As always, great review, I heard this sub and it was the weight and somewhat muffled sound that actually pushed me towards the S-12 purchases. the 2318S goes deep but not to clear, and the S12 I found to be clearer bass with two. Once again, great job!!!👌
I have this sub and really sounds good lots of people give bad review because the sound or because is not loud or others about clips easy but after owned I can said sound good same like the high brands no I can get the max of my and no clip why I see is people trying this sub or others sub wrong first you need to understand gain structure your gonna have diferent sound if is outside , inside close to the wall the placement will affect not jus this sub any sub they expect to get the same sound like the top speaker but sub is not directional like tops is unidirectional that's why everyone gets diferent perception of the sound sub waves is not the same like mids or high frequency sound just enjoy what you have if you can afford the high brands go for it if not just keep going
For a lot of people this could be there first Large PA Subwoofer and expectations are sometimes off from reality. also understanding how to use and manager sound is a whole new learn cover. >>>> ( But let me make a video or something 💩💩💩💩 on the product because it never me.)
That’s it most don’t understand how to control their gain and give a clean signal I’ve heard cheap speakers that sound just as good as high priced ones a lot of high priced speakers use lighter woofers and drivers and the badge name this is why they $$$ most the time great point dude 🫡👍🏾
@@expertisland nice videos I'm gonna buy one more to have a one pair and I'm gonna buy one pair of the 12 sub. is small and sound nice 2 they are really nice sounding boxes and the construction is very solid I really liked thanks
I had the pleasure to buy one vari 2312 on sale right now to put against my prx812 and no to much difference prx just little clearer sound and output comparison just by ear I'm satisfied with the sound of the vari 2312 is hard to believe but I have Yamaha dxr8 jbl. srx812p and prx812 I know better components then vari but I always use drive rack to have the flates response maybe out of the box probably a better box sound cleaner but everybody have different ears and taste that's why is lot's of brands for everybody to choose
I have four of these puppies. Love them. Let’s hope they have longevity. I have had one summer running live sound so far with them and they are solid running. Even in the heat.
Hello @expertisland I'm new I watched your videos on these 2 speakers was wondering you comparisons between the two as well as if you would recommend something that is better and newer or if these older speakers are a better option gsp-l2200pk vs thump 15bst
Most pro audio does not get replaced every year or 18 months like phones, TVs, or laptops. A new model PA speaker will feature more options like Apps, Bluetooth, and even More Power. But this will also bring the Price Back Up. So always try to balance out what is new with what you Need. Hope this helps. As for the GSP-l2200pk (top-of-the-line Consumer PA) / thump 15bst entry-level PRO Audio PA
Ok ty for your reply. Definitely looking at the gsp-l2200pk now as far as something newer with more features and potentially more power what would you recommend
I buy one vari v2312 to put against my jbl prx812 and hard to believe but the vari sound nice output just by ear the 812 slightly difference not much and sound prx sound jus little cleaner both at clip point i have srx812p yami dxr 8 and prx 812 more then satisfied whit the vari and for the money i know the other ones have better components out of the box every brand have they're own sound and for me work just fine i always use drive rack to have the flates response most i do is live sound not dj everybody have different ears and taste lot of brands to choose
Cam you do the new Harbinger s18 subwoofers and one of the vari 3000 series speakers. Just saw them the other day in guitar center. Also I heard there is a new vari 4000 coming out. I saw the fcc paperwork for it.
@@PatsTechReview nvm i see now the new 3000 series, but the new 4000 series you mentioned has to be sub, because the 2318 is good but however it needs some improvement
I just purchased the new alto ts18s Output Power: 2500Wpeak@4 O Transducer: Low 18” (457 mm) woofer; 3” (76.2 mm) high-temperature voice coil Frequency Response: 29 Hz - 100 Hz (- 3 dB) Frequency Range: 27 Hz - 111 Hz (-10 dB) Maximum SPL: 137 dB (@ 1 m) $699 us it’s a great sound specially for that price gets loud great power looks good built quality good ✅
@@expertisland yes and there new tops come with a lot of features impressive I don’t own the tops I’m running Fbt promaxx 14a and Rcf hd35a and the subs keep up with these high end speakers I heard the ts408 loud clean punches hard
@@expertisland can we get a review on the Icoa 18 they have become very popular I had the Icoa 15a great speaker amazing build just really heavy and didn’t have the spl I was looking for
This Model has just been replaced by the VS18 at $900 We are getting one Today to test, this one in the video is a great deal it is the V2318 on Clearance Sale for only $550 I would buy 4 at that Price what a Great Deal.
