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1984 Evinrude 6hp vs 1983 Johnson 7.5hp Outboard Motor GPS comparison
I wanted to know how the performance of these two little motors compared when run under as close to identical conditions as possible on the same boat with the same loading. The 7.5 edges out the 6 but the 6 is still am impressive little motor.
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1946 Elgin 1.25hp Outboard Motor Tank Test
มุมมอง 48314 วันที่ผ่านมา
Bought this motor at Tomahawk 2024 from Phil Gatzow. It had spark when purchased but was in non-running condition. Fuel system needed a lot of attention, but otherwise it was in great mechanical condition.
~1963 West Bend 7.5hp Model 7301 Outboard Motor Tank Test
มุมมอง 38821 วันที่ผ่านมา
This is another motor I rescued from the junk.pile at Tomahawk 2024. It had a broken recoil spring, a badly corroded fuel pump, and no spark when I picked it up. seems to be a happy little runner now. looking forward to a boat ride with it.
1985 Evinrude 8hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
มุมมอง 82728 วันที่ผ่านมา
Motor brought to me for service. it needs a few little things but it's starting and running nicely again.
1947 Sea King (Gale) 3hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
มุมมอง 1.1K28 วันที่ผ่านมา
I received this motor as a free toss-in when I purchased another parts motor for $5 a few years ago at the Tomahawk AOMCI meet. It turned out to be a runner after some work. it's not very strong, but it seems to run decent.
1983 Johnson 7.5hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
มุมมอง 81128 วันที่ผ่านมา
I got this motor from my friend Dan Anderson in the outboard club. I got it in unknown condition. All I knew was that it wasn't stuck and it was dirty. it turned out to not need a whole lot to be a good runner again. This is the first lake run I have done with this motor.
Ron's 1967 Johnson FD-21 20hp Outboard Motor River Test at Tomahawk
มุมมอง 711หลายเดือนก่อน
Ron's 1967 Johnson FD-21 20hp Outboard Motor River Test at Tomahawk
1965 Johnson FD-19 18hp Outboard Motor / Michigan Wheel PJ18 NOS Prop Test
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1965 Johnson FD-19 18hp Outboard Motor / Michigan Wheel PJ18 NOS Prop Test
1960 Gale Buccaneer 25hp Outboard Motor Lake Cruise Manistee Lake
มุมมอง 1.6K2 หลายเดือนก่อน
Took the Buc 25 out for an afternoon cruise on Manistee Lake after installing the Bimini top on the '65 Alumacraft FD.
1967 Evinrude Fastwin 18hp Electric Start Outboard Motor Lake Run. 1st in 4 years
มุมมอง 1.5K2 หลายเดือนก่อน
1967 Evinrude Fastwin 18hp Electric Start Outboard Motor Lake Run. 1st in 4 years
1965 Johnson FD-19 18hp Outboard Motor Lake Run
มุมมอง 9403 หลายเดือนก่อน
1965 Johnson FD-19 18hp Outboard Motor Lake Run
1958 Johnson FD-12 Outboard Motor First Run of the 2024 Season
มุมมอง 8833 หลายเดือนก่อน
1958 Johnson FD-12 Outboard Motor First Run of the 2024 Season
1960 Evinrude Fastwin 18hp Outboard Motor Lake Test After 2 Years on the Rack
มุมมอง 8813 หลายเดือนก่อน
1960 Evinrude Fastwin 18hp Outboard Motor Lake Test After 2 Years on the Rack
1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
มุมมอง 1.4K3 หลายเดือนก่อน
1957 Evinrude Fastwin 18hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
1953 Johnson QD-14A Outboard Motor on Aerocraft P-12 with Remote Controls
มุมมอง 7403 หลายเดือนก่อน
1953 Johnson QD-14A Outboard Motor on Aerocraft P-12 with Remote Controls
1960 Gale Buccaneer 15hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
มุมมอง 1.5K3 หลายเดือนก่อน
1960 Gale Buccaneer 15hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
OJR Season #9 Opener. 1959 Johnson QD-20 10 Outboard Motor
มุมมอง 6153 หลายเดือนก่อน
OJR Season #9 Opener. 1959 Johnson QD-20 10 Outboard Motor
2024 Preseason Pond Run #2 Testing A New Aerocraft P-12.
มุมมอง 7464 หลายเดือนก่อน
2024 Preseason Pond Run #2 Testing A New Aerocraft P-12.
2024 First Preseason Pond Run - Hot Laps Aerocraft P-12 and 1967 Fastwin
มุมมอง 1.3K4 หลายเดือนก่อน
2024 First Preseason Pond Run - Hot Laps Aerocraft P-12 and 1967 Fastwin
1975 Johnson 25hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
มุมมอง 16K10 หลายเดือนก่อน
1975 Johnson 25hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
1990 Mercury 9.9hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
มุมมอง 2.1K10 หลายเดือนก่อน
1990 Mercury 9.9hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
1965 Johnson CD-22A 6hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
มุมมอง 2.3K10 หลายเดือนก่อน
1965 Johnson CD-22A 6hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
1965 Johnson FD-19 18hp Outboard Motor, First run using tiller control.
มุมมอง 1.9K11 หลายเดือนก่อน
1965 Johnson FD-19 18hp Outboard Motor, First run using tiller control.
1959 Evinrude Sportwin 10hp (JohnErude Junkyard Jubilee) First run in two years.
มุมมอง 1.4K11 หลายเดือนก่อน
1959 Evinrude Sportwin 10hp (JohnErude Junkyard Jubilee) First run in two years.
1950-ish Elgin 2.5hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
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1950-ish Elgin 2.5hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
1962 Commodore (by West Bend) 10hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
มุมมอง 2.2Kปีที่แล้ว
1962 Commodore (by West Bend) 10hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
1983 Sea King (Chrysler) 15hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
มุมมอง 2.8Kปีที่แล้ว
1983 Sea King (Chrysler) 15hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
1959 Elgin 12hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
มุมมอง 2.6Kปีที่แล้ว
1959 Elgin 12hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
1973 Johnson 20hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
มุมมอง 2.6Kปีที่แล้ว
1973 Johnson 20hp Outboard Motor Lake Test
1965 Johnson FD-19 18hp Outboard Motor on 1965 Alumacraft FD
มุมมอง 944ปีที่แล้ว
1965 Johnson FD-19 18hp Outboard Motor on 1965 Alumacraft FD

