STIHL CHAIN SAW REPAIR : OEM VS AFTERMARKET
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WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT AFTERMARKET PARTS? leave comments below
Rebuilt a husky 288 last year with aftermarket jug, piston, bearings, still running like a champ, the gaskets were kinda funky, but a little TLC with a razor knife and they were good to go.
Like one poster said if you're gonna go oem you might as well can the thing and buy a new saw, you can do three after market rebuilds for the price of one oem.
I have rebuilt quite a few stihl's and I can tell you that if you use NWP Brand Pistons and Cylinders you will actually be getting as good or better quality rebuilds than any other brand and they run about $100.-$130. per kit. One thing that I like about NWP is they coat most of their pistons with a teflon coating which really helps allow proper break in without metal to metal friction and also the entire outside of the cylinder is coated with teflon which is a superb way of helping reduce buildup of baked on sawdust and oil. Go with NWP and try it out for yourself!
Jeremy I finished the install on the new cylinder and piston. I purchased a NWP big bore from baily's on line Every thing was good except the gasket that came with the cylinder kit. It cost me $129 for the kit plus tax. It actually runs better than the original saw. It has a lot more power and little or no stalling under a heavy load. I use this saw for milling wood so it gets put to the test. Thanks for all the helpful videos.
I've used a few aftermarket kits, I use genuine parts for the likes of gudgeon pin, gaskets etc though, never had a problem
Rebuilt an older 066 with Baileys oversize piston and jug kit. Runs strong, maybe better than new of course. Been about 6 months no problems.
i rebuilt a husqvarna 51 chainsaw with the aftermarket kit piston,ring,jug,gaskets,ect. i did it a year augo & i cut 5 days a week in the winter so its running!!!! its doing great so far.no complaints.$35 vs $200.
I have a Stihl Farm Boss MS290 20" $399. new. I've found more Aftermarket engines for this than any other saw, that says something. Mine was was less than one year old when it lost compression and stopped running. I had a bottle of generic 2 cycle oil in the case when I took it to the dealer and because of that they said they wouldn't cover it under warranty. They wanted $379. to replace the Cylinder, Piston and Rings. Got Ebay Aftermarket within one week for $39. and have used it for three years and over 30 Cord. I definitely got $39. dollars worth of cutting out of it.
great story. good to hear the ebay stuff worked out.
Awesome to hear!
And it also makes sense for 39 bucks...
For $379 to repair it, i would tell them to stuff their saw, and would spend the $20 more to buy brand new!
I think that’s what the saw manufacturers would prefer you do
Cheap mix oil... your own fault ...stay with quality or pay way more down the road....probably still trying run crap.... learn and move on
I broke piston on my 10 year old ms290 (my fault) 4 years ago, I installed amazon $40.00 cylinder/piston kit and still working great to this day and I cut lots of oak fire wood, I don't see how stihl $350 kit could have served any better
I rebuilt an 026 that my uncle had junked just for a little tinker project, went with an after market jug and piston. Like you said I de burred the exhaust port but it had ran flawless for over a year.
logan baker then what happened? and how much did you use it in that year?
If you are rebuilding the engine and you actually know what you are doing and have some tools at your disposal you can fine tune the aftermarket stuff....I look at it like I’m saving some money because I’m the final inspection station and I’m going to need to ease my edges and possibly straighten something out... they are less finished than the OEM... although I’ve definitely needed to tighten up some OEM topends as well... the quality of the aftermarket has jumped up significantly in the past couple years for certain and some aftermarket actually exceeds the OEM option! It’s a beautiful time to be into saw’s and saw repair! And because of some competition we are seeing those OEM prices come down out of the stratosphere!!! Why weren’t they more reasonable for the past 10 years??? It’s definitely a great day to be alive and working on powersaw’s!!!
I put an aftermarket piston/cylinder kit into a 359 HUSQV. I am totally satisfied with the resulting job after 3 years of use.
I use a lot of farmertec stuff, most of it is pretty good for light to moderate use. for your average consumer most of the time it fits the bill. prices are very reasonable. I have had a few lemons but I caught them before I put them into service.
