How good is MAX ACCELERATION in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe?
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2023
- how important is the accel stat? acceleration determines how fast you speed up after getting hit or being stopped.
How to get Better at Mario Kart: • FULL Beginner Guide | ...
combo used:
toadette / biddybuggy / roller / cloud glider
all max acceleration characters/parts:
- baby rosalina, lemmy, baby mario, baby luigi, dry bones, mii (light), toadette, wendy, toadette, wendy, isabelle
- biddybuggy, mr scooty
- roller, azure roller
- cloud glider, paper glider, flower glider, parachute, peach parasol, parafoil, bowser kite, mktv parafoil
- highest acceleration
- nearly highest handling (turning) stat
- nearly slowest / lowest speed combo
- nearly lightest / lowest weight stat
- nearly highest mini turbo stat - เกม
In your opinion, what would it take to make acceleration the best stat in a Mario Kart game?
Good question. There are a few ways:
- Just make it better. for example, have the best accel combos get to max speed in 0.1 seconds.
- Change the item distribution so that speed items (like mushrooms) show up less often. More attacks and less speed items = more reliance on acceleration. I'd hate this tho obviously 😅
- have sections of tracks where you need to stop or slow down to drive it properly. For example, a section where you have to get in an elevator and wait for it to open the door before you can go again. As far as I know, Nintendo has never had this drastic of a track design.
@@Shortcat321
I guess Battle mode would favor acceleration over mini turbo or even speed. I'm sure they have a completely different meta that online vs racing is oblivious to.
@@Shortcat321 Would Neo Bowser City count? There was a turn that I think is nearly impossible to do without slowing down
@@pokemastersalgaming8271 Only on 200cc. Even the worst handling combo can drive neo bowser city on 150cc without braking. But even on 200cc with brake drifting, you don't need the accel stat. Your mini turbo gets you right back up to full speed anyway.
@@str4wb3rry13 I always use high acceleration in battles
Clearly the luck stat is the most important one in Mario Kart
Nah the combo stat is the best stat in the game
Born of yall are wrong the best stat is the stat stat
That's why Lemmy is bottom tier 😵
in my experience, there’s no such THING as luck
Wait, maybe in the next mario game that stat actually becomes a thing.
No, guys you see the best stat to optimize is your item luck stat. The worst stat on the other hand is the get hit stat, that one you have to make sure to minimize.
You really should make a leprechaun mii to max out the luck stat LOL
I got max get hit stat
@@The_Football_Nerd216 LOL same
OOOH good smart!! I never think of that!!@@NathanielIanLewis
We need someone to data mine these stats. We already know Lemmy has the highest get hit stat tho
I love how ShortCat is so calm and happy all the time, but then instantly starts seeing RED when someone of similar VR is playing in the same room!
It makes me C red
@@Shortcat321 you keep making puns that bad and I might get a little short (cat) tempered..
@@Shortcat321are you jperm
@@kieran9499sheesh all these bad puns make me want to kier myself
You think he’s calm when he’s raging about someone saying acceleration is better than mini boost 💀🫵
I think acceleration is the most important stat, because I've never seen anyone win a race without accelerating at least once 🤔
🤔🤔
@@Shortcat321🤔🤔🤔
@@TP39_vgmusic🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@mythicalrock2486🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@TheGoodDoge 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
at 4:42 he completely nailed the entire lap while explaining the pros and cons of acceleration, mad impressive
Thank you!! Still working on doing complex maneuvers when talking tho 😅
That's ez
@@TheNaturalGamer1🤓
No point in arguing with people like that. It's like talking to a wall. They're "always right". Also just drive what you want. Shortcat is a perfect example that skill can make almost any combo work anyways ❤
"It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it’s damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person" - Bill Murray
@@ultraofasolus7006I added quotes to a phrase. Boom
@@pirilon78 I added nothing to a conversation. Boom
@@Metrion77 11:53
@@pirilon78 Exactly.
'Weight is THE single most important stat as it determines the intensity at which you get displaced from a wayward tailgater or an ill-willed opponent." Boom
“Invincibility is THE single most important stat as it determines the time period of which you can not be harmed by malicious reptile encasings after previous fisticuffs.” boom
"Water speed is THE SINGLE most important stat as it determines how fast you go in underwater sections." Boom.
“Luck, determines how the other players do and what item is recovered from the various item boxes scattered around the tracks “ boom
why then why are all the light weight combos better than heavy
"why then why are all the light weight combos better than heavy" BOOM
Max acceleration is brutal. If you can keep 10 coins you're golden but the instant you drop down you're consistently in the chaos.
