I have this lens for my D7200 and absolutely love the image quality I get out of it (most of the time)... I've had the lens for two months now and have shot 2000+ images with it. That said, I did just do a shoot with low natural light shooting at slower shutter speeds and noticed I have an issue with the VC in my lens. Starting at 1/200th of a second (very apparent at 1/125th down) and slower the images are actually sharper with the VC off rather than on. This also happened with a brand new 24-70 that my local camera shop had as well as with Tamron's new 45mm 1.8. I just returned the 45mm since it was still in the return window and have sent the 24-70 in for warranty repair. We'll see if they fix the issue. I suggest that if you get this lens (or any Tamron VC lens for that matter), you immediately find yourself a brick wall, stand 8-12 ft away, shoot it in Aperture Priority at f/8 with the VC turned on and walk your shutter speed down from 1/1000th to 1/60th and see if you notice any soft images. Here's a link to a google drive folder where you can visually see what I am talking about. drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4FGnwswPW_VRkNicVhZT1U1WVk&usp=sharing
Tony, when doing lens reviews don't you think you should use a tripod for the photos where VR is not in the equation? I particularly felt this from your focus breathing test while trying to stand in the same spot. Yes, you are probably right that tamron focal length is not calibrated as accurately as nikon but the amount could be made marginally better or worse due to body movement in your experiment. I think experimental parts of the review should be as scientific as possible.
I've got the Tamron lens on my D800E and I love it! Only thing though is that the moving part of the lens actually wobbles a bit and makes a bunch of thudding noises and when I move it with my hand while the camera is in live view, I notice the black corners actually move around (but very little) too. But other than that, highly recommend the Tamron if you want to save a bit of money. I'm Looking for a nice 50mm too and looking to just go for the little cheap Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D. Maybe when I'm free :)
The Tamron 24-70 will be my next lens! I have the Tamron 70-200 2.8. I love it!!! $1000 less than the Nikon, with better quality! Thanks Tony and Chelsea (and Danny D.) for the great review. You guys are the best!
Many people upgrade to these pro-grade lenses to get sharper images, not at the center of the frame, but towards the corners. It's a bit surprising that you don't compare off-center sharpness. Choosing a scene with lots of moving subjects for testing low shutter speed image sharpness is also a bit awkward. Bokeh quality comparison would have been a great addition as well.
The Tamron is a fantastic lens. For people photography, sharpness in the corners isn't much of an issue, in my experience. At shorter focal lengths, you avoid your subject to be in the corners because of distortion. Towards 70, it may be an issue. Bokeh... That's a purely subjective thing. If you want, go to the Flickr group and look through some images taken with the lens. I personally find the bokeh of the Tamron very pleasing, especially if the out of focus background is greenery with some patches of sunlight. It's just beautiful, IMHO!
Surprised as the G from Nikon should have superb sharpness in the middle compared to most of the lenses, even the new E one... Might be the AF a little off in the asylum photo?Wanna have a lens for a concerts in a bad light and wonder if should I go tamron G2 or Nikon G in that AF consistency regard... Of course VR would be welcome for convenient landscape photos, but can have tripod with me...
Hello Tony and Chelsea. I like your reviews. But I am a bit irritated about your comments on focus breathing and magnification. Tamron stated in their specs that the maximum magnification of the 24-70 f2.8 is 1:5 while the Nikon offers 1:3,7. Taking into account the same focus distance it should be pretty clear that there has to be a difference and the Tamron is certainly more wide angle. Around ~25 % more to be precise. So your result just confirms the technical specification.
Ralf O Focus breathing and magnification aren't necessarily related. Focal length at close distances is an important factor for many photographers, so we always test and disclose it.
Tony Northrup Indeed, Nikon Micro-Nikkor lenses have this "feature". The 60mm lens is not too bad (actual focal length 55mm) but the 105mm is about 78mm) and the 200mm Micro-Nikkor is just 125mm when the magnification is 1:1.
In the sharpness test with the cone shaped tiled roof the tiled seemed to have better contrast and slightly better sharpness to me. Minor detail. Nice video.
I have a few lenses now in my collection my latest addition was the Tamron 24-70 I love it and it's my go to Lense if I'm forced to just take one with me. Yes the price is still over 1k but it's worth it. You won't be disappointed.
Yeah, I would definitely give the Tamron a go. The colour and contrast is fine. Slight flare is acceptable. I don't really like this range so saving $600 for another lens sounds great to me. Great lens to shoot events in dark places.
I was going to get a 50mm prime lens. However, I have made my decision to get the 24-70mm Tamron. Yours and +Matt Granger was the final "snapshot" I needed to complete my "series" as I have been researching like mad to figure out my next lens. Being that I am going into the portrait realm of photography, this lens seems like the best bang for buck in comparison to everything else I have looked at for my D5300. I know realize it is a cropped sensor but it's also a pro lens, and I need that for the next level for when I do get a full frame body. We can't all buy $1.5k lenses. So this will be a stellar investment being I'm buying used and looking forward to the long haul. Thanks again for a thorough review of this lens, and I will continue watching viewing your channel for future additions.
Tony, you ditched the Golden Dome for Burnt Orange. This is a problem. Beyond that, another great review. You guys are one of the only shutterbugs on net that INSIST on comparing apples to apples. Most reviewers choose to gloss over focus breathing, full-frame/crop lens aperture differences, etc but you don't drink the propaganda or bath water. You cant argue mathematics. Price is a different metric and Im glad you always separate the price argument from the performance argument until its relevant to the discussion.
Great video as always - thanks! One thing I would have liked was a comment on the real world implications of the focus breathing. I understand the issue, but how bad is it for e.g. portrait use in a real world scenario? Usually I would prefer to be at least 1.5-2 meters (5-7 ft) from my subject in order to prevent those crazy "big-nose" distortions, and it would be interesting to know how much of an issue the focus breathing is at that distance? Is the effective focal length still significantly shorter? You mentioned an effective focal lenght of 64 mm (I think it was) when doing the VR test - was that shot at the 70 mm mark on the Tamron?
Hello tony. I have a nikon d800 and I need to do a 24-70, but I'm undecided between Nikon & Tamron, given your experience in photography, can you tell me if it worths to buy it, since you've tried what you advise me. With the purpose is used for marriage and so on.
"The Tamron is definitely not 70mm. It's something..(pause)..shorter". Love the Carl Sagan / William Shatner pauses Tony 😀. Kidding aside, keep up the good work. Your knowledge keeps us dedicated enthusiasts informed. Thanks for all you and Chelsea do.
I found a usedTamron 24-70mm and have been using it on a classic Nikon D750 with great results! However, I also have an older DX camera and wondering if I will lose image quality using this lens on the DX crop sensor....your thoughts?!
Tony, Great review! If you had to choose between the Tamron 24-70 or the 70-200 lens for portraits, weddings, etc which one would you rather have? Thanks!
+ziphoticus1970 I prefer the 24-70 for portraits, for me, the 70-200 is big and heavy, not something I want to haul around all day. Also, I'm rarely that far away from my subjects to need it. If you are shooting outdoors and can't get say within 10- 20 feet of your subject go big. I also favor the big primes 85mm and 105mm for portraits. On my DX, I use a 35mm and 50 mm 1.8. most of the time. That all said, and it's just my experience and I'm certainly not a seasoned pro, my advice would be to rent both lenses and take a few days to shoot with them both, then make your decision. I rented a 70-200 for a shoot and liked it, but not enough to fork over about 2K for one!