I realize you posted this 3 years ago but I'm gonna agree with you. I've worked on my own stuff all my life and I'm talking since 1996 when I was racing go-carts and I'm 33 now. I'm sure you've been in it much longer but I'll use aftermarket part on a lot of things as long as the parts aren't so cheap that it's garbage and wont last. It's happened, I've bought a brand and it turn out to be junk and I just stay away from that brand. I have 18 old chain saws. Some from the 70s and 80s and a few from the early 90s ( My dad was a logger ). Most are Jonsered, a few Stihl and a few Husqvarna. They haven't run in years and some haven't ran in 20 years. I've been able to fix most of them on my own. I was glad to have stumbled upon your video earlier tonight on pressure testing the crank case. So I've been watching more of your videos. I have air getting sucking in from somewhere so I had to search for reasons unknown to me. This is the first time I've needed help fixing a saw and I'm very thankful for ya.
I am a gold certified Stihl masterwrench technician and I have had varied results with aftermarket cylinders. Some I've put on are still going strong after two years, and some lasted about 60 seconds or less before exploding. I've never had that happen with OEM parts.
I got a piston and cylinder kit aftermarket came with bearings and crank seals used aftermarket crank seals in the past had no problem last week I rebuilt another one and the crank seals were too tight around the crankshaft
Meteor kits are as close to oem as you can get I put a hyway kit on my 036 only lasted a few months before a catastrophic failure rebuilding it with a meteor piston and cylinder. As far as gaskets and seals go always use OEM aftermarket is a gamble enough and they tend to cause air leaks
I put a Zama Carb on my Husky 359. After fixing many other issues with the saw, found that the carb wouldn't adjust. Ran extremely rich ( even with both screws all in). Ordered another. Worked perfect. Didn't even need adjusting. I guess first one was made on Chinese friday.
Also would like to know the origin country of manufacture of these cylinder kits. Some retailers will tell you, others dont.
if you can find a Tecomec kit it will last as long as oem
Where do u find those in Canada
Here's another angle.
I just got a Stihl 038 AV Magnum saw back from the Stihl dealer's repair shop. They say it's not repairable because it has cylinder & piston damage and parts are not available.
"Aftermarket" looks like it may be my only choice if I want to use that saw.
it really depends on the after market stuff. I did a lot of Car stuff for a long time and there was places that I would buy after market and places I would not because of the quality difference.
Thanks for making this video I'm doing the same thing .
I started using stuff from eBay and so far its worked out great . I all ways ask my customers first and explain to them what I'm using , all have chosen after market
Do aftermarket pistons, rings, and jugs require more oil in the fuel mix than the original parts?
Thanks for the vid, I don't know how I missed it last year. I am picky about AM parts especially about the rings, on the Tecomecs, Meteor/Caber's and Highway Kits I'll use the rings, but everything else get's Caber's- the better rings give more compression.... I am wary of the Chinese circlips too.
thanks for the suggestion. i also agree with using good rings.
yup they are junk the clips fall out and trash the top end. cheap china junk
How do I install and seat the Brass impulse fitting on the cylinder jug? It slides into place but what do I use to seat it ??
Eric the car guy sent us here!
Found the aftermarket pots and pistons on Ebay and Ive given a few old saws a new lease of life.
2xms200t's and my first (1999) 020t
Currently rebuilding an old 026. £30 for pot and piston kits and £12 for a carb (the rebuild kit was £8 so its a no brainer) Just ordered 026 bearings which I'm slightly concerned about but in truth the saw has been sitting in a box for 5 years in bits so nothing ventured nothing gained I think.
Just wish they did ms200t carburetors cos they always fail and are notoriously hard to rebuild (C1Q S32)
Been a power equipment tech for 35 yrs. Looks like the general consensus here is that aftermarket stuff is OK. I agree and here's why. I've got news for the few that disagree in that one of the "major player" brands purchased ZAMA corp a few yrs ago and thus why you'll find ZAMA carbs on virtually every model sold. ZAMA is in China. Several models of their equipment are manufactured and assembled there as well and state such on the serial number sticker, which also by the way are more obscurely placed rather than in plain sight. Also they are not manufacturing their pistons, bearings, etc in-house but are having them manufactured in China. There are exceptions but for the most part those 50.00 - 129.00 aftermarket kits are just as good as the 300.00 ones because they come from the same place. Like it was mentioned there is overcast (one of the reasons they're cheaper) so a little clean up (polishing is recommended) and use LOT's of assembly oil. Installed correctly these CHEAP kits will provide years of good service.
