Yeah I'm sure they've checked or even put oil in the damn thing and then they wonder why it blows up while their out in the middle of the ocean. Fucking stupid asses. That's why you check all that before you leave the dock.
They didn’t hit anything…..a part blew out from the inside. Still a mfg issue…..However, with thousands of these things being made, there are bound to be a few problems here and there. Nothing that consists of hundreds of parts can be perfect every time. I would still give Yamaha an “A” in outboards. Probably the best on the market.
In the past I have had a Mercury, a Tohatsu, a Yamaha, and currently have an Evinrude I bought 6 years ago.The Yamaha was the only one without issues………That’s enough research for me.,@@wazup3333
I have a hard time believing something from the inside bent the prop like that. Sure looks like they struck something in the water given the damage to the propeller....@@AAE-cg1il
Blew the lower unit on my Suzuki last spring 2 weeks out of warranty, dealer sent the lower unit to Suzuki and turned out faulty bearing. They actually covered it and put a whole new unit on
wazup3333 mines been out of warranty for years. The only “major” issue I’ve had is the fuel pump go out, but it actually turned out to be a collapsed fuel line that was causing fuel restriction. Ended up replacing the fuel pump anyway because it was already apart and I chalked it up to “preventative maintenance”.
I had these engines for 4 years, ran them hard for 420 hours, they never missed a beat. The 300s are usually rock solid, the 350s I always see getting fixed.
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Nice video gents. .good to see guys having fun and getting along...btw...i got a 25 Johnson on a 16' aluminum bass boat. Use to do 20mph but my son grew up and I got fatter...now we're pushing 14mph!!!!
Those lower ends are sacrificial pieces, they're designed to basically 'self destruct' to save the rest of the engine in the event you hit something at high speed. I've done something similar 2x, once on a 37 Outrage Whaler at 45kts with the middle engine, and again on a 31 Everglades on the starboard engine, both times it did it's job and saved the rest of the engine from major damage. Both times also happened to be Mola Mola that we whacked, those beasts are hard to see when the bow is up!
My Yamaha 350s have a lifetime warranty. Yamaha gave the first batch of 350s a lifetime warranty because they didn't want any bad pr for their new halo motor. I'll never sell my 32 Contender because of it.
Guys, next time you go fishing,make sure you check compression level in the main reservoir.if comprensión levells below the lower line and you are coming out of the marina like that,it's a sure case of a Blown motor.and that's exactly what happens! So remember: check comprensión fluid levels before leaving the marina!
I am going to guess no they were just talking about this and that like oh my. I am going to guess water flow stopped and they are now going to have to get a completely new motor.
I am going to guess no they were just talking about this and that like oh my. I am going to guess water flow stopped and they are now going to have to get a completely new motor.
I’m a 15 year old schooling boat mechanic and all I have to say u need a new lower unit and maybe a crank shaft if it wasn’t bent that’s not 30k it’s more like 2k with the lower unit and the time it takes to put it back on it’s a easy fix just needs a new lower unit let’s hope!
That is really cool, but everything mechanical CAN and WILL fail, even a 454 or 383 Stroker or 350 or whatever (I'm a big Chevy guy.) If I'm going offshore, I don't care if it's a motor god built himself.. there better be two. One for backup because again, engines fail.
You need two engines if the boat is to big for one engine to get it up on plane and some people just like to have a back up if one blows “like in this video” and one 300 hp motor will not get that boat up on plane with all that weight. Next time u comment do a little research and get some knowledge! Bihh
@SaltyDadok so do u mean under a year old they more likely to fail?. yee only live once there olde sawlty dawg ( oh salty dad ). I better make my single engine buy a wise choice then aye . Cheers m8
I’m a boat mechanic so I think I know what I’m talking about and been fishing for all my life on a boat and have been a mate on various boats so and it’s a Yamaha that’s why it’s almost up on plane with one engine
wolfe fishes funny you should say that about research. That boat will plane with one 300. The reason for dual engines is two fold. One is for safety, if one goes you have one to make it back. The other reason is two motors will push that boat easier than one. They will turn lest rpm and get better fuel economy than one. Over time those motors should last longer
Glacier Bay 2680 Cat with Yamaha 150 4 strokes. In the Pacific weather permitting cruise between 20 and 30 knots, 3000 to 4500 rpms. Treat them good and they will treat you good.
Being the port engine, it’s probably the counter rotator, which have a extra cog in the lower unit, to reverse the direction of final drive, so the prop spins opposite way to the starboard engine prop. It looks like it spat that extra cog out through the lower unit gear casing. That suggests maybe there was no oil in that lower unit! You’d expect with HP 80/90 gear oil to have seen a pretty big oil plume on the water where the engine went boom. I didn’t see that, which makes me question, did the mechanic servicing the motor maybe forget to top off that lower unit with gear oil? Pretty unusual to blow a lower unit in under 12 months on a new Yamaha OB like that without there being a causal factor like no oil. OMMV.
Hey fishing line could do it, I’ve picked up a whole ton of braid and didn’t even feel it until I saw the inside of the prop covered in chocolate milk.
