8:07 Black flash isn't just a reaction feat. Characters flow their cursed energy and time it so that it is outputted within that timeframe instead of just reacting within it. When you play a rhythm game you don't start to press the corresponding button when it's on the mark, you preemptively move so that by the time it reaches the button you have pressed it. Black flash is the same. It's the difference between Megumi predicting when Toji was going to move to trap and stab him and Maki catching Mai's surprise bullet. So Gojo saying he could do it if it were just the timeframe doesn't mean he would scale to it.
Actually wait this isn’t true. You CAN flow your cursed energy and time it so that it’s outputted within that timeframe but that’s if you can’t react to the time frame (this is most definitely what yuji is doing at the beginning of the series but as of the recent chapters no)zgojo literally explains that it’s a lot of other factors that make the flash. Not just the time frame gojo and yuji could very well be timing it within that timeframe, there are literally speed feats to prove this. Even if you get the exact time frame there are multiple factors that decide if it will work.
@@niberundayo15 He's like Mach 10-12+ for scaling to Sukuna who at half his energy and with soul nerfs can fight Maki who has a mach 5-6 calc of dodging Naoya. Only MHS with long distance blue since it allowed him to travel across Japan to meet Kenny in a few moments.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 gege admitted that the maki speed feat was a mistake so that is extreme lowballing. Especially since a lot of speed feats after this disprove it
It is worth noting that the Gojo calc is only that high if you take it as a natural earthquake when using the formula for unnatural earthquakes it’s more so town-large town This would be consistent with feats such as Jogo’s maximum meteor (large town),Nanami’s earthquake (multi city block),Ryū’s granite blast (small town),Uraume frost calm (small town+),Kashimo’s explosion (small town+) even Sukuna’s malevolent kitchen (Shrine is more accurately translated as kitchen in this context) is scaled to about town level overall In all reality Yuji’s punching power should be in that small town-town range however if you want to use the wonky Jogo mm calcs he could be UP TO large town with bf Gon scales off a few feats Uvogin’s punch (mcb+-small town),Beetle blast (town lvl) and the Youpi small city calc as Gon is superior to Pitou who’s superior to Youpi I believe placing Gon above this is fair So Gon is atleast small city level likely far higher Speed is a whole different story Gon is simply massively faster
If you join my discord you can see all my jjk calcs and mountain level is actually consistent. Also I am using radiated waves for the earthquake not total seismic energy
Gon slams and here is why: Ap Wise: Even thought I agree with Sukuna scaling around Mountain it isnt via Gojo earthquake as cursed energy shouldnt count as an open system hence natural earthquake scale isnt valid (no hipocenter, hence shockwaves dont travel trought the underground losing ap) which scales to Small City at best. Gon on the other hand strengthwise scales at least to rose who had the power of a nuke (Large Mountain Level). The biggest problem here is speed: 1-The bullet feat is invalid •Kurapika as soon as Post Hunter Exams was able to dodge a nen enchanted bullet by surprise which should scale to Hypersonic speeds. •Heavens Arena Killua reacted to lightning. •New York Base Kurapika yet again reacted to multi nen enchanted machine guns, blocking everyone and himself using chains. •Ramoot was shown reacting to Killua thunderbolt (even thought slower than it). Ramooth later got massively blitzed by Post Needle Killua. •Sharnalk being able to react to his own nen ability eletricity speed estimules. So even a Pre Needle Killua would be able to move at near Mhs speeds (Even tho can be highballed at Mhs+) Pre Needle Killua Speed- At Least High Hypersonic-Mach 25 (w/Mhs Technique Speed) Now to calc Pitou Speed Pre Needle Killua Reactions≈0.000114 seconds Distance Pitou Travelled=4000m Speed Needed to fully blitz=10x