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  • @tahaotuzbir542
    @tahaotuzbir542 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Can I run this motor on a rubber boat?❤

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@tahaotuzbir542 If your rubber boat has a rigid transom and it is rated for at least 7.5hp, then I would say yes. Typically, a gas outboard would be used on a RIB (Rigid Inflatable) boat which has a hard floor and transom with reinforced rubber floatation sides if you're talking about a rubber boat. I don't know what type of rubber boat you have. Thanks for watching!

  • @mattioder
    @mattioder 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Great motor I had two. A 1981 and 1984.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@mattioder They sure are great little motors. I really like these two. Thanks for watching!

  • @robertmorris9998
    @robertmorris9998 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beauty old motor!

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It's a really great runner. It deserves a cosmetic restoration to be honest. The patina kind of tells a story, but it also deserves to have the cosmetics match the mechanicals, which are very good on this one. Thanks for watching!

  • @ChristopherFogle-jk8rk
    @ChristopherFogle-jk8rk 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will this work in reverse to run a motor that requires a pressure tank with a new tank?

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ChristopherFogle-jk8rk No, this does not work in reverse. New tanks are suction only tanks that require a pump to move the fuel to the carburetor. They are not built to contain a regulated pressure to feed fuel. Thanks for watching!

  • @madvelila
    @madvelila 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How this motor can be tilted so that the roter will not be in water when in dock?

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If I remember correctly, there is nothing preventing this motor from being tilted up as long as it is not turned around for reverse. Thanks for watching!

    • @madvelila
      @madvelila 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldjohnnyrude8404 I will try again tomorrow. Today I tried but it did not lift upwards that much. I needed to pull the boat almoast completely out from water to be able to get the rotor out of water.

  • @mrcrowelly
    @mrcrowelly 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just got my pops 1970 6hp evinrude myself ..its mostly restored too! I love this video

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mrcrowelly Congratulations on your new motor. Extra nice that it was your pop's motor. They're beautiful, reliable runners. Thanks for watching!

    • @mrcrowelly
      @mrcrowelly 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @oldjohnnyrude8404 absolutely thank you!!!

  • @rainerneumeister5239
    @rainerneumeister5239 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi there. I'm looking at buying a Johnson , either 3, 3.3 or 3.5. HP. I'm worried about spare parts if I need any in the future. I am told some parts are not available at all ?? I have a choice of a 3 HP Johnson or a 4 HP Evinrude, or indeed both. Which is the better motor in your opinion? And which one is easier to get parts for. I'm in Ireland.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rainerneumeister5239 Most things Johnson sold since the mod 1950s still have pretty decent parts availability, at least here in The States. What year range are you referring to with these motors? The 1950s and 60s 3hps are great little motors. The later 3-4hp Johnsons have more power and are still good little motors with maybe a little less charm. The 4hp motors pre-1985 are much the same motors as the 1985-up 3hp motors. The ratings were changed from powerhead (crankshaft) to prop shaft which led to re-rating many existing designs to a lower HP number. At that time, the difference between Johnson and Evinrude was strictly cosmetic. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching!