I'm still undecided between the 2, but sharpness is the only thing I care about. You said a few times that the Tamron is a bit sharper, but Cameralabs did a real-world comparison and showed that the Nikon was way sharper, especially on the corners?
+Herp McDerpington I have seen people test several copies of one particular model lens and find them quite different. I also head people talk about the very good sharpness of the Nikon, but I cannot compare the Tamron and the Nikon, simply because I don’t have access to the Nikon. I am very happy with the Tamron. If I had to, I’d replace it with the same lens. Anyway, the 24-70 would be my main work horse. I’m into people photography, so it is often rather the expression of the subject, or the moment I try to capture. There is a bit of vignetting, which doesn’t bother me. I certainly cannot complain about lack of sharpness of the Tamron.
Videos I would like to see in the future from you guys: Tamron 24-70mm f2.8 vs Sigma 24-105mm f4. Also: Data management. How do you organize and store the many many GBs you get from shooting a lot ? What harddrives, cloud services etc. do you use how do you manage everything. Love your videos and books !
fetze Good suggestions, I'll put them on the list. Re: Tamron vs Sigma, I use the Tamron for events (like a wedding reception) where I need the extra stop. For everything else, I prefer the Sigma. We mostly just use the Sigma. For data, I just keep buying the biggest USB 3 hard drives, filling them up, making an extra copy, and storing it off-site. No cloud service is affordable, and there's not enough bandwidth for all our data.
Kevin Good when he was working with the "WOMP" channel agreed that in the lineup of Canon, Nikon, Tamron and Sigma. Tamron's 24-70 2.8 just straight out out performed the others in very important categories. Its an amazing lens at that price compared to the competition. Do you think Sigma will come out with an Art version of the 24-70 and 70-200 with OS?
yes they will, but the question is when, and not sure if the 24/70 will have IS, but maybe it will be even faster then f2.8, but i'm more looking forward to the new 85 f1.4 ART witch I think might be out before the zooms, but I could be wrong
I think you are right about the 85 I heard rumor that Sigma's art version of the 24-70 may actually be an F/2 lens and will have OS.. That would be a very serious contender if the price is right
First of all, holy moly... so much objective evaluation crammed into 7-something minutes. wow.. THANK YOU, Tony & Chelsea! No,w quick question... Could you advise as to what the focus breathing behavior of the Tamron is as one moves farther and farther away from the minimum focusing distance? meaning, is it a constant variance from true 70mm up to a certain point and then BAM, 70mm is 70mm(on/off)? or is it gradual...diff between true 70mm and delivered 70mm gradually decreases until you get far enough away for 70mm to be 70mm?
I respect this review but I will still go with the Nikon 24-70mm. Ihave seen all the DXO Mark test as well as other sites. The final choice for me is "resale" value. The Tamron doesn't have much of a resale value as compared to the Nikon. So in the end if I decide I made a mistake trying to become a pro photographer, I know I will get about a 3/4 return on my dollar with the Nikon. Again, great video but I think the point I mentioned should be factored in.
Hi tony. I own both lenses. I got the tamron thinking it would be good for video. But now i use it all the time for photography, it's lighter, sharper and the VC is amazing. One thing though, and its my only but with this lens. Autofocus is slower, and in low light it's even slower and half as accurate,
I have the Tamron 18-270mm lens. It never leaves my D 40. I am think of a wide angle lens. And it is tough. Can you do a comparison between Tamron, Sigma or something else. I think remember you saying how sharp the Sigma was even compare to the Canon.. My wide angle would be a 10- 24 mm What do you suggest?
Wouldn't the focus breathing test be better on a tripid? Even if you are standing in the same spot, it is hard to gauge how much you lean forward or back. That being said, I believe you on the Tamron because tests done on the 70-200mm Tamron vs. Nikon, showed the same issue.
Hey Tony. I'm wondering by you mentioning ”there is no significant difference”, while shooting continuous between lenses. Which one focused better? There was some difference right or was there no difference at all? Well did Nikon beat out Tamron or vice versa? What kind of percent?
robert paxton I mean, there was no statistically significant difference. Focusing speed and accuracy seems to be exactly the same. We tested the D810 vs D610 at the same time, using the same methodology, and did see a statistically significant and predictable difference. So I feel like the test would have shown a difference if there was one.
Hello Tony, please can you give me some urgent advice! I cannot decide between the Tamron 24-70 or the 70-200. Each are in my budget at the moment but not both. My primary focus will be studio photography of newborn babies and couple pics standing in front a white screen. My studio will have 3-4 meters of movement. I also want to shoot outdoor stuff like weddings and sports. Which one would you pick for my current situation? Thank you!
Awesome comparison, you guys are the best photo channel with the best content. I was just thinking if the extra bucks are worthed ? But i dont think so.
Tony, I'm so conflicted as what to get as my next camera. I'm debating whether or not to get the D610 or D750 as well as the Tamron 24-70 or the Nikon 24-70. All your videos make them all good. In your professional opinion, what would you recommend?
+Shaun Vent (ShaunV) depends what your lens you have already. I would chose a D610, cheaper, basically same sensor. Unless you NEED something extra from D750, just chose D610.
+Shaun Vent (ShaunV) Yep, like Stephan said, same sensor. But d750 has better ISO, better focus, flip screen and wifi. I find these extras extremly helpfull.
Do I understand correctly that the sharpness test you did was only at 24mm? DxOMark says that at 70mm wide open Nikon is actually is significantly sharper than Tamron. Also Nikon's AF is appreciably faster than Tamron. I am surprised this did not show in your tests.
Thanks for the video. I wonder how much focus breathing affects if you are not standing at minimum focusing distance but more like head and shoulders distance. And about sharpness at 70mm. I head Nikon got lead there.. is it true? Trying to choose a zoom for D750.(you guy's and girl ;) should try that camera out, it tops D610 pretty much everywhere in my opinion. Maybe Execpt AWB but since i shoot RAW, it doesnt matter really much. Thank you!
Hey tony, i'm in the market for a new 24-70 2.8 as my nikon 28-70 2.8 is pretty beat up. I'm shooting weddings so build quality is a major consideration. Stabilization is not much of an issue for me as i'm shooting people the majority of the time (not with a gun that is). What would you suggest?
tokina 28-70 atx pro II 2.8? i cant find any good review for it. i am thinking to buy tamron 24-70 vc but i want to see comparison tamron vs tokina 28-70 atx pro II 2.8 before i decide? pls help
+Tony & Chelsea Northrup if u check yt, it is immposible to find any good review but i found some sites it has good results so it is weird how there is no videos about that lens. I hope u will review it in near future. I love ur videos. Cheers - regards from croatia
Well, I have the Tokina 28-70mm f/2.8 AT-X, and I want to share an interesting observation of this very good lens. First off, it's a very sharp lens, even at corners, and when wide open too. And when using with a DX sensor body, it does not show any distortion at all. However, when using with FX bodies, it has significant barrel distortion. Not a big deal, as it can be corrected in Lightroom, and the distorted parts look sharp too, but this is an interesting observation nonetheless. By the way, my Tokina 28-70 AT-X is a very old lens, I think, and I procured mine third hand for dirt cheap, like $50. So, I can't complain. But I am not sure if it is the same lens as the Tokina 28-70 AT-X Pro II you mention.
Sharp wide open and able to hand hold at crazy low speeds makes me really really want this lens. And it's 900 euro cheaper than the canon (Ireland). Also makes it an interesting choice for video with the VC.