Agree....plus for 200HP engines and above that are less than 12 months old.....you really need to spend AT LEAST a year breaking them in.....GENTLY. Yamaha will cover this........yes I am a Yamaha dealer.
i tought the same. Even when they lifted the engine up no oil on the water at all. I have let a few drops of oil hit the water and that was very visible allready. Imagine dumping 2quarts? of oil in there. And even when there is prettymuch no oil left, if you tilt it like that there wil stil be coming oil out of there. So i think you might be right, it might have run without oil
Okay, I have to comment. First of all there is a lot of anti Yamaha in this video and in the comments. If you know of a lower unit that wont go out then I would love to know about it. This isnt really a reflection of Yamaha since this happens with all of them. I still think something was hit, but even if it wasn't that's the ways she goes sometimes. I've ran a lot of outboards of various make and model and the only unit I've ever had go without hitting something was a left hand rotation unit and that happened on both a Mercury and a Yamaha to me. 75 percent of my hours are on Yamaha. I have maybe 15,000 (30,000 really since there are usually 2) hours, so not as much as some of you guys but enough to know that these outboard issues are pretty much universal. I will give mercury the nod for sweetest outboards these days if iam forced to answer, but Yamaha makes a hell of a durable product for sure.
I have twin 2005 Mercury Verado 250 Supercharged V6 four strokes on the back of my 2005 30' Boston Whaler and my engines run like they're brand new even though they have 1408 hours a piece on them!
ultimatejay that’s what I thought too. That hull must be way heavier than it looks as they said were only limping along on 1 motor or maybe just took it easy so motor 2 didn’t fail in a similar fashion. MAGA
But one of the biggest points for two engines is redundancy. If you're 25+ miles off shore, VHF's don't have great range, if your radio does work you'll be waiting hours for towing, and EPIRB response is at minimum 3-6 hours after the plane spots you. Having a single engine offshore just isn't very comfortable. Albeit they weren't very far but it's still a factor.
sailorkid94 I do agree, but there are a lot of single engine commercial boats in the Northeast Canyons. Up here there are people in 20’ single screws fishing 20 miles off.
Seriously if Yamaha was smart they'd pay you to remove this video.Once this thing goes viral it'll stain everyone's brain. It's unfortunate but this video will affect the 425 hp outboard sales Why ? Because perception is everything. No one wants to be the fool who spent thousands of dollars on some duds
less than 1 year old Yamaha rebuilt my 115 Johnson in 2003 I still run the crap out of it runs awesome for only four hundred bucks. $30,000 I'll keep my Johnson
@@shawnp8429 Used to be when they were manufactured by OMC ,nothing wrong with them-i would take one over a "high performance" Mercury ANY day.....plenty of old Evinrudes and Johnsons around still in use.........how many old Mercurys or other outboards do you see??................not many
Bought and restored a four Winns 258 vista. Rebuilt the Volvo penta in her and cranked it to 400horse. (325stock.). We have a place in the thousand islands...anyway in her maiden voyage after rebuilding the engine, I sucked up a plastic garbage bag in my intake. Completely destroyed my engine with a cracked block that quick. $5500 in parts down the drain in 3 mins.
I know a couple guys that had the same exact thing happen. One 653 Detroit and a 12v 71 Detroit. the 12 cyl. was on a friggin million dollar Post. I was in the same marina and man that dude was straight freaking pissed. I don't know weather he rebuilt or replaced, what BS thing to happen.
I've had experience with the 250s commercially, had constant problems, had to replace a power head on one motor and gearbox on the other. These outboards just aren't what they used to be. And I looked after the motors very well too.
I thought maybe you guys were Drug runners and forgot about the Kilo stuffed in the Engine ! Good call on limping back to port . Dam it my phone is dying ! Dam it Trump 😂
You can't take a kayak 20 miles offshore, I wouldn't want to deal with any kind of weather in one either. I do agree that a yak is considerably cheaper to maintain.
Torch TV tow coverage usually doesn’t cover anything over 20 miles out and tow coverage won’t help you if your single motor dies during a storm and you need to keep moving to survive.
We had Yamaha's on our work boats in Venice. I didn't care for them. If I wouldn't have had dual 225's I would be dead. Honda or Suzuki is the way to go for commercial use.
Watching this video , and I started "steaming" a little about the Trump Joke! (Nearly didn't watch the rest of it because of that ONE little thing!). Glad I finished watching the rest of it, though ! ! ! (AND... You must have gotten a lot of "Flack" over it, so I won't "Beat a Dead Dog"). Haha! I watch every one of your videos, and try to learn from them. Thanks for making them, and I look forward to more.
In Finland we have a saying "Yamaha ei pamaha" in english it means Yamaha doesnt blow, and the times our yamaha snowmobile had boomed like pew pew pew boom xD
I've only seen one other do this and it was brought on by incorrect shift cable throw causing the shifting dog collar to pop out and back in under forward power, splitting the shifting dog into 2 pieces and blowing out the side of the lower unit.
At least, with two engines, they could still get back to shore. If a single large engine fails, you're "dead in the water". You ALWAYS want an alternate means of propulsion, especially, in a boat like that, that's too big to paddle. Having more than one engine is the ideal solution.
Too bad that happened....... hope it's under warranty! As soon as I heard the Trump joke I knew you were fans of his....... yup, Trump gets blamed for EVERTHING!!! MAGA!!!!!!! Thanks for video..... Trump 2020!