With lower acceleration builds you spend more time at the back meaning you're not getting hit by almost every single attack.
Acceleration = consistency. If you're doing good you'll keep doing good and if you start doing bad, it will be nothing but bad.
Acceleration does help make things consistent. Max speed gives you some high highs and low lows!
Well that's just incorrect. I slaughter online with max acceleration
@@pnut3844able That's the point of consistency. If you're good, you win more often.
@@pnut3844able oh wow then where are you in the pro scene then? Not good enough I guess. Expected from someone who cites an article that ranks traction higher than speed LOL how about you post gameplay videos
@@pnut3844able I hold the world record on bowsers big bean burrito, and I can say for a fact mini-turbo is the most important stat. 😎
About that acceleration argument… that guy could potentially be lying about being from the N64 days, calling people ignorant while also saying ‘that’s your opinion’, they probably just read an article in the corner of Google that was published just for clicks that said ‘aCcElErAtIoN iS tHe MoSt ImPoRtAnT sTaT’ and left it and believed it.
If they won with high acceleration, they probably don’t realize that High accel usually comes with High Mini-Turbo as well, and we all know mini-turbo is probably the most important stat
12:04
I recognize the layout of the article. It's from TheGamer. As someone who used to write list articles for TheGamer, I can vouche for the fact that their list articles are an absolute clustertruck of bs. Sure, you’ll find plenty of good ones here and there, but in general they don’t really care that much about the quality or accuracy of their lists, and are far more concerned with getting clicks and forcing their writers to work at a breakneck pace to produce as many articles for them as possible within a small amount of time.
the green shell dodge at 18:18 was so clean. he moved out the way since the daisy was about to chain items
Wow, I didn't even realize I was doing that! But yeah I've gotten much better over time with dodging people's chain items
"If I get hit it shouldn't be that bad"
**Immediately gets hit like 5 times and ends up in 11th**
Hey that’s my build!
I definitely agree about the pros and cons of acceleration. It was a similar in 7 as well with acceleration being good but not necessarily the end-all-be-all stat to focus on.
Mini turbo is still one of the more important stats and that’s why you see many builds getting the best mini-turbo while also not sacrificing as much on the other stats.
Good video and I’m looking forward to the no acceleration video!
If nothing else, the Toadette combo is Cute.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing! Toadette is the cutest!!
In ds acceleration was also very important together with speed, because acceleration decided how long your mini turbo would last while speed decided how much of a boost you got, so you wanted both to maximize miniturbo. Its why rob and luigi had the best vehicles
I’ve been going through a lot of anxiety lately and these videos have helped me stay calm. I love your chill demeanor compared to a lot of other MK8 TH-camrs. It also got me back into Mario Kart 8 and I have over 10,000 VR now!
I hope the next Mario Kart game has more customization, such as painting your kart or putting stickers on it. It’d also be cool if there were ways to change the stats of a kart without adding a way to make something OP, so I can play my favorite combination without having bad stats
In Mario kart DS you could draw pixel art to put on the front of your vehicle! I loved that
I hope it has no blue shells
25:17 “Alright, kid. This means war!”
*cut to him in the Koopa clown*
What I'd like to see in the next game is for miniturbo building to be attached to handling and mini turbo boost length to be attached to traction. This would make miniturbo less directly inherited from the two primary stats AND create a give and take between the heavy and light options.
It would still need some balancing to create a game where both options were viable at low and high skill, but I think it would be a good step in that direction.
I want interesting combos, but it's always hard to balance variety while still having everything feel different.
I would love to have some really funky parts that are bad but funny, just to make things different without making them overcentralizing. A high speed and accel part could have basically no other stats so it would slide around, get bumped, and can't charge mini turbos. But at least it's funny!
I love how you’re explaining what you are doing in the race for new players/beginners
11:21 Dang, he really thought he got you there. Totally roasted.
this is the combo that got the full lap win 💯
You dare question the mighty authority of pnut3844able? Who do you think you are? He has played COUNTLESS hours of this game AND has played mario kart since the SNES. Just listen to his wisdom scrub
Uh, I hope this is sarcasm…
@@Lightning_XD The fact that you would even question this is absolutely ridiculous. Do you even know who pnut3844able is?? He is a player who has played COUNTLESS hours of mario kart ever since the SNES. He is THE authority on mario kart and the fact that losers on the internet would question him is truly pathetic
@Lightning_XD how would it not be you dumb
@@ItsJCrewThis sounds like your worshipping him, and also, it's not like we're all on their level- and if we've never played Mario Kart before, the terms can be confusing for new players. So no, they're not losers, they're probably just confused.