+wizlivesagain first off all stihl bought zama.... and zama is japanese brand wich factory is placed in china..... stihl factory in china made only hobby saws and trimmers in china and there are no parts made there for proffesional stihls.... stihl ms 362 uses walbro carb and its piece of shit nowdays.... on cm model is zama and work with no problem.....also 461 and 661 uses walbro carbs atleast here in europe
I'm not going to elaborate any further because I'm in the industry as a tech. I know what I know. I never mentioned any manufacturer by name. "Some", not all but including pro models machined parts were indeed manufactured in China and due to tolerance issues failed prematurely and they have gotten away from doing that as much and just recently. It's all about saving a buck.
MS = Most Sh***y. I love my Stihls but the new stuff is junk. Old stuff = West Germany...yeah baby!!! Even the Husqy dealer says gotta buy a pro model to get something decent...wont even deal with the 1xx series. 435's and better i think he said.. Zama may be a Japanese company but imho an American flag made in China by China is still a Chinese flag. And I will use Chinese parts myself because what the hell makes a Husqy cylinder worth 55bucks and a Stihl worth $300 At that price Id expect it to say "Polaris" on it.. if you've ever bought Polaris parts you'll get it!!
the china cylinders dont come from the same place as oem you stupid fuck.
Amsoil engine builders lube soaks into the cylinder lining and piston. Lube then and put them in a ziplock after quick polish and put them on the shelf! They're ready for years of service! Hutzl Chinese parts are good. There's casting flash and imperfections in the transfers and ports of lots of husky and Stihl saws that are brand new...
Rebuilt an older husky 288 I found in the trash(no joke) with a cheap ebay p/c and ran the piss outta it last year for my firewood buisness. No issues. Still be using it, but the 288 was a tad overkill for what I was doin. 357xp is now my go to saw. Only thing bad I have to say about the ebay stuff, and you mentioned it here, QC kinda sucks. Definatly watch for casting marks were the molds didn't sit right. And check the ports. Continued.......
Aftermarket all the way buddy!!
i work on outboards engines what i do is if its under warrenty yes oem but if its not i will price oem and aftermarket and leave it up to the customer and never sell an aftermarket part as oem right
Aftermarket would be fine for me when it comes to the cylinder
Hey Bud what's the best Cylinder Kit for the $$$ For a Stihl MS 290 Farm Boss in your opinion?
If you ever wanted to try your hand at porting a saw, ebay cylinders are great to learn on and are a bit more forgiving as far as the wallet is concerned.
I think after market is the better choice in this case as long as you mic it b4 installing it and look for defects you will have a good chance its not a bad part. Oem doesn't stand for quality like it used to also people that don't work on this kind of equipment every day just don't see the same junk parts all the time that oem and after market both seem to be sending more often nowadays.
john15955 just because it mics out ok does not meen its good. nikasil is very thin piston rings and clips are total garbage
My husband is a big fan of the after market price but has never rebuilt a chainsaw except his Poland chainsaw and it froze up when he tried to use it in warm weather. He will definitely buy the aftermarket parts if the need arises, it only makes sense.
Cathie Barnes not very smart runs a poulan. just throw it away its junk
good price!
View on Farmertec Vs. Stihll.
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I could get six aftermarket for the price of one factory. That's fine with me. With these small engines, i've had great success with the eBay goods. I just port and polish mine and they always work.
Where might you suggest looking for old saw parts such as Jonsered? I'm having trouble finding some things such as clutches. I guess they never intended these saws to last 30 years or better. I've tried ebay and actually found a few parts.
Mike B old jonsered parts are hard to find heck you cant even hardly get parts for a jonsered thats 10 years old. jonsered is going to cease to be around soon hardly no dealers left anymore and nobody buys them anymore. just go buy a Stihl
Aftermarket is a very good value. If you're rich and don't mind burning money go with oem.