No planetary gears in the lower unit. Just fixed-axis bevel gears... Hopefully it was an internal failure. An external hit would probably not be covered by the warranty. Even if the LU is replaced, a failure like this can do hidden damage to the powerhead. It's rotten luck anyway you cut it.
Blowing an engine (of a dual engine setup) is the worst part of off shore fishing. I could think of a couple more issues that could be classified as worst part of off shore fishing
I don't understand all the smoke coming out, something had to be was very hot in the final drive before it broke the casing, so either no lube, or something way too tight to get it that hot.
At least you had a second engine to get you home! My MerCruiser 260hp shit itself after a rwc blockage 42 km south west of Portland, Victoria, Australia. It was a long tow back by the Coast Guard. Anyway, at least I now have a new 300hp 6.2litre MerCruiser. Work sux, I'd rather be fishing....
This is exactly why I'll never go offshore without at least 2 on the rear.. If one shits out like this one, you have backup. And.. this is why you go offshore with Mercury's on the rear.......
I personally have 100% coverage for this kind of accident. My motor isn't a 30K but it cost 4,500.00 for E-Tec 30HP man outboards are expensive but I have a 10 year warrantee.
My 115 4 stroke yamaha with about 50 on it let me sown yesterday as it went dead during blast off and would not restart. thankfully it is still in warrenty
I'm just wondering why you couldn't continue your fishing trip on the one good engine and just keep the bad one tilted up out of the water. Is it a safety issue to not be out in the ocean with just one outboard?
Svein Hanssen Why does one need to go fast while fishing? Aren't you normally sitting still when you're fishing? I understand the boat would be a lot slower to get back to dock but I still don't see why we stopped you from actually fishing.
It's not a preformance thing.... You loose one and don't call it a day then you run the odd chance of loosing two... it's not worth it if you run twins and have one fail you got one to get home not to keep fishing imho.
Wicked Reelz Definitely understand that would be a good reason to head home. As they say Two is One.. and One is None. It's that way out where I live people that are off grid you always have an extra of something, because you know when you only have one it's going to break when you most need it.
August 1st coming back form the Jr. Angler tournament 6 miles outside the Pensacola Pass and my Yamaha 300 DID blow a rod THROUGH the head and the side of the block. Only has 227 hours on its warranty expired last year. SMDH. No more Yamahas for me! DONE.
in louisiana we still fish and worry later. I blew the engine in my truck going fishing pulled over got a ride home got my other truck drove back picked up the boat left the truck and went fishing
$30K?! I'm sorry, that's total BS, there is not $30K's worth of engineering or product there, what the hell, is this what outboards now cost?! Maybe for both but F that, if this is what it costs then boating has become an grossly inflated activity/hobby...
When I was a kid this happened to my dad's friends boat he just pulled it out the water and used one motor didn't let it ruin our day but it's funny because it's the same engine
i think that the mechanic might have forgotten to replace the oil or the gearbox may have had a leak that was not totally visible where the oil slowly leaked out as you drove. i had a blown gearbox before when my mechanic forgot to replace the oil after changing it and after just 10 min of cruising, the gearbox blew...
This video is the nail in the coffin for me when it comes to buying new bigger Yamaha's .I'm going Verado or Suzuki when I repower. Now it makes sense why Yamaha doesn't have motors available. THEY KNOW THEY HAVE PROBLEMS SO THEY DON'T PUT THEM TO MARKET !
100% agree love my 2012 ETec (BRP) not really the evinrude we grew up with but it runs flawless knock on wood and i would have no problem owning a Yamaha or Merc Suz or even a Honda if i was buying used but New i did go with the Etec and do not regret
You paid too much for your Yams to begin with. Should have gone with the Suzuki 300’s. I’ve seen some with 10,000 commercial hours with no major issues When you reengine that’s the way to go. Stay away from the 350’s. Too loud and poor fuel economy despite the reduced rpms.
Seeing how everyone is guessing beyond the info given in video I may as well, Lower unit went out, hmmm most likely braided line cut through seal letting saltwater in and gear case lube out, causing unit to cease up. Whit smoke nothing to do with motor its self and no reason for gear case in lower unit to break if it's the motor. New lower end and go fishing. Take prop off in future and check, it will save money. Captain Tim
Hate to say it but.......a bad day on the water beats a good day at work. My first boat had an mercruiser inboard/outboard motor 140, I swear that boat was allergic to water. I own a 24 ft. Yamaha SX240 HO twin engine jet boat now.
saw a lot of lower unit trouble Yamaha. Shafts are too soft, not hard. IDK why they not perfect this issue. The new Evinrude's I did not like at first, but the new Space age looking motors rock. Suzuki, Yamaha and Mercury to stand up to them bad boys
Shift link. Did the same thing on my last Yamaha. 1985 70hp. They use th e same setup. Odds are the shift pen slide out and clipped the pinion gear. It happens. On my new f115 I get the lower checked every spring.
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I love how they went right to blaming Yamaha lmao and everyone when it was user error as it always is .
Yeah I'm sure they've checked or even put oil in the damn thing and then they wonder why it blows up while their out in the middle of the ocean. Fucking stupid asses. That's why you check all that before you leave the dock.