    • @rainerneumeister5239
      @rainerneumeister5239 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldjohnnyrude8404 I'm looking at a 3 HP Johnson and a 3.3 HP Johnson. Years 1990 and 1991. A guy I know found it very difficult to get a carburetor bowl for a 9.9 Johnson. He waited 9 months to get it. There is also a 4 HP Evinrude available to buy. It think it's an 80s model.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rainerneumeister5239 Here, parts for any of those motors are pretty available. If not available new, good used replacements are often available on Ebay. I'm not sure which models these are exactly. The small motors varied quite a bit over the years. Any of them were pretty good motors. If the Evinrude 4hp was the one with the saddle fuel tank on the back of the exhaust leg, I'd probably make that my last choice of the three. Not bad motors, but I have the 2.5hp version and I have had my share of issues keeping it running. Parts are not much of a problem though. That could be different in Ireland than here, though.

  • @rainerneumeister5239
    @rainerneumeister5239 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi there. Do you know when they started putting the dark grey hoods/cowling on the Johnson motors. ??

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rainerneumeister5239 I'm assuming the dark gray hood you're referring to is the one that started in 1999. There were dark hoods before then, but are more like blue/black. Thanks for watching!

    • @rainerneumeister5239
      @rainerneumeister5239 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldjohnnyrude8404Great. thank you For the information.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rainerneumeister5239 You're welcome!

  • @danreid6407
    @danreid6407 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have one of these and it runs great. So long as you take the pressure off the fuel tank when you shut it off.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The float valve should be able to hold fuel flow against tank pressure once the bowl is full. If it cannot, the float valve needle and seat are most likely either worn or damaged in some way. That said, I also have a '57 Evinrude Fastwin 18hp that will flood the carburetor if tank pressure is left on it when the engine is off. I have rebuilt that carburetor twice with new float, needle, and seat and it still allows fuel past the valve. I need to rebuild it once more to make sure nothing is wrong. I am not sure what is going on, but it should not do that. Thanks for watching!

  • @laerciofelipesinhorelli350
    @laerciofelipesinhorelli350 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    friend I'm from Brazil I have an engine like this and I can't find anything here and no one who knows how to work it I need to find parts but I can't even find anything about it on the internet. Can you give me your WhatsApp to give me some information?

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@laerciofelipesinhorelli350 Hello from the USA. These motors are, from the standpoint of basics, not terribly different from other outboards. This era of Mercurys don't require as many special tools as some of the others. I would recommend using Marineengine.com to look up the parts by using your model and serial number. You can then use the part numbers to look inline for the parts on Ebay or other sources that ship to your location. I don't have WhatsApp. I hope that at least gives you some guidance. You can search TH-cam for some more specific how-to videos on this model outboard. Thanks for watching!

  • @labradorguy5311
    @labradorguy5311 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Interesting! Those two motors are looped charging and all ball bearings? They are much faster than the fifty's motors. Not quite as cool but that is in the mind of the watcher! It looked like a great day to be on the water! Thanks

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      These two motors have fully jeweled powerheads, but are cross flow, not loop charged. Yes, they're definitely in another league of performance from the earlier generation 6hp OMCs. They certainly have a different style than the 50s motors. 50s styling is hard to compete with in my eye as well, but these are excellent performers. I like the styling of these motors too, although they're definitely more modern amd "plastic" than the 50s motors. It was a great day to be on the water, although it.did get very windy right after this video and for most of the day. Thanks for watching, Dale!

  • @johnbringold3305
    @johnbringold3305 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a 1974 six hp and on a 12ft boat with nothing in it I am lucky to get 7 miles per hour out of it is there a different prop besides tge 2 blade I can use

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In 1974, the OMC 6hps were still using the first generation powerhead, which was basically an updated version of the 5.5hp powerhead from 1954. The second generation powerhead from 1980 that replaced the 6hp was introduced as a 7.5hp and is a fully jeweled powerhead. There are other props available for the first generation 6hps. There really isn't much to gain with a prop change on a gen 1 6hp. Probably more speed to be had with your setup by playing around with weight, balance, and trim angle. A 12 foot boat can be considerably more difficult to plane than a longer boat because of balance. A first generation 6hp will push my 14 foot boat at around 10-11 mph with proper balance to plane the hull. The same motor on a 12 footer for me is closer to 7 also because it won't plane off. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching!

    • @johnbringold3305
      @johnbringold3305 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @oldjohnnyrude8404 thanks for the info

  • @jakeblood4186
    @jakeblood4186 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just got one of these with a boat I got. It is 1957 model number 15020, so should be the same. I got about 100 compression in both cylinders, but not getting spark... Where do you get parts for these?

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jakeblood4186 I buy many of my parts from Marineengine.com. They carry Johnson/Evinrude OEM parts and Sierra aftermarket parts. I reccomended OEM whenever possible. The only possible exception currently is the points. Last I knew the OEM points were still having quality issues. I'd probably buy Sierra points, but stick woth OEM for everything else. 100psi is good in one of these 50s 18s. These are excellent motors. Good luck with yours. I have a video series that goes over the tune up process for these motors on this channel. I was working on my 1959 Evinrude Fastwin Electric Start 18hp in the series. They may be helpful to you when working on your motor. Thanks for watching!