I would think most ppl would rank sharpness high up on their list of what is important. That plus good image stabilization made Tamron the easy choice for me.
What do you think about the nre Nikon 24-70 with VR ? I'd like to see this test done again with all 3 of those lenses when the Nikon VR version is released.
amtraker The Nikon seems to be built better. We brought the Tamron on a hike in Glacier National Park and were caught in a flash flood, torrential rain that destroyed a 5D Mark II and 5D Mark III--but the Tamron survived just fine. But then again, I've never managed to break a lens with rain. We did break a Tamron 24-70 in half once, but it took a pretty good fall.
I'm looking to get a 24-70mm lens for my D810 in the near future. Have you done a comparison between this Tamron 24-70 with VC and the newest version of the Nikon 24-70 with VR? Price difference is $1,299 for the Tamron compared to $2,400 for the Nikon.
Hey tony, about the focus breathing how can you say that nikon is at 70mm and tamron is less? maybe it is the other way around, what if tamron is at 70mm and nikon is at 75?
I have just brought the Tamron 24-70 and i just love it,the images are really sharp and the real sweetener for me was i picked it up used only 3 months old for $650 a real bargain
MrDannyr2000 Yeah, I wish I'd mentioned it in the video, but you really should buy the Tamron 24-70 used because those things depreciate like crazy. They're a fantastic value used.
Which focal length was used for the VC test (billiard table test)? Just curious since at 70mm my keeper rate is not so good below 1/15 sec which translates to about 2.5 stops of VC assistance.
Hi Tony and Chelsea I really want to get some lenses for my photography. I really want the 24-70 mm and 70-200 mm at 2.8 lenses and a 24 mm at 1.4 or 1.8 (should i get this 24 mm?). I don't want to spend the money on a name brand if i don't have to. Which is best for shooting with Nikon equipment. At the moment i shoot with a Nikon D5000. I also have a 35 mm DX at 1.8 and a 50 mm at 1.4. Please help me out and thank you very much.
which lens would you recommend i just purchased a nikon d800 after being with canon for 11 years and i would like to know which lens would be the best for it should i pay more for the nikon or get the tamron? also does the tamron focus as fast as the nikon because i know that the nikon is super fast focusing?
Tony & Chelsea, first of all, thanks for your work. I am wondering if Is it there any way to have a comparition between the old Tamron 24-70 vs the newest Nikon 24-70 VRii as well and a comparision between the old tamron 24-70 vs the newst G2? It isn't been easy for me to finding a quality stuff like this video you guys made. Thanks for sharing with us!
Hi I'm planning to buy one of the lens between Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD and Tokina Fx 24-70mm f2.8 for my Nikon D610. Nikon Fx 24-70mm f2.8 VR is bit too expensive for me. I want a better image quality but VC/VR is equally important for me. I'm a casual photographer and use my camera mainly for travel photography. Currently most of my shots are landscape and some are portraits. I read the DXOMark review on these lens - tokina was rated better for it's sharpness/image quality but lacks vibration control. VC will be useful in the low light/slow shutter condition and videography. I'm not sure how good VC in this Tamron lens. Both lens has consistent wide aperture to take Bokeh and can help me to carry less lens for travel photography. Initially I wanted to buy tokina because reviews says that it has better image sharpness. But it lacks VC so I'm confused. Photography is my hobby but I've a plan to take it to another level. I need suggestions on how much impact these lenses can make on my in camera photo outcome.
Thank you for all yours great review and information, your videos are really helpful for a beginner photographer like i, i have a nikon camera D3200 which coming with 18-55mm kit Lens but i'm not a happy with the image quality and sharpness, i decided to upgrade my lens. I'm looking for something between 18-300 or 18-200mm max 800€ which lens your recommend for me? Thankyou
Hi there Tony! Quick question, I'm following your channel since a while now and I know you are a "Canon guy"(meaning you used it mostly for a lot). I saw your D810 review, which happened to be a great comparison with the 5D MKIII that has been outperformed hardly, and even the "Why I want to switch to Nikon but can't" video you uploaded later. My question is: are you moving more and more into Nikon? This is a Nikon vs Tamron test so my question already is half answered but I wonder, are you actually trying to switch to Nikon right now? Also, what's your thoughts on the new 7D MkII? I saw a lot of professionals dislike it. I'm learning all my stuff on a old 20D with a nifty fifty and a Canon 70-300 but I'm finishing a work at my job that will let me upgrade. I originally wanted the 7D since it's said to be one of the best semi-pro Canon has to offer but now I'm really hesitant about it. I love my 70-3000 but if I'll switch it won't go wasted, this is actually my "family camera" so we won't dumb it and it had the 70-300 as an extra in the first place. So, with this in mind, would you recommend staying with Canon or should I go with Nikon? This considering the fact I won't have the money to buy the best of the best(MkIII/D810) but I'll have to get the best semi-pro and invest in some quality glass considering that for freelance work I won't need the latest top camera anyway. Hope you got my point, my english is not the best, thanks in advance!
AndreCorner We're using the D810 for everything in the short range, say, 105mm and under. Above that we still have to go with Canon. Re: whether you should switch to Nikon, it really depends on your style of photography. I covered some of that in my Canon vs Nikon video, and there's more coverage in my Photography Buying Guide (links in the description).
Tony Northrup I'll check that both! Do you think Nikon will come up with something to have real longer range lenses? I remember the 70-200 was more of a 90-135 for some reason but I don't remember exactly why, that's a shame for a professional camera...I mean, why buying a 70-200 if you're missing 80mm or more? That was quite surprising for Nikon's flagship, it outperforms Canon in everything else.
AndreCorner Some will accept the compromise. Remember that the lens behaves that way at minimum focus distance. So if you always shoot your subjects from 4.6 feet then I would suggest skipping it dpending on which camera. I'm sure you could crop a D810 file and still have plenty of image quality. But for sports and action for which the lens was built for, then it's among the best. My personal preference would be without the focus breathing but it doesn't affect my style of photography.
Marc Bernard Thanks for the insight Marc :) the fact is I'm an hobbyst now so I need the camera for "everything"(even though I love portraiture and I shoot a lot of motorbikes like Superbike and World Motocross) to learn.
Well, I liked my Tamron 70-200 vc so much that I ordered the Tamron 24-70. The VC and focus along with price with rebate made the decision pretty easy. Wasn't easy to go away from Nikon lenses, but not a pro either.
Hi Tony, Thanks for the great video, I really enjoyed it. Just a question: I have a D7000 and I also have the Nikon lens 50 1.8 and I was planning to get either Nikon 24-70 or Tamron 24-70. I need it for portrait and landscape also. What do you recommend me to get?
Thanks Tony, good info. I am kind of blown away by how good your video quality is. Can I ask what camera and lens you're using. I actually experimented with a Canon C100 and a Tamron lens, and didn't get near as clear an image as you're getting on your videos here. Even with my Canon 24-70, I had problems with soft focus. PS-just bought your book.
May we have a comparison of the Nikon 70-200 VR II vs the Tamron 70-200 VC on the D810. I've been hearing that Nikon has the focus breathing problem on the D810. I just switched system and bought the D810 with Tamron 24-70 VC and 85 1.4G. Now time to purchase a 70-200 f/2.8.