They didn’t hit anything…..a part blew out from the inside. Still a mfg issue…..However, with thousands of these things being made, there are bound to be a few problems here and there. Nothing that consists of hundreds of parts can be perfect every time. I would still give Yamaha an “A” in outboards. Probably the best on the market.
@@AAE-cg1ilactually the worst on the market, do more research on Yamaha corrosion problems theyre awful
In the past I have had a Mercury, a Tohatsu, a Yamaha, and currently have an Evinrude I bought 6 years ago.The Yamaha was the only one without issues………That’s enough research for me.,@@wazup3333
I have a hard time believing something from the inside bent the prop like that. Sure looks like they struck something in the water given the damage to the propeller....@@AAE-cg1il
I have that exact engine right now. 0 hours, still crated, full factory warranty. Bring me 30k and its yours.
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"Worst part of off-shore fishing" is seeing the shore when you are fishing.
4 joke junk go bank! I love it!
That’s the worst part about working offshore.....at about day 13
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@@Dake-gw6it No, thats way too early
Blew the lower unit on my Suzuki last spring 2 weeks out of warranty, dealer sent the lower unit to Suzuki and turned out faulty bearing. They actually covered it and put a whole new unit on
Wasup Fool that’s why I love Suzuki. Yamaha is good too, but personally I love Suzuki.
@@cats400 thats why you'll hate them when your motor goes out of warranty
wazup3333 mines been out of warranty for years. The only “major” issue I’ve had is the fuel pump go out, but it actually turned out to be a collapsed fuel line that was causing fuel restriction. Ended up replacing the fuel pump anyway because it was already apart and I chalked it up to “preventative maintenance”.
My favorite is Evinrude.
@@davidperry4013 don't want to be the one that brings bad news but as of 27th of May 2020 BRP discontinued the evinrude e tec and e tec g2 outboards
I had these engines for 4 years, ran them hard for 420 hours, they never missed a beat. The 300s are usually rock solid, the 350s I always see getting fixed.
Guys we are not President Trump haters! That was a joke and sarcasm, so it means the opposite of the joke lol! Its based on that the "premise" he gets blamed for everything lol. Please do not be so sensitive. If you have watched this channel long you know I am a Veteran and stand for the military, the 2nd amendment and the Red, White and Blue. I literally have a 40 mm shell on my desk. Merica!
Anyone who is a Trump supporter should recognize that was sarcasm. The man gets blamed for just about anything the left can think of...lol As a Trump fan, we use the same joke at our house. Not to worry.
How did that come across as anything BUT sarcasm?
Trump is king d when it comes to the blame game ya trumptards . Flicking idiots !
Yak, glad you cleared that up. It really ticks me off when people constantly attack President Trump.
It’s obvious you were being sarcastic. Lol. Obviously Putin hacked your lower unit. 😂😂😂
the official Yamaha dealership in Korea.
The excellence of Yamaha's outboard is recognized by everyone in Korea.
Apparently they have missed all the issues of the F350 with cracked blocks, broken cranks and flywheel issues.
Nice video gents. .good to see guys having fun and getting along...btw...i got a 25 Johnson on a 16' aluminum bass boat. Use to do 20mph but my son grew up and I got fatter...now we're pushing 14mph!!!!
All outboard engines , every brand has there issues. Don’t think that you have the best ..
JDRTRM JDRTRM no the old Johnsons and evinrudes are the most reliable outboards
Eternal Thread not the new ones
Eternal Thread most 90s model outboards are un breakable
Need a prop maximization, at least one less pitch from current one...
Those lower ends are sacrificial pieces, they're designed to basically 'self destruct' to save the rest of the engine in the event you hit something at high speed. I've done something similar 2x, once on a 37 Outrage Whaler at 45kts with the middle engine, and again on a 31 Everglades on the starboard engine, both times it did it's job and saved the rest of the engine from major damage. Both times also happened to be Mola Mola that we whacked, those beasts are hard to see when the bow is up!
My Yamaha 350s have a lifetime warranty. Yamaha gave the first batch of 350s a lifetime warranty because they didn't want any bad pr for their new halo motor. I'll never sell my 32 Contender because of it.
life time replacement of the flywheels every 100 hrs,not the entire motor
Guys, next time you go fishing,make sure you check compression level in the main reservoir.if comprensión levells below the lower line and you are coming out of the marina like that,it's a sure case of a Blown motor.and that's exactly what happens!
So remember: check comprensión fluid levels before leaving the marina!
'Doesn't look too good for yamaha'
'Wait, did we hit something?'
Oh my gosh I never see a boat engine blow up in my life!!😲😲😲😲😲😲😲
The tail of the engine blown not the engine it self
It wasn’t the engine it was the lower unit
I know
Mate it's a crime that you gotta pay $30k for an outboard. Airplane engines are cheaper
Dude do your one of those people that think they know what they’re talking about
I am going to guess no they were just talking about this and that like oh my. I am going to guess water flow stopped and they are now going to have to get a completely new motor.
I am going to guess no they were just talking about this and that like oh my. I am going to guess water flow stopped and they are now going to have to get a completely new motor.
I learned an expensive lesson holding weights in my teeth..... long story short, new front tooth. Lol.