    • @jakeblood4186
      @jakeblood4186 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldjohnnyrude8404 Points = Contacts? Part of the ignition system?

  • @tinybubbles3724
    @tinybubbles3724 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had a early 80's 4hp and a 7.5hp. The 4hp converted gas to noise and the 7.5 although still painfully slow was half as loud.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@tinybubbles3724 I found the early 80s 4hp to be a pretty good power to weight ratio. Not really fast, but decent power for such a light motor. I'm quite pleased with the performance of this 7.5hp is a lot faster than the 4hp. Neither motor seems excessively loud for a 2-stroke from that era. 🤷‍♂️. Thanks for watching!

  • @MelAnthony-dg2cr
    @MelAnthony-dg2cr 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very nice

  • @donk499
    @donk499 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A very interesting comparison for sure, one I have wondered about as well. My guess is that a few things came into play here, one of which was the change in HP rating methods that came about in 1985. The other thing to consider was that the 8hp really was much more than a larger venturi carb. Originally, the 8hp had a larger intake manifold as well, then the exhaust ports would be changed in future years as well. So, I am guessing that the newer 6hps were just "rerated" 7.5hps. Some of those later 8hps will just about keep up with 9.9s, great engines in spite of their engineering flaws.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@donk499 Your thoughts on this align about as perfectly as I could imagine with mine. It's good to hear someone, especially with your experience with OMC motors. substantiate my thoughts here. The 7.5 does have a slightly more crisp, less muffled exhaust note than the 6hp. I'm guessing the 6s were re-rated 7.5s maybe with some minor internal change to make them a little quieter than the 7.5hp predecessor. In any case, I'm still looking for an 8hp amd I still really enjoy these two little motors. Thanks for your thoughts and thanks for watching!

    • @donk499
      @donk499 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldjohnnyrude8404 Yeah, I heard the slight difference as well. The inner exhaust tubes changed slightly around those years as well, wondering if that might explain the difference we hear. I really like these engines, and the 8hp versions developed amazing power and speed. I always liked the original versions of these engines like the ones shown in your video. Never cared for the later model ones with all the cheesy plastic covers and funky forward mounted tiller/shift handle, along with the crappy carb/sync process. But, these later models would introduce one final important improvement to these powerheads which was the steel/cast rods that replaced the flimsy aluminum rods used in the original models. The aluminum rods were fine for the older/original style 6hps, they did not wind up the way the newer models do. Oftentimes, you will hear a bit of a "ringing noise" on the older style powerheads which I attribute to the aluminum rods stretching out a bit. I have often wondered if the original aluminum rods can be replaced with the newer steel/cast rods, an experiment for another day I guess. Don

  • @wyomingadventures4943
    @wyomingadventures4943 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thought there would be a little bigger spread too. Just got my 7.5 and am really liking it. Cant go weong with either choice though.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@wyomingadventures4943 I wasn't sure what to expect, but I knew they were pretty close in performance. In 1983, there was a 4.5 hp and a 7.5hp. These had the same block. In 1984 they were 6hp and 8hp also sharing the same block. The 8hp had some performance upgrades over both the 7.5hp and 6hp. I still need to get a hold of one of those. I have the 4.5hp also. The performance difference between the 4.5 and the 7.5hp is pretty incredible. I think maybe the 6hp was mostly the result of the change in how the HP ratings were done changing from crankshaft to prop shaft rating. Don K's view on this seems to agree with my thoughts and this test seems to substantiate that thought. Thanks for watching!

  • @mikeperry6794
    @mikeperry6794 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Basically the same block with different bore?

    • @donk499
      @donk499 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The powerheads on the 6 and 7.5hp models were the same. The later 8hp powerheads actually were different. Initially they just had larger intake manifolds, then the exhaust ports would change in a few years as well. The cylinder bores were the same on all of them though

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      DonK nailed it. 👌 Thanks for watching!

  • @SharonBrown-g1k
    @SharonBrown-g1k 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Jackson Eric Young Mark Williams Michael

  • @timothyhite4546
    @timothyhite4546 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How much does the 6 hp motor weigh compared to the 7 1/2

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@timothyhite4546 Both motors weigh the same. The same powerhead and exhaust leg on both motors. I'm not exactly sure what internal differences there are between the two. In 1983, there was a 4.5 hp and a 7.5hp. These had the same block also. In 1984 they were 6hp and 8hp also sharing the same block. Thanks for watching!

  • @timothycreamer8610
    @timothycreamer8610 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My Sears Ted Williams 3hp is ESKA made I believe using a Tecumseh engine.... someone let me know... it's a 70s model not certain the year still runs.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yes, your Ted Williams 3hp with the Tecumseh powerhead is definitely an Eska-built motor. Thanks for watching!