A lot of aftermarket branded parts are made in the same factory as the original in China or Taiwan but don't have the same finish quality as original.
I would go with the OEM if it was mine, but I'm kind of a purist when it comes to high grade brands like Stihl. If it was a homelite or something cheap to begin with I wouldn't care what the brand was.
Some good, some not so much. Got a kit from Amazon for my MS180C that contained carb and filter, fuel line and filter, oil pump, oil line and filter. It began leaking oil and really made a mess when stored. I fooled with that thing for about a day and a half trying to find the leak. Finally got so po'd, tore it down, pulled the fly wheel and the oil tank thinking it had a hole in it. Nope, POS oil line. It didn't have enough flange on it to hold securely in the oil tank. Plus, it seemed like it had too much plastic and not enough rubber. Got one from Stihl and problem went away. Big difference in material. What a PITA.
But the good news is everything else seems fine. The air filter that came in the bundle fits and seals better than the original.
Never had an Asian part go bad (since the late '90s). I have had many OEM parts come back wrong. Stihl in particular changes parts around so fast you can't keep up. The MS880 exhaust fit to the cylinder is a good example.
Funny thing happened when I ordered a knock off MS192 engine. It showed up in a Stihl bag. I compared them with calipers. They were dead equal. I paid $125 on eBay for a complete assembled OEM engine, boot, impulse, plug and Tiny tube of Dirko. Hilarious if you do any of this stuff for very long.
you are a fucking idiot. so many stupid people on youtube it aint funny WOW
Crocellian i work on 1000s of Stihls a month i dont have any problems you must be stupid
www.ebay.com/itm/37mm-Cylinder-Piston-Kit-For-Stihl-MS192T-MS192TC-Chainsaw-1137-020-1203-/222325351851?hash=item33c39fa5ab:g:Q2YAAOSwEzxYN4ph
Well the aftermarket one looks decent, if the bore is the same then i would say yes.
For that price its almost a give away, if it has a short life then plop another on, your bound to get a year out of it.
Before your hand came into view they looked like big castings, and a shock to see how diddy they are when you reached for them lol, cute diddy castings :-)
if your running stock power for home/occasional use the aftermarket cylinder will probably work... if you are falling timber or using the saw 6+hrs per day and are going to do any modifications to it (porting, milling, transfer port work, decking, changing the timing). then the OEM cylinder is the way to go. the aftermarket ones don't hold up. just my 2 cents and what I've seen.
I guess I have used just about every type of two cycle oil in existence in the past 40 odd years. I think I still have several cans of stamina that I used in my Poulan saws for years. the problem, today, is the sorry gas we are forced to use thanks to the Clinton's. I use stihl's ultra oil because I have a good supply for it and it is synthetic. I also know it is made by a good manufacturer- Castrol. I like Penns oil better but I do not have a good source for it. my friend from Wisconsin uses Citgo two cycle oil but I do not have a supplier for it, either. I have used a lot of husqvarna LS oil but it is only partially synthetic. I do not run my stihl or husqvarna equipment with other than a 50:1 mix. I do break in new engines at a little bit richer mix but not over 2 cupful of extra Ultra oil in the tank but only for the first tank. the second tank gets only one cap full extra. after that they get my standard 50:1 mix of premium, non ethanol mix. the key to the life of any chainsaw is not to work it beyond its capabilities. my ms 170 only works at a one tank a daw clip ,but I will work my bigger saws more. I generally get tired before they do.
any help would be appreciated for an aftermarket cylinder for Poulan Pro
Can this fit on 80cc engine?
I have no problem with aftermarket stuff as long as it works, its a hell of a lot cheaper and it willl last as long or close to as long as OEM stuff if you take good care of it
no it wont last as long you are only fooling yourself
always keep in mind that there is a reason for the warranty.
what do think is the best aftermarket cylinder. I have been looking at a Hyway and Farmertec.
John Clarke junk. buy tecomec or meteor
@@Wanous-hv7zo Search hard and OEMs can be found cheap and in good shape.