I’m a 15 year old schooling boat mechanic and all I have to say u need a new lower unit and maybe a crank shaft if it wasn’t bent that’s not 30k it’s more like 2k with the lower unit and the time it takes to put it back on it’s a easy fix just needs a new lower unit let’s hope!
Damn I was not alone. Just blew my lower 18 miles offshore last week. Had to be towed back since I only have 1 engine.
Which is why I'd never go offshore without twins
That is really cool, but everything mechanical CAN and WILL fail, even a 454 or 383 Stroker or 350 or whatever (I'm a big Chevy guy.) If I'm going offshore, I don't care if it's a motor god built himself.. there better be two. One for backup because again, engines fail.
@Rara Neagra BuY a cHeVrOleT v8 man any outboard can break, always have two motors when offshore.. Thats just common sense
Ship happens!!! Been there before 15 miles out on 1 motor - blew it up (mercury) waited an hour and tow boat hooked us up and pulled us in.
Wtf is the point in having two engines if u dont use them as they were meant for.
Stay out with one 300 easy as pie .
Unbelievable
You need two engines if the boat is to big for one engine to get it up on plane and some people just like to have a back up if one blows “like in this video” and one 300 hp motor will not get that boat up on plane with all that weight. Next time u comment do a little research and get some knowledge! Bihh
@SaltyDadok so do u mean under a year old they more likely to fail?. yee only live once there olde sawlty dawg ( oh salty dad ). I better make my single engine buy a wise choice then aye .
Cheers m8
@@wolfe8146 it was nearly on plane on half power .id say u go research yourself .id bet i could easily get that pos motor planing easy as pie
I’m a boat mechanic so I think I know what I’m talking about and been fishing for all my life on a boat and have been a mate on various boats so and it’s a Yamaha that’s why it’s almost up on plane with one engine
wolfe fishes funny you should say that about research. That boat will plane with one 300. The reason for dual engines is two fold. One is for safety, if one goes you have one to make it back. The other reason is two motors will push that boat easier than one. They will turn lest rpm and get better fuel economy than one. Over time those motors should last longer
Glacier Bay 2680 Cat with Yamaha 150 4 strokes. In the Pacific weather permitting cruise between 20 and 30 knots, 3000 to 4500 rpms. Treat them good and they will treat you good.
Being the port engine, it’s probably the counter rotator, which have a extra cog in the lower unit, to reverse the direction of final drive, so the prop spins opposite way to the starboard engine prop.
It looks like it spat that extra cog out through the lower unit gear casing.
That suggests maybe there was no oil in that lower unit!
You’d expect with HP 80/90 gear oil to have seen a pretty big oil plume on the water where the engine went boom.
I didn’t see that, which makes me question, did the mechanic servicing the motor maybe forget to top off that lower unit with gear oil?
Pretty unusual to blow a lower unit in under 12 months on a new Yamaha OB like that without there being a causal factor like no oil.
OMMV.
Hey fishing line could do it, I’ve picked up a whole ton of braid and didn’t even feel it until I saw the inside of the prop covered in chocolate milk.
Agree....plus for 200HP engines and above that are less than 12 months old.....you really need to spend AT LEAST a year breaking them in.....GENTLY. Yamaha will cover this........yes I am a Yamaha dealer.
i tought the same. Even when they lifted the engine up no oil on the water at all. I have let a few drops of oil hit the water and that was very visible allready. Imagine dumping 2quarts? of oil in there. And even when there is prettymuch no oil left, if you tilt it like that there wil stil be coming oil out of there. So i think you might be right, it might have run without oil
Ian Moone Or the clutch bearing could’ve had a factory defect...
Caleb Fuller yeh, what he said.
This is why you remove the prop and clean out any debris around the seal on a regular basis.
Okay, I have to comment. First of all there is a lot of anti Yamaha in this video and in the comments. If you know of a lower unit that wont go out then I would love to know about it. This isnt really a reflection of Yamaha since this happens with all of them. I still think something was hit, but even if it wasn't that's the ways she goes sometimes. I've ran a lot of outboards of various make and model and the only unit I've ever had go without hitting something was a left hand rotation unit and that happened on both a Mercury and a Yamaha to me. 75 percent of my hours are on Yamaha. I have maybe 15,000 (30,000 really since there are usually 2) hours, so not as much as some of you guys but enough to know that these outboard issues are pretty much universal. I will give mercury the nod for sweetest outboards these days if iam forced to answer, but Yamaha makes a hell of a durable product for sure.
I have twin 2005 Mercury Verado 250 Supercharged V6 four strokes on the back of my 2005 30' Boston Whaler and my engines run like they're brand new even though they have 1408 hours a piece on them!
Should have been able to finish the day with one motor. 300hp is still a lot of power. Many 25ft+ boats using a single 250-300hp engine.
ultimatejay that’s what I thought too. That hull must be way heavier than it looks as they said were only limping along on 1 motor or maybe just took it easy so motor 2 didn’t fail in a similar fashion. MAGA
Probably to heavy propped to plane on one engine only. If they could switch to a smaller prop it could have worked.