    • @timothycreamer8610
      @timothycreamer8610 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldjohnnyrude8404 Have any insight on the Evinrude 65 HP Triumph 2 Stroke electric shift engine? Thanks a boat load✔️

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@timothycreamer8610 My only insight on those is that the powerheads are good runners and typically strong, durable, amd reliable. The electric shift is OK as long as it is maintained and never gets any water inside. It requires the correct electric shift control box. The electric shift gearcases are very expensive to repair. I stay away from electric shift outboards myself due to the cost and expertise needed to repair them. I have not dealt with them as far as repairs myself because I habe never bought one and I don't like to "learn" on someone else's stuff. Thanks for watching!

  • @marksmith9295
    @marksmith9295 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always good to see you running the fruits of your labor. I hope you have a cart to drag your motors back and forth. My back aches just thinking of putting them on and taking tgem off the transoms.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marksmith9295 Thank you! I do have a cart to get them close. Still have to walk them into and out of the water to mount and dismount them. Today I was using the rack on the back of my golf cart. Lucky enough to have the lake access mostly to myself today. It sure got windy though. The small motors aren't too bad to take on and off. If I'm swapping out the 22c.i. or larger motors, thise get tiring. Thanks for watching!

    • @marksmith9295
      @marksmith9295 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A golf cart sounds like a great idea! Just need a little cherry picker for it:)

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marksmith9295 I use the golf cart or the SxS at the cabin lake access quite a bit. At the lake at home it's nit an option, so I usually bring a motor cart to get them from the truck to the shore where the boat is. Having a small lift on the golf cart would be pretty slick!

  • @GlenB1963
    @GlenB1963 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They are both lovely little motors. The sound and smell of a 2 stroke outboard says to me Freedom. Best wishes ❤️

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GlenB1963 Thank you. I agree! They're both great little motors. Love the smell of a 2-stroke also. Thanks for watching!

  • @jpotts8814
    @jpotts8814 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video. Love that boat.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jpotts8814 Thank you! I'm very fond of the boat too. I like it so well I have two of them. Thanks for watching!

  • @outboardfixer
    @outboardfixer 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had a 6 just like that and a 70ish 4 hp, I was shocked at the difference. The little 4's were not even close.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@outboardfixer Even the first generation of the 6hp doesn't hold a candle to these 6s from a performance standpoint. The 7ps 4hps are great little motors, but they're not much in the speed department. You're right, not even close. Thanks for watching!

  • @JBOutboards
    @JBOutboards 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice motors Ben. You had em rockin pretty good.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you! These little motors do very nicely for their size. They're fun to run around with sometimes. Beautiful little fishing motors. Thanks for watching!

  • @georgekeats1478
    @georgekeats1478 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It seemed like there was more wind on the second run. The boat seemed to get kicked around a bit more. Good comparison.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@georgekeats1478 The wind did pick up a bit from.the first to second run, bit it wasn't much stronger. It was only 5 or 6 minutes after the first, but the wind continued to pick up for the next hour and a half. There was a little more crossing boat traffic on the second run as well. Either way, the 7.5hp edged out the 6 slightly. It feels a little more torquey during acceleration too, but there not much different. Thank you and thanks for watching!

  • @jimmyandersson4599
    @jimmyandersson4599 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Greetings from Sweden🇸🇪👋. I was amazed by the no-difference between them. I love your videos. The lake and surrounding nature is amazing. So I have a little, perhaps a silly question, your boats in America is very different compared to ours, we don't have space for 2 engines beside each other on such a small boat, but since you have, what happens if you place two 6hp engines beside each other and run them together, how much faster would it go compared with only one. And would a 9.9hp go faster or slower two 6hp. I know, it's small engines and you Americans always put dubble 150hp on a but thats only build for one 70hp😂😂😂 but this would really be fun to see, because small engines comparisons is much easier to see the difference when the wind isn't a factor. Have a great day and thanks for your videos.😊👍💙💛🇸🇪

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jimmyandersson4599 I thought there might be a little more difference on performance between these two motors as well. After running the '83 Johnson 7.5 the first time, though, it seemed to be fairly similar to the '84 Evinrude 6. I wanted to do a direct comparison to see how close they are. The 7.5 has a little crisper exhaust tone and feels a little torquier out of the hole. The top end is very similar. Around 0.5mph difference. This is a very nice lake with very nice natural surroundings. While there are a lot of houses on the lake, there is still a lot of beautiful natural surroundings. My Alumacrafts are the only boats I own that have deep sides and a short transom that is essentially full width and allows running multiple motors. It would be interesting to run a pair of 6s or even this 6 and 7.5 in tandem on the boat. I'd habe to imagine the performance would be close to a 9.9. ~13.5hp but with the drag of two gearcases would have to be in the same range of performance. I may have to try I sometime. You're right. These days it seems like everything you see videos of is overpowered and every new larger boat has 3-5 300+hp outboards hung on it. I don't understand how people afford that stuff, but they seem to do it somehow. I am planning on putting two '59 Evinrude 35s on my Alumacraft Flying C when it is finished and I'm very strongly considering rigging this FD or my outer one for dual motors and using twin 18, 20, or 25hp motors on it. Seems like it would be fun and I love the sound of the twins running. Thanks for watching!

