPLOADED GOTTA CONTINUE!
That’s a crazy statement
Hopefully that was all the past. He changed. I really hope he did
i do hope he changes, but we can’t just brush this stuff off as the past.
does not mean we can't hold him accountable.
Na he hasn’t changed $h1t. Just bc hes ur favourite YTber and u cant admit he is a creep
why don't u use no hurt cam and plz add the game sound atleast a bit plz
That’s not the point of the video it’s just background footage
It’s just background footage. If you really want that then you could searched up Minecraft Bedwars gameplay, not this.
I DON'T SUPPORT ABUSE, but I rly hope that ppl can understand that everyone makes mistakes. and eventually move on :)
Im not siding with anyone tho bec in the old photos willbur had bruises and in one picture he looked like he was about to cry. And willbur didnt comfirm the 'safe word' btw shubbles has like a vid or a post of someone telling him to khs
pov: ur trying to find a comment without ppl making straight up paragraphs
What is the sword overlay
Baldsollic with the biggest balls at it again frfr
Well there goes a another one...
Fuck sakes..
pls make a download link for the Pack!!!
what is the pack ik this is unrelated but i badly need it
I need to talk about something that just happened with wilber soot and my best friend.
My best friend just texted me a 2am. She knows I'm not allowed to text past nine, so she only texts me to tell me to go to sleep or if something is really wrong. So I called her and immediately heard her crying her eyes out. Something that she never does is curse, but something must have broken that. I feel so horrible! She looked up to him! Seriously, she is going through a lot, and he was always the one to comfort her. I hate seeing her this way.
WHATS THE PACK
pack?
texture pack?
I truly support both sides as we will never know the whole story. But shubble deserves all the love and support she is getting!
How can u support both sides? There is no defending abuse, doesn’t matter what Wilbur was going through he should’ve have done what he did. AND then what he claims to be an apology was really just him making it about himself like tf
@@sarahcrombie1564Jesus loves all. As a christian, i live a life dedicated to Jesus. So of course i support both sides. And how can it NOT be about himself? Isnt is supposedly his problem?
@@socire72 it’s about Shelby she was the one that got abused BY HIM, his apology was pathetic. The focus is all on him when it shouldn’t be the focus should be on Shelby. U sayimg u support both sides is basically saying u support him being an abuser
PACK PLS 🙏
Always a good day when you upload. ❤
Ants arent that bad tho
Clearly you have never had an actual ant infestation.
@@I.heart.starz2719 that's a possibility
@@cylerinque8354 ants are very heard to get rid of plus they travel In colonies which makes it harder to stop them. They stink up everything and get all in your food and clothes and lay eggs in your house it’s just disgusting. Definitely not anything I want to experience.
I don’t think this is at all ok but the amount of hate he is getting I don’t think is fully deserved
whats the pack guys
whats the pack bruv