But one of the biggest points for two engines is redundancy. If you're 25+ miles off shore, VHF's don't have great range, if your radio does work you'll be waiting hours for towing, and EPIRB response is at minimum 3-6 hours after the plane spots you. Having a single engine offshore just isn't very comfortable. Albeit they weren't very far but it's still a factor.
sailorkid94 I do agree, but there are a lot of single engine commercial boats in the Northeast Canyons. Up here there are people in 20’ single screws fishing 20 miles off.
why do you have to plane? unless they were gonna be trolling. just get to a reef or wreck or rig and start fishing.
Seriously if Yamaha was smart they'd pay you to remove this video.Once this thing goes viral it'll stain everyone's brain. It's unfortunate but this video will affect the 425 hp outboard sales Why ? Because perception is everything. No one wants to be the fool who spent thousands of dollars on some duds
i can just imagine how insanely expensive that fix is
lol yeah
@@YakMotley used lower units are not that expensive, Mercury 150 used low unit is under $1000
less than 1 year old Yamaha rebuilt my 115 Johnson in 2003 I still run the crap out of it runs awesome for only four hundred bucks. $30,000 I'll keep my Johnson
Johnson is made by Evenrude outboard motors.They are the worst on the market in performance.
Shawn P rebuilt my Johnson in 2003 V4 110 still runs awesome today and I rebuilt it myself. still runs great
@@shawnp8429 Used to be when they were manufactured by OMC ,nothing wrong with them-i would take one over a "high performance" Mercury ANY day.....plenty of old Evinrudes and Johnsons around still in use.........how many old Mercurys or other outboards do you see??................not many
Shawn P lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Bought and restored a four Winns 258 vista. Rebuilt the Volvo penta in her and cranked it to 400horse. (325stock.). We have a place in the thousand islands...anyway in her maiden voyage after rebuilding the engine, I sucked up a plastic garbage bag in my intake. Completely destroyed my engine with a cracked block that quick. $5500 in parts down the drain in 3 mins.
I know a couple guys that had the same exact thing happen. One 653 Detroit and a 12v 71 Detroit. the 12 cyl. was on a friggin million dollar Post. I was in the same marina and man that dude was straight freaking pissed. I don't know weather he rebuilt or replaced, what BS thing to happen.
I've have 3 Yamaha's......all run like swiss watches. Love em!
Ever tried powering a boat with a swiss watch? I hope they aren't that bad.
what was final verdict? No gear lube in the lower Im guessing!
My guess is a seal went in it letting water in thus flushing all the oil out
I've had experience with the 250s commercially, had constant problems, had to replace a power head on one motor and gearbox on the other. These outboards just aren't what they used to be. And I looked after the motors very well too.
Yamaha should give you a motor just to take the video down lol
Thesilentghost74 its called warranty
They hit something, that why it looks like "that a new one" ;)
It's a new powerhead and it's under warranty
John lewis yea I figured just a joke
@@Rexamillion16 I've blown up a yahmaha and I put an etec on it and it worked better the boat is faster quieter and better on fuel
The worst part of offshore fishing is having 1 engine and breaking down lol.
So what did Yamaha do/say about the fault? Did they fix it?
This is why u check ur engines every time before u go out, specially in the ocean..dur te dur..
No. They're expected to work. You don't pop the hood of your car and inspect everything before you go to work.
I thought maybe you guys were Drug runners and forgot about the Kilo stuffed in the Engine ! Good call on limping back to port . Dam it my phone is dying ! Dam it Trump 😂
"Limping" back with 300hp on soap cup? Well I have 28hp on a 10 ton
boat :)
Sad part of it all is that 1 Yamaha 300 4-stroke could not get that boat on plane to get in faster. Evinrude G2 150 could. Love the G2's.
man I would cry if that was my boat. that's why I like my kayak cheaper maintenance.
Yakin with Jack exactly
Yaking with jack boat stands for one thing only break out another thousand
You can't take a kayak 20 miles offshore, I wouldn't want to deal with any kind of weather in one either. I do agree that a yak is considerably cheaper to maintain.
untill you have a heart attack..... then your at like $500,000 in maintenance cost
yeah, thats a relevant comment,,,kayak =outboard engine,,,, ya gotta love these stupid comments
This was from fishing line stuck in the prop they said it was in another video
You hit the Clinton server and all the missing Emails!
More like Trumps credability, sunk.
Jeff H are u sure about that? Lmaooo u big stoopid
@@zach5154 enjoy your freedom, while he takes your right to vote away!
Jeff H oh so pelosi and Clinton are guys now? I mean 2020 but u don’t have to be like that
@@BornAgainCynic0086 BS....................
In Alaska Yamaha is easily 70% dominate in outboards above 35 HP. It's not even close here where a dead outboard is more than an inconvenience.
Thats why I want twin outboards.
Or get a tow coverage for $150 a year!
Torch TV tow coverage usually doesn’t cover anything over 20 miles out and tow coverage won’t help you if your single motor dies during a storm and you need to keep moving to survive.
U.A.T. Hence driftanchor
id rather have power and be able to move around then to wait till they come tow me while in a storm or that kind of thing...
We had Yamaha's on our work boats in Venice. I didn't care for them. If I wouldn't have had dual 225's I would be dead. Honda or Suzuki is the way to go for commercial use.