Time Pitou Needed to Travel 4000m≈ Less than 0.0000114 Seconds Speed=Distance/Time Speed=4000/0.0000114=350 877 193 meters/s (≈ 1.1x Ftl) Max Pitou Speed≈2.2x Ftl Gon Completly Preception Blitzed Pitou Speed Needed to Preception Blitz-2x Gon Speed- *At least 4.4x Ftl* Keep in mind thats assuming Pre Needle Killua is High Hypersonic speed if we assume he is Mhs+ then the scale would be around 40x Ftl meaning HxH top tiers are Ftl+ Extra Feats: •Godspeed Killua stated to have Light Speed reactions (+SoL Godspeed Killua) •Knuckles being able to briefly preceive to Meruem SoL attack (Relativistic Feat) •Random Fodder from Kurapika squad being able to react to Franky Nen Enchanted Finger Gun (Hypersonic+ Feat) •Killua being able to create 64 Afterimages (Circling around Netero with afterimages, using anime we can check 16 Killua clones in an area of around 1/4 of the circle) with Echo Rythm on Hunter Exams (Hypersonic Feat) Random Calcs: Pitou Ap based on previous speed feat. Pitou Mass≈75kg (Average Human) Pitou Speed= 350 877 193 m/s Kinetic Energy= 1/2m x Speed² Pitou Feat Kinetic Energy= 37 500 x 350 877 193²=4.61680517E+21J= 1.25040964109 x 10²² J (HighEnd of Large Island, keep in mind Pitou can use 2x that strength scaling him to Small Country Level Ap) I will add more scales/feats if I find them (cuz I made em all myself)
You can't use Kinetic energy for ftl speeds. And the formula for Relativistic speeds isn't 1/2mv^2 it's different. Not that it matters anyway it just gets the feat higher lol.
@@jjk4002Welp we learn anything new everyday 🤷 (im js 15 I aint no fucking genius) Even tho I just did the calcs and it wouldnt vary much from what I said (still saying in the Small Country ranges) But ig using that formula C=299792458m/s Pitou Mass≈75 000g E=mc² E=75 000x299792458²≈6.7407E+21=1.8323 x 10²²J
@@AglazingTiber Feel like everyone always lowballs HxX when it's blatantly shown that even random fodder hunter can react to & dodge nen enhanced bullets, characters like chetou dodging them at point blank many times over while being a fodder when compared to the higher tiers ants, being the royal guards all who are casually being hypersonic (Pitous first casual jump to kite was hypersonic, her 2nd jump to get back to the palace after netero sent her flying was even faster). Taking everything from above we then have killua being so fast neither pouf or youpi can react, or do anything to him where he's then eclipsed by gons casual attacks.
Sukuna being able to dodge Kashimo magnetic waves is because In Jjk is stated that when you're going to use CT attack your Cursed energy elevates and then when you sense it you already know that something is coming so you can literally just dodge When Gojo was about to use his technique Sukuna deduced that it was going to be a Red and he was right and when Sukuna used Dismantle and Gojo dodge(a- he saw the attack; b- Energy elevated) even in the first chapter of the fight It is stated that if it wasn't for the barrier Sukuna would have know what was coming because of the Energy Another thing it was aim Dodging because the first time Kashimo used it Sukuna got hit and Kashimo wasn't that Close to Sukuna So Sukuna is not Light Speed Edit: 15 fingers Sukuna Is close to Maki and Yuji together and Yuji is also close to Maki we saw that in the fight and Maki after the time skip is obviously above Mach 3 but before she wasn't
The same sukuna who has the relativistic+ feat was consistently blitzing yujis perception. Sukuna blitzing choso, it's implied nobody could even see it happening. Sukuna cleaving yujis stomach for the first time, yuji didn't even see it. Also sukuna dodging executioner sword point blank. I don't think it's valid to downscale him from that feat. And I'm pretty sure the next valid feat that isn't debunkable is like massively hypersonic(+). So yeah Gon blitzes.
Also the Black flashes were performed on a weakened sukuna. One that is unquantifiably weaker than 20f and therefore gojo aswell. It's implied sukuna is around 15f levels of strength or lower when he was fighting yuta, so his black flashes would probably be small city-city level, as far as I know for 15f sukuna scaling.
