2020 Subaru Legacy Touring XT - POV Review
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- MSRP: From $35,895
Horsepower: 260 hp
MPG: 24 city / 32 highway
Curb weight: 3,790 lbs
Torque: 277 lb-ft
Engine: 2.4 L 4-cylinder
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Topher is a real driver, he doesn’t overly complain, he drives and enjoy how the car is setup
Bash the CVT all you want, but it's the smartest transmission on the market. They have improved massively since Audi's Multitronic CVT that was rubbish. Now they do simulate gears, it's the most efficient in terms of fuel because it keeps the engine in the perfect rev range, that helps the boxer because it's not the most efficient engine, it's smooth and buttery, fairly reliable, especially since Toyota has 17% of Subaru and Toyota's CVT is bulletproof. It's not sporty like ZF's 8HP or Porsche PDK that shifts in a blink, but it's the best for E Class size sedan that's good for cruising, not for raping around a track. It's a lot of car for that money, way better value for money than german cars, awesome for a family with kids.
Honestly surprised that this is a Subaru. How much they’ve changed in the last 4-5 years!
They moved into the affordable luxury market
@@daheat2403 they need better styling to be a luxury brand. Stupid bland on the outside and the brown is kind of ugly
FrankPeregrine They have not. Mazda has. Subaru isn’t there just yet.
They suck. I'd rather get an old Subaru than a new one. Their infotainment is trash
Yeah, no more affordable AVERAGE JOE cars anymore.
omg my anxiety from watching how slow the screen was, I swear an iPhone 5 with a dead battery probably more responsive
If Subaru put a DCT or ZF trans in their cars , I would be in line to get one.
That would be AMAZING
Unfortunately that wont happen.
I understand the use of CVT for fuel efficiency, but I can't understand why there's CVT on the WRX or turbo Legacy
@@persiashahdi5215 those are for people that dont want to or dont know how to drive stick
@@persiashahdi5215 should be a 6 speed like mazda is doing
“Boxster engine.” Scotty has left the chat.
@sal zerilli make that 2nd best...after BMW's 2-cylinder boxer motorcycle engine. They've been making it since 1921 so they've had a lot of time to get it right.
So glad they updated the screen to be quicker. I have a 2022 Outback XT and its much faster than shown here so I'm happy they are updating it.
Subaru: don't worry the interior is what you will be seeing most of the time as the driver
Daniel Lanzotti hei è così brutta?
They used to not give a shit about interior lol my 2013 legacy interior is so dated
Jason 7 yrs old. Time to change-over
@@gigieinaudi24 I know, I've been looking at the 2015-2017 Outback 3.6r
Jason well done. Not a sports engine but it’s okay. Fuel economy no for sure.
I'm a Subaru owner, but I strongly believe most Subarus like the Legacy need an exterior refresh. They look very dated, very early 2000s styling. They don't need extreme sharp lines like some of the competition like an Accord or Camry, but this looks like it hasn't undergone a significant design change in over a decade. No one is buying a Legacy because it's catching their eye.
I don't see how it looks dated. It doesn't look super sporty or sharp but it certainly doesn't look early 2000s at ALL. I'm hard pressed to find any early or even late 2000s car that looks like the latest gen Legacy.
Staying true to it's name in that case.
Maybe I'm partial to conservative styling, but I think the Legacy looks exponentially better than the current Accord.
That is one pretty dash. God bless
I agree, it looks pretty good, but it does tend to lag and is extremely buggy sometimes.
Right all you need to do though is have a huge screen
I will get a sedan car when im 16 only got 5 more years
@@davidespinoza4808 what most people tend to get.. If you ever get one from the lot try nissan its the best car to drive tbh
Love the XT, plus the brown material looks gorgeous.
The '19 was kind of the sweet spot for me. The tech is nice but not overwhelming. The styling and performance is very desirable for the price point. The CVT is...well, it's a transmission. The average person (like me) who cares that it gets you places is not going to mind. Not sure how I feel about the touchscreen eating up the dash on the '20, but it's at least not bad looking. If you threw a Lexus badge on the thing, you probably wouldn't blink an eye at another $10-20k being added on to the price tag.
That interior is beautiful! Good job Subaru 👍
As a 2.5GT owner, I would totally get the new LXT if Subaru made this with a 5/6 speed manual or even a DCT
Dct are not the best transmission either. Lots of them with problems too, and some of them jerkies. Saying this, big chances that Subaru couldn't nail it, plus are not the most fuel efficient. It would not be a good move for the company.