When you cast net bunker leave them in the net in the water for 2 mins and they will poop in the water and not in your live well
Watching this video , and I started "steaming" a little about the Trump Joke! (Nearly didn't watch the rest of it because of that ONE little thing!). Glad I finished watching the rest of it, though ! ! ! (AND... You must have gotten a lot of "Flack" over it, so I won't "Beat a Dead Dog"). Haha!
I watch every one of your videos, and try to learn from them. Thanks for making them, and I look forward to more.
Little bit of JB weld and your good to go...........
lol
and a blame Trump duct tape! :)
Haha
Tin can and pc 7. Haaaa
How on earth did you manage to make it back with only one 300hp Engine? Oh the humanity.
In Finland we have a saying "Yamaha ei pamaha" in english it means Yamaha doesnt blow, and the times our yamaha snowmobile had boomed like pew pew pew boom xD
What???
Sea me fish Miller when cold starting the snowmobile it does sometimes loud boom
Hienoa
Dafuq
kelkkahommissa aikoinaan meilläpäin sanottiin osta yamaha puuhun pamaha, kun ei se yamahan alusta oikein mukana pysynyt 2000 luvun alussa
Always good when the mechanic wants a photo....lol
Lol yea!
Dang, Man! That blows!!
I've only seen one other do this and it was brought on by incorrect shift cable throw causing the shifting dog collar to pop out and back in under forward power, splitting the shifting dog into 2 pieces and blowing out the side of the lower unit.
Nice to be running twins in a time like this!!!!
Two engines mean two times the chance of engine failure. Add Yamaha to the mix and make that four times.
At least, with two engines, they could still get back to shore. If a single large engine fails, you're "dead in the water". You ALWAYS want an alternate means of propulsion, especially, in a boat like that, that's too big to paddle. Having more than one engine is the ideal solution.
Too bad that happened....... hope it's under warranty! As soon as I heard the Trump joke I knew you were fans of his....... yup, Trump gets blamed for EVERTHING!!! MAGA!!!!!!! Thanks for video..... Trump 2020!
Looks like a gear in the planetary gear went into orbit... into Davey Jones' Locker.
No planetary gears in the lower unit. Just fixed-axis bevel gears... Hopefully it was an internal failure. An external hit would probably not be covered by the warranty. Even if the LU is replaced, a failure like this can do hidden damage to the powerhead. It's rotten luck anyway you cut it.
let me guess. fishing line caught in the propeller damaged the seals and eventually drained all the oil so the gears seized?
Blowing an engine (of a dual engine setup) is the worst part of off shore fishing. I could think of a couple more issues that could be classified as worst part of off shore fishing
Yeah like...Having only ONE engine, and blowing that! (Leaving you "dead in the water")
That smoke is a lot of money for the owner. Yamaha should cover that!
I don't understand all the smoke coming out, something had to be was very hot in the final drive before it broke the casing, so either no lube, or something way too tight to get it that hot.
that was blatant sarcasm I say stuff like that all the time
We hit a sea turtle one time. Total devastation
Wow
At least you had a second engine to get you home! My MerCruiser 260hp shit itself after a rwc blockage 42 km south west of Portland, Victoria, Australia. It was a long tow back by the Coast Guard. Anyway, at least I now have a new 300hp 6.2litre MerCruiser. Work sux, I'd rather be fishing....
Sometimes shit just blows😁 until next time!!
Lol
This is exactly why I'll never go offshore without at least 2 on the rear.. If one shits out like this one, you have backup.
And.. this is why you go offshore with Mercury's on the rear.......
I would rather go offshore with one Yamaha than two mercy.
I would rather go offshore with one Yamaha than two mercs.
CAN YOU KEEP US UP-DATED ON THE REPAIR STTUS OF THE LOWER UNIT? WAS IT COVERED UNDER WARRANTY? Hope its gets resolved quickly. Thanks
Sure ! It’s in the shop now!
I personally have 100% coverage for this kind of accident. My motor isn't a 30K but it cost 4,500.00 for E-Tec 30HP man outboards are expensive but I have a 10 year warrantee.
Now I know why I'm a diesel inboard owner!!!
Doesn't matter...This was a gearbox failure, not an engine failure. The same thing could happen, no matter what kind of engine powers it.
My 115 4 stroke yamaha with about 50 on it let me sown yesterday as it went dead during blast off and would not restart. thankfully it is still in warrenty
I'm guessing a no-go@ this station 😤😢😭..... there is always a bright side to all the bs... the beer is still cold!!
Lol oh yeah ! Beer makes it better !
One engine has a failure on video = Yamaha bad. Solid logic, guys.
I'm just wondering why you couldn't continue your fishing trip on the one good engine and just keep the bad one tilted up out of the water. Is it a safety issue to not be out in the ocean with just one outboard?
Too slow to go fishing... they would need a smaller prop to plane on just one engine.
Svein Hanssen
Why does one need to go fast while fishing? Aren't you normally sitting still when you're fishing? I understand the boat would be a lot slower to get back to dock but I still don't see why we stopped you from actually fishing.
It's not a preformance thing.... You loose one and don't call it a day then you run the odd chance of loosing two... it's not worth it if you run twins and have one fail you got one to get home not to keep fishing imho.