Buying the OEM part would make the repair cost more than the original cost of the saw!
Do they make aftermarket parts for the MS271?
Joe Tittiger no they do not
Joe Tittiger oem cheap alot,if buy original parts better u buy new chainsaw.
I do many rebuilds on stihl products and I find the after market kits are good for the smaller engine size machines, anything up to an ms260 id say they were OK but I've had issues with the bigger machines and won't entertain them, ts410 not so bad, ms660 waste of time ect
i'm pretty happy with using cylinder and piston kits on my saw. just finished rebuilding my ms 361 two days ago, it has great compression and power. it's a NWP big bore kit from baileys. the first kit i bought from them lasted about two, maybe three years and i do a fair amount of cutting and ripping with it. this second kit should last me way longer though! i have two other saws now, a 441 and an 880! if you can get an old saw to run for half or less than what a new saw cost, it's worth doing!
The one guy I trust and who has been in the business for many years. He told me the after market stuff is junk. He said in almost every case it had come back to bite him on the backside
I had to replace the engine head on a FS55 trimmer. I got a after market kit. They did not send the clips to hold the pin for the head. So after going to several small engine repair shops. And nobody has them but not to worry they can order them. Also no one has the ring compress tool. To put the piston back into the head. So it goes to a shop next week.
. I am thinking , OH Great ! since I just got one. This may be a bad omen, No locking clips, No tool to compress the rings. And I have to let someone else work on it.
+William Wynn the chinese make the parts for stihl oem.
And how is it someone else's fault you don't own tools or know how to place a parts order? Maybe you should just not try and play mechanic and skip straight to the part where you take your equipment to an experienced and trained professional. Reading your comment made my brain hurt! It was like ... I think I should fire my tennis coach while eating a Snickers because the sky is blue.
listen to him he is rite. but tecomec and meteor is good stuff china stuff is total garbage
Use the Caber rings, not what comes with the cylinder.
You don't need special tools to rebuild a topend
hey, the 44,7 mm for ms 261 is good for 271? I don't find cylinder for 271
oem only on 271
Also, jack- wagon (refuses to associate you and and 442 ... what did you read about them in some magazine?). Anyway in or before 2014 your thinking would have been more in line. With production advancements and the hiring of really experienced manufacturing engineer's the "clone's" are getting better by the day. And that a great thing for a guy that cuts wood.No loggers would ever dream of a non OEM jug&piston .... I mean 32:1 of 40:1 max % of an excellent synthetic oil and a mechanic with the ability to put a good tune on the saw if not auto-tuned and equipment still fails.... for someone not running 8 hours the non OEM is a viable option these days.in my humble opinion and the hundred of hours I have on my 350 and various other builds. Amsoil builders lube and 40:1 and Rock and Roll feller''s!!!! Get'er Done! ✌️😎
what is the port below the spark plug called and its purpose? I am trying to figure out how the air fuel mixture is released.
The piston serves as a valve in this case. When the plug fires and the piston is on it way down it starts to compress the fuel charge inside the crankcase. When the
Piston starts to uncover the transfer ports and the fuel mix is forced on top of the piston, as the piston makes its way up and closes off the transfer port. The piston starts compressing the fuel mix for the next power stroke.
If the guy's like you, has a lot of experience going with a particular aftermarket company and claims it's good, I'd probably trust his word on it and let him do it. Though not all aftermarket is created equal, I've seen TONS of shit come from aftermarket companies.
Hi will a ms660 cylinder fit on a ms460
I've used dozens of aftermarket pistons and cylinders for years on all my Stihl chainsaws with ZERO issues, and all my saws are HEAVILY used!!!!! And like you said, OEM Stihl engine parts have NO warranty and aftermarket does, and at less than 1/4 the cost over OEM!!!! To me, it's a no-brainer!!! Going with aftermarket has saved me literally $1000's over the years!!!! And BTW, I NEVER use Stihl 2 stroke oil, either regular or their synthetic, it's junk!!!!!! I only use Redline 2 Stroke Racing or Klotz Supertechniplate oil, and always mixed 40:1!! Maybe that's part of the reason I get way longer use (even running aftermarket) out of my saws between rebuilds than the guys dead set on using only Stihl oil??