That's always a good question Alto for Band, Harbinger for DJ. More a Coke vs Pepsi think. If the Harbinger is on sale for $200 Less then Alto Buy Harbinger.
@@expertisland cheers I have the alto ts312s and mackie 15A tops looking to see if the new alto subbs go thank you for your reply I've been watching your videos for a while now
Rec out is a fixed pre-amp output most likely -10dBV ( fixed means you control all the volume via the subwoofer and you will need an RCA Female to XLR male adapter or here is the link to amazon amzn.to/49Vi9qg
As always, great review, I heard this sub and it was the weight and somewhat muffled sound that actually pushed me towards the S-12 purchases. the 2318S goes deep but not to clear, and the S12 I found to be clearer bass with two. Once again, great job!!!👌
86Lb it's a job
Does not explain how to use the crossover
I have this sub and really sounds good lots of people give bad review because the sound or because is not loud or others about clips easy but after owned I can said sound good same like the high brands no I can get the max of my and no clip why I see is people trying this sub or others sub wrong first you need to understand gain structure your gonna have diferent sound if is outside , inside close to the wall the placement will affect not jus this sub any sub they expect to get the same sound like the top speaker but sub is not directional like tops is unidirectional that's why everyone gets diferent perception of the sound sub waves is not the same like mids or high frequency sound just enjoy what you have if you can afford the high brands go for it if not just keep going
For a lot of people this could be there first Large PA Subwoofer and expectations are sometimes off from reality. also understanding how to use and manager sound is a whole new learn cover. >>>> ( But let me make a video or something 💩💩💩💩 on the product because it never me.)
That’s it most don’t understand how to control their gain and give a clean signal I’ve heard cheap speakers that sound just as good as high priced ones a lot of high priced speakers use lighter woofers and drivers and the badge name this is why they $$$ most the time great point dude 🫡👍🏾
@@expertisland nice videos I'm gonna buy one more to have a one pair and I'm gonna buy one pair of the 12 sub. is small and sound nice 2 they are really nice sounding boxes and the construction is very solid I really liked thanks
use an external crossover and set it to 100 Hz and it’s gonna bump 10x even more
I had the pleasure to buy one vari 2312 on sale right now to put against my prx812 and no to much difference prx just little clearer sound and output comparison just by ear I'm satisfied with the sound of the vari 2312 is hard to believe but I have Yamaha dxr8 jbl. srx812p and prx812 I know better components then vari but I always use drive rack to have the flates response maybe out of the box probably a better box sound cleaner but everybody have different ears and taste that's why is lot's of brands for everybody to choose
I have four of these puppies. Love them. Let’s hope they have longevity. I have had one summer running live sound so far with them and they are solid running. Even in the heat.
Thanks for sharing 👍 real world 🌎 is the best 👌
That gain control is the difference between consumer line level and pro line level. If you're running pro gear, you should be at +4.
🌴always great to have the option😁
@@expertisland If you run it at the wrong signal you'll get noise - been there done that, unfortunately
Hello @expertisland
I'm new I watched your videos on these 2 speakers was wondering you comparisons between the two as well as if you would recommend something that is better and newer or if these older speakers are a better option gsp-l2200pk vs thump 15bst
Most pro audio does not get replaced every year or 18 months like phones, TVs, or laptops. A new model PA speaker will feature more options like Apps, Bluetooth, and even More Power. But this will also bring the Price Back Up. So always try to balance out what is new with what you Need. Hope this helps. As for the GSP-l2200pk (top-of-the-line Consumer PA) / thump 15bst entry-level PRO Audio PA
Ok ty for your reply. Definitely looking at the gsp-l2200pk now as far as something newer with more features and potentially more power what would you recommend
I have a harbinger Variv2215 that I am trying to hook up to Harbinger 12 in subwoofer. I need your help
I buy one vari v2312 to put against my jbl prx812 and hard to believe but the vari sound nice output just by ear the 812 slightly difference not much and sound prx sound jus little cleaner both at clip point i have srx812p yami dxr 8 and prx 812 more then satisfied whit the vari and for the money i know the other ones have better components out of the box every brand have they're own sound and for me work just fine i always use drive rack to have the flates response most i do is live sound not dj everybody have different ears and taste lot of brands to choose
Cam you do the new Harbinger s18 subwoofers and one of the vari 3000 series speakers. Just saw them the other day in guitar center. Also I heard there is a new vari 4000 coming out. I saw the fcc paperwork for it.
