Secret to large loops is don't think about pushing down like on a traditional lever. Force your hand straight forward and back (think pump action,) let the mechanical guidance take care of the rest. Works like a charm on my rossi large loop trapper. Feels faster than a regular loop, too!
Right. I think Hickok actually pulls down from the top of the lever and does not use the back of his hand. He discussed that in a video with a large loop gun. It takes some training to change habits.
It's not faster. That don't even make any sense. The laws of physics do apply. No matter how you slide your hand it has to be at the bottom for down and top for up. You never see over size lever at 3 gun cowboy competitions and it's because they are much slower. They are not intended to be faster they are intended for massive gloves.
@@TargetSuite it’s not super common these days but there are some mighty big gloves out there. My family had an old school pair of snowmobile mittens that were massive, think bomber jackets for your hands.
I've always been told the loops are big because they were meant for wearing thick gloves in cold weather hunting. I have the big loop, but I don't shoot it enough to bother me.
I seen on eBay a leather lace that goes on the the lever action rifle and they also have a leather sleeve that goes on the butt of wood stock to hold ammo pretty cool dress up kit for your lever action rifle
@@philipbutler2488 Yes, I agree. I bought two of the medium loop levers from Ranger Point Precision and installed them on a Marlin 1895 45-70 and a Marlin 1895M 450 Marlin. They helped greatly to mitigate the recoil effects on my fingers when shooting these Thumpers.
@@waynehajek6346My grandpa left my father a model 1894 30-30. My dad said that lever was wrapped his whole childhood. I just recently redid it myself as it was starting to show its wear after over half a century of use. There was absolutely ZERO rust under the leather wrapping. In fact, the finish under the wrapping was flawless compared to the rest of the rifle which has a nice patina.
Try waiting gloves. You know like you did with the other leaver. And Paracird does great too. They are made for when you hunt in cold. With gloves or mittens on. You can always make the loop smaller but not bigger.
If no one else mentioned "The Rifleman," I will. It starred former NBA player Chuck Connors, and ran from 1958-63 and featured a Winchester 1892 with a large loop lever. A machine screw was attached to the lever of the stunt rifle to make it fire with each cocking. It was probably chambered in .25-20 to have it fire its 12-round capacity for maximum effect. True Grit was released in 1969, meaning this TV show beat it out by a full decade for popularizing that large-loop lever. A friend received a toy copy for Xmas 1961. It was a flimsy piece of crap, but we had fun firing rolls of paper caps with it.
You’re not right, you’re not wrong. It’s what works for the gun owner and they like and are comfortable with. It’s why we all have choices. Also, in the right hands, it’s not slop!
I’ve never had a large loop but I can see where that medium loop would work out pretty good for me with gloves or mittens. The guy with really large hands and big fat mittens would probably enjoy the big one.
I agree I like the standard lever myself. I think the only benefit of the bigger opening is if you're hunting in the winter time with gloves on but it also need a larger trigger opening too. Thank you 👍
George, like you I don't like the slop in the large loop levers. I've found the best way to use the large loop lever is NOT to bring your hand down like a standard size lever, but to push your hand forward so the front of the loop rotates around the front of your hand, then bring the loop up as you normally would. There is no slop if you do it that way; give it a try.
Your right, the ones made by RPP are the perfect size, not to big, and a little bigger than the original, I’ve had one on my 94 cowboy for about 4 years and it works great
Usually decorate an oversized loop and used in the winter, some oldheads back in the day swapped between the two when they didnt have another spare rifle that wasn't a bolt or pistol. Gpa tried to teach us how to do it while doing maintenance but heaven forbid an old yehaw not drink and become a bad kid too lmao
I like the medium size better, but am hoping ruger makes some standard size for pistol grips in the future. Really hard to find. Also levers are not 100% drop in, some fitting may be required.
I agree with you on the RPP levers. My big fingers kept getting hammered in the old, stock, levers on my 45/70 and 450. RPP medium oversize loops took the pain out of my range sessions.