Wicked Reelz
Definitely understand that would be a good reason to head home. As they say Two is One.. and One is None.
It's that way out where I live people that are off grid you always have an extra of something, because you know when you only have one it's going to break when you most need it.
300 hp and it wont push that tiddly little puddleduck onto the plane?
August 1st coming back form the Jr. Angler tournament 6 miles outside the Pensacola Pass and my Yamaha 300 DID blow a rod THROUGH the head and the side of the block. Only has 227 hours on its warranty expired last year. SMDH. No more Yamahas for me! DONE.
That's the last thing I would expect from a Yamaha.
Edit: nevermind looks like user error.
in louisiana we still fish and worry later. I blew the engine in my truck going fishing pulled over got a ride home got my other truck drove back picked up the boat left the truck and went fishing
I liked the video but that sucks. I hope he gets it covered under a warranty considering its only a year old.
B O A T = BRING OUT ANOTHER THOUSAND!!!
Lol unless your boat was only 1000 dollars
$30K?! I'm sorry, that's total BS, there is not $30K's worth of engineering or product there, what the hell, is this what outboards now cost?! Maybe for both but F that, if this is what it costs then boating has become an grossly inflated activity/hobby...
Jack Fetter right around 100 bucks per hp
Nope. $30K each. Boating is not a cheap hobby. It can be, but you aren’t getting a rig like that.
When I was a kid this happened to my dad's friends boat he just pulled it out the water and used one motor didn't let it ruin our day but it's funny because it's the same engine
“We were just cruising” at what 57 and the top end is 60 I have the same boat and cruise at 30 to 45 and we have never had a problem with are Yamaha
i think that the mechanic might have forgotten to replace the oil or the gearbox may have had a leak that was not totally visible where the oil slowly leaked out as you drove. i had a blown gearbox before when my mechanic forgot to replace the oil after changing it and after just 10 min of cruising, the gearbox blew...
Sombody that’s fucked up hope he replaced it for you
This video is the nail in the coffin for me when it comes to buying new bigger Yamaha's .I'm going Verado or Suzuki when I repower. Now it makes sense why Yamaha doesn't have motors available. THEY KNOW THEY HAVE PROBLEMS SO THEY DON'T PUT THEM TO MARKET !
Suzuki all the way. Just repowered with a 250
go Tohatsu, better motor
Alfred Montaner you could got with evinrude
I currently have a E-Tech 115 hp on one of my ribs but I'm leaning Suzuki for my 24 Rib
100% agree love my 2012 ETec (BRP) not really the evinrude we grew up with but it runs flawless knock on wood and i would have no problem owning a Yamaha or Merc Suz or even a Honda if i was buying used but New i did go with the Etec and do not regret
If you don't got your buddy out with you on another boat you might want sea tow or a comparable source in your area
You paid too much for your Yams to begin with. Should have gone with the Suzuki 300’s. I’ve seen some with 10,000 commercial hours with no major issues When you reengine that’s the way to go. Stay away from the 350’s. Too loud and poor fuel economy despite the reduced rpms.
Always check your prop for fishing line
So jack the clutch dog whatever blew up in my Yamaha last week too! Luckily my is just a 9.9 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
Only engine I work on because they are perfectly engineered
that is a sign from above... he did it to save you guys from something horrible at sea and it's not slaying fish.
Seeing how everyone is guessing beyond the info given in video I may as well, Lower unit went out, hmmm most likely braided line cut through seal letting saltwater in and gear case lube out, causing unit to cease up. Whit smoke nothing to do with motor its self and no reason for gear case in lower unit to break if it's the motor. New lower end and go fishing. Take prop off in future and check, it will save money.
Captain Tim
Yikes!! That’s not good news for the captain. Sorry you guys had to cut short your day of fishing.
I think I’ll stick to kayaks & rowboats!!
But that’s why u go twin motor so u can drive back when ur motor blows
Get yourself a G2
Hate to say it but.......a bad day on the water beats a good day at work. My first boat had an mercruiser inboard/outboard motor 140, I swear that boat was allergic to water. I own a 24 ft. Yamaha SX240 HO twin engine jet boat now.
saw a lot of lower unit trouble Yamaha. Shafts are too soft, not hard. IDK why they not perfect this issue. The new Evinrude's I did not like at first, but the new Space age looking motors rock. Suzuki, Yamaha and Mercury to stand up to them bad boys
My next vacation destination is Florida, I love the water and boats. Just did a Alaskan cruise and now wanting to head out east. Thanks for the video.
Lee Nix the keys are nice. Real laid back and great fishing.
Lower unit for sure. It should be under warranty. Go Trump 👍🏻🇺🇸
Jason B Yeah, I think it has a year warranty. He should be good.
Dream on....it's not under warranty in any way... you did the damage by hitting something, not poor Yamaha workmanship...
Shift link. Did the same thing on my last Yamaha. 1985 70hp. They use th e same setup. Odds are the shift pen slide out and clipped the pinion gear. It happens. On my new f115 I get the lower checked every spring.
William Chilton do u regret buying the Yamaha what are your thoughts I was thinking of getting one this summer worth the buy or should I steer clear
I can sell you a Scout with Mercs...
Yammie still better
@@gregmsnow once upon a time, yes. Not anymore.