6:33 Pitou further amped his stats when fighting Gon with Terpsichora and was completely blitzed dodged. Gon later then manhandles a post mortem Terpsichora Pitou with post mortem Nen making shit way stronger.
In the fight between Netero and Pitou, the narrator says, 'Pitou was able to capture Netero's movements by sight, which was only possible through infinitely compressed awareness. Essentially, this meant that Pitou stopped the sensation of time passing entirely.' And Netero was able to move faster than that, so that means he was moving at infinite speeds, or even faster.
I agree yuji wins but 9 times out of ten I doubt it Gon has enough force to punch someone to another country and that was regular gon And if we give yuji cleave to cut through gon it’s only fair to assume gon can use scissors in his adult form to which yuji can’t really do anything against I agree gon is stronger and also faster than yuji cus of killua light speed reactions with the darts ( he was able to catch the dart as it manifested on him) So in reaction speed gon will upscale from killua if we use his adult form and it was also shown that adult gon was still stronger and faster than after death death pitou ( nen that is stronger after death) and gon was able to talk to killua in a fraction of a second . Yuji has more versatile abilities than gon but he won’t have the chance for the finishing blow if we are going with adult gon Adult gon absolutely stomps 9/10 but regular gon loses to yuji 5/10 And let’s not forget adult gon scales to meruem who was able to tank hundreds of thousands of punches in a matter of minutes from netero and was barely damaged. What I am trying to say is if we are going with adult gon it’s almost a one sided slaughter with victory going to adult gon Yuji vs sukuna is weird cus sukuna is basically boxing everyone and is weakened. In sukuna it’s literally one after after the other with no breaks compared to gon who absolutely slaughtered pitou and her post nen pact. Yuji vs sukuna is similar to luffy vs kaido in the sense that 1v1 no interruptions both at peak conditions sukuna and kaido will win respectively despite all the awakening yuji and luffy got It’s not the same in adult gon case where it was a one sided beat down. Victory imo goes to adult gon, yuji has a very slim chance of winning that fight But with regular gon it’s a more fair fight with victory going to yuji
i doubt that yuji's shrine is different from sukuna's since yuji only just awakende it and is probably just like how sukuna had to use it when he first had it just look at how he now has to actually touch his target to actually damage anyone
jjk caps at mach3 and gon is 4.8 mach after greed Island so i dint see the speed advantage the lighting and black hole feat in jjk was dismissed by the author himself
feats>statements. plus Gege never dismissed anything above mach 3. And even if he did it wouldn't matter because author intent doesn't matter in power scaling
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whoever wins this battle, it is a damn close fight.
Common W from you, D. Amazing job
W video as usual.
You're always cooking masterpieces and I'm not even glazing.
8:07 Black flash isn't just a reaction feat. Characters flow their cursed energy and time it so that it is outputted within that timeframe instead of just reacting within it. When you play a rhythm game you don't start to press the corresponding button when it's on the mark, you preemptively move so that by the time it reaches the button you have pressed it. Black flash is the same. It's the difference between Megumi predicting when Toji was going to move to trap and stab him and Maki catching Mai's surprise bullet. So Gojo saying he could do it if it were just the timeframe doesn't mean he would scale to it.
True but gojo stills scales above it
Actually wait this isn’t true. You CAN flow your cursed energy and time it so that it’s outputted within that timeframe but that’s if you can’t react to the time frame (this is most definitely what yuji is doing at the beginning of the series but as of the recent chapters no)zgojo literally explains that it’s a lot of other factors that make the flash. Not just the time frame gojo and yuji could very well be timing it within that timeframe, there are literally speed feats to prove this. Even if you get the exact time frame there are multiple factors that decide if it will work.
Comparing it to a rhythm game is a bad analogy because it only relies on your reaction time to get the point, not a bunch of other factors
@@niberundayo15 He's like Mach 10-12+ for scaling to Sukuna who at half his energy and with soul nerfs can fight Maki who has a mach 5-6 calc of dodging Naoya.
