How to change hinge pins on a jeep grand cherokee
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I am not a certified mechanic this video is for your entertainment just to show how I do things - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Dude, put some oil/grease there :)
Very helpfull video, thanks!
I know this is an old post but there are options of a OEM pin or another USA made pin (on eBay).
The Dormans are known to fail after a year or two.
Good vid tho!
Literally was just looking on ebay for door pins and came across a set that looked super beefy I may end up ordering
Thanks for the video. Had no idea that there was a wiring harness to disconnect the door. I was dreading having to cut that and resplice all the wires. TYVM. Way easier than what I assumed.
That is accurate if you've replaced the door pin previously. The factory pin has a flat head on BOTH sides of the pin, which will require you to grind off one of them to replace with the pin show in the video. Also, my old bushings did not just fall out, I had to pound them out. Good video, but doesn't reflect an OEM pin replacement with a new one.
Thank you for that clarification
Thank you for that clarification greatly appreciated
Awesome - thank you for this video - I changed it for less than $16. Mechanic wanted over $120 just for labor. Thank you
I appreciate you for creating this video, how help me solve similar problem on my Cherokee 1996.
Thank you, very helpful.
Thanks for the video. This repair worked two years ago when I first had the problem but now I find that the hinges themselves are so misshaped that once one forces in the bushing of the top one, the pin will no longer go in because the shape of the bushing has changed. Forced to order from Jeep completely new hinges, totally some $148.61. Hopefully once they come in and I put the door back together, that will be the end of it for a while. Fingers crossed eternally driving a 20 year old truck.
Good video I need to replace a whole door. Your video cover how to remove and replace it Thanks
Very helpful video.
In reply to your remarks about the fracturing bushings, the Dorman pin and bushing kit, p/n 38422, is not the same design as the factory parts: OEM bushing each $6.50 each (Jeep p/n 55074591, four required per door) and Pin $13.06 each (Jeep p/n 55076192, two required per door). The factory bushing is a thin steel formed flange lined with what looks like bronze screen with the screen impregnated with some sort of dense black lubricant. I can see why a cast bushing would never stand up in this application - the wall thickness of the factory bushing is only about .0625 inches (1/16") as the thickness varied by several thousandths.
The factory parts on my wife's 1996 daily driver with 153K miles lasted 19 years
Thank you, replacing my door tomorrow this helps. My door sagged for so long the latch broke free of the door and now must replaced. Now I know to replace bushing when it starts to sag.
Thanks dude! You're Awesome! I know you saved me a ton of time!
Think you I needd to see this!!
THANKS FOR THE INFO, I HAVE A 95 AND NEED TO DO BOTH DOORS !!!!!
You are awesome - thanks so much!
One recommendation I have for anyone looking to do this repair: Get OEM pins and bushings from the dealership. Cost me $60 to do both hinges, American made, and the originals lasted 10-15 years...So will these.
thank you for the video!
Thanks, for the video, as I now have an idea on how to take the door off and why the door is sinking in the first place. Also, a common problem with JGC driver doors is the hinge system on the door itself: the frame surface cracks whereby the hinges are not held into place. For mine, I have it in place with various washers and bolts; without it the door doesn't even close because the fitting doesn't lock into place with the body. I used to have a sorta pulley system with rope to keep it shut.
Awesome video. Made what I have to do easy, I hope. But you should grease those bushings and pins with a heavy grease to prevent friction. Thanks a bunch man!
The hinge is bent. Mine was the same way. You have to straighten the ear out making sure the bushings sit flush with the other half of the hinge. The bushings will fall apart within a couple days when they’re bound up like that.
Thanks for posting Geo.. I had the nonstop repeating problem with one of the bushings. After watching this vid at 7:30.. It looks like one ear is bent.
One thing I did notice when I was fixing mine. If you look at the Pin and look at the Knurl groves. When you drive the pin in. The knurl contacts the brass bushing.(found this after the bushing cracked again. I could see the knurl sticking up) I decided to make a washer shim (aluminum siding material .0235 thickness for the pin ) to prevent the pin knurl from hitting the bushing. I think the pin and bushing part was a good but if it keeps happening. Time to look at it closer. It's one or the other :) Thanks guys
great help thanks.