    • @jimmyandersson4599
      @jimmyandersson4599 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @oldjohnnyrude8404 thanks Johnny for your answer👍🇸🇪 I appreciate it really. Yes, a test with two tandem 6hp or thoose two would be fun to see. And yes, the drag was what i was wondering about also, but you have the resorsers for doing the test. I don't😄😄 we don'thave any small boats with place for 2 or more engines😄😄 sometimes swedishboat builders sucks😂. I remember all thoose old engines. My uncle had an old Volvo Penta 2,5hp from the 50-60s, and it was slow but a nice fishing engine. Bringing many fun memories back to watch your videos. 😊👋💙💛🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jimmyandersson4599 I will definitely keep that tandem run in mind and make that happen. I may try to make a link bar to link the steering together before I do that. If not, I'll lock one straight and steer with the other. I'll see whan I can get that run in. Stay tuned!

    • @jimmyandersson4599
      @jimmyandersson4599 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @oldjohnnyrude8404 thanks Johnny, nice of to answer and I will keep on watching, and have a lookout for that test.😊👋🌻 And as always keep yo.... no that's you😂👍 But I'll give you fun fact about sweden: Try to sell a baseball-kit here in Sweden and you will go bankrupt. No one here knows what baseball is🤣🤣 but we have something similar called "burnball", only difference, we don't have a pitcher or a catcher and it's only a fun game among folks and kids and not in a major league and you can buy a full gamekit in your nearest gas-station.😉👍👋💙💛🇸🇪

  • @Ody-up6kg
    @Ody-up6kg 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We had one when I was a kid on a runabout. A great motor! We had so much fun on that boat!

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Ody-up6kg Definitely a great motor. I have a lot of fun with mine on my runabouts as well. Thanks for watching!

  • @makecoolstuff9170
    @makecoolstuff9170 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've got one of these in my shed that I would like to get running. No spark. I have new coils for it.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@makecoolstuff9170 The fist thing I would do is clean and adjust the points then check spark again. Good that you have new coils, especially if yours are all cracked. Depending on the coils that are in it, they certainly might be. Good luck with your motor. Thanks for watching!

  • @samsvintageoutboards6847
    @samsvintageoutboards6847 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Ben! I hope all is well. Bummed I missed tomahawk

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@samsvintageoutboards6847 HI Sam!! Great to hear from you. I was hoping to see you there also, but you had a good reason for not bein there. Hope to see you there next year. 👍

  • @laurentgagne892
    @laurentgagne892 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what prop are you running? i got 20mph with 2 people and a 9.5x10 ...i have a 9.25x9 on the way hopefully i get something a little faster...

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@laurentgagne892 I'm running the stock 9.25x10P prop on this motor. Considering I get around 22-23mph with just myself and a fuel tank in an otherwise empty boat, I'd say your 20mph with 2 people is pretty reasonable. I wouldn't expect any more top end put of the 9P prop. It may improve acceleration and get you on plane quicker. Good luck and thanks for watching!

    • @laurentgagne892
      @laurentgagne892 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldjohnnyrude8404yes i got 22-23mph with the 10 alone too... but being 2 people it take a good time to plane so i think the 9 will be more fuel efficient since it will hop on plane faster ....and if we are 3 peope with a lot of stuff the 9 will shine...ive heard that stainless steel props are made thinner thus creating less drag and producing higher speeds ...this would be my last resort...ive tried the hydrofoil and i just lose top speed

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@laurentgagne892 Yes, the hydrofoil will just add drag and slow you down. The lower pitch will help.ypu plane woth passengers, but probably won't gain any top end. It will help the engine operate in the range where it makes power though. The SS props are thinner than aluminum but much heavier. Just make sure you idle down as low as possible before shifting and shift quickly. Otherwise they'll also tear up your gearcase.👍

    • @laurentgagne892
      @laurentgagne892 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldjohnnyrude8404 im happy with the speed so far because its a 14 feet inflatable saturn zodiac alike ....i feel like it may have more drag than an alu jon boat

  • @12Radaj
    @12Radaj 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What setup are you using for remote controls? I'm replacing my Evinrude 40ELCO with a Johnson 20R73A I got for free, but would also like to retain remote controls and console steering.

    • @12Radaj
      @12Radaj 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Just found your controls build video from a few years back, thanks for the great content! I'll have to keep an eye out if you're ever back in Tomahawk.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@12RadajGlad you found the controls build video. I'm usually at the AOMCI meet in Tomahawk. Hope to see you next August. Thanks for watching!

  • @robertosgood961
    @robertosgood961 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love the rides around the lake! Thanks. I know lots of folks made Wizards over the years, thought McCulloch made them from '59-'64 after Oliver? I've been trying to identify a 12 hp Wizard given to me, it looks just like yours only the cowling is green. Beautiful clean low hour motor, but missing throttle control gear on end of tiller handle shaft. Any thoughts on where to look to identify model and year so I know what I have for parts search? Interweb hasn't been too helpful. Tag on motor is faded but seems to read _ _ A7_ -- 3490. Looking forward to your next video.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@robertosgood961 Thank you! You're correct about McCulloch building these Wizards. It was actually Scott-McCulloch at this time and not Scott-Atwater any longer. I should correct my video title. Thanks for watching!

