Was driving in the snow last night and the ESP off was like driving with no tread on the tyres, but with it on is like the car knows your inputs forefront. Amazing safety aid.
It is true that the traction control is not very effective, in any case the ESP includes the traction control, and also the stability control (brakes the wheels according to the inclination of the car by a gyrometer located in the trunk), that is really pure shit. Imagine that you had to counterbalance to avoid a truck, but not too much to avoid a pram in front, and well the ESP will send you directly in front after correcting your trajectory, this is very dangerous. How to turn off this shit without disabling the traction control (which is part of the ESP)? ABS is really good but ESP is holy shit 90>2000+
O kurde, ja bym się bał, że wylecę tyłem z progu jak Małysz :) Ale fakt że quattro nawet na lodowisku radzi sobie całkiem nieźle. W miejscach gdzie trudno utrzymać się na nogach i nie wywinąć orła Audi idzie pod górkę bez zająknienia.
раньше! 1988 ауди 90 полный привод. доездила пока кузов не стал разваливаться без серьезных ремонтов. 1998 - дизель полнопривод ауди. Двигло два раза перетряхался - ну примерно то же что на видео - там скорее всего 2.5 TDI. Работа полнопривода хуже. На трассе едет хуже. 2013 год.. Купил откатал не до конца гарантии и продал. Дерьмо - я задолбался по гарантии ждать и купил себе до кучи А4 с 1.9 TDI 2002 г. Обычный передний привод. По снегу на шипованных шинах лезет пока снег на стекло не попрет. CVT = говно. В условиях каждую зиму много дней плохая дорога ломается. На трассе тоже износ в одной зоне конусов - программа тоже говно турбина засирается. Так вот по двум старым скучаю - ну куда лучше были машинки и по ремонту и по стоимости обслуживания да и ходовые характеристики вполне себе. Но увы таких в как то нормальном состоянии не найти - их уже нет. Новье - много денег и может быть опять дерьмо. Так что покатаюсь пока на 20 с лишнем летнем немце - ауди рассыпаться не собирается и особо не капризничает... Но вот какая штука - на ауди 1988 года я за миллион километров один раз пользовался эвакуатором. На 1998 за 450 тыс трижды. На 2013 раз пять за 90 тыс ( это че за дерьмо!) на 2002 за 140 пока ни разу.
I had a lesson in how effective esp systems are on a circular skid pan in an AMG Mercedes - 6.3L, 500+Hp, rear wheel drive. Driving nice and slow, instructor says tap the throttle: Esp on - nothing, car just went round a little faster... Esp half off - horrible, car allows back end to step out just enough so I instinctively tried to correct, by which time the car had got bored waiting for the pathetically slow driver to correct and had already done so - zig-zagged in a saw toothed circle. Esp fully off - car just span around 360 decrees before I could react!
I found it quite amusing watching the car slide down the hill. One thing you might also want to consider is snow tyres. Quattro will only get you so far. Tyres are the only point of contact between you and the road surface, so getting it right is key.
ESP przy wolnej jeździe na śniegu czy lodzie nie pomaga, wiem o tym z doświadczenia. Auto się ślizga koła próbują trzymać prosty tor jazdy blokując raz jedną stronę raz drugą stronę, przez co przy małych prędkościach podkreślę, auto "chodzi na boki" a nie do przodu. W moim wypadku był to wjazd na parking przez zaspę pozostawioną po pługu, koła napędzane wjechały w zaspę i na boki, po wyłączeniu ESP auto ładnie wjechało.
People here are awful they stay at home because 2cm snow 😂 they had to close the High Fen (the only region which has a halfway decent amount of snow every year) because of all the tourists from Flanders, Netherlands or northern part from Wallonia, for which snow is an attraction.
Around 0 C is the most slippery usually if the road is frozen. That is because you have same time nearly liquid water on top of ice. When it gets colder, the traction gets better. Second thing, it's all about tires. You need proper winter tires in snow. ;-)
@@antton9623 if one wheel gets into wheelspin, the differential bring all the force to this wheel and the other stand still. Thats the effect of a normal differential. To prevent this, you can bring a soft touch to the brake while you accelerate to bring the force to each wheels. Thats the same what a electrik differential lock does but preventive not reactive. That makes this techniq in icey conditions better. 😊
I always off ESP (so traction control is also off) when i drive on snow. I always had problems with hill with ESP becouse it braking tire spin and i loose my speed. Without ESP i have tire spin but i can control it with gas pedal and almost always go on top of hill with only front drive.