Only MHS with long distance blue since it allowed him to travel across Japan to meet Kenny in a few moments.
@@jackaboynaylor9273 gege admitted that the maki speed feat was a mistake so that is extreme lowballing. Especially since a lot of speed feats after this disprove it
Probably the best and most fair take I've seen on this topic. W video
It is worth noting that the Gojo calc is only that high if you take it as a natural earthquake when using the formula for unnatural earthquakes it’s more so town-large town
This would be consistent with feats such as Jogo’s maximum meteor (large town),Nanami’s earthquake (multi city block),Ryū’s granite blast (small town),Uraume frost calm (small town+),Kashimo’s explosion (small town+) even Sukuna’s malevolent kitchen (Shrine is more accurately translated as kitchen in this context) is scaled to about town level overall
In all reality Yuji’s punching power should be in that small town-town range however if you want to use the wonky Jogo mm calcs he could be UP TO large town with bf
Gon scales off a few feats Uvogin’s punch (mcb+-small town),Beetle blast (town lvl) and the Youpi small city calc as Gon is superior to Pitou who’s superior to Youpi I believe placing Gon above this is fair
So Gon is atleast small city level likely far higher
Speed is a whole different story Gon is simply massively faster
If you join my discord you can see all my jjk calcs and mountain level is actually consistent. Also I am using radiated waves for the earthquake not total seismic energy
@@D.bunk_How big did you say the earthquake is? What magnitude What’s the radius?
@@D.bunk_so is Gon mountain level?
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Gon slams and here is why:
Ap Wise:
Even thought I agree with Sukuna scaling around Mountain it isnt via Gojo earthquake as cursed energy shouldnt count as an open system hence natural earthquake scale isnt valid (no hipocenter, hence shockwaves dont travel trought the underground losing ap) which scales to Small City at best.
Gon on the other hand strengthwise scales at least to rose who had the power of a nuke (Large Mountain Level).
The biggest problem here is speed:
1-The bullet feat is invalid
•Kurapika as soon as Post Hunter Exams was able to dodge a nen enchanted bullet by surprise which should scale to Hypersonic speeds.
•Heavens Arena Killua reacted to lightning.
•New York Base Kurapika yet again reacted to multi nen enchanted machine guns, blocking everyone and himself using chains.
•Ramoot was shown reacting to Killua thunderbolt (even thought slower than it). Ramooth later got massively blitzed by Post Needle Killua.
•Sharnalk being able to react to his own nen ability eletricity speed estimules.
So even a Pre Needle Killua would be able to move at near Mhs speeds (Even tho can be highballed at Mhs+)
Pre Needle Killua Speed- At Least High Hypersonic-Mach 25 (w/Mhs Technique Speed)
Now to calc Pitou Speed
Pre Needle Killua Reactions≈0.000114 seconds
Distance Pitou Travelled=4000m
Speed Needed to fully blitz=10x
Time Pitou Needed to Travel 4000m≈ Less than 0.0000114 Seconds
Speed=Distance/Time
Speed=4000/0.0000114=350 877 193 meters/s (≈ 1.1x Ftl)
Max Pitou Speed≈2.2x Ftl
Gon Completly Preception Blitzed Pitou
Speed Needed to Preception Blitz-2x
Gon Speed- *At least 4.4x Ftl*
Keep in mind thats assuming Pre Needle Killua is High Hypersonic speed if we assume he is Mhs+ then the scale would be around 40x Ftl meaning HxH top tiers are Ftl+
Extra Feats:
•Godspeed Killua stated to have Light Speed reactions (+SoL Godspeed Killua)
•Knuckles being able to briefly preceive to Meruem SoL attack (Relativistic Feat)
•Random Fodder from Kurapika squad being able to react to Franky Nen Enchanted Finger Gun (Hypersonic+ Feat)
•Killua being able to create 64 Afterimages (Circling around Netero with afterimages, using anime we can check 16 Killua clones in an area of around 1/4 of the circle) with Echo Rythm on Hunter Exams (Hypersonic Feat)
Random Calcs:
Pitou Ap based on previous speed feat.