Hi Tony, (the 24-70 struggle) Currently I am in the process of buying the new Nikon D750 (Coming from the older Canon 50D) And I am really struggling on which of the two 24-70 to buy (Nikon or Tamron) When checking DXO mark they have about the same rate (I took the test on the D600 for comparison since the D750 tests are not yet available). Here in the Netherlands Nikon currently has a cashback offer. With that cashback offer the difference between those two lenses is about 330DOLLAR US. I will use the D750 more for photography then filming. My photography preferences go out to landscapes, portraits and food pictures (mostly indoor). So is the Nikkon worth considering for the extra 330US? Because after seeing your video I am a little conserned about shooting wide open with the Nikkon since it is not so sharp as the Tamron wide open but then again the Tamron has more vignetting wide open. Thanks in advance :)
vincenze fen I really just try to provide the information so you can make the decision. The Tamron is sharper and cheaper, and the focus breathing won't matter for landscapes, so for me, I chose the Tamron.
Thanks Tony, however I do think I need to test the lens very good since I do hear a lot of people getting bad copies. And that the build quality is not up to par (front elements falling off, etc.) Especially since the D750 is a new camera, so hopefully the communication between camera and lens is perfect. I'm not looking for communication errors, etc.
Tony help me, I have 1000 dollars for a 24-70mm f2.8 lens and I can get an old Canon 24-70mm l but not a mark ii in that focal length, also I could do a sigma or take on in that focal length. so which one should I get for fashion photography
Tony- I'm seriously considering the Tamron 24-70/2.8 for my Canon 6D. I have heard some horror stories about the lens though, especially with regard to the IS. I've heard that one some cameras (5d3 for example) the IS can react badly to the shutter at around 1/100-1/160 and end up making your photo look doubled or seriously motion blurred. Have you encountered such an issue, and/or is there a way you could test that?
Comparing DxOMark detailed specs, the Tamron is impressive, smaller, lighter, and cheaper. Focus breathing aside, the Tamron seems to be less weather-sealed. On dpreview.com, user report that when shooting in moist environments, especially landscapes, the Tamron can retain moisture.I am considering a purchase one of them. VR is very impressive though.Any thoughts?
Tony, there is ONE huge problem in this review, you have not tested the sharpness on the long end. I would like to see if the tamrom is sharper than the nikon at 70mm wide open and stopped down.
Great Job you guys. The TAMARON is worth every cent. The lens flare and maximum focus distance issues are very small compared to what TAMARON is offering for the price.
I'm going to purchase a D810 I will probably take more landscape pictures an pictures of the grand kids so I was wondering if the Nikon or the tamron 24-70. 2.8. VR Witch would be the best lens
from the video the nikon looked a little sharper at f8. the nikon looks really of at 2.8 did you guys check the af for front or back focus? how's the af on the tamron?
How would you feel about using the Tamron 24-70 on a D7100 in conjunction with the Tamron 70-200? Or would I be better off with a 17-50mm or the Sigma 17-70?
Tony simple question. For low light photos as set Full Frame Tamron 24-70 f2.8+d750 or 30% cheaper APS-C sigma 18-35 f1.8+d7200? it will be used only indoors for private events. I am not pro and I don't plan to be. I simply want to get max performance/$. What do You think?
+Lukasz W in this combination, you get about the same lowlightperformance and really, the difference between apsc and fullframe doesnt even shine too much in situations where you have to stop down anyway, but id go for fullframe. and add some nice 1.4 lens as well. and a speedlight for sure.
+Joshua Mack besides that, people use full frame lenses on apsc, which isnt optimal, therefore full frame cameras, with full frame lenese are way sharper. Sigma is introducing some good lenses for apsc :)
Stephan Eilert I dont totally agree. my 24mp apsc should just be very demanding to lens sharpness. theres no general rule that a fullframe lens is bad on apsc, but a lens that manages only 22mp on a canon fullframe wont manage 24 on apsc. Nothing wrong with apsc, but fullframe would be my choice if id have the money. While i dont feel limited much except very, very high iso and wideangle bokeh. the sigma 18-35 is sooo expensive. thats why id go fullframe for that money. the strong point of apsc is reach and high fps (for less than 4000 bucks...)
+Joshua Mack full frame lenses are sharper on full frame cameras, doesnt mean they arent sharp on apsc. I have an apsc and all my lenses are full frame, but I will be just ready for my jump I will not regret it :D 7d mk II and D7200 and D500 are awesome, they wont be far behind full frames, except maybe in low light, but meh.
📚 Nikon 24-70 on Amazon: help.tc/n70
📚 Tamron 24-70 on Amazon: help.tc/t70
Tony & Chelsea Northrup Hey what's up am about to buy nikon D850 is tamron a good lens for it
The link you posted for Nikon 24-70mm lens doesn't goto Nikon 24-70mm lens on Amazon.
As long as you buy anything from the links, they are fine.
I got the Tamron 24-70, based mainly on this video, and it was a great choice! Thank you.
I just purchased the D750 and will be including this lens with it. Thank you for the video!
I have this lens for my D7200 and absolutely love the image quality I get out of it (most of the time)... I've had the lens for two months now and have shot 2000+ images with it. That said, I did just do a shoot with low natural light shooting at slower shutter speeds and noticed I have an issue with the VC in my lens. Starting at 1/200th of a second (very apparent at 1/125th down) and slower the images are actually sharper with the VC off rather than on. This also happened with a brand new 24-70 that my local camera shop had as well as with Tamron's new 45mm 1.8. I just returned the 45mm since it was still in the return window and have sent the 24-70 in for warranty repair. We'll see if they fix the issue.
I suggest that if you get this lens (or any Tamron VC lens for that matter), you immediately find yourself a brick wall, stand 8-12 ft away, shoot it in Aperture Priority at f/8 with the VC turned on and walk your shutter speed down from 1/1000th to 1/60th and see if you notice any soft images. Here's a link to a google drive folder where you can visually see what I am talking about.
drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4FGnwswPW_VRkNicVhZT1U1WVk&usp=sharing
Tony, when doing lens reviews don't you think you should use a tripod for the photos where VR is not in the equation? I particularly felt this from your focus breathing test while trying to stand in the same spot. Yes, you are probably right that tamron focal length is not calibrated as accurately as nikon but the amount could be made marginally better or worse due to body movement in your experiment. I think experimental parts of the review should be as scientific as possible.
You can't go wrong with either lens. They both great, I own a Nikkor 24-70, and try out the Tammy 24-70, they do step up their game big time
Really love these type of videos. Would you guys be able to make a playlist containing all the lens comparisons you have done so far?
WOW, you guys went nuts on the camera angles and editing of this one. NICE WORK!!!
I've got the Tamron lens on my D800E and I love it! Only thing though is that the moving part of the lens actually wobbles a bit and makes a bunch of thudding noises and when I move it with my hand while the camera is in live view, I notice the black corners actually move around (but very little) too. But other than that, highly recommend the Tamron if you want to save a bit of money.
I'm Looking for a nice 50mm too and looking to just go for the little cheap Nikkor 50mm f/1.8D. Maybe when I'm free :)
The Tamron 24-70 will be my next lens! I have the Tamron 70-200 2.8. I love it!!! $1000 less than the Nikon, with better quality! Thanks Tony and Chelsea (and Danny D.) for the great review. You guys are the best!
Many people upgrade to these pro-grade lenses to get sharper images, not at the center of the frame, but towards the corners. It's a bit surprising that you don't compare off-center sharpness. Choosing a scene with lots of moving subjects for testing low shutter speed image sharpness is also a bit awkward. Bokeh quality comparison would have been a great addition as well.