Tom Kuhlman you lie a lot
Yeah right!!!!!!
Tom Kuhlman you lie like crazy. what brand are they?
1970 olds442 I ALWAYS use Meteor cylinders and have never had an issue. What would be the purpose of lying about that?? But also, like I said, I use farrrrrrrrr superior 2 stroke oil compared to Stihl junk line of oils!!!!!
I have to agree, STIHL oil is Junk.
I disagree with the 40:1 ratio mix. I run 80:1 or 100:1 Amsoil Saber and have for years in all my Equipment.
Long story short my wife helped consolidate my gas collection and I unknowingly ended up with mineral spirits in my 2 cycle gas can. Well that didn’t end well. It causes the crank seals to fail in my MS310 modded chainsaw, my pb210e blower my MS461 and a 55 Husky. The MS310 is 18 years old and you could still read the part number on the dome top piston that was in the saw. The blower was a 1978 echo first failure ever. The MS461 was a year old still under warranty the Husky is 17 years old. Guess which piston was in the worst shape because of the manufactures extra warranty clause? The MS461 because I had to run 50:1 STIHL junk oil for the first 25 hours for the warranty to be active.
got a meteor pot and piston kits and seems just as good, i wouldn't get a cheap one. i'm trying to find a good non genuine carb for my ms360 chainsaw. any ideas?
nope buy oem on carbs china ones are garbage been there done that.
Find the proper size/configuration Walbro carb for your saw. Walbro is about the best you can get!!! New carb shouldn't cost more than $40-$60 bucks!!! Been using them for 20+ yrs with no problems!!!
ohtom just get one of those cheap china ones cheap ass
if it lasts 1/5th as long as the genuine one, your'e still saving money.
I have a brand new Poulan Pro well is my father-in-law does and he ran it dry and his new top-end where can I buy it not been for that cylinder I mean.. he started having problems with and I told him dump the fuel and start over because of the cheap 2-cycle oil your 2-cycle oil sucks I learned my lesson with YZ 250s
I've used the aftermarket husq 55 cylinder piston with aftermarket carbs for my own personal use. They hold up ok. Tries an Everest brand aftermarket 455 piston cylinder kit and it was crap. The holes for the screws were not drilled deep enough and the base of the cylinder busted when I torqued it. The corner broke right off. I've also used the complete aftermarket long block for a Stihl Ms 290. It was supposed to be a big bore upgrade, but it had no power. That model saw was supposed to compete with a Husqvarna 55 or 455. Not even close. The saw even from Stihl without any aftermarket parts was junk. So, I have had limited success with the aftermarket stuff. When it let's go, I just buy another. That way I have no come backs, because it's my own stuff.
390 big bore replacement from Bailey's. Upgrade for the 290. Still had no power.
stihl offers a warranty on all replacement parts, been there done that! lol
I hear ya brother.
After market. run it pretty hard if it doesn't fail it's good if it fails it's under warranty so just get another and your money back
i like the way you think!
wow are you a idot and a cheap ass
so jeremy I have a ms 200 t what replacement you recomend and , please ,why ?
juan carls de la cruz meteor
I would buy a new saw before shelling out 300 unless its an 800 dollar or more saw.
Oem or aftermarket?Like you say in your comment below Sthil is now china.I believe my old small Husqvarna was a rebadged Poulan.I think if I was making a living still with an 066 sthil parts all the way.For the smaller saws I would not have a problem with aftermarket.My ford truck gets nothing but Ford motor craft. My 93 Subaru wagon gets Auto zone.
i say go for it ,, that chainsaw dont know the difference i bet it dont care either
As a landscape professional, I would go aftermarket.
DGTrees2005 cause you make No money
@@Wanous-hv7zo you're a dipshit if you think landscapers don't make money
He’s already cutting corners on equipment... what else is being short changed???
The aftermarket pistons and jug isn't really for power tools. They are for recreational toys and scooters. Here is one prime example. This setup will fit my stihl fs55r trimmer www.oneillbrothers.com/race-ported-27-2-upgrade-2-bolt.html
After market , but decent quality after market.. .If it wears out in half the time just get another,
wtbm123 must like to fix your shit all the time and waste money
Does Anyone know a after market cylinder for ms391
WHY?