It gets cold here in deer season, cold enough that I sometimes forget wearing gloves and wear mittens. Standard loops aren’t great when wearing thick gloves or mittens. If I lived down south it probably wouldn’t be a thing for me, but up here where we burn our wood stoves 6 months out of the year, I like a large loop.
Yeah that was actually customized. Guys that were out on horseback and trap lines and freezing cold weather had big old thick mints and they still had to use their rifle. 😢😮
I may be in the minority but I love those laminated stocks Remington was putting on the marlins. Still really want one of the new Ruger made ones though
I like the larger Loop but it makes room for my gloves when I hunt during the winter so I prefer the larger Loop it makes it better to talk the gun with gloves on because my gloves will fit in the loop and I don't have to take them off so my hands don't get cold
I believe the oversized Loop lever was made famous by John Wayne in the movie True Grit. Where he twirled the rifles to reload. About the only reason to have one unless you're using it in very cold weather, and are wearing heavy gloves.
I own four JM stamped Marlin 336c in 35 Remington I bought that 3 were literally LNIB excellent condition with absolutely gorgeous walnut and deep rich blueing ond one that was in good condition Bought all before the prices went crazy Were my fist high powered CF LA rifles only owned bolt actions before that Was hoping for anything under 2.5MOA at 100 and very pleasantly shocked and amazed when they all stayed under 1.5moa at 100 with my handloads.
Amen. The big lever loop detracts from the classic lines of this lever gun. I have small to medium hands so maybe I would feel differently if I had grizzly size paws.
I bought mine with big loop especially because of baseball mit size hands. When you wear a 16 size ring 3 of my fingers fill the loop up. If you have small hands absolutely get the regular lever. I have 7 levers and I finally got the big loop and it fits better.
The one you "prefer" is still an oversized loop, so you do prefer an oversized loop. The reason for oversized loop is so you can operate it in cold weather with gloves on. In Alaska with heavy gloves or mittens you'd probably prefer the larger loop. November white tail hunt in Texas probably the smaller oversized loop would be nice. And for summertime action shooting events a padded stock size loop is likely a better choice. All have reasons and a place they fit well.
Bigger loop is for fall/winter in much colder places. During spring and summer, just wrap some paracord, it'll help alot with the slop. Thank God for paracord.
If your objective was to get responses, you accomplished that.great job actually, beautiful gun and you have a pretty good screen presence, awesome editing.look forward to more content...
That is certainly the conventional wisdom. But history doesn't seem to support it. As far as I can find the first example of a large loop lever gun was in the 1939 John Wayne movie stagecoach. Before that everyone may do with the standard loop on their lever gun.
Just depends on the application. When you're in cold weather, wearing snow gloves, the large lever is required. Or if you need to cycle the weapon with one hand.
I added a large loop to my Henry .357 because the stock one was too small for my hand. The Ranger loop you have is smaller than the large loop, but I’d call it a medium loop. Still larger than typical standard small loops, but not super sloppy. Good video.
Well I think when you make the purchase consider this before you buy. I am a big guy and very large hands. The large loop fits me perfectly. And I don’t even look at guns with the small lever. This is just my preference.
As a Canadian, I really appreciate the large loop. If you're out in the middle of butt fornication nowhere, in winter and it's -40°c out, you're going to have some BIG gloves on.
I think whether small medium or large loop it depends heavily on if you plan on needing no gloves/very light ones one, medium sized gloves, and for when it’s gloves PLUS mitten time in the high mountains for winter. For average use the large loop is in fact too large.
I do, those older models with the basic slotted shape, or worse the ones that contour inward to the shape of the pistol grip, beat the crap out of my fingers
Hunting season is in the cold so you want room for warm gloves. But nothing really matters on the range. You could remove a little more slop by converting it to semi auto 😉
Way too much slop, causes feeding problems. The only large loop I use is for deep winter hunting when I use heavy gloves. The large loop is a creation of Hollywood. For shooting the standard lever is best. Great demonstration. Merry Christmas and here's to bringing in the New Year with a bang!