If they tossed in an 8 speed auto I’d be super interested but the cvt kills it for me.
I don't understand how manufacturers don't get that CVT's kill their car sales. People who know nothing about cars only care if it's auto or manual, everyone else sees a CVT and runs. Of course there are exceptions, Toyota makes almost bulletproof CVT's so people put up with them, not the case with JATCO.
This is Literally the only big issue with new Subarus.
Amem brother! The CVT completely ruined the car :|
same, my dad drives a legacy and everything is really nice except the cvt...
@@squirrelsodomizer2003 Jatco doesn't make Subaru's CVT's. Subaru designs and manufacturers all of its CTVs internally. Jatco has only made Subaru's remaining standard automatics, which now, are pretty much non-existent as Subaru's autos are all CVTs.
my friend has a 2015 legacy, this one obviously is newer and has its upgrades but in general these cars are still great.
Wish they had tactile buttons and knobs for the HVAC controls.
Definitely like the interior; however, the exterior needs help tremendously.....guess you can’t have it all 😕
Agreed. A bit dull and hodgepodge, it’s like I can’t even put my finger on exactly why they look this way 😄
They need some designers from Toyota, Honda or Mazda even Hyundai or Genesis.
The exterior looks better than the older models though
This car desperately needs DCT and more modern styling
DCTs are worse than a CVT
Subaru is a relatively small company with very few models. Almost all leverage the same architecture. They sell all that they manufacture. CVTs ensure they can meet their global fuel economy standards with the same engine / transmission combinations. All these fore-mentioned items mean they are not going to change what is not broken from their perspective $$$$$.
Anthony C Brown pretty sure They could use Toyota’s Help since they share some stuff together....
@@AliSalahat its not that easy. Plus the Lineartronic CVT is actually pretty good.
Ali Salahat They already do. The Outback portrait screen looks very similar to the Prius Primes info screen. Probably use the same supplier.
I don't even really care about these cars, I just come for your calming voice.
Legacy GT used to have a real full time AWD and a 5 speed auto. None of this CVT + part time AWD just to save a few mpgs. JDM model also has an interesting CVT + VTD combo.
Looks beautiful inside and outside
I don't know why so many people complain about the exterior of this car. Personally I think it's a lot better than that one car... you know that one car that has different badges like Nissan, Kia, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai,... Those "different" cars that all look alike. I like clean lines and a more conservative look, I think it looks far superior to, "that one car".
I got a 2007 Legacy 3.0R.b, kinda wish that they did the same deal with the new generation. Flat 6, 6 speed manual and Bilstein suspension.
The US never got the 3.0 Spec B, Only The 2.5GT Ones, and they were very limited and rare.
The new voiceover in the beginning is awesome!
To everyone who says this car's exterior needs changing because its ugly or outdated
You need to search yourself mate..
Wow, Toyota, Honda, Nissan, Mazda, Hyundai are blowing Subaru out of the water in the design / aesthetics arena.
Your voice reminds me of Ben from Parks and Rec. Love your filming style, keep up the great work! 👍
Cvt. That says enough. Stay away from all cvt's. Auto start and stop too. Doomed to fail.
Never had a single issue with my CVT, 143,000 miles strong.
You know nothing about Lineartronic, man.
the legacy soon will have a competition coming up this spring.
the camry XSE with AWD. hope you test drive it.
Coming in a couple weeks!
Such lag on the infotainment system in 2020 is unacceptable.
Those tires were crying for help on that on ramp. 😅 You were driving it like it was your BRZ. Sounds a bit clunky over those expansion joints.
He had those tires screaming 😂
Here we go with the next load of stupidity, vertical screens. It’s like these automakers have no UX people on staff. They love it just because it’s the most like a center stack...just slap a screen there. Vertical screens are good for hand held devices so the bottom half of the screen is right underneath your fingers and can be used for input while the top half is for display. For a center stack where input requires taking your eyes off the road and looking down, it’s obviously not the right application. Do they give it any thought? Nope. It looks cool so let’s do it!
Pink mirrors! Love that song, you got me on to that when you played it in the RAV4 hybrid. It's my go to commute song now! Love your reviews, this is probably my favourite car channel. I'd be curious to know if you like the Legacy or the Camry better.