@@escaravelhocheiodelume makes absolutely sense if you are also capable of modulating your brake pressure around slip limit 5-10 times per second as a modern systems do...
No electronic aid can cope wth a torsen differential (not to mention 3), which is as analogue as it gets. Of course you don't need TC in such conditions anyway - the best is having just a little slip to get forward.
It’s not power it needs tho if your wheel is spinning constantly it won’t find traction and grip to the road. The engine cutting off power for a brief moment will allow the spin to reset, so it can find traction again. Too much power will just lead to wheel spin which won’t grip at all
@@Roocky11 no ABS and TC work separately ESP ensures u don't roll over or over spin by limiting engine power and braking certain wheels to achive the desired direcrion
@@LordOfChaos.x you are correct about ESP but if a car have ESP it usually always have TC and ABS too. In this video he compared with ESP on and off which means that when ESP is off TC is also off resulting in more power to the wheels.
@@Roocky11 ESP has nothing to do with ABS or TC ESP only cuts power when car starts to slide or role over and applies braking power to some wheels to make it stable ABS only stops the wheels from locking U can have ESP without TC and ABS actived
@@LordOfChaos.x I'm not sure what cars you drive that has ESP but has nothing to do with ABS or TC? I owned one of these Audi's in the video and when you turn off ESP you also turn off TC. ABS however will always stay on whether ESP is on or off. "The electronic stability program (ESP®) supports the driver in nearly all critical driving situations. It comprises the functions of the antilock braking system (ABS) and the traction control system, but can do considerably more. It detects vehicle skidding movements, and actively counteracts them." www.bosch-mobility-solutions.com/en/products-and-services/passenger-cars-and-light-commercial-vehicles/driving-safety-systems/electronic-stability-program/
in VW cars ESP contains ASR (or TC). I have a 2005 Sharan TDI 2WD, and it has ESP, which activates when it is going to drifting, and/or prevents wheel slip when accelerating.
That is obvious that you have to turn off esp when driving in such conditions. I learned about it when I was talking to people living in the mountains.
You have no idea, one time I went drifting with ESP switched off, the system wouldn't let me throw too much power to the wheels because of potential traction loss. When I pushed the button, it released that barrier and away the wheels spun and the drifting began
Kot vam so že povedali, esp je drug sistem, ki skrbi za to, da avto ne rotira v ovinku (ustrezno zavira v kombinaciji vseh 4 zavor, zato rabi tudi 4 diske), ne pa za optimalno oprijem pogonskih koles. Popravite naslov.
ASR means Antriebsschlupfregelung (herrgott!, german language is so beautiful, everything in this language sounds like 'hände hoch", for example, another acronym: MSR, also get from german language: Motor-Schleppmoment-Regelung), I think in English ASR is called: Traction Control System. And everything is for a particular reason, the key is to know when to use it. As You mentioned, ESP helps us mainly to correct the trajectory of an already running vehicle, when the car starts to travel not in direction which was being chosen by the steering wheel, BUT, when it comes to the beginning of the run of the vehicle if You know what You are going to do, it is often better not to limit the wheels spin - but once again I want to emphasize - if You know what You are going to do. But in most cases, ASR saves the drivers who were not trained at all in advanced driving cars (also known as the people who should use uber instead of driving license) from falling into bigger problems than not being able to go up even the small hill.
ESP for what????? Come on boys snow cliffs and mud only traction control or ASR anti spin...... ESP i think that turns on the diagony brakes in curve to avoid overturning!!!!
As i though.... ESP breaks the 4WDvcompletly, meanwhile without ESP you can get with enough throttle the (damn useless, cheap) Haldex to work as intended
No, ESP stands for 'Electric Stability Program. This is to prevent uncontrolled slides, not tire slippage/wheel spin. That's the TC ore Traction Control. This video just show that the driver don't know his car.