Has been my #1 complaint with the newer Marlin rifles. I just really prefer the old style small lever. I am not a large person, and I have zero issues with gloves and a small lever. I'll just wait until they bring it back I guess!
Yes sir! And if you live in the Frozen North that is a great option. Down here it's never cold enough to wear gloves that won't fit in a standard lever.
Yep florida or deep south is great! For me being cheap and handy for the money I'd just heat that loop after notching out reconfigure weld and finish...especially if rifle was at a good price ....wouldn't be a deal breaker for sure....probably could reform cold.....😎
i couldn't agree more! I own both of the Miroku Browning 1892 .44 Mag, and 1896 .45-70 Govt lever action carbines. Both are based upon the models that John Browning designed for Winchester that were the best of the best. I shoot/hunt year round and have always worn gloves. My glove size is L/XL and I have plenty of room inside the stock levers. This video is the ONLY one that I have seen operated correctly keeping the trigger finger INSIDE the trigger-loop. Everyone else I have seen lately that apparently have never shot a lever action rifle before removes their trigger finger and point it away from the lever while cycling...this is NOT correct and seriously increases time between follow-up shots. I have not shot the new Ruger Marlin, but I am sure that it is an excellent rifle. I would definitely buy the 1895 Trapper and the first (2) mods would be replacing the oversize lever, and the rear peep to a buckhorn sight. The entire purpose of a short lever gun is speed! I see all these mods Adding extra weight, and optics that lift your cheek off the stock...when you learn to shoot a lever action rifle with buckhorn sights, and carry everywhere you go, it is an instinctual shooting rifle where everything just comes together naturally, and quickly. Glad for everyone re-discovering lever action rifles especially in two of my favorite cartridges - .44 Mag and .45-70 Govt. Well Done!
The traditional loop was originally designed to be able to recock and rechamber the rifle while riding in a saddle, one handed by spinning the lever . Hence " the saddle rifle"
Secret to large loops is don't think about pushing down like on a traditional lever. Force your hand straight forward and back (think pump action,) let the mechanical guidance take care of the rest. Works like a charm on my rossi large loop trapper. Feels faster than a regular loop, too!
I'll try that
Came to say this.👏👏👏
Right. I think Hickok actually pulls down from the top of the lever and does not use the back of his hand. He discussed that in a video with a large loop gun. It takes some training to change habits.
Indeed! Forward at aprx a 45° is smoother and faster than a traditional lever!
It's not faster. That don't even make any sense. The laws of physics do apply. No matter how you slide your hand it has to be at the bottom for down and top for up. You never see over size lever at 3 gun cowboy competitions and it's because they are much slower. They are not intended to be faster they are intended for massive gloves.
It's intended to be used with gloves or mittens during winter time.
Yep. That is the conventional explanation. But my goodness, that would be some mighty big gloves😉
N.wisc in Nov. Alaska in winter, etc. Thick wool under heavy leather gloves ar used. Not much sense in Alabama.
@carpe diem maybe not, but I've seen it in Minnesota
@@TargetSuite it get's pretty cold in some places.
@@TargetSuite it’s not super common these days but there are some mighty big gloves out there. My family had an old school pair of snowmobile mittens that were massive, think bomber jackets for your hands.
These levers were designed for Chuck Connors to do the fancy stunts he does on The Rifleman.
I've always been told the loops are big because they were meant for wearing thick gloves in cold weather hunting. I have the big loop, but I don't shoot it enough to bother me.
If they are that thick the trigger guard would still be an issue.
I seen on eBay a leather lace that goes on the the lever action rifle and they also have a leather sleeve that goes on the butt of wood stock to hold ammo pretty cool dress up kit for your lever action rifle
Take some Paracord and wrap it around the lever. That will solve the slop issue a bit and provide you with a survival tool.