It’s my first time to hear the music, could you tell me what’s the title of it? Thanks!
I kinda like the start up chime. Better than the boring dings you get in some cars.
I’m sorry but the exterior is sooo outdated they really need to change it but, the interior is very beautiful and luxurious.
I sat in this car...the seats are very comfortable!!!
Holy cow. 2:27 immediate turn off and reason why I wouldn't buy this car. LAG is fixable. How it passed quality control I have no idea.
The legacy interior looks like the outback and Tesla model S with the infotainment touch screen
Good god Subaru how much effort does it take to make an exterior color that isn’t horrendous? Just offer one, ONE color that isn’t as bland as dry toast. All that thought to the new interior and not one appealing color added for the paint job.
Why can't the car just be normal. I loved my 96 Legacy RS, had tons of space, was agile, amazing 5 speed auto (That never failed like a CVT will), amazing speakers, simple in car controls. This car could be like that, but they ruined it with the CVT transmission and the giant Ipad in the area where there should be a Pioneer stereo deck or something similar.
Couldn't agree more I have a 93 rs with 340,000 k's and still going strong I know when I slide my heater control or press a button it reacts touch screens DON'T always do that so your reaction is to look at the screen.
Hate the auto stop/start. People think I'm revving my engine at them at stop lights and either try to race or think I'm just an ass.
Exterior makes you say oh it’s just another same Subaru until you see the interior.
They could've done more to differentiate the XT. No trunk lid spoiler or front lip? Missed opportunities
Shame about the large digital display. Prefer the tactile feel of knobs and switches. Less distracting when your driving.
I owned one for 5 days, a lot of his complaints I agree with, one thing he didn’t do was break hard, the nose dive was terrible and I felt the handling was underwhelming.
The new 2020 Subaru Ascent’s engine is a test for the 2022 WRX. Apparently that is gonna have 500hp
no. The STI might...might get to 400. The WRX will likely not cross 300. Wrong market. Putting 500 through a 2.4l would push the price well outside the subaru market.
I work for a Subaru dealership and the STI’s are already out of the market so I can see that happening. Someone made out of a cross trek, up to 500hp with only bolt-on
@@benjaminarmstrong4274 man you so wrong now lol no more sti.
CVT and laggy screen make it a NO.
Nice report on the overall feel of the car.
I tested an Outback Touring XT and it threw me back in my seat!
Literally or figuratively?
Then you haven't experienced the 295 lb ft of torque in a Regal TourX 2.0T with torque vectoring AWD and transmission with gears!
Literally speaking.
@@raptor_boss6402 Are you looking to buy a new Subaru?
Terry Keith no.😂😂😂
I work at a dealership so sometimes I can drive Subaru’s, Volvo’s, VW’s, Audi’s and Hyundai’s.
I wish I could treat my dog to that kind of car :( he loves going on rides and I love him so much
This tablet screen is awesome
If your not driving it great.
Exterior looks like 2017 Mazda6 to me
That whine on cold start has been present on Subarus since 2010. Maybe even older.
I like Subarus a lot but CVT kills it. I can understand CVT in small city car under 15 grand but not in the vehicle with MSRP 35k. More over! I would even pay extra $ for the Aisin auto. I dont think replacing CVT by AUTO is a big problem nowadays. Just cant understand why they continue to develop this CVT theme. This gear shifts simulation, damn... You change regular AUTO to CVT and then you simulate shifts in the CVT what a genius!
Because it saves fuel. CVTs are more fuel efficient than standard autos. Customers want fuel efficient cars.
@@brandonb.5304 And also it looses a lot of power on the way from the engine to the wheels. Up to 40%. For example Aisin 6 speed loose around 25%. VW dsg 15%. Was testing on the dyno stand with my friends. Think bout it!! And yeah, dsg is even better then manual If we talk about fuel efficiency!
@@dmitry8340 If that were true, CVTs wouldn't be more fuel efficient. They'd have to make up that power loss by using more fuel to maintain speed.
Brandon B. More fuel efficient than what? Idk man you are free to call me a liar but I saw this with my own eyes. Why should I lie to you?? Ok never mind
@@dmitry8340 More fuel efficient than traditional automatics. Just Google it. It's not some made-up claim. They really are more fuel efficient than a traditional automatic. As fuel efficiency standards in cars went up because of regulations, manufacturers started switching to the CVT because of its fuel efficiency to meet new government mandated standards.