The Tamron is a fantastic lens. For people photography, sharpness in the corners isn't much of an issue, in my experience. At shorter focal lengths, you avoid your subject to be in the corners because of distortion. Towards 70, it may be an issue.
Bokeh... That's a purely subjective thing. If you want, go to the Flickr group and look through some images taken with the lens. I personally find the bokeh of the Tamron very pleasing, especially if the out of focus background is greenery with some patches of sunlight. It's just beautiful, IMHO!
Surprised as the G from Nikon should have superb sharpness in the middle compared to most of the lenses, even the new E one... Might be the AF a little off in the asylum photo?Wanna have a lens for a concerts in a bad light and wonder if should I go tamron G2 or Nikon G in that AF consistency regard... Of course VR would be welcome for convenient landscape photos, but can have tripod with me...
Hello Tony and Chelsea. I like your reviews. But I am a bit irritated about your comments on focus breathing and magnification. Tamron stated in their specs that the maximum magnification of the 24-70 f2.8 is 1:5 while the Nikon offers 1:3,7. Taking into account the same focus distance it should be pretty clear that there has to be a difference and the Tamron is certainly more wide angle. Around ~25 % more to be precise. So your result just confirms the technical specification.
Ralf O Focus breathing and magnification aren't necessarily related. Focal length at close distances is an important factor for many photographers, so we always test and disclose it.
Tony Northrup Indeed, Nikon Micro-Nikkor lenses have this "feature". The 60mm lens is not too bad (actual focal length 55mm) but the 105mm is about 78mm) and the 200mm Micro-Nikkor is just 125mm when the magnification is 1:1.
In the sharpness test with the cone shaped tiled roof the tiled seemed to have better contrast and slightly better sharpness to me. Minor detail. Nice video.
I just bought a used Tamron 24-70 on eBay for
I have a few lenses now in my collection my latest addition was the Tamron 24-70 I love it and it's my go to Lense if I'm forced to just take one with me. Yes the price is still over 1k but it's worth it. You won't be disappointed.
Tamron's focus breathing is not a big a deal. Its sharper. It has better vibration reduction etc. And is cheaper than Nikon.
That focus breathing thing was neat, never expected to see such a difference.
This is interesting. I need to shoot wide open because I do low light concert photography, might have to go for Tamron
From my eye when you stop down the Nikon to F8 it becomes noticeably sharper in the Tamron.. I'm i the only one who noticed that?
Me too :D
looked the same to me as well
It looked slightly sharper to me but I'd need to see the actual files to see as it could be just contrast. Tamron looked a LOT sharper wide open.
Yeah, I would definitely give the Tamron a go. The colour and contrast is fine. Slight flare is acceptable.
I don't really like this range so saving $600 for another lens sounds great to me. Great lens to shoot events in dark places.
Tamron is a bit tad sharper at f8 to me than the Nikon. But it is almost unnoticeable.
I was going to get a 50mm prime lens. However, I have made my decision to get the 24-70mm Tamron. Yours and +Matt Granger was the final "snapshot" I needed to complete my "series" as I have been researching like mad to figure out my next lens. Being that I am going into the portrait realm of photography, this lens seems like the best bang for buck in comparison to everything else I have looked at for my D5300. I know realize it is a cropped sensor but it's also a pro lens, and I need that for the next level for when I do get a full frame body.
We can't all buy $1.5k lenses. So this will be a stellar investment being I'm buying used and looking forward to the long haul.
Thanks again for a thorough review of this lens, and I will continue watching viewing your channel for future additions.
i bought the Tamron and love it! Love this video and everything you two do!
Im 16 and just got the tamron 24-70 2.8 for my 13k actuation d600. Its amazing
Tony, you ditched the Golden Dome for Burnt Orange. This is a problem. Beyond that, another great review. You guys are one of the only shutterbugs on net that INSIST on comparing apples to apples. Most reviewers choose to gloss over focus breathing, full-frame/crop lens aperture differences, etc but you don't drink the propaganda or bath water. You cant argue mathematics. Price is a different metric and Im glad you always separate the price argument from the performance argument until its relevant to the discussion.
Great video as always - thanks!
One thing I would have liked was a comment on the real world implications of the focus breathing. I understand the issue, but how bad is it for e.g. portrait use in a real world scenario?
Usually I would prefer to be at least 1.5-2 meters (5-7 ft) from my subject in order to prevent those crazy "big-nose" distortions, and it would be interesting to know how much of an issue the focus breathing is at that distance? Is the effective focal length still significantly shorter?
You mentioned an effective focal lenght of 64 mm (I think it was) when doing the VR test - was that shot at the 70 mm mark on the Tamron?
Great video. Thank you. Question do you have an opinion between Tamron 28-75 vs Tamron 24-70? Which performs better
Hello tony. I have a nikon d800 and I need to do a 24-70, but I'm undecided between Nikon & Tamron, given your experience in photography, can you tell me if it worths to buy it, since you've tried what you advise me.
With the purpose is used for marriage and so on.
Love all your videos. Do you think the Tamron 24-70 is still a good lens in 2019, a bargain at less then $500? Thank you
"The Tamron is definitely not 70mm. It's something..(pause)..shorter". Love the Carl Sagan / William Shatner pauses Tony 😀. Kidding aside, keep up the good work. Your knowledge keeps us dedicated enthusiasts informed. Thanks for all you and Chelsea do.
I found a usedTamron 24-70mm and have been using it on a classic Nikon D750 with great results! However, I also have an older DX camera and wondering if I will lose image quality
using this lens on the DX crop sensor....your thoughts?!
Nice concise comparison. Now let's see the Tamron 24-70 VC vs the Canon 24-70L II
Tony,
Great review! If you had to choose between the Tamron 24-70 or the 70-200 lens for portraits, weddings, etc which one would you rather have? Thanks!
+ziphoticus1970 I prefer the 24-70 for portraits, for me, the 70-200 is big and heavy, not something I want to haul around all day. Also, I'm rarely that far away from my subjects to need it. If you are shooting outdoors and can't get say within 10- 20 feet of your subject go big. I also favor the big primes 85mm and 105mm for portraits. On my DX, I use a 35mm and 50 mm 1.8. most of the time. That all said, and it's just my experience and I'm certainly not a seasoned pro, my advice would be to rent both lenses and take a few days to shoot with them both, then make your decision. I rented a 70-200 for a shoot and liked it, but not enough to fork over about 2K for one!
I'm still undecided between the 2, but sharpness is the only thing I care about. You said a few times that the Tamron is a bit sharper, but Cameralabs did a real-world comparison and showed that the Nikon was way sharper, especially on the corners?
+Herp McDerpington
I have seen people test several copies of one particular
model lens and find them quite different. I also head people talk about the
very good sharpness of the Nikon, but I cannot compare the Tamron and the
Nikon, simply because I don’t have access to the Nikon.
I am very happy with the Tamron. If I had to, I’d replace it
with the same lens.
Anyway, the 24-70 would be my main work horse. I’m into people
photography, so it is often rather the expression of the subject, or the moment
I try to capture. There is a bit of vignetting, which doesn’t bother me. I
certainly cannot complain about lack of sharpness of the Tamron.
Looked like a lot of vignetting on the Tamron in the shots against the sun. Did you forget to mention it? :D
Probably cuz that is usually something that is easily fixable in post production: => PS ;)
@@luiscruz5082 And not to mention that Nikon can make in-camera adjustments for vignetting but cannot for Tamron.