OKi
Major parts that are aftermarket, haven't had an issue. Minor parts such as fuel pumps ETC., they suck. America=Best, as always
Can you provide a link to an aftermarket replacement.
Jude Augusta EBAY EBAY EBAY
Jude Augusta buy ebay searh 1 by 1 cheap,parts original if u buy,better buy new chainsaw
l use a lot of after market stuff . l'm still in business.
Bert Cochran proly dont do much work
George/ I live in Canada where can i order these after market parts
Saw parts Canada located in Brampton Ontario. These guys are great to deal with and very quick shipping within 3 business depending where in Canada you are located. Give them a try. I just ordered a nikasil kit from them this am for my ms261
I wouldn't pay OEM prices , I've used a lot of aftermarket cylinders with no problems whatsoever
I am waiting on my Nikasil Cylinder Piston Kit Fits Stihl 038 MS380 OEM 11190201204 52mm I was checking the piston & the muffler bolts were WAY to tight to beging with i thought for sure they would break off in the holes they didn't BUT the threads were on the bolts from the cylinder so i have to replace the cylinder anyway now so i fount the one i was needing an Ebay for Only $27.48
& Free S&H i have used several aftermarket parts & i have no bones about any of them if i had to buy the OEM cylinder it wouldn't be cost effective it would be cheaper to replace the entire saw & the MS380 Magnum isn't made anymore so if ya were to find a OEM replacement cylinder it would cost too much i am glad we have other options now i always try to buy most of the aftermarket parts from the same seller if i can IMHO i would gladly use any good aftermarket parts to repair saws for the folks that bring them to me to repair
Worth to try aftermarket kits, one year warranty on STIHL HUSQVARNA cylinder piston kits and other main parts, if any problem we replace or refund, HUZTL Farmertec aftermarket expert, welcome to visit www.huztl.net for more details
Depends what you use it for..... residential or medium jobsite....it's Fine. If you're a professional logger, obviously you have the money for OEM, and buy from the Dealer, and want someone to hold responsible if your saw burns up.....I've had GOOD luck with aftermarket...although the piston rings they supplied Sucked.....cheap cast iron, and DIDN'T even fit the piston! So had to order a second set of Steel rings from Greece.(only $15 more).....after that, the saw ran Great! It also depends WHAT aftermarket brand you're getting........Mako(Australia) seems to have a pretty good reputation, and 1 or 2 others.....but some aftermarket have a Junk rep.
so i just order it off of ebay
I've had the aftermarket fail far more than the oem
yup cheap junk
I only use OEM when I do a complete restoration on a Stihl chainsaw for my customers. Im not cheap im good at what I do and I back my saws 200 percent. When you use junk aftermarket your reputation goes down. OEM all the way.
Steve Wrightington oem is made in china. Tecomec is far superior to oem.
mAYBE BUT ITS GOT TO MEET sTIHL qUALITY THROUGH THEIR qUALITY CONTROL DEPARTMENT. BIG DIFFERENCE
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Made a video of ms170 after market on my channel
I been rebuilding chainsaws for years and I have to say OEM is the way to go, But there are some good aftermarket parts that I have used and they have done well in the field . I have a Stihl 084 I have rebuilt and ill put that son of a bitch up against any saw on the planet. I recommend the fuel in the can 50to 1 cant go wrong with it. Main thing is when you rebuild a saw make sure your crankcase is still good check it good and start your rebuild fresh my best advice I can give you . any questions please feel free to contact me I be happy to answer any questions .
made in Taiwan
AM parts are for people who cant afford the real deal none and I mean NONE of them are factory specs they may come close but no cigar and put them to full time use and see how long they last...