Pitou Mass≈75kg (Average Human)
Pitou Speed= 350 877 193 m/s
Kinetic Energy= 1/2m x Speed²
Pitou Feat Kinetic Energy= 37 500 x 350 877 193²=4.61680517E+21J= 1.25040964109 x 10²² J (HighEnd of Large Island, keep in mind Pitou can use 2x that strength scaling him to Small Country Level Ap)
I will add more scales/feats if I find them (cuz I made em all myself)
You can't use Kinetic energy for ftl speeds. And the formula for Relativistic speeds isn't 1/2mv^2 it's different. Not that it matters anyway it just gets the feat higher lol.
Kinetic energy for sol/ftl speeds is infinite and clearly not eveyr single ftl character High 3A.
@@jjk4002Welp we learn anything new everyday 🤷 (im js 15 I aint no fucking genius)
Even tho I just did the calcs and it wouldnt vary much from what I said (still saying in the Small Country ranges)
But ig using that formula
C=299792458m/s
Pitou Mass≈75 000g
E=mc²
E=75 000x299792458²≈6.7407E+21=1.8323 x 10²²J
@@AglazingTiber Feel like everyone always lowballs HxX when it's blatantly shown that even random fodder hunter can react to & dodge nen enhanced bullets, characters like chetou dodging them at point blank many times over while being a fodder when compared to the higher tiers ants, being the royal guards all who are casually being hypersonic (Pitous first casual jump to kite was hypersonic, her 2nd jump to get back to the palace after netero sent her flying was even faster).
Taking everything from above we then have killua being so fast neither pouf or youpi can react, or do anything to him where he's then eclipsed by gons casual attacks.
@@AglazingTiber Speed ≠ AP
Isn't this kinda too early yuji is fighting and evolving in the recent chapters ?
Hey man! I love your videos especially your Deku scaling, can you please do Ultimate Mechamaru from Jujutsu Kaisen vs Robot (Invincible)
Robot absolutely stomps it’s not even funny bro
Hope copyright ain't taking that one
Sukuna being able to dodge Kashimo magnetic waves is because
In Jjk is stated that when you're going to use CT attack your Cursed energy elevates and then when you sense it you already know that something is coming so you can literally just dodge When Gojo was about to use his technique Sukuna deduced that it was going to be a Red and he was right and when Sukuna used Dismantle and Gojo dodge(a- he saw the attack; b- Energy elevated) even in the first chapter of the fight It is stated that if it wasn't for the barrier Sukuna would have know what was coming because of the Energy
Another thing it was aim Dodging because the first time Kashimo used it Sukuna got hit and Kashimo wasn't that Close to Sukuna
So Sukuna is not Light Speed
Edit: 15 fingers Sukuna Is close to Maki and Yuji together and Yuji is also close to Maki we saw that in the fight and Maki after the time skip is obviously above Mach 3 but before she wasn't
Oh boy- Do you think that the fight will still turn out the same? Especially from all the powerups Yuji has?
Hunter Hunter downplay is crazy😭 yuji is NOT tanking a full power rock from gon kid gon is enough
Hello D.bunk_, I hope you doing well.
I just want to ask you can you scale fire force anime verse or scale one of it's characters ?
That’s actually going to be one of my up coming videos. It’s not the next one but maybe the one after that
@@D.bunk_ Okay 👍
@D.bunk_ Could U do an Eren Yeager from AOT VS Ken Kaneki from TG?
The same sukuna who has the relativistic+ feat was consistently blitzing yujis perception. Sukuna blitzing choso, it's implied nobody could even see it happening. Sukuna cleaving yujis stomach for the first time, yuji didn't even see it. Also sukuna dodging executioner sword point blank. I don't think it's valid to downscale him from that feat. And I'm pretty sure the next valid feat that isn't debunkable is like massively hypersonic(+). So yeah Gon blitzes.