Videos I would like to see in the future from you guys: Tamron 24-70mm f2.8 vs Sigma 24-105mm f4.
Also: Data management. How do you organize and store the many many GBs you get from shooting a lot ?
What harddrives, cloud services etc. do you use how do you manage everything.
Love your videos and books !
fetze Good suggestions, I'll put them on the list. Re: Tamron vs Sigma, I use the Tamron for events (like a wedding reception) where I need the extra stop. For everything else, I prefer the Sigma. We mostly just use the Sigma.
For data, I just keep buying the biggest USB 3 hard drives, filling them up, making an extra copy, and storing it off-site. No cloud service is affordable, and there's not enough bandwidth for all our data.
Thanks for that thorough explanation of focus breathing.
Kevin Good when he was working with the "WOMP" channel agreed that in the lineup of Canon, Nikon, Tamron and Sigma.
Tamron's 24-70 2.8 just straight out out performed the others in very important categories. Its an amazing lens at that price compared to the competition.
Do you think Sigma will come out with an Art version of the 24-70 and 70-200 with OS?
yes they will, but the question is when, and not sure if the 24/70 will have IS, but maybe it will be even faster then f2.8, but i'm more looking forward to the new 85 f1.4 ART witch I think might be out before the zooms, but I could be wrong
I think you are right about the 85
I heard rumor that Sigma's art version of the 24-70 may actually be an F/2 lens and will have OS.. That would be a very serious contender if the price is right
First of all, holy moly... so much objective evaluation crammed into 7-something minutes. wow.. THANK YOU, Tony & Chelsea! No,w quick question... Could you advise as to what the focus breathing behavior of the Tamron is as one moves farther and farther away from the minimum focusing distance? meaning, is it a constant variance from true 70mm up to a certain point and then BAM, 70mm is 70mm(on/off)? or is it gradual...diff between true 70mm and delivered 70mm gradually decreases until you get far enough away for 70mm to be 70mm?
Hey, which strap did you use in this video, it looks like a seatbelt from a car.
Wow, The low light performance from the Tamron is shockingly good!
I would love to see an update of this video with the Tamron VC compared to the Tamron G2 ;)
I respect this review but I will still go with the Nikon 24-70mm. Ihave seen all the DXO Mark test as well as other sites. The final choice for me is "resale" value. The Tamron doesn't have much of a resale value as compared to the Nikon. So in the end if I decide I made a mistake trying to become a pro photographer, I know I will get about a 3/4 return on my dollar with the Nikon. Again, great video but I think the point I mentioned should be factored in.
jason24cf This is a good point--the Tamron loses resale value quickly. I do recommend buying the Tamron used--it's an even better value.
Love it! Picked up the Tamron cause of you guys. Absolutely love it! Great video!
Hi tony. I own both lenses. I got the tamron thinking it would be good for video. But now i use it all the time for photography, it's lighter, sharper and the VC is amazing. One thing though, and its my only but with this lens. Autofocus is slower, and in low light it's even slower and half as accurate,
And nikon is better built. But it is cheaper.
Are both of them good for taking pictures in the cold?
I have the Tamron 18-270mm lens. It never leaves my D 40. I am think of a wide angle lens. And it is tough. Can you do a comparison between Tamron, Sigma or something else. I think remember you saying how sharp the Sigma was even compare to the Canon.. My wide angle would be a 10- 24 mm What do you suggest?
Wouldn't the focus breathing test be better on a tripid? Even if you are standing in the same spot, it is hard to gauge how much you lean forward or back. That being said, I believe you on the Tamron because tests done on the 70-200mm Tamron vs. Nikon, showed the same issue.
Hey Tony. I'm wondering by you mentioning ”there is no significant difference”, while shooting continuous between lenses. Which one focused better? There was some difference right or was there no difference at all? Well did Nikon beat out Tamron or vice versa? What kind of percent?
robert paxton I mean, there was no statistically significant difference. Focusing speed and accuracy seems to be exactly the same.
We tested the D810 vs D610 at the same time, using the same methodology, and did see a statistically significant and predictable difference. So I feel like the test would have shown a difference if there was one.
Tony Northrup Thanks for the clarification and the effort that you are doing! You all are great.
Hello Tony, please can you give me some urgent advice! I cannot decide between the Tamron 24-70 or the 70-200. Each are in my budget at the moment but not both. My primary focus will be studio photography of newborn babies and couple pics standing in front a white screen. My studio will have 3-4 meters of movement. I also want to shoot outdoor stuff like weddings and sports. Which one would you pick for my current situation? Thank you!
Awesome comparison, you guys are the best photo channel with the best content. I was just thinking if the extra bucks are worthed ? But i dont think so.
Tony, I'm so conflicted as what to get as my next camera. I'm debating whether or not to get the D610 or D750 as well as the Tamron 24-70 or the Nikon 24-70. All your videos make them all good. In your professional opinion, what would you recommend?
+Shaun Vent (ShaunV) depends what your lens you have already. I would chose a D610, cheaper, basically same sensor. Unless you NEED something extra from D750, just chose D610.
+Shaun Vent (ShaunV)
Yep, like Stephan said, same sensor. But d750 has better ISO, better focus, flip screen and wifi. I find these extras extremly helpfull.
You guys seem like some pretty well off photographers :) its nice to see.
Do I understand correctly that the sharpness test you did was only at 24mm?
DxOMark says that at 70mm wide open Nikon is actually is significantly sharper than Tamron.
Also Nikon's AF is appreciably faster than Tamron. I am surprised this did not show in your tests.
Thanks for the video. I wonder how much focus breathing affects if you are not standing at minimum focusing distance but more like head and shoulders distance. And about sharpness at 70mm. I head Nikon got lead there.. is it true?
Trying to choose a zoom for D750.(you guy's and girl ;) should try that camera out, it tops D610 pretty much everywhere in my opinion. Maybe Execpt AWB but since i shoot RAW, it doesnt matter really much.
Thank you!
Hey tony, i'm in the market for a new 24-70 2.8 as my nikon 28-70 2.8 is pretty beat up. I'm shooting weddings so build quality is a major consideration. Stabilization is not much of an issue for me as i'm shooting people the majority of the time (not with a gun that is). What would you suggest?
stephan de laat I'd go for the Nikon; it definitely feels like it'll take more of a beating.
Thanks Tony Northrup! Love youre channel by the way.
Hi Tony, what camera did you use for the video in this video? The video is super sharp...
tokina 28-70 atx pro II 2.8? i cant find any good review for it. i am thinking to buy tamron 24-70 vc but i want to see comparison tamron vs tokina 28-70 atx pro II 2.8 before i decide? pls help
Sorry, we haven't tested it, and Tokina didn't respond to our request for a loaner.
+Tony & Chelsea Northrup if u check yt, it is immposible to find any good review but i found some sites it has good results so it is weird how there is no videos about that lens. I hope u will review it in near future. I love ur videos. Cheers - regards from croatia
Well, I have the Tokina 28-70mm f/2.8 AT-X, and I want to share an interesting observation of this very good lens. First off, it's a very sharp lens, even at corners, and when wide open too. And when using with a DX sensor body, it does not show any distortion at all. However, when using with FX bodies, it has significant barrel distortion. Not a big deal, as it can be corrected in Lightroom, and the distorted parts look sharp too, but this is an interesting observation nonetheless.