Paracord or leather, don't be surprised if your lever, so wrapped, starts collecting moisture and then rust.
@@waynehajek6346 Good point. You would need to monitor the lever or not do it at all.
@@waynehajek6346 Just buy a replacement lever that is smaller.
@@philipbutler2488 Yes, I agree. I bought two of the medium loop levers from Ranger Point Precision and installed them on a Marlin 1895 45-70 and a Marlin 1895M 450 Marlin. They helped greatly to mitigate the recoil effects on my fingers when shooting these Thumpers.
@@waynehajek6346My grandpa left my father a model 1894 30-30. My dad said that lever was wrapped his whole childhood. I just recently redid it myself as it was starting to show its wear after over half a century of use. There was absolutely ZERO rust under the leather wrapping. In fact, the finish under the wrapping was flawless compared to the rest of the rifle which has a nice patina.
Chuck Conners NEVER had a problem with an oversized loop-lever & he was pretty awesome at reloading. 😊
Yes. And he always wore gloves when he shot😉
Wish Chuck had never fooled with that ROOTS. Should have been a 'Rifleman Returns' motion picture for him in the 1970s instead!!!
Pa!...
@willbill Mark, you truly are a Best Supporting Actor. 👌 (that's an OK, not any racist symbol 😉)
Try waiting gloves. You know like you did with the other leaver. And Paracird does great too. They are made for when you hunt in cold. With gloves or mittens on. You can always make the loop smaller but not bigger.
I am just glad I found out the cheap way when I upgraded my red Ryder to the big loop lever lol
That's exactly how I feel about big loop lever action, John Wayne popularized that style in his movie True Grit.
If no one else mentioned "The Rifleman," I will. It starred former NBA player Chuck Connors, and ran from 1958-63 and featured a Winchester 1892 with a large loop lever. A machine screw was attached to the lever of the stunt rifle to make it fire with each cocking. It was probably chambered in .25-20 to have it fire its 12-round capacity for maximum effect.
True Grit was released in 1969, meaning this TV show beat it out by a full decade for popularizing that large-loop lever. A friend received a toy copy for Xmas 1961. It was a flimsy piece of crap, but we had fun firing rolls of paper caps with it.
He used it way before that one
It also depends on hand size.
If you live in a cold area they are preferred as you can wear thick gloves to keep your hands from freezing and negates the slop
I agree, George. A slightly oversized lever is great for hun ting with gloves, but most of them are just too big.👍
Yes - that Ranger Point Precision lever is more open than an old, stock Marlin lever. Not by much, but that’s all you need IMHO.
Yep in the colder states thick gloves really make you appreciate the bigger hole.
Thank you for not breaking the stock from your shoulder when you’re shooting in repetition! That is my biggest pet peeve with a Lever!
You’re not right, you’re not wrong. It’s what works for the gun owner and they like and are comfortable with. It’s why we all have choices. Also, in the right hands, it’s not slop!
Love the look of a laminated stock! 👍
Love it! I always end up hunting in the cold and the Ranger medium lever works with thicker gloves.
A lever action 45-70 is at the top of my wish list this year 🤤
Sounds like you're making for a great new year. Good luck on your hunt!
Worth every penny. Got my SBL years ago. Just be ready for some recoil!
That plus some reloading equipment for the 45-70 cause shop-weee factory ammo can be pricey 😅
@@cody_rightnow6137 It's a great round for reloading too
I've had one for several years and I love it.
I’ve never had a large loop but I can see where that medium loop would work out pretty good for me with gloves or mittens. The guy with really large hands and big fat mittens would probably enjoy the big one.
My thought exactly 😉
I agree I like the standard lever myself. I think the only benefit of the bigger opening is if you're hunting in the winter time with gloves on but it also need a larger trigger opening too. Thank you 👍
George, like you I don't like the slop in the large loop levers. I've found the best way to use the large loop lever is NOT to bring your hand down like a standard size lever, but to push your hand forward so the front of the loop rotates around the front of your hand, then bring the loop up as you normally would. There is no slop if you do it that way; give it a try.