is it a sub?
@AudioGuero I saw the vs18 sub and the vari 3412 and 3415s are top speakers.
@@PatsTechReview could you send me this?
@@PatsTechReview nvm i see now the new 3000 series, but the new 4000 series you mentioned has to be sub, because the 2318 is good but however it needs some improvement
*I have the Paper work Specs/Manual -product Will Be Here hopefully in the Next 10 days I will Be Make A pre-lunch Live Video today*
I just purchased the new alto ts18s Output Power: 2500Wpeak@4 O
Transducer: Low 18” (457 mm) woofer; 3” (76.2 mm) high-temperature voice coil
Frequency Response: 29 Hz - 100 Hz (- 3 dB)
Frequency Range: 27 Hz - 111 Hz (-10 dB)
Maximum SPL: 137 dB (@ 1 m) $699 us it’s a great sound specially for that price gets loud great power looks good built quality good ✅
I'm waiting for the review
I had the talk with inMusic Canada, just wait for confirmation on the Products. I hope sooner rather than later.
Very nice Subwoofer, Spend a little more and get a little More. Alto is doing a great Job with their Subwoofers.
@@expertisland yes and there new tops come with a lot of features impressive I don’t own the tops I’m running Fbt promaxx 14a and Rcf hd35a and the subs keep up with these high end speakers I heard the ts408 loud clean punches hard
@@expertisland can we get a review on the Icoa 18 they have become very popular I had the Icoa 15a great speaker amazing build just really heavy and didn’t have the spl I was looking for
Great video. Any suggestions on a good portable backyard party speaker that could double as outdoor theater speaker.
Big sound without breaking the bank.... the gemini GLS-880 amzn.to/3RjT3eH great for both you can even connect 2 via Bluetooth.
Im kinda intrigue to this sub!! How much is this in canadian? I wanna try this!
Not stocked in Canada But can be ordered via Guitar Center or you can buy the New Alto TS18s or TS318s
Can you run just a sub with a top on bluetooth
yeah
Is this the newest model that lists for 900 at Guitar Center?
This Model has just been replaced by the VS18 at $900 We are getting one Today to test, this one in the video is a great deal it is the V2318 on Clearance Sale for only $550 I would buy 4 at that Price what a Great Deal.
Which one is better than the Alto TS318 series?... What do you think is the best 18 inch subwoofer?...
That's always a good question Alto for Band, Harbinger for DJ.
More a Coke vs Pepsi think. If the Harbinger is on sale for $200 Less then Alto Buy Harbinger.
thank you sir for the answer😊🎉
When will ALTO release its 18 inch subwoofer product again?... maybe the TS418?...
Hi just wondering if you can do a product review of the new ts15s subwoofer cheers interested in getting X2
Talked to inmusic Canada last week, just waiting for a reply.
@@expertisland cheers I have the alto ts312s and mackie 15A tops looking to see if the new alto subbs go thank you for your reply I've been watching your videos for a while now
I just got this sub and it only plays on -10 when i switch it to +4 it kills the sub. Any suggestions?
What are you connecting to it, and with what cables?
@@expertisland I'm using a harbinger m120 mixer. I have it coming out of the rec out to a 1/4" plug on the back of the sub.
Rec out is a fixed pre-amp output most likely -10dBV ( fixed means you control all the volume via the subwoofer and you will need an RCA Female to XLR male adapter or here is the link to amazon amzn.to/49Vi9qg
@@expertisland thank you