    • @robertosgood961
      @robertosgood961 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldjohnnyrude8404 Lol all good! Just starting my Wizard history lesson. Your cowling is designed just like mine but has the greenish turquoise color and is 12hp. What years was this style used? Trying to identify my motor to order a osp manual and get fixing!

  • @sailawaybob
    @sailawaybob 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They must have made a million of these and think back to being a kid at our lake house in the early 60's there wasn't a nerd for speed . Many small aluminum v hulls with little kicker to get out on the lake

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sailawaybob They sure did build a bunch of these little outboards. There is definitely a big difference in recreational boating from that time to now. Now there are lots of large boats that burn lots of fuel and make huge waves for the sake of making huge waves. It's kind of amazing to me the number of wake surfing boats that I see on all sorts of small inland lakes in my area. Everyone has a right to get out and have fun, and to each their own. Those wake boats sure make it difficult for those of us that like to get out and enjoy our small aluminum boats and smaller outboards though. They disrupt fishing on small lakes to a significant degree too. I enjoy putting around and I also enjoy going fast and I don't want to be a buzzkill for anyone, but I'm not sure those boats have much of a place on small lakes. That's just my humble opinion, though. Thanks for watching!

  • @riverraisin1
    @riverraisin1 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fished on Manistee lake a number of times. Had family nearby. Nice Walleye and Bass fishing.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Excellent! I have not fished on Manistee Lake in a few years. I didn't have much luck last time out, but I'm not usually there during the best times for fishing. Holiday weekends with heavy boat traffic isn't the best. I like Manistee Lake a lot for boating though. I'll have to try fishing it again one of these days. Thanks for watching!

  • @joelthewilliam
    @joelthewilliam 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice thanks. Left at a camp we took over and had no idea how to start or kill it. Thanks!

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joelthewilliam You're welcome. Glad to be of help in some way. Thanks for watching!

  • @bennyblanko3
    @bennyblanko3 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very cool! A lot quieter than I though it would be, with the exhaust in the water. I got an old Johnson 20 going yesterday. There was so much junk in the tank, fuel lines, fuel pump, but the carb was pretty clean. Put it on the back of my little 14' lund, and took it for a rip. Super nice motor. I hope you put this one on the back of a boat, and show a video of it running. I was given a Tanaka 300, and have an old Eska 3 hp, and a couple other little air cooled 3 hp motors. Sometimes I throw one in the front of the boat for a backup motor. They are all a little on the noisey side, but all run great. Thanks for sharing.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you. These are fairly quiet. Much quieter than the air cooled outboards built on the Eska platform for sure. The little air cooled motors do make a pretty good backup kicker. That Johnson 20 is a great motor. The 22c.i OMCs are my favorite motors. Nice job getting that one back on the water. I do plan to put this one on a boat. With any luck I will mange to do that still this season. Thanks for watching!

  • @marksmith9295
    @marksmith9295 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A great canoe motor. Had a 2hp air cooled Elgin when i lived in Saskatchewan and made a side mount for my 15 foot cedarstrip canoe. Worked well until my son and I were swamped by the wake from a passing boat in a no wake zone. Luckliy we were very close to shore so emptied the canoe of water and paddled back to the landing. Dried the motor out at home and got it working again but sold it later for parts. Nice to see a little one running so well.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It definitely seems like it would be a great canoe motor. I'll have to give it a try on my 17 foot Alumacraft flat back. Too bad yours ended up going for a swim and ultimately ended up as parts. At least you were OK and able to get it going again. Thanks for watching!

    • @marksmith9295
      @marksmith9295 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In retrospect the side mount wasnt a good idea for that particular canoe. A 17 foot square stern will easily take a 4hp . I ran a 4hp Evinrude on a Grumman 17 flat back all summer in 1984 for mineral exploration work in northern Manitoba. The geologist i worked with sat up front in a folding aluminum deck chair for our multi hour daily trips to claims we worked.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marksmith9295 Yes, my Alumacraft is rated for 4hp amd would handle that without issue, I'm sure. The little 1.25hp Elgin should be pretty enjoyable on it. I 👍

  • @stever.3580
    @stever.3580 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A friend gave me one of these to see if I could get it to run, it doesn't have spark and the plug wire is bad but even with the puller the flywheel won't come and I'm afraid of breaking it, always been able to get them to pop on OMC motors, might wait to see if I can find a parts motor.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stever.3580 Cool that your friend gave you one of these. Don't try to use a jaw type puller on the flywheel. The 1.25hp does not habe any puller holes. You have to partially remove the flywheel nut, put a small prybar under the rim of.the flywheel and give the end of the flywheel nut a solid rap with a hammer (brass preferably) to pop the flywheel off the crank taper. Once that is off everything is accessible. These motors are quite simple in construction. Hopefully you can revive it. Neat little motors. Thanks for watching!