0:41 ..not the blow off valve you were expecting.
Can't stop laughing
made my day
Stututu.
underrated comment
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Stability control doesnt have a lot to do when going up a hill in the snow. Traction control does the most
Traction Control is built into Electronic Stability Program which means on his second try the Traction Control is switched off.
Slow minds controlled on the track.
Sometimes ppl reached their peak and went downhill before they ever had a chance. Dirty games bro.
in my opinion tires do the most
@@Bvlcony nah the 4wd does
I never searched for this...
Then why did you click on it?
TH-cam recommend
Was driving in the snow last night and the ESP off was like driving with no tread on the tyres, but with it on is like the car knows your inputs forefront. Amazing safety aid.
Wow man that esp, and then he turned it off, wow! Man what a difference. I just can’t believe it. Noice.
You can see on top he don't have much snow under tires.
I dont understand are you goona drive with esp off or on
Calm down m8
I‘m dying💀😂
It is true that the traction control is not very effective, in any case the ESP includes the traction control, and also the stability control (brakes the wheels according to the inclination of the car by a gyrometer located in the trunk), that is really pure shit.
Imagine that you had to counterbalance to avoid a truck, but not too much to avoid a pram in front, and well the ESP will send you directly in front after correcting your trajectory, this is very dangerous. How to turn off this shit without disabling the traction control (which is part of the ESP)?
ABS is really good but ESP is holy shit 90>2000+
Don't see any difference
Yuzker the second time more power was needed and things got squirrelly at the end.
Yuzker because AUDI POWERRR!
Almost no difference with Torsen th-cam.com/video/Hlf4RF5J2_Q/w-d-xo.html
Big difference with Haldex
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You are right
more fun
This is particularly brilliant you got your light switch right beside you. "off" and "especially off"
Why did I expect something spectacular....
ESP will only react if there is a yaw moment... traction controll is more helpful in icy conditions.
ESP will react in all directions. Traction Control is part of the ESP together with ABS.
Roocky11 im not sute does this car have tc? Because esp and abs are mix up together
Esp is tc
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O kurde, ja bym się bał, że wylecę tyłem z progu jak Małysz :) Ale fakt że quattro nawet na lodowisku radzi sobie całkiem nieźle. W miejscach gdzie trudno utrzymać się na nogach i nie wywinąć orła Audi idzie pod górkę bez zająknienia.
Nooo ññññññ
More importantly, it looks like that car had winter tires, they make all the difference!
i had summer tires this winter xD still fucking went up the hill xD
@@kevinhawley962 haha did you have awd? What car?
Finally learned how to waste my fuel
U mean how to waste your tyres 😉😁
Cry
wow those 10 cents worth of diesel will really hurt your soul
gold era, 90s audi was insane in beauty and quality
раньше! 1988 ауди 90 полный привод.
доездила пока кузов не стал разваливаться без серьезных ремонтов.
1998 - дизель полнопривод ауди. Двигло два раза перетряхался - ну примерно то же что на видео - там скорее всего 2.5 TDI.
Работа полнопривода хуже. На трассе едет хуже.
2013 год.. Купил откатал не до конца гарантии и продал.
Дерьмо - я задолбался по гарантии ждать и купил себе до кучи А4 с 1.9 TDI 2002 г.
Обычный передний привод. По снегу на шипованных шинах лезет пока снег на стекло не попрет. CVT = говно. В условиях каждую зиму много дней плохая дорога ломается. На трассе тоже износ в одной зоне конусов - программа тоже говно турбина засирается.
Так вот по двум старым скучаю - ну куда лучше были машинки и по ремонту и по стоимости обслуживания да и ходовые характеристики вполне себе.
Но увы таких в как то нормальном состоянии не найти - их уже нет.
Новье - много денег и может быть опять дерьмо.
Так что покатаюсь пока на 20 с лишнем летнем немце - ауди рассыпаться не собирается и особо не капризничает...
Но вот какая штука - на ауди 1988 года я за миллион километров один раз пользовался эвакуатором. На 1998 за 450 тыс трижды. На 2013 раз пять за 90 тыс ( это че за дерьмо!) на 2002 за 140 пока ни разу.