Also the Black flashes were performed on a weakened sukuna. One that is unquantifiably weaker than 20f and therefore gojo aswell. It's implied sukuna is around 15f levels of strength or lower when he was fighting yuta, so his black flashes would probably be small city-city level, as far as I know for 15f sukuna scaling.
Yuji current manga would throttle end of anime Gon in adult form
NAH CAP
YUUJI 258 IS NOT MACH 200-300
7:00 The difference is one doesn't have a cap and the other does.
6:33 Pitou further amped his stats when fighting Gon with Terpsichora and was completely blitzed dodged. Gon later then manhandles a post mortem Terpsichora Pitou with post mortem Nen making shit way stronger.
Gon is light speed, it's not close
Can you do uraraka vs momo
In the fight between Netero and Pitou, the narrator says, 'Pitou was able to capture Netero's movements by sight, which was only possible through infinitely compressed awareness. Essentially, this meant that Pitou stopped the sensation of time passing entirely.' And Netero was able to move faster than that, so that means he was moving at infinite speeds, or even faster.
Hyperbolic statement tbh and you are not about to tell me or have me believe that HxH is infinite I speed, that's delusional 💀
I agree yuji wins but 9 times out of ten I doubt it
Gon has enough force to punch someone to another country and that was regular gon
And if we give yuji cleave to cut through gon it’s only fair to assume gon can use scissors in his adult form to which yuji can’t really do anything against
I agree gon is stronger and also faster than yuji cus of killua light speed reactions with the darts ( he was able to catch the dart as it manifested on him)
So in reaction speed gon will upscale from killua if we use his adult form and it was also shown that adult gon was still stronger and faster than after death death pitou ( nen that is stronger after death) and gon was able to talk to killua in a fraction of a second .
Yuji has more versatile abilities than gon but he won’t have the chance for the finishing blow if we are going with adult gon
Adult gon absolutely stomps 9/10 but regular gon loses to yuji 5/10
And let’s not forget adult gon scales to meruem who was able to tank hundreds of thousands of punches in a matter of minutes from netero and was barely damaged.
What I am trying to say is if we are going with adult gon it’s almost a one sided slaughter with victory going to adult gon
Yuji vs sukuna is weird cus sukuna is basically boxing everyone and is weakened. In sukuna it’s literally one after after the other with no breaks compared to gon who absolutely slaughtered pitou and her post nen pact.
Yuji vs sukuna is similar to luffy vs kaido in the sense that 1v1 no interruptions both at peak conditions sukuna and kaido will win respectively despite all the awakening yuji and luffy got
It’s not the same in adult gon case where it was a one sided beat down.
Victory imo goes to adult gon, yuji has a very slim chance of winning that fight
But with regular gon it’s a more fair fight with victory going to yuji
To tired to deny lots of things but yes, it is a close fight.
i doubt that yuji's shrine is different from sukuna's since yuji only just awakende it and is probably just like how sukuna had to use it when he first had it just look at how he now has to actually touch his target to actually damage anyone
jjk caps at mach3 and gon is 4.8 mach after greed Island so i dint see the speed advantage the lighting and black hole feat in jjk was dismissed by the author himself
feats>statements. plus Gege never dismissed anything above mach 3. And even if he did it wouldn't matter because author intent doesn't matter in power scaling
@@D.bunk_ thank you wise one 🙏
4:21 gohan
W D.Bunk W Speed
The black flash one is wrong cuz kf the translation
Both the fan translation and the official translation say the same thing about the timeframe so idk what you are on about
@@D.bunk_ it differs from being impact and application
@@400kzephyr I have no clue what you are talking about or how it relates to anything I said in the video
@@D.bunk_so does adult gon is mountain level?
Much better matchup than one of these two vs Deku
current Yuji is stronger than Gon now
@apocrypha5062 nope gon stomps
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Vary good scaling
yuji one shot gon with what ???
I haven't fully watched the vid but probably soul punches
gon is beating him
Imo yuji slams
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