    • @stever.3580
      @stever.3580 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldjohnnyrude8404 Thanks, I will give that a try, it had been his uncle's and sat in his garage for 40+ yrs., still had old gas in it, used acetone to clean the tank.

  • @georgesabol459
    @georgesabol459 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Harold Sprague was a great source of knowledge. He was in Maquoketa. Also Mr. Mayberry.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for watching!

    • @georgesabol459
      @georgesabol459 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oldjohnnyrude8404 I always enjoy a good Clinton story. Good luck with your outboard.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@georgesabol459 Thank you. It's been good so far.

  • @waynerowlinson6177
    @waynerowlinson6177 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Any time I seen an old air cooled Elgin it reminds me of my first motor. It was an early 50's (I think) 2 hp Elgin. My dad gave it to me when I was about 5 and told me if I could start it, I could use it. Times were different then. Anyways, I could start it, and it pushed my old waterlogged plywood boat through the water at a kid-safe speed. One day I was playing around in the bay at camp with it and ran out of gas. My older brother helped me fill it up and away I went.... For a few seconds My brother was twice my age, but still didn't know anything about mixed fuel. Pure gas killed that little motor and my chance to use a motor by myself for a couple more years. Even the 5 hp Eska we had was too hard for my skinny little arms to start. Thanks again for the video

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@waynerowlinson6177 That's a great story even if it meant the unfortunate end to a nice little outboard. I have one of the 2hp air cooled Elgins also. I really l8ke that little motor. It's too bad yours got straight gassed and met its end. The 5hp Tecumseh powerhead on the Eska is definitely harder to start than the 2hp Elgin. Great memories. Thanks for the story and thanks for watching!

  • @johnmccrea8106
    @johnmccrea8106 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My father had one like this when I was a kid. His had a button on top that had to be depressed when you pulled the starter rope which would recoil into the top. It was a great motor that never gave him any trouble. You did a great job on this one. It brought me back to fishing with my father long ago. Thank you.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@johnmccrea8106 I know exactly the recoil you're talking about. I have a 5hp water cooled twin cylinder Elgin with that recoil starter. I need to get back to that one and bring it back to life also. Thank you and I'm glad I could bring back that memory for you. Thanks for watching!

  • @miketh2436
    @miketh2436 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve got one of those that my Dad bought new ! Even have the owners manual !

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@miketh2436 That's awesome! They're great little motors. They're not very powerful, but they run nicely and they're very simple and reliable. Thanks for watching!

  • @marksmith4582
    @marksmith4582 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What a sweet 1946! For that rich of a mixture I sure didn’t see any smoke at all! I’m impressed! Thanks Ben! Have a great weekend! Mark in Iowa.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@marksmith4582 Thanks Mark! There is some smoke, but once it is warm and dialed in, it isn't bad. That and the fact that it is so small it isn't burning much fuel. It turned out a decent little runner. Have a great weekend and thanks for watching!

  • @dannyrock5919
    @dannyrock5919 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    1.25 hp I didn’t know they went that low. Nicely done.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dannyrock5919Thank you! The air cooled 1.25hp Elgin was the smallest one West Bend made. Kissel made WaterWitch outboards for Sears before West Bend took over. They made a 0.75hp air cooled single cylinder outboard. I have one of those on my channel as well. Thanks for watching!

    • @fabianbird4584
      @fabianbird4584 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I just noticed that to I seen 3 hp and 2 hp and now 1.25 hp outboard I wonder what would run this on

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@fabianbird4584 They make pretty nice canoe motors. I'll probably run this one on one of my aluminum skiffs. I'll probably try it on my canoe at some point as well.

  • @Halonenfisherman
    @Halonenfisherman 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have the exact motor and it runs terrible

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Halonenfisherman 😢 Sounds like the little guy is overdue for service. This one wouldn't do more than an occasional fart when I started out with it. It needed a new fuel hose, a new head gasket, a little carburetor cleaning, a new water pump impeller, points cleaning and adjustment, and one new condenser. Now it runs like a sewing machine. 👍 Thanks for watching!

  • @donk499
    @donk499 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Take that you four stroke lovers!

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@donk499 😁 It certainly is a smooth, quiet idler. Thanks for watching, Don!

  • @mikeperry6794
    @mikeperry6794 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had a 1960. What a smooth great running little motor.

    • @oldjohnnyrude8404
      @oldjohnnyrude8404 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@mikeperry6794 They're wonderful little motors. They knew that had a good one when they built these. The design of these motors went mostly unchanged from 1952 through 1967. '68 was the first year for the fiberglass cowl and remote only fuel but still basically the same engine. Thanks for watching!

  • @tbone4201986
    @tbone4201986 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    👌