When is ON and when OFF...???!
1. On 2.off
Doesn’t really matter, Quattro power.
@@Divine_Serpent_Geh Vorsprung Durch Technik
Well you could just read the description but...
@@Divine_Serpent_Geh cool name bro
The car is like... dude, enough of this button pressing, let's just go and have some fun in the snow!!!
Rozumiem że pierwszy podjazd jest w włączonym ESP, a drugi już z wyłączonym?
I had a lesson in how effective esp systems are on a circular skid pan in an AMG Mercedes - 6.3L, 500+Hp, rear wheel drive.
Driving nice and slow, instructor says tap the throttle:
Esp on - nothing, car just went round a little faster...
Esp half off - horrible, car allows back end to step out just enough so I instinctively tried to correct, by which time the car had got bored waiting for the pathetically slow driver to correct and had already done so - zig-zagged in a saw toothed circle.
Esp fully off - car just span around 360 decrees before I could react!
Then you are a slow driver
I think you mean 603bhp because everyone drives 500bhp cars.
The sound of that motor makes me happy .
audi Quattro i have this car and love it its a really nice car
I just drive my old banger by reaching a fast speed then quickly going up snow hill.
lol this guy knows
Aren't you supposed to go light on the throttle to stop wheel spin?
Sometimes you get more traction if you spin through the snow and into the gravel below.
I was reading "audio quattro with esp and esp"
I was so confused for a hot sec lol
I found it quite amusing watching the car slide down the hill. One thing you might also want to consider is snow tyres. Quattro will only get you so far. Tyres are the only point of contact between you and the road surface, so getting it right is key.
ESP przy wolnej jeździe na śniegu czy lodzie nie pomaga, wiem o tym z doświadczenia. Auto się ślizga koła próbują trzymać prosty tor jazdy blokując raz jedną stronę raz drugą stronę, przez co przy małych prędkościach podkreślę, auto "chodzi na boki" a nie do przodu. W moim wypadku był to wjazd na parking przez zaspę pozostawioną po pługu, koła napędzane wjechały w zaspę i na boki, po wyłączeniu ESP auto ładnie wjechało.
Meanwhile in belgium people get stuck in 2cm of snow while it's just slightly below freezing temperature
People here are awful they stay at home because 2cm snow 😂 they had to close the High Fen (the only region which has a halfway decent amount of snow every year) because of all the tourists from Flanders, Netherlands or northern part from Wallonia, for which snow is an attraction.
Around 0 C is the most slippery usually if the road is frozen. That is because you have same time nearly liquid water on top of ice. When it gets colder, the traction gets better. Second thing, it's all about tires. You need proper winter tires in snow. ;-)
yeah the second try was without esp. But this is senseless when you dont lock the Differential with the Brake. 👍
Lock the diff with the brake? What the fuck are you trying to say?
@@antton9623 if one wheel gets into wheelspin, the differential bring all the force to this wheel and the other stand still. Thats the effect of a normal differential. To prevent this, you can bring a soft touch to the brake while you accelerate to bring the force to each wheels. Thats the same what a electrik differential lock does but preventive not reactive. That makes this techniq in icey conditions better. 😊
Or you just lock the differential with the stick next to the gear changer.
Lada Taiga Owner
I always off ESP (so traction control is also off) when i drive on snow. I always had problems with hill with ESP becouse it braking tire spin and i loose my speed. Without ESP i have tire spin but i can control it with gas pedal and almost always go on top of hill with only front drive.
ESP waits for grip, Quattro hunts for it
The real question is, why does it have 3 mio viewers?
And why am I here watching this.
Question - where does Kevin Lee fit into all of this?
Mma community 🐐
I didnt expect this comment here😂
I see holes in the ESP
Most random place to find a fellow member of the mma community
Lmfao why here
I think "off" is much better :)
when the street is wet, i always drive with it OFF
@@escaravelhocheiodelume nice idea
@@escaravelhocheiodelume makes absolutely sense if you are also capable of modulating your brake pressure around slip limit 5-10 times per second as a modern systems do...