Nobody believes you because ur username proves you're just a USA fanboy. So STFU
Watch hotsaws review of factory strato saws ,the oem tolerances are getting looser.
i bought a complete ms260 engine assembled from huztl on the bay. what a pile of junk and forget returning it cause shipping back to china w/ tracking is more than engine cost. came w/ fins broken off head since they didn't even put it in a box, just styrofoam w/ tape around it. piston & cylinder had scratches, wrist pin bearing race was cracked & lots of metal shavings inside engine. oh yea and they assembled it dry!
yup pure garbage
and the after market garbage makes no power
Sandy Wanous they cant make the same design as Oem so yes they do not make the power Oem does. i have tested lots of big bore kits and a stock Stihl will out perform them every time. you cant get quality in a $50 or less topend
Yes you can, you just need to know how. $260 for a damn ts 420 cylinder? Haha what a joke. When for $150 it gets a full overhaul including gaskets and bearings
Odd how 2 Wanus's are talking to each other like they "agree" that aftermarket can't make the power that stihl OEM makes. Yeah.... Bullshit. Quit hugging stihl's nuts. I like stihl parts. But not any better than I do meteor. The kit I have on my ms361 makes far more power than a stock 361. Not ported. Just a little love. The last 361 piston I got I took back. It was horrid looking. Worse than any cheaper chinesium I've ever seen. If you think stihl doesn't have QC issues, man are you wrong! Plus, Mahle no longer makes the P&C. Whoever is making the new ones is doing a shitty job.
My .02 cents. For whatever it's worth.
@@Wanous-hv7zo "big bore kits" suck. A well constructed stock P&C and good tune is what a saw needs to make power. I assure you, OEM doesn't make any more power than companies like meteor, tecomec, and cross.
David Briot those are good brands the ones i am taking about are farmer junk and the ones for $50 and less they are garbage
The problem with cheap kits are many. First what is the makeup of the metal that goes into this item? Can they control the quality from one batch to the next? what about the rings? How much force does it take to close them? What did they plate the cylinder with? The answer to all are not good enough. The only Aftermarket cylinder that are any good time after time are the ones made by Meteor Pistons. They have been making cylinders and pistons for more than 40 years. How long has the cheap knockoff been around? Tell me you really believe a cheap knockoff going to perform like one that has the right specification that will give good performance. Cheap is cheap
you are 100% rite
Yes, I agree. After main bearing break up I rebuilt a MS210 to MS250 spec using chinese parts. After 60 hours hard use the oiler stopped working and upon tearing the saw down i noted 3mm vertical crankshaft play and zero lateral play. Something has caused the main bearings to eat into the transfer port bearing ridge on the Chinese barrel which has lead to this problem. I am going back to the old oem 210 barrel and fitting a meteor piston/rings. I would be interested to hear of anyone else who has had a similar problem with aftermarket parts.
I have been running chainsaws most of my life.im 38 now and log almost everyday.i run three brands still,husqvarna and echo.never have burnt one up.not one.the only saws I fix we're burnt when I got them.just saying.runng 32:1 in all my saws.and I run them sharp and hard.real hard.
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Aftermarket Rules !!! 15 minutes of polishing lets you do the needed porting to be better then OEM... That is worth the $200 bucks in my book !!!
tecomec or meteor are good china stuff JUNK. i own a saw shop and have been in business for 24 years
How about a link to the tecomec or meteor stuff? Do they make parts for the MS271? TIA
David Thorne 271 parts are going to be oem only
I'm good with the 54 ported ya jack wagon....blowhahrd. What state you live in?
Calling someone retarded shows your total lack of taste and judgement. I'm extremely surprised that someone claiming to have a successful business with 1/4 million in inventory would have such an inability to use big boy words and would sound more like some poorly raised seventh grader.
300 bucks I'll buy a new saw
Or a old mans saw that kicked the bucket, that used his 036 PRO to cut an X-Mas tree every year is all it ever did for 300.
I PUT 2 AFTERMARKET CYLINDERS TO MY STIHL MS660 AND SCORED ONLY ONE WORKER DAY AND THE OTHER 3 WEEKS WORK.
RAMON AYALA need to find the cause of the failure. Stop throwing parts at it and TEST NOT GUESS
i need change the crankshaft too?
RAMON AYALA kinibling pin broke
which is that?
I do my best to not support China and they suck far as power loss. Hyway or Meteor seem to perform the best for me.