The how much gas you’ve saved using auto start/stop seems pretty cool, would love to use that but like others have been saying, it needs a DCT or quick shifting Auto but hearing the start/stop only lasts 15-20 secs seems pretty wasteful and annoying as I’ve always been told it’s efficient if you’re going to be stopped for 30 sec or more for engine to be turned off. Wish it turned off for 2 min or more like other systems
I did a test drive, everything is good about this car, but there should be transmission option for XT model, this turbo engine is wasted with CVT. Honda is offering their Accord Turbo with Automatic Transmission and not CVT.
I like it a lot. I'll have to check it out down the road if I ever want something nicer than my Crosstrek.
Interior it's like Lexus ES350 Level....but Maybe the glass make it double ??? I was looking at 2020 Legacy and End up buying a 2017 Lexus ES350
Why do the wheels look kinda like the civic wheels?🧐🧐🧐
I cant stand 2 tone wheels.
Restyle them, put in a decent transmission and this is a solid vehicle
Hopefully shows what the next gen WRX will be like on the new global platform with better rigidity and less road noise. Tuning should give more power and with manual could be very good👍
The only reason I didn't buy a Subaru is that each time you start the vehicle you have to go into the tablet screen to shut off the auto stop/start.
They should make the 11.6 in. Screen an option. It honestly is not necessary at all.
Hey the topher, will you tesr drive the vw arteon anytime soon? 😄
This will definitely be my first car
There is a update on the start stop now there's a spot on the monitor you can press without going through that other stuff
my dream and love is Subaru Legashi, its Japanese quality and reliability for always !!!
so its build with turbo and lineartronic CVT ?!!! i hope i did spell that right !! so lineartronic CVT transmission. is a CVT . they knew it will turn off people . because CVT is just another new engineering junk to save on gas . so they called it ( lineartronic CVT ) !!! too bad the interior looks good . the touch infotainment system has questionable reliability though.. thanks for the review. but for 36K the market get better choice ..
Already new and already knocking....
An 8 speed automatic would be great! Would make the car a nicer drive.
I don't know if I agree with 8 gears but I do agree a non CVT would be nice.
That chime brings Kia roll vibes
Less idle noise in my 15 year old Jetta, love the rest of the car aside from the exterior but hey that’s Subaru
That infotainment system is so speechless...
I love 99% of the tech. I hate a car that tells me to keep watching the road. 1: I already am, and 2: I don't need a car that is incapable of driving itself to police me and tell me how to do it.
If you already keep your eyes on the road, you'll never be bothered by it.
the interior color is very nice
I can't describe you how much that blinking pink/purple light distracted me while watching...still nice vid!
Babe/dude it's b/c of the camera you won't see it on naked eye. Looks like eye tracking
I think it was just your test car, I watched a couple of others and their screens were responsive
I guess Subaru doesn't really care about exterior styling
Let Charlie do an H/K audio sound system test on this legacy :)
It looks pretty inside but I’ll keep my forester XT.
Now this is the trim to get 👍👍👍
That infotainment is kinda laggy for a 2020 car. Especially in an era with smartphones that are blazing fast and with 120Hz screens.
How bright is the screen. It might be hard sometimes when the sun is being reflected from it ☀️😎
2.4l Turbo with CVT? Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
CVT чем не устроило?
I have a newer subaru and from personal experience, every-time you take a turn and the tires squeal like that, it means your throwing out your alignment cause it’s awd. They’re awd system is so delicate when it comes to the alignment. I can literally hit a small pothole and it throws my alignment out. good reliable car tho lol..
I leased one in March and the only thing I hate about this thing is the seats. Front seats are not comfortable in the long trip. Such a disappointment.. the car is awesome except its seats
Great Review Man...As usual
I feel like they did not even try to redo the rear end at all
The price is too high for this car
yonda ila 40?
This is the highest trim
K T yeah
People get over the cvt issue. Almost all main manufacturers are going that route at least the reliable manufacturers except mazda. Mazda is over there perfecting the engine. CVTs are not going around anytime soon so you might as well learn to drive them. The people who mind cvts typically drive like A holes. Like you are watching him drive, its plenty fast and responsive
Lmao.. they almost always break because only toyota seems to be capable of making one that doesnt expload at 100k miles. But hey, who doesnt want to be guarenteed to have to drop 8 grand on your vehicle at some point. Sucks too cause i loved driving the 2017 forester with one, but i was very thankful it was a loaner
@@dr._breens_beard yet... you can find 2014+s with 200k+ miles on them for sale. Hmmm... if they break why do some have so many miles?