Thanks, Roy. You are the second person to recommend that. I will definitely give it a try as the Trapper will stay with the large lever
Definitely an improvement! Great BG music, George. :))
Many thanks!
Can’t wait to see more content on the Guide Gun. What a gorgeous rifle!
Yes the gun is absolutely gorgeous
Your right, the ones made by RPP are the perfect size, not to big, and a little bigger than the original, I’ve had one on my 94 cowboy for about 4 years and it works great
Usually decorate an oversized loop and used in the winter, some oldheads back in the day swapped between the two when they didnt have another spare rifle that wasn't a bolt or pistol. Gpa tried to teach us how to do it while doing maintenance but heaven forbid an old yehaw not drink and become a bad kid too lmao
I like the medium size better, but am hoping ruger makes some standard size for pistol grips in the future. Really hard to find. Also levers are not 100% drop in, some fitting may be required.
Love the little 1894 rectangle
I agree with you on the RPP levers. My big fingers kept getting hammered in the old, stock, levers on my 45/70 and 450. RPP medium oversize loops took the pain out of my range sessions.
I like oversized loops, I've never found they give me any issues, I can cycle either just as fast
Awesome! Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching!
I put paracord on my 1895 Ruger Marlin to fix that slop and it looks sharp
Thanks George. Happy New Year!
It gets cold here in deer season, cold enough that I sometimes forget wearing gloves and wear mittens. Standard loops aren’t great when wearing thick gloves or mittens. If I lived down south it probably wouldn’t be a thing for me, but up here where we burn our wood stoves 6 months out of the year, I like a large loop.
Yeah that was actually customized. Guys that were out on horseback and trap lines and freezing cold weather had big old thick mints and they still had to use their rifle. 😢😮
I agree. I like mine small and tight. I'll put one a bit bigger on in the winter to allow room for gloves when I'm hunting.
I reckon the benefit of a big loop is to fit a gloved han in more easily. I myself have big hands so, I appreciate it myself.
They serve a good purpose, and are AWESOME LOOKING
The Marlin large loop with a leather wrap is my preference; still fits below-freezing types of gloves.
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Guns like this look like so much fun to shoot.
Tey holding your pinky finger on the out side of the loop to pull it back works for me
That smaller lever is like the one I have on my Henry trapper. Hope you and your family have a wonderful CHRISTmas George.
Thanks Terry! Btw, I love your "all caps", because He first loved me!
Henry has the right idea of enlarged loops with the X rifles. The ranger point seems to be along the same lines
I may be in the minority but I love those laminated stocks Remington was putting on the marlins. Still really want one of the new Ruger made ones though
I like the larger Loop but it makes room for my gloves when I hunt during the winter so I prefer the larger Loop it makes it better to talk the gun with gloves on because my gloves will fit in the loop and I don't have to take them off so my hands don't get cold
I've never been a fan of the big loops, I get that they are for using gloves,but I've gotten by just fine with the normal loops.
That's the usual argument for big loops. But you would need some really big gloves to not fit in this new ranger point medium Loop lever.
@@TargetSuite Trek 20 miles in the northern bush for moose and you'll want some big ass gloves
the only reason to use them is for flip cocking
@@AmalekIsComing which is great, for all those John wick enthusiast's
@@thomasoneill5877 funny, I think of Arnold and his lever action shotgun in his terminator role when I think on the topic.
Im a big fan of the original small or normal size loop.
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Same one I have on my 30-30 I hated the small loop the RPP medium loop is perfect
Its very aesthetically pleasing ngl
The over size loop is for winter use with gloved hands. It is not a bug, it is a fetcher.
I believe the oversized Loop lever was made famous by John Wayne in the movie True Grit. Where he twirled the rifles to reload. About the only reason to have one unless you're using it in very cold weather, and are wearing heavy gloves.