Nice work! I have done the whole door once, not doing that again...too hard to match custom paint. Just scooped up 2 #38422's for my rig. Be doing that tonight whilst I wait for my $150 door latch from Lithia. Ahhh, Jeeps. Got to love them. thanks again, especially for the part number, don't want to have to kick the Internets ass tonight!
thanks man!
Nice work, wonder if the stock hinge pins and bushings would be worth buying
Thanks i will be doing my door this weekend
Hello, thanks for the detailed procedures. I have a '97 Jeep GC with same issue, hinges never replaced. My question is, how did you get the factory pins out? Do you have a video on that? Thanks for your help.
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Thanks for the video, I really appreciate you taking the time to make a quality post. My 1998 has the exact problem but it also has the metal that has the three bolts going through on the side of the door that has completely destroyed itself. I'm somehow going to have to either fabricate or weld some new metal to attach to the door. Have you had to do any work on the side of the door? Has it fatigued and caused it to crack because of the hinge pins?
Easy peazy, lemon squeezy... Thanks!
Can you tell me if the rear doors have the same kind of wire disconnects as the front doors?
If the holes that the bushings go into are egged out even slightly you will burn through bushings alot. If you have access to a welder, build up the hole. If not, fill with JB weld then put the bushing in, that will help. without support behind the cast bronze bushing, it will crack.
You gotta grease that baby up before you insert your pin! lol
I don't know if its been asked already, but my door is closing by itself it wont stay open, i haven't looked at it yet but from what i read its the roll pin, so what you did fix the same problem i have?
My local repair shop wants $190 to replace the top and bottom hinge bushings and pins. (1998 Grand Cherokee). I wanted to see if I could do this repair myself and took a look at both hinges. The pin that you removed in the video has a large head on both ends, so I don't see how I can remove it unless the bottom or top head screws off. There's a number "3457" stamped in both hinges and mine are painted white to match the body color. I think my bottom bushing on the bottom hinge is shot - I can lift the door up and feel the play in the bushing. I looked at your video again and see your top hinge pin has the head on both ends that I'm talking about. I'd sure like to replace the bottom hinge bushings without removing the door but can't figure out how.
As you mentioned, those are not the OEM pins. The OEM pins have to be cut and punched out. This is a huge pain in the ass. I started out with a chisel to try and get it freed up. Then I started trying to punch it out , the way u did w that body hammer.
IMPORTANT NOTICE TO WHOEVER IS TAKING OUT THE OEM PINS: You have to cut the bottom of the pin off and drive it out w a punch. I broke a cpl screwdrivers and sacrificed an old chisel to this little job. The chisel exploded and took out my window
Did you ever fix the wet floor on the Jeep. I had the same issue and there was a rust hole near the wheel well under the steering wheel. put sheet metal and rivets with some silicone and fixed the wet issue. If its not fixed everything on the floor starts to rust and it will become Flintstones car. Pull carpet off to make sure there are no holes on floor .
those bushing are supposed to be a lot harder to put in that may be the reason u have to keep changing them they are too lose =too much play
Mike... did they break again after you did this vid ?
After reading Geo Stanley post.. It looked like one ear was bent a little..had to play and stop the vid to see the angle of the ear. vid at 7:30. Thanks Tony
Just remembered, after installing the bushes.. I used a 3/8 to drill out the bushings because when you slide in the pin. It has a tendency to bind. I did this before sliding in the repaired hinge and pounding the pin in.
use a dremel grind off top of pin use a long punch tool punch out pins install new bushings and pins
Did the same didn't take the door off. Had 2 ratchet straps to the rafters in my garage. Did 1 at a time never took the door off.
Get the stainless steel ones pins and real brass bushings little pricey only have to do it once last very long time 2 pins 4 bushings $49 dollars
i need to replace my whole door....my hinge completely broke from the frame of the door. any suggestions?
Howdy! nice work, I wanted to ask you, is your jeep a 1993 by chance? I have a 1993 grand laredo with the same danging problem and I would rather not send it to a shop to have a whole new hinge welded on. I have heard that the 38422 as well as the 38423 pins and bushings (the 38423 has a C clip:?) will work on 1993's but I am trying to verify this 100%.
Did anyone notice that the hinge that holds the bronze bushings was bent?