@@dr._breens_beard subaru last longer than 200k miles
@@JaeBTundra1 *before going to cvt-only* there, fixed ur statement for ya
@@dr._breens_beard nah man lol got over 208k right now.
I prefer the older 05-09 models, but any legacy can sound like a v8.
I owned a B4 turbocharged BL and it was actually a driver's car. But this one looks like a car for grandma. Maybe this is not a worst car, but it is not interesting car at all. I'm slightly disappointed...
What is the best auto stop/start? Great videos!!!!!!!!!
The fact that i could buy 2 of my car plus 2 sets of tires for the same price as replacing the cvt in one of these should be enough to scare anyone away from subaru. The tranamissions are weaker than wet tissue. The very concept of their design makes them almost incapable of handling the stresses and torque of any modern vehicle. Even if that doesnt bug you, the replacement cost of when it finally DOES grenade is 8000 dollars. That is absolutely absurd
If the CVT fails during the lease term, it is 100% covered by the warranty. Nowdays, most of the folks lease the vehicles. As a matter of fact, I know no one who owns the vehicle in last 5 years. Lease only. Thus your concerns despite maybe valid, only apply to very limited set of general population. Plus, you can buy extended warranty which cost ~ 2K, thus 8K is not realistic cost of CVT replacement.
@@sunshadow9704 you are overlooking the resale market. Id expect resale value to resemble german luxury within 5 years.
This was a great video! My first Subie was a Legacy and I’ve owned an Outback and Forester as well. Happy to see the Lane Centering is effective, wish my 2019 Foz had it. Like you I also disable the AutoStartStop out of comfort (I feel the jarring sensation as well) and also disabled the overly chirpy Lane Departure Warning.
Hopefully they can iron out the kinks of it in the next year or two.
So, since the XT at this trim level pushes 40k after taxes and fees, would there be any reason to really consider this over something like a Tesla Model 3 LR AWD, assuming you had the ability to charge at home/work? You’re looking at a savings of around $4000 every 5 years in fuel costs with the Model 3.
The previous generation design was much better, especially rear and front view
Idea
Electrostatic? the glass on touchscreen for better response + better quality display? and darken the screen in day so colours behind can change this overlay screen to be bright with dark borders. Night time equals opposite?
Wow how unique a tablet makes up the whole interior of the car how creative even though it looks like shit and every auto maker in 2020 is doing it. I guess why worry about interior design when you can just mount a tablet on the dash and be done ?? These cars are trash these are not Subarus, If you want to see what people are talking about when they say Subarus are some of the greatest cars out there you have to find one from 07 or before. Otherwise your car will just say Subaru on it and be like every other piece of crap on the road today. All cars in 2020 suck for mile long list of reasons and unfortunately Subaru is no exception. I’ve always been a big Subaru fan this is hard to watch. 🤧
Couldn't agree more Bob so glad I have a 93rs liberty (legacy) and a 2000 Outback both with over 300,000 k's and still great to drive both so different.
Imagine buying this over a Camry XSE or Sonata Limited.
ehh if they were going for that big of a screen, they should have gone all in at responsiveness too
0 to 60 please? Nice Video! Hope Subaru make their cabin better and engine reliable so I will get it next!
6,0 seconds for the 2.4 turbo
@@leechap3 Thanks man!
@@EagleWolfSparrow No problem. Although I don't quite understand the rest of your comments. The cabin is beautiful, and the 2020 Legacy, like it's predecessor, has the highest Consumer Reports reliability and overall ratings of any mid-sized sedan.
@@leechap3 I see. I thought it's not as quiet as Lexus. But it surely looks awesome and beautiful
@@EagleWolfSparrow The Legacy and the Lexus GS are both rated 87/100 overall by Consumer Reports. The comfort sections are also almost identical with the Subaru a little better in ride quality and the Lexus ahead in seat comfort. The Legacy they used for their testing was the 182 HP engine, the Lexus was 350 HP, so not even a fair comparision there. Of course the Lexus is nearly triple the price.