I like the look of the big loop, but I can definitely see your point. It’s pretty obvious.
I own four JM stamped Marlin 336c in 35 Remington I bought that 3 were literally LNIB excellent condition with absolutely gorgeous walnut and deep rich blueing ond one that was in good condition
Bought all before the prices went crazy
Were my fist high powered CF LA rifles only owned bolt actions before that
Was hoping for anything under 2.5MOA at 100 and very pleasantly shocked and amazed when they all stayed under 1.5moa at 100 with my handloads.
Amen. The big lever loop detracts from the classic lines of this lever gun. I have small to medium hands so maybe I would feel differently if I had grizzly size paws.
I agree. I have a 1974 Marlin Micro Groove Hooded front site in 30 30 Winchester. Dandahermit.
That’s a slick looking bit of kit. Love it.
I bought mine with big loop especially because of baseball mit size hands. When you wear a 16 size ring 3 of my fingers fill the loop up. If you have small hands absolutely get the regular lever. I have 7 levers and I finally got the big loop and it fits better.
The one you "prefer" is still an oversized loop, so you do prefer an oversized loop.
The reason for oversized loop is so you can operate it in cold weather with gloves on. In Alaska with heavy gloves or mittens you'd probably prefer the larger loop. November white tail hunt in Texas probably the smaller oversized loop would be nice. And for summertime action shooting events a padded stock size loop is likely a better choice. All have reasons and a place they fit well.
Bigger loop is for fall/winter in much colder places. During spring and summer, just wrap some paracord, it'll help alot with the slop. Thank God for paracord.
If your objective was to get responses, you accomplished that.great job actually, beautiful gun and you have a pretty good screen presence, awesome editing.look forward to more content...
Beautiful rifle and I tend to like the smaller lever as well.
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Made for Gloves back in the Calvary.. Nice in the winter though on a deer hunt.
That is certainly the conventional wisdom. But history doesn't seem to support it. As far as I can find the first example of a large loop lever gun was in the 1939 John Wayne movie stagecoach. Before that everyone may do with the standard loop on their lever gun.
Just depends on the application. When you're in cold weather, wearing snow gloves, the large lever is required. Or if you need to cycle the weapon with one hand.
I added a large loop to my Henry .357 because the stock one was too small for my hand.
The Ranger loop you have is smaller than the large loop, but I’d call it a medium loop.
Still larger than typical standard small loops, but not super sloppy.
Good video.
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Well I think when you make the purchase consider this before you buy. I am a big guy and very large hands. The large loop fits me perfectly. And I don’t even look at guns with the small lever. This is just my preference.
That's the perfect answer. Because so much about firearm choice is based on personal preference. Nothing wrong with that.
As a Canadian, I really appreciate the large loop. If you're out in the middle of butt fornication nowhere, in winter and it's -40°c out, you're going to have some BIG gloves on.
I think whether small medium or large loop it depends heavily on if you plan on needing no gloves/very light ones one, medium sized gloves, and for when it’s gloves PLUS mitten time in the high mountains for winter. For average use the large loop is in fact too large.
Oversized loop levers are made for cold weather. They're designed to be able to be used with gloves.
I do, those older models with the basic slotted shape, or worse the ones that contour inward to the shape of the pistol grip, beat the crap out of my fingers
Well with gloves or mittens that changes the answer for my needs.
Thanks
I agree I have the 1894 in 44 mag I bought in the late 70s
Hunting season is in the cold so you want room for warm gloves. But nothing really matters on the range.
You could remove a little more slop by converting it to semi auto 😉
EXACTLY!!!! They should make the Lever the size of BRASS KNUCKLES holes & it would Even look better also
my exact take on the large loop , I like it tight
I wrapped mine in 550 cord, made the hole a little smaller and more comfortable.