@@mrkripi2799 and better still if you modulate throttle and steering angle
@@mrkripi2799 Makes no sense. ABS will prevent your brakes from working on such icy hill. No ABS will let you use your brakes, even if fully locked.
Exactly the video I was looking for
No electronic aid can cope wth a torsen differential (not to mention 3), which is as analogue as it gets.
Of course you don't need TC in such conditions anyway - the best is having just a little slip to get forward.
Maybe a simple subtitle saying ‘on’ and ‘off’ would have been a good idea here! What a waste of time!!
it is in the description.
But I still agree.
esp reduce engine power to reduce wheel spin... So yeah, when facing uphill, you engine got cut off and you lose power when you need it the most.
It’s not power it needs tho if your wheel is spinning constantly it won’t find traction and grip to the road. The engine cutting off power for a brief moment will allow the spin to reset, so it can find traction again. Too much power will just lead to wheel spin which won’t grip at all
CE = Celje = Slovenija = bio sam tamo puno puta
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Do they even have real winter tires if not V70 fwd with winter tires would make that hill up
Didn't know you could even turn off esp. Traction co trol sure but ESP?
It is ASR, - traction control. it shuts off when you turn off ESP - Stability control.
Killawife TRC is traction control.
@@fredrik1417 le wut? 2 years ago. but still: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traction_control_system
sam napęd to nie wszystko liczy się też wyważenie pojazdu ( zaciski na osie) itp
The hidden magic of snow tires
Очень "познавательно". Давай то же самое, только с включенными и выключенными ПТФ.
Дикари
Putin Huilo !!!
@@koperosropero1898 Да не бойся ты так. Солдат ребёнка не обидит.
I guess problem is TIRE quality and snow build of course and traction control...
This has nothing to do with ESP. ESP is activated when the car is beginning to slide in corners. This is an poor demonstration of how not to use TC
Yes it has. ESP also consist of two other systems which one of them is TC.
@@Roocky11 no ABS and TC work separately
ESP ensures u don't roll over or over spin by limiting engine power and braking certain wheels to achive the desired direcrion
@@LordOfChaos.x you are correct about ESP but if a car have ESP it usually always have TC and ABS too. In this video he compared with ESP on and off which means that when ESP is off TC is also off resulting in more power to the wheels.
@@Roocky11 ESP has nothing to do with ABS or TC
ESP only cuts power when car starts to slide or role over and applies braking power to some wheels to make it stable
ABS only stops the wheels from locking
U can have ESP without TC and ABS actived
@@LordOfChaos.x I'm not sure what cars you drive that has ESP but has nothing to do with ABS or TC? I owned one of these Audi's in the video and when you turn off ESP you also turn off TC. ABS however will always stay on whether ESP is on or off.
"The electronic stability program (ESP®) supports the driver in nearly all critical driving situations. It comprises the functions of the antilock braking system (ABS) and the traction control system, but can do considerably more. It detects vehicle skidding movements, and actively counteracts them."
www.bosch-mobility-solutions.com/en/products-and-services/passenger-cars-and-light-commercial-vehicles/driving-safety-systems/electronic-stability-program/
Audi A4? Tell me full name and year of this car. Thks
Audi a4 b6 (2001-2005)
Audi is a good car, especially with quattro
Nice test!
My Golf had a winter mode button on it
Cómo desperdiciar un minuto de nuestras vidas, muchas gracias 😐
ESP or traction control ? both are different
in VW cars ESP contains ASR (or TC). I have a 2005 Sharan TDI 2WD, and it has ESP, which activates when it is going to drifting, and/or prevents wheel slip when accelerating.
Quattro Power i love It 💪💪💪💪💪💪
I love seeing the wheelspin
That is obvious that you have to turn off esp when driving in such conditions. I learned about it when I was talking to people living in the mountains.
Did you notice that TH-cam is switching to small format video
Wenn der Vogel besser schalten würde ,hätte er noch weniger Probleme ;)
slišim da je 1.9... a se prodaja ?
what does esp have to do with the ability to get up a hill? lol
Storhagen Kai.