@@Lightning_XDI wish-
Man you and Smii7y have completely reignited my love for Mario kart (haven’t played in 6 years cuz studying), thanks and much love❤
On the topic of better stat diversity, I wish we had more heavy vehicles with good mini-turbo/acceleration. I’ve fallen in love with the Boo Pipes in MKDD and I wish there could be another vehicle like it in a newer game.
Shortcat is the type of person to just casually perform things that others struggle with without mentioning it
@@Instanence bro why do you care so much your on like 3 other videos talking bout this lil bro 😭
really love your videos!! fun, cute, and really taught me some techniques to win.
love how you react everything in the race!!!
love your videos man, I love the information you tell us about mario kart 8 deluxe and on top of that you have amazing commentary
Hey shortcat, I realise I'm one voice in a sea of many, but I wanna say that I always love your videos. Seeing that little notification of your uploads always brings a little bit of joy into my day and for that I'm super appreciative!
Thank you so much 😊😊
i love this channel so much, is so entretaining and specially Shortcat´s way to comment and explain. he is really good at it. The second thing i think when thinking of ShortCat is that, the first one is well...
"anything remotly bad happens"
Shortcat: its bagging time >:)
And sometimes there doesnt even need to be anything bad lol XD. Keep it up Shortcat you are really good at this :)
PD: Boom
14:23-16:29 this entire filibuster hits the nail on the head so hard. ds and wii were really good about this and 7 kinda threw it away to try and make the game more balanced despite all the customization, and while i like having a balanced game, having that additional room for unique ways to play is really nice. as it stands, the only significant divergence from the norm in 8dx is inside drifting bikes, and when you compare that to the sheer variety in ds and wii *beyond* "fast but slow to recover with bad handling" vs "slow but tight handling and quick to recover", it's a little disappointing. speaking as someone who enjoys 8dx and wii about equally
Yeah this game is the most balanced ever, but I don't think balance really dictates with how beloved a game is. Mk8dx wouldn't be any worse if we nerfed the badwagon car really hard, because nobody uses that anyway. If we turned it into a drastically different vehicle that still sucks, then I think that adds to the game without changing the meta.
regarding the idea of the next mario kart game having more diverse stats, there's one build i like to use in mk8dx that feels super unique compared to just about any other combo i've tried:
Tanooki Mario
Gold Kart
Slick/Slim/Leaf/Rollers
Peach Parasol
the idea is that it maximises miniturbo while minimising traction. there are very few parts that have high miniturbo and low traction, and i've listed them all here (not including reskins, of course). it's just super fun to take corners with this thing, and tracks like Mario Circuit 3 and Neo Bowser City become an absolute joy to play. i think my favourite wheels to use with it are the leaf tyres, but it really just depends on how much miniturbo you want to give up for -traction.
I have actually been really liking adult Rosalina, Teddy Buggy, GLA tires and the Paper Glider. I like the usual meta Yoshi combo, but using GLA tires and a heavier character feels so much better to me.
I think the stats of that are really similar to waluigi wiggler, just with 1 more speed iirc. Personally I prefer a bit more mini turbo but it's a great combo! Insane invincibility stat as well
It would be cool if in a future Mario Kart game, they had a similar system to MultiVersus where you could equip different loadouts to your kart, to boost stats etc. Im not a MK expert so I have no idea how that would balance out, or if it would make the game too complex, but hearing you talking about more fleshed-out stats made me think about it.
Mark Twain had the right of it 150 years ago: “never argue with an idiot, they’ll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience”. Never argue with a living dunning-kruger graph if you value your time and sanity lol.
i really enjoyed the more talking centered video, very pleasant to listen to
I love the progression from showing off the acceleration to fruntrunning with a little acceleration use to taking back the VR crown from some random Japanese player.
Perfect.
whenever a shortcat video comes out im super super excited :D
I love shortcat reading the argument in comments! Please do this every time
nintendo was like: "so you have max acceleration right". proceeds to hit you with 675 items in one race lmao.
I definitly agree with what you said about stat variety, though they would need to make all the stats more equivalent for it to work.
I would also like if different stats encouraged different strategies. For exemple I wished high-speed high-weight stat would encourage you to bump more into people to basically knock them off the track, currently weight is only a defensive stat but it's still bad to run into people with high weight. It would also be cool if they made a set of kart without particularly good stats but with one gimmick, like one that allow you to get more of some item, a very bad kart but that almost doesn't get slowed down by off-road, a kart that has special flying/underwater properties ...