By the way, my Tokina 28-70 AT-X is a very old lens, I think, and I procured mine third hand for dirt cheap, like $50. So, I can't complain. But I am not sure if it is the same lens as the Tokina 28-70 AT-X Pro II you mention.
What would you recommend for taking photos of drifting, distance ranging from 5-20 meters? Need good light, fast auto focus and affordable.
tksEngen Oh, the Tamron 24-70 f2.8 is probably the best choice.
Tony like this comparison. Thanks for the review.
Sharp wide open and able to hand hold at crazy low speeds makes me really really want this lens. And it's 900 euro cheaper than the canon (Ireland). Also makes it an interesting choice for video with the VC.
I would think most ppl would rank sharpness high up on their list of what is important. That plus good image stabilization made Tamron the easy choice for me.
Great review for the two lenses especially if people are considering buying a 24-70 and need to think about cost.
What do you think about the nre Nikon 24-70 with VR ? I'd like to see this test done again with all 3 of those lenses when the Nikon VR version is released.
Hey Tony, your videos just rock !!! How would you compare the build quality on the two ? are they both weather sealed ? Thanks !!!
amtraker The Nikon seems to be built better. We brought the Tamron on a hike in Glacier National Park and were caught in a flash flood, torrential rain that destroyed a 5D Mark II and 5D Mark III--but the Tamron survived just fine. But then again, I've never managed to break a lens with rain. We did break a Tamron 24-70 in half once, but it took a pretty good fall.
I'm looking to get a 24-70mm lens for my D810 in the near future. Have you done a comparison between this Tamron 24-70 with VC and the newest version of the Nikon 24-70 with VR? Price difference is $1,299 for the Tamron compared to $2,400 for the Nikon.
So.....no final conclusion as to whether it is worth the extra $1000 to go with Nikon's native 24-70?
Hey tony, about the focus breathing how can you say that nikon is at 70mm and tamron is less? maybe it is the other way around, what if tamron is at 70mm and nikon is at 75?
Sigma and Tamron are the same but Nikon is not, which tells us that Nikon is more than 70mm
Thats right, thats what I was thinking,, its the Nikon that has focus breathng problem
I have just brought the Tamron 24-70 and i just love it,the images are really sharp and the real sweetener for me was i picked it up used only 3 months old for $650 a real bargain
MrDannyr2000 Yeah, I wish I'd mentioned it in the video, but you really should buy the Tamron 24-70 used because those things depreciate like crazy. They're a fantastic value used.
Just bought the How to Create SDP e-book! Thanks for putting out quality information!
***** Thanks, Andrew!
Which focal length was used for the VC test (billiard table test)? Just curious since at 70mm my keeper rate is not so good below 1/15 sec which translates to about 2.5 stops of VC assistance.
Hi Tony and Chelsea
I really want to get some lenses for my photography. I really want the 24-70 mm and 70-200 mm at 2.8 lenses and a 24 mm at 1.4 or 1.8 (should i get this 24 mm?). I don't want to spend the money on a name brand if i don't have to. Which is best for shooting with Nikon equipment. At the moment i shoot with a Nikon D5000. I also have a 35 mm DX at 1.8 and a 50 mm at 1.4. Please help me out and thank you very much.
which lens would you recommend i just purchased a nikon d800 after being with canon for 11 years and i would like to know which lens would be the best for it should i pay more for the nikon or get the tamron? also does the tamron focus as fast as the nikon because i know that the nikon is super fast focusing?
Tony & Chelsea, first of all, thanks for your work. I am wondering if Is it there any way to have a comparition between the old Tamron 24-70 vs the newest Nikon 24-70 VRii as well and a comparision between the old tamron 24-70 vs the newst G2? It isn't been easy for me to finding a quality stuff like this video you guys made. Thanks for sharing with us!
Hi I'm planning to buy one of the lens between Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD and Tokina Fx 24-70mm f2.8 for my Nikon D610. Nikon Fx 24-70mm f2.8 VR is bit too expensive for me. I want a better image quality but VC/VR is equally important for me. I'm a casual photographer and use my camera mainly for travel photography. Currently most of my shots are landscape and some are portraits. I read the DXOMark review on these lens - tokina was rated better for it's sharpness/image quality but lacks vibration control. VC will be useful in the low light/slow shutter condition and videography. I'm not sure how good VC in this Tamron lens. Both lens has consistent wide aperture to take Bokeh and can help me to carry less lens for travel photography. Initially I wanted to buy tokina because reviews says that it has better image sharpness. But it lacks VC so I'm confused. Photography is my hobby but I've a plan to take it to another level. I need suggestions on how much impact these lenses can make on my in camera photo outcome.
When are you trying to G2? Seems a hell of a lens...
Wow, didn't expect that from Tamron. I am starting to think about changing my Nikon 24-70 to Tamron 24-70.
Valters Pelns Yeah, I'd pick it over the Nikon for most scenarios.
Thank you for all yours great review and information, your videos are really helpful for a beginner photographer like i, i have a nikon camera D3200 which coming with 18-55mm kit Lens but i'm not a happy with the image quality and sharpness, i decided to upgrade my lens.
I'm looking for something between 18-300 or 18-200mm max 800€ which lens your recommend for me? Thankyou
Hi there Tony! Quick question, I'm following your channel since a while now and I know you are a "Canon guy"(meaning you used it mostly for a lot).
I saw your D810 review, which happened to be a great comparison with the 5D MKIII that has been outperformed hardly, and even the "Why I want to switch to Nikon but can't" video you uploaded later.
My question is: are you moving more and more into Nikon? This is a Nikon vs Tamron test so my question already is half answered but I wonder, are you actually trying to switch to Nikon right now?
Also, what's your thoughts on the new 7D MkII? I saw a lot of professionals dislike it.
I'm learning all my stuff on a old 20D with a nifty fifty and a Canon 70-300 but I'm finishing a work at my job that will let me upgrade. I originally wanted the 7D since it's said to be one of the best semi-pro Canon has to offer but now I'm really hesitant about it.
I love my 70-3000 but if I'll switch it won't go wasted, this is actually my "family camera" so we won't dumb it and it had the 70-300 as an extra in the first place.
So, with this in mind, would you recommend staying with Canon or should I go with Nikon? This considering the fact I won't have the money to buy the best of the best(MkIII/D810) but I'll have to get the best semi-pro and invest in some quality glass considering that for freelance work I won't need the latest top camera anyway.
Hope you got my point, my english is not the best, thanks in advance!
AndreCorner We're using the D810 for everything in the short range, say, 105mm and under. Above that we still have to go with Canon.
Re: whether you should switch to Nikon, it really depends on your style of photography. I covered some of that in my Canon vs Nikon video, and there's more coverage in my Photography Buying Guide (links in the description).
Tony Northrup
I'll check that both!
Do you think Nikon will come up with something to have real longer range lenses? I remember the 70-200 was more of a 90-135 for some reason but I don't remember exactly why, that's a shame for a professional camera...I mean, why buying a 70-200 if you're missing 80mm or more?
That was quite surprising for Nikon's flagship, it outperforms Canon in everything else.
AndreCorner Some will accept the compromise. Remember that the lens behaves that way at minimum focus distance. So if you always shoot your subjects from 4.6 feet then I would suggest skipping it dpending on which camera. I'm sure you could crop a D810 file and still have plenty of image quality. But for sports and action for which the lens was built for, then it's among the best. My personal preference would be without the focus breathing but it doesn't affect my style of photography.