I must of done something wrong I have the same replacement pin you have I did the same thing you did and now my door is worse won't even shut it lowered the door
Have you tried getting the parts at the dealership to see if they last longer?
biaj069 The dealer wants to replace the entire hinge, which requires welding.
Same sag on my 1997.
Those oem pins took me 2 hrs of blood sweat n tears to remove. But now the door is much better..
can I use the same parts for 1998 jeep cherokee sport ?
+Adriano jujuba should be able too, most XJ Zj parts are the same
I think i will turn up some bronze bushes up on the lathe ,,, I dont want to pull that door off every 12 weeks ,,
wouldn't hurt to lube em every once in a while. Mine went 20 years. Was looking for a trick on getting the OEM pins out but I guess I'll just cut em. :cheers:
GRIND THEM DOWN FLUSH THEM USE A GOOD PUNCH BUT BE VERY CAREFUL GRINDING DUE TO LACK OF ROOM AND GET THE QUALITY SS SET ON EBAY FOR 56.00 AND DO THE JOB ONCE, I JUST DID MINE TODAY
:cheers:
Still got the catera mile
I'm having problems unclipping the wires. Any suggestions?
I did too. It turns out there is a little catch lever that needs to be lifted up with a small screwdriver head in order to lift it over the stop. Very hard to see -- my local garage manager was able to figure it out for me.
Some ZJ years have a T20 torx screw head in the center of the wire bundle that needs to be unscrewed.
try lubricating your hinges every few months.
metal on metal don't work real good.
The floor of both passenger side and driver side of my 1998 JGC Laredo 4.0L are soaked. The passenger side I think is mainly a clogged water cowl in which I need to drill a hole in the tube that runs inside in order to unclog it, as it mainly gets wet with AC on. The driver side must be damaged weather stripping along with a door that is worse than yours, as it only gets wet when it rains. I am going to a parts yard to get a door and associated factory bushings and weather stripping.
From the bottom it looks like there's a line where the pin comes through the bushing out the bottom of the hinge. It is a cap that's pressed on. Cut it off or you will be screwing it up and wasting time tools and a boatload of aggrivation.
Wow. Looks like after 1990 they pulled their heads out of their asses and made it possible to remove the doors with better hardware and accessibility.
pin didn't fit right because the top part of the hinge was bent. the pin was following a crooked hole. probably why you're burning out bushings.
Your top door pin is the STOCK door pin, you have to cut the pin in half if you want to change the original pins. I used a Dremel with a cut off wheel TO CUT IT IN HALF. The original pins came with steel bushings not brass like after market they crack, very heavy door. Your bottom one you changed already or somebody did ? Those you show how to change in this vid. You should have greased the bushings at the least oil ? Cleaned up the wheels on the door & oiled or greased them ? NO WONDER IT KEEPS BREAKING, YOU'RE RUNNING HER DRY, NOBODY LIKES IT WHEN YOU INSERT ANYTHING DRY ? I bet it makes a HELL OF A NOISE LIKE DEANS IMPALA ON SUPERNATURAL. Never understood that ? Dean cared so much for his BABY 67 502 INCH BIG BLOCK IMPALA BUT HE COULD'NT ADD OIL OR GREASE THE DAMN DOOR HINGE PINS ? IT DROVE ME KRAZY WHEN HE GOT IN OR OUT OF HIS BABY BIG BLOCK IMPALA , SQUUUUUEEEEEEEKKKKKK, COME ON GREASE THE HINGE DEAN, DAMN.
Just so people know IF the pins and bushings haven't been replaced and are factory then they are peened over on the bottom and cant be just punched/chiseled out. The tips of the factory pins need to be ground down flush then punched out,, BE CAREFUL GRINDING
Just a tip, spend the EXTRA $$$$ and get the QUALITY SS pins and bushing for 56.00 from Ebay and do the job ONCE, I did mine Today, way too much work to keep doing over and over to save a few bucks initially
Can still use the factory pins after this is done?
+INSERTaccountHERE nope, $10-$20 for a set of new pins for 2 doors
do NOT use this Dorman POS! the bushings are CRAP! that's why they're only like $6. the TAI-MRHK12 are more expensive. but they WORK! you get what ya pay for.
What are the 2 spinning washers called? I'm missing one.
Thanks