Keep up the great work shortcat❤
This video was by far my favorite of his. He really outdid himself ❤
Haven't watched thia channel and its insane how this chanel is growing
why is this combo criminally cute
A lot of videos make me laugh, but the argument makes it by far one of THE funniest videos I've seen.🤣
It was an honor to race with you last night for a few hours as you almost hit 20k. I had a ton of fun! Hopefully you can get to 30k quickly.
"It shouldn't be too bad" famous last words
Nice videos! Been learning quite a bit from them.
To your point about stat diversity, they could also play around with certain stats affecting item interactions. For example, heavier weight = larger items; better handling = longer item duration; more traction = shorter 'stunned' animations. (Or something along these lines.)
Congratulations on winning after waiting one lap! This is totally the right video!
You're probably the only person I've watched who makes vine booms really funny
Really fun to watch keep uploading! 😊
i have 2 ideas:
-do a blue youself, where you bring a blue shell to 1st and hit yourself. it is required to hit directly you, not from the range
-do a mario kart randomicer, it you will get a random character, car, wheels and glider. when you dont get 1st, that character dies, when you get first, you can receive a character. when you get a dead character as character, the video is over
You just made me think of something. Is it possible to throw a blue shell while NOT in first place, then get back up to first place and get hit by that same blue shell?
@@hfido_You just made my mind explode LOL
@@NathanielIanLewis yeah but that would kinda be a new edition of blue yourself kinda
@@hfido_ pff maybe he first needs to complete the normal blue yourself 😂😂 im scared what kind of challenge shortcat will do in 2 years. Can i win by going backwards? :o 😂
another interesting stat that I think would be interesting to see brought back is the item luck stat from mario kart DS, this was a very controversial stat but i think it would be cool, like lets say you have high speed high acceleration/mini turbo, handling but your item luck would be absolute garbage, or maybe your item luck stat could influence what items you are even able to get at a given position like maybe if you have a high item luck stat you may get mushrooms in first place or less of a chance to get coins
DAMNNN I LOVE YOUR VIDS
LIKE FR
love your videos!😊
My fav Channel rn 👀
Greetings from Germany 🤝
love your content! 😍
Nothing makes me more happy than seeing Shortcat upload.
Love your content! i was wondering if you could do a video about brake drifting, im super struggling with it and by watching your videos I see you doing it really well. Thanks for the great content
I talked a bit about it in the 200cc section of my beginner guide. Tap B instead of holding it, unless you need a quick and big decrease in speed. Besides that, I think just practicing it will do more than any guide since it's really just a matter of "how much do you want to slow down?" And tap B accordingly
thanks i was totally holding B everytime, its a lot better now lol!@@Shortcat321
Hi! Yet another awesome video! I haven't finished it yet, but I'm already sure!
Are you ever gonna do another "Shortcat Vs." format type video? As you said, you never practiced Vancouver Velocity, you could make a video on that!
I forgot about that honestly, I definitely could have done Vancouver but I already practiced it now. I still have tracks I am bad at like piranha plant slide and also I might do more for wave 6. I'll keep it in mind!
i feel like the best argument for accel being whatever is one you kind of said but didn’t; being that having a high acceleration is nice but you don’t want to have to use it as using it would mean being hit by items
So it seems the acceleration stat decreases your hidden luck stat 😅. Nice videos btw, you’re so chill. I usually don’t watch much Mario Kart and I’m a casual player. But I’m enjoying your stuff. Keep it up my man!
Is always a good day when shortcat uploads.
My personal favourite is keeping all the stats roughly even. I played DK on pipeframe before the dlc, but I don’t know right now. In 200cc it’s just enough to make the corners, so it’s mainly a fun thing. I’d definitely like to see how something like this stacks up though
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS PLS UPLOAD MANY MORE
I watched all your videos and I really enjoyed it :) I would love to see a video about soft drifting from you I have difficulties to learn this technique properly. Sorry for my Bad english
Its a gud day when shortcat posts
I love this kart combination, the handling is great too! There are two tracks that I find hard to deal in 200cc Cloudtop cruise and Rainbow road (mk8), but epic in Ice Ice outpost :D
15:05 this is so true, when i first looked into the hidden stats this was ny first thought. Everything is so locked in, despite all the "customization" you can't really customize at all
I'd love seeing some time trials from you!
I completely agree. I wish there were more stat variety.
Shortcut threw a whole race to bring up a TH-cam argument
True Legend
can you do more of the time trial practice vids? I really enjoyed the one you made. Explaining the tech helped me learn it myself.