Marc Bernard
Thanks for the insight Marc :) the fact is I'm an hobbyst now so I need the camera for "everything"(even though I love portraiture and I shoot a lot of motorbikes like Superbike and World Motocross) to learn.
Marc Bernard yea it's really only for tight headshots when you think about.
I am getting on of them for my d610 is the nikon worth it or should i go for the tamron Tony Northrup
I use it on my D610 and I really like it :)
Well, I liked my Tamron 70-200 vc so much that I ordered the Tamron 24-70. The VC and focus along with price with rebate made the decision pretty easy. Wasn't easy to go away from Nikon lenses, but not a pro either.
Hi Tony,
Thanks for the great video, I really enjoyed it. Just a question: I have a D7000 and I also have the Nikon lens 50 1.8 and I was planning to get either Nikon 24-70 or Tamron 24-70. I need it for portrait and landscape also. What do you recommend me to get?
Isn't the first test shot you showed a skewed example? different focal range and shutter speed would both attribute to different images
Which is good for portrait and event shots esp in low/night light?
Thanks Tony, good info. I am kind of blown away by how good your video quality is. Can I ask what camera and lens you're using. I actually experimented with a Canon C100 and a Tamron lens, and didn't get near as clear an image as you're getting on your videos here. Even with my Canon 24-70, I had problems with soft focus. PS-just bought your book.
Colette Baron-Reid Thanks, Colette! We shoot video with GH4s in 4k (plus some GoPros).
Awesome, thank you.
Could you repeat those same test with the camera is attached to a tripod so the human element of hand shake is removed
May we have a comparison of the Nikon 70-200 VR II vs the Tamron 70-200 VC on the D810. I've been hearing that Nikon has the focus breathing problem on the D810.
I just switched system and bought the D810 with Tamron 24-70 VC and 85 1.4G. Now time to purchase a 70-200 f/2.8.
jeejay98 Those two lenses (Tamron/Nikon 70-200) have the same focus breathing problem, and it occurs on any body.
Thanks for the information.
Hi Tony,
(the 24-70 struggle)
Currently I am in the process of buying the new Nikon D750 (Coming from the older Canon 50D) And I am really struggling on which of the two 24-70 to buy (Nikon or Tamron) When checking DXO mark they have about the same rate (I took the test on the D600 for comparison since the D750 tests are not yet available). Here in the Netherlands Nikon currently has a cashback offer. With that cashback offer the difference between those two lenses is about 330DOLLAR US. I will use the D750 more for photography then filming. My photography preferences go out to landscapes, portraits and food pictures (mostly indoor). So is the Nikkon worth considering for the extra 330US? Because after seeing your video I am a little conserned about shooting wide open with the Nikkon since it is not so sharp as the Tamron wide open but then again the Tamron has more vignetting wide open.
Thanks in advance :)
vincenze fen I really just try to provide the information so you can make the decision. The Tamron is sharper and cheaper, and the focus breathing won't matter for landscapes, so for me, I chose the Tamron.
Thanks Tony, however I do think I need to test the lens very good since I do hear a lot of people getting bad copies. And that the build quality is not up to par (front elements falling off, etc.) Especially since the D750 is a new camera, so hopefully the communication between camera and lens is perfect. I'm not looking for communication errors, etc.
Tamron 24-70 compared to Nikon 24-120 f/4 please. Wondering if I should but the D750 with the kit or Nikon Body and the Tamron lens.
I am having the same dilemma right now :)
I use the Nikon D750 with this Tamron lens its a super sharp outfit
Tony help me, I have 1000 dollars for a 24-70mm f2.8 lens and I can get an old Canon 24-70mm l but not a mark ii in that focal length, also I could do a sigma or take on in that focal length. so which one should I get for fashion photography
Tony- I'm seriously considering the Tamron 24-70/2.8 for my Canon 6D. I have heard some horror stories about the lens though, especially with regard to the IS. I've heard that one some cameras (5d3 for example) the IS can react badly to the shutter at around 1/100-1/160 and end up making your photo look doubled or seriously motion blurred. Have you encountered such an issue, and/or is there a way you could test that?
Comparing DxOMark detailed specs, the Tamron is impressive, smaller, lighter, and cheaper. Focus breathing aside, the Tamron seems to be less weather-sealed. On dpreview.com, user report that when shooting in moist environments, especially landscapes, the Tamron can retain moisture.I am considering a purchase one of them. VR is very impressive though.Any thoughts?
Tony, there is ONE huge problem in this review, you have not tested the sharpness on the long end. I would like to see if the tamrom is sharper than the nikon at 70mm wide open and stopped down.
Ricardo Vaz Wide open, the Tamron was sharper at the wide and long end. Stopped down they both looked great.
Great Job you guys. The TAMARON is worth every cent. The lens flare and maximum focus distance issues are very small compared to what TAMARON is offering for the price.
I'm going to purchase a D810 I will probably take more landscape pictures an pictures of the grand kids so I was wondering if the Nikon or the tamron 24-70. 2.8. VR Witch would be the best lens
from the video the nikon looked a little sharper at f8. the nikon looks really of at 2.8 did you guys check the af for front or back focus? how's the af on the tamron?
Awesome review, just what I need to make my buying decision.
How would you feel about using the Tamron 24-70 on a D7100 in conjunction with the Tamron 70-200? Or would I be better off with a 17-50mm or the Sigma 17-70?
Matthieu Cramers I would get the Sigma 18-35 f1.8. th-cam.com/video/ojXW9F1CnfA/w-d-xo.html
Tony Northrup Thank you for your swift and thoughtful response! I will consider that Sigma lens.
What about the tokina 24-70 released in 2015? Have you tested it?
On Tamron not advertising focal length reduction at closest focus, doesn't Nikon do the same thing? The 70-200 is only 130ish mm at close focus.
Tony simple question. For low light photos as set Full Frame Tamron 24-70 f2.8+d750 or 30% cheaper APS-C sigma 18-35 f1.8+d7200? it will be used only indoors for private events. I am not pro and I don't plan to be. I simply want to get max performance/$. What do You think?
+Lukasz W I would choose Full frame :) iso performance is always (as far as I know) better than APSC, since there is more light being gathered.
+Lukasz W in this combination, you get about the same lowlightperformance and really, the difference between apsc and fullframe doesnt even shine too much in situations where you have to stop down anyway, but id go for fullframe. and add some nice 1.4 lens as well. and a speedlight for sure.
+Joshua Mack besides that, people use full frame lenses on apsc, which isnt optimal, therefore full frame cameras, with full frame lenese are way sharper. Sigma is introducing some good lenses for apsc :)
Stephan Eilert I dont totally agree. my 24mp apsc should just be very demanding to lens sharpness. theres no general rule that a fullframe lens is bad on apsc, but a lens that manages only 22mp on a canon fullframe wont manage 24 on apsc.
Nothing wrong with apsc, but fullframe would be my choice if id have the money. While i dont feel limited much except very, very high iso and wideangle bokeh. the sigma 18-35 is sooo expensive. thats why id go fullframe for that money. the strong point of apsc is reach and high fps (for less than 4000 bucks...)
+Joshua Mack full frame lenses are sharper on full frame cameras, doesnt mean they arent sharp on apsc. I have an apsc and all my lenses are full frame, but I will be just ready for my jump I will not regret it :D 7d mk II and D7200 and D500 are awesome, they wont be far behind full frames, except maybe in low light, but meh.
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