You have no idea, one time I went drifting with ESP switched off, the system wouldn't let me throw too much power to the wheels because of potential traction loss. When I pushed the button, it released that barrier and away the wheels spun and the drifting began
sometimes esp cuts your power and the car might not have enough power to climb
Esp has nothing to do with that. Its called ASR or TCS. They dont allow wheels to spin
@@Donatas996 In mud, turning off ESP is a must....you actually need the wheel spin to keep momentum and get you out of there
Это седьмая симфония от инженеров Ауди!
For that type of driving all you need is tyres, torque and awd 50/50 if possible. No any aids needed.
What was difference ?.
It's about driver ! Never fucking stop on the middle
This was with and without ASR not ESP. ASR program is about tractionb control and wether the car gives power to wheels that is spinning or not
ESP stand for both traction control, and stability control, turning it off, will disable them both
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thats not esp
???
there is nothing to do with esp ~ i mean in this video. it is called TCS , TRC or ASR.
evilevow Those are different names for the same system
nah ~~ ESP means Electronic Stability Program , TCS is Traction control system. you can google the driferents
Kot vam so že povedali, esp je drug sistem, ki skrbi za to, da avto ne rotira v ovinku (ustrezno zavira v kombinaciji vseh 4 zavor, zato rabi tudi 4 diske), ne pa za optimalno oprijem pogonskih koles. Popravite naslov.
Vse razmere so odlične razmere...Slovenija čuti quattro!
To pa ITAK...ni ga jačega..
Wo ist jetzt da n Unterschied ?
With ESP and ESP off... What can i say... Nice and nice video...
summer tires?
есп душит авто. Тактика дракон нога рулит почти везде, кроме мокрого глубокого снега.
Putin Huilo !!
2,5tdi 163hp?
1st: with esp
2nd: without esp
(from description)
ASR !
ESP - Electronic Stabilation Program
ASR - Acceleration Slip Regulation
Track control this ASR
ASR means Antriebsschlupfregelung (herrgott!, german language is so beautiful, everything in this language sounds like 'hände hoch", for example, another acronym: MSR, also get from german language: Motor-Schleppmoment-Regelung), I think in English ASR is called: Traction Control System.
And everything is for a particular reason, the key is to know when to use it.
As You mentioned, ESP helps us mainly to correct the trajectory of an already running vehicle, when the car starts to travel not in direction which was being chosen by the steering wheel, BUT, when it comes to the beginning of the run of the vehicle if You know what You are going to do, it is often better not to limit the wheels spin - but once again I want to emphasize - if You know what You are going to do. But in most cases, ASR saves the drivers who were not trained at all in advanced driving cars (also known as the people who should use uber instead of driving license) from falling into bigger problems than not being able to go up even the small hill.
2.5tdi?
My Volvo XC90 will do this?
1.9 TDI?
this is Audi a4 quatro?
I love x-drive ^^
What tyres are on?
man can drive
Show me your tyres name ?
Well, this situation has nothing to do with ESP. TC is interesting in this case
The difference was astronomical 😂
so they're.... all the same?
bravo...audi je audi...
What is ESP?
That’s not ESP that’s make the different. It’s Dsc. Drift control system. That’s together with esp.
Driving up icy hill has nothing to do with ESP. Thats ASR
ESP for what?????
Come on boys snow cliffs and mud only traction control or ASR anti spin......
ESP i think that turns on the diagony brakes in curve to avoid overturning!!!!
As i though.... ESP breaks the 4WDvcompletly, meanwhile without ESP you can get with enough throttle the (damn useless, cheap) Haldex to work as intended
No, ESP stands for 'Electric Stability Program. This is to prevent uncontrolled slides, not tire slippage/wheel spin. That's the TC ore Traction Control. This video just show that the driver don't know his car.
F.J. Z esp and tc are often coupled to each other
Гениальный автомобиль!
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1.9?
Both look the same.
good tires! :)
And comment section does not struggle at all.
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Dude needs a Subaru 😜👍🏻🇬🇧
What are the tires on the car, R15 or R16?
15
what was on and what off ?
Even with Esp on you were forcing the car to stop at the worst place but 80% of the times you better of withour esp
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