Best way to relax after classes
Yes! You beat C!! I was actually getting a little too loud at the end and my parents came into my room to yell at me...
It would be cool to see a video/videos comparing the smallest hit box vs the largest hit box.
Largest hit box would technically be the highest "get hit" stat no?
Yes it would, but with a caveat. If I was playing the largest combo, it would have a high speed stat and I'd bag more, therefore getting hit less. And the small combo would try to frontrun and sometimes be too slow, therefore ending up in a middle spot where the attack items are.
The worst combo (Lemmy steel driver and metal tires) has no chance frontrunning and no chance bagging, so I always find myself in the middle of the pack. Maybe that's why it has the get hit stat 😅
@@Shortcat321 you're right how dare I take the get hit stat crown from Lemmy? That's all he has.
"Get Hit is the single most important stat as it determines the rate at which you get hit from a wayward turtle shell or an ill-placed banana peel." Boom
shortcats gameplay is so smooth i love it really
Such a nice vid
Thanks for giving some love my girl! Toadette + Pipe Frame/Rollers + Peach Umbrella is my jam lol. Driving with that combo feels like balls to the walls on a razor's edge 😅
This is my favorite loadout. I dont play online but ive gotten first in almost every race in singleplayer with this and i miss having max acceleration when i try other parts for fun
I tend to run a more mixed setup, but I definitely favor acceleration over top speed. Having a blend feels better than going all in on one or the other.
10:00 I was watching that video like an hour ago or something and read the conversation
Also you pinned the comment lmao, you're a legend
What Shortcat has taught me:
Best stat: Luck and Cute
Worst stat: Get hit stat (Lemmy only)
the comment war section was amazing lol, maybe having short funny story sections in some future videos would be a cool addition :P
Babe wake up, shortcat posted!
I don’t even play Mario Kart but I just love your personality
You need to do a video where you play with an eye tracker so we can see what,where and when you're looking on the screen!! Great vid btw
best mario kart youtuber
That mid-vid drama was very funny
NEW SHORTCAT VID DROPPED LETS GO
My main combo has high acceleration and that is one reason I really like it. There jave been times where I would have lost the race because of getting hit by an iten but because i had the acceleration I was able to get the first. Also I am able to quickly start drifts or do tricks after getting hit which I really like. I feel like acceleration is helpful but isnt necessary
It's a very feelable stat, like mini turbo. Speed isn't so apparent, so you don't really sacrifice any fun by choosing low speed. I really like accel and mini turbo because of that!
@@Shortcat321 so true
Talked about in the 13 or 14 minute section. The R.O.B. Kart is a huge example of this, and is one of the best Karts in the game besides Dry Bomber and Egg-1, the Mini Turbo Boost I think is 3rd best in the game but the Speed Stat is much better than those other two Karts, I too wish it was like what you were explaining, but still dependent on the weight class and character, but giving some heavier weight classes better Mini Turbos with some vehicles, and same with light weights and mid weights, to further increase the diversity of what is being used in the next Mario Kart game and it's meta.
I think the issue is that acceleration is pretty much always tied to mini turbo. I would really like it if they changed a combo to have high speed and MT, but no acceleration and handling, I'd like to see how it fares both in 150 and 200
The pnut(brain) part of the video got me wondering, how long do you have in the game? I know it's easily checked and given your skill level I would assume you probably have a lot
In Mario Kart Wii, Spear had decent acceleration and the best speed. If a track had no turns, spear would be great, and acceleration is important because on straight aways you have to wheelie a few times. If you dropped your wheelie (didn’t chain it because that’s like a 2 frame window) then Spear goes a LOT faster than Flame Runner
You're right I'm gobsmacked!
This was entertaining omg
seeing a raceway made out of my city (one that isn't all that popular) ie. Vancouver is so interesting. Like I see places I've literally visited here on the track like the suspension bridge. downtown Vancooter is definitely interesting
I GET IT YOU LIKED YOUR OWN COMMENT
Get this comment pinned lmao
How dare u
I liked my
what?! Im talking about my food!
It's called self love 🥰
Ok 5 year old kid😊
13:37 a good time to turn off smart steering (or other settings) is while in a mini-turbo or shroom boost because you cant slow down
You can slow down a little bit in a mini turbo (as seen in my 2nd Hyrule circuit race on lap 1), but yeah you can't slow down in a mushroom boost.
I usually try to turn it off during a mushroom boost, glider, bullet, or if I get hit. But airtime and mini turbos are 2nd best.
Can’t wait to see Pnut’s response