Depends on where you are. If you were wearing big gloves in Alaska on a -20 deg(F) day, and a grizzly charged, you'd probably want a big loop.
Yep.There are a few folks that really need the big loop. But for most, it's just a style choice that doesn't work for me.
Totally see your point. I always thought those large hoops looked cumbersome.
Yeap I have a RPP medium loop on my Marlin 336W 30-30 and love it.
I like the over size loop,fits my big hand better
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It is for the spin like on the Rifleman.
Big loops are extremely situational, but almost necessary for a mares leg
They’re for leather gloves hands. Popular for ranchers for this reason.
I want to pick one of these up soon if I can ..just the sound is amazing 👏 😍 🙌
They are made for us that reside in the colder climates.
Way too much slop, causes feeding problems. The only large loop I use is for deep winter hunting when I use heavy gloves. The large loop is a creation of Hollywood. For shooting the standard lever is best.
Great demonstration. Merry Christmas and here's to bringing in the New Year with a bang!
Unless you're Chuck Connors... The Rifleman!
That's your preference, The large loop was developed for the shooter who wears gloves.
Great video and I do agree!👍
Thanks! 👍
Has been my #1 complaint with the newer Marlin rifles. I just really prefer the old style small lever. I am not a large person, and I have zero issues with gloves and a small lever. I'll just wait until they bring it back I guess!
Easy to switch out buy standard for warm weather...change over to the loopy loop when winter....
Yes sir! And if you live in the Frozen North that is a great option. Down here it's never cold enough to wear gloves that won't fit in a standard lever.
Yep florida or deep south is great! For me being cheap and handy for the money I'd just heat that loop after notching out reconfigure weld and finish...especially if rifle was at a good price ....wouldn't be a deal breaker for sure....probably could reform cold.....😎
RPP for the win! Good guys selling good stuff.
I don't like big loops either for the same reason. That's the first thing I replaced on my Rossi 92.
The moment he said "Hwhy" I knew he was bout to preach some real oldschool cowboy facts.
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Agree! Like 30rd mags they dont do well when shooting off bags either.
The bigger one is for spin cocking
. The rifleman show made this popular.
That looks like a good size loop I hate the big loop and standard is a pain especially if have gloves on
i couldn't agree more! I own both of the Miroku Browning 1892 .44 Mag, and 1896 .45-70 Govt lever action carbines. Both are based upon the models that John Browning designed for Winchester that were the best of the best. I shoot/hunt year round and have always worn gloves. My glove size is L/XL and I have plenty of room inside the stock levers. This video is the ONLY one that I have seen operated correctly keeping the trigger finger INSIDE the trigger-loop. Everyone else I have seen lately that apparently have never shot a lever action rifle before removes their trigger finger and point it away from the lever while cycling...this is NOT correct and seriously increases time between follow-up shots. I have not shot the new Ruger Marlin, but I am sure that it is an excellent rifle. I would definitely buy the 1895 Trapper and the first (2) mods would be replacing the oversize lever, and the rear peep to a buckhorn sight. The entire purpose of a short lever gun is speed! I see all these mods Adding extra weight, and optics that lift your cheek off the stock...when you learn to shoot a lever action rifle with buckhorn sights, and carry everywhere you go, it is an instinctual shooting rifle where everything just comes together naturally, and quickly. Glad for everyone re-discovering lever action rifles especially in two of my favorite cartridges - .44 Mag and .45-70 Govt. Well Done!
Spectacular. Just great fit and I like the finish.
Thanks for watching, and thanks for your comment!
..I just bought one from them.for my Marlin guide gun. An original with the 16 or 18 in ported barrel...
The traditional loop was originally designed to be able to recock and rechamber the rifle while riding in a saddle, one handed by spinning the lever . Hence " the saddle rifle"
Some of us got large hands designed to meet a need same principle as scissors handles
there has to be a snap-in insert to tighten up that opening and possibly it could hold an
extra round or chewing gum or a fire flint etc
Haha! You might be able engineer!