Tesla fast-tracking $25,000 Model 2 and Model Y Juniper for late 2024
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- Tesla fast-tracking $25,000 Model 2 and Model Y Juniper for late 2024
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Where can I buy my $25,000 Model 2? If I can buy a $25,000USD Model 2 in 2025, I will donate $1000USD to the charity of your choice. And if I can't, you have to button up your shirt for a week.
Dude seriously button up the shirt at least one button
😂😂😂
I'm looking to buy a MYLR but my main concern is the $7500 US federal tax credit. Now that Tesla removed the existing inventory discounts (MYLR was $44k in inventory whereas now it's $47.9k), I'd rather just wait for Model Y LR Juniper. Though I have no idea if Tesla is just gonna use different batteries which could make the RWD and LR not qualify for the tax credit (like with Model 3). I wish they could give us a heads up early on so then I can make a decision as this would be a family car I keep for 8+ years.
I really like the new changes/additions to the refresh Model 3 so would love to have a Model Y with that but not if it's gonna cost like $8-10k more.
Insurance in Sweden is quit high. If Tesla start up their own, ill guess it will boost the sales.
Sam🌟👍🇸🇪
Th disruption runs deep
Mexico has an incredible number of free trade agreements with nearly 50 countries. Mexico factory could be a huge export hub for Tesla for years.
And BYD
And insulated from China
@@larryc1616 besides some shills, BYD has long ways to go for people wanting to buy their cars outside of China. They need to start slow and it can take some time but most countries aren't ready for EV's yet.
Vehicles almost never fall under export agreements. Vehicles are special, every country wants them made within their borders as they bring jobs.
@@aoh4905 "Out of more than 3 million new energy passenger vehicles the company produced last year, just over 242,000 went overseas. The rapid growth of BYD and other Chinese electric car companies has other automakers worried."
You've got a point. Why would we doubt anything Elon or Tesla says. They've always told us nothing but the truth. 😄🤣😄
………. With elaborate timelines
Elon is truthful to a fault. His estimates have been very wrong but he qualified them as estimates.
Cope harder
Erm you don’t understand exactly what was said. Agree they didn’t cancel the 25$K car but they did say that they will release cheaper versions of current technology with advanced tech included at a reduced price but not likely to be 25k$…
But not 25k? Then it was canceled.
Right, but isn’t that a good thing? Adding more models/variants at a modestly lower price to bridge between current offerings and the Model 2 makes good sense to me personally.
Elon was smart this time not calling it a 25k$ module 2 so that he smartly try to erasing his long hype(5 more year promised) on M2 with 25k$. Any one like to bet? low model will be 30K$?? (just like the CyberTruck cheat promised 40$K)
@@johncahill3644also good but not as important as a cheap car yesterday. 25k is too high. With all the price cutting, model 3 is already heading there and maybe that’s what they mean. A cheap model 3 version.
But to compete, they need a 15k car. And motorbikes. And busses.
Semi truck, cyber truck, robo taxi and AI robot wasted Teslas time and money. They going to be over run by BYD next year already.
No, what was said that there are multiple new models in the work, lower priced versions of current models, and later on, the robotaxi.
After reading today's news it seems to me that the original Reuter's story got a lot right and it is a bit unfair of Elon to say they were lying and for Sam to compare Reuter's with trashy celebrity news outlets.
Elon didn’t say anything about a $25,000 car on the call. All he said was Tesla will prioritise using existing production lines to produce a ‘cheaper’ car. No way will that be $25k - that price will only be possible with the Unboxed method and it will be $25k in today’s terms i.e. we’ve had a lot of inflation since he said that.
The long-term cheap car will be $30k plus, the interim one for late 2024 and 2025 is likely to be between $30k and $35k, it might even be entry level Model 3/Y variants, who knows. It’s nonsense to say there will be a $35k car this year.
$25000 was a price point meaningfully lower than the best selling cheap cars in the US, which is about 28k-30k. It would probably still need to be $25k.
This is very much needed,can’t wait 👍😉💪
Glad to hear it!
Great episode, very informative. Thanks Sam ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
Gud Gud GUDDAY MATE ….. @ 1 : 46 dats a amazing design
I’d like to see a Model 3 Highland to qualify for the federal rebate. If they can source batteries outside of China, it could still happen.🤞
Performance highland 🤷🏽♂️
Basically the takeaway from Elon is that they will incorporate some of the new manufacturing process into the model Y and model 3 to reduce the cost further, and release cheaper versions of those same cars by end of this year or early 2025. Robotaxi/Cybertaxi will be unveiled Aug 8, 2024 but production probably won't start until Late 2025.
Model 2 will probably be based on same look as the Robotaxi.
Until then prepare for a rollercoaster stock with ups and downs cause the current products aren't selling liked before - just look at the production surplusin q1
Range to low price to high interest rate to high , Elon continues to be a baby and an ass , the new 3 drives really nice , but price range matrix is just not quite right for me . On top of that they tried to low ball me on a trade in 😞
"the current products aren't selling liked before" I question the general veracity of this statement based on information we have receive from Tesla
If memory serves, Tesla has never canceled any projects. Delayed or taken longer than initially planned? of course
You would be dead wrong - they cancelled roadster, S, X, 3, Y and Cybertruck. Bunch of fools.
And never the initial price or promises proposed........
So, Elon said yesterday in Q1 call that one major part that is needed to conseive Model 2's platform is brand new, hot out of the oven. And it was "never cancelled"? Right, right....
Elon never once said the words Model 2. Nor has he ever.
@@michaelnurse9089 He said that it will be having a mixed platform. Including HW5. He also said in that call, that HW5 got "design readiness" not very long before that call.
It seems there are in between and then the full next gem. I don't like all the guessing.
More info in August
Tesla didn't mention it in their earnings report and talked alot about robotaxi which seems a big error. Their primary mission should be either fixing or replacing the 4680; they didn't mention that either which means they wanted to avoid talking about it; i.e. it isn't going well. A new model would need a factory and that would mean years - is it going to use the 4680? Probably a good reason not to say anything. Until 4680 is fixed or replaced Tesla has a massive problem.
Being a visiting nurse in canada, im waiting for a longer range battery then im all in
Tesla saw this would be an issue for people, 20 years ago, so they built their own network of public superchargers, and today no Tesla owner has worry about battery range. The car will calculate, based on where you going, how much charge is there, find the public chargers on the way and recommend which is the best place to stop! Tesla makes driving an EV the best travelling experience one can have
How far is your commute?
@xiaoka 200miles daily. I'm driving thru the Detroit tunnel daily and everyone knows there is not a lot of charging stations in area and I can't be chasing one and have no intention of ever running out of charge in the tunnel
@@jeffpaquette9035 You can charge up to 175 miles in 15 minutes using the Tesla's V3 Superchagers.
My Model 3 can easily do that, winter or summer. If you are worried about running low on the way home, find a charging station, there are many that have a convenient snack or shop nearby. To avoid hitting crosstown Toronto traffic with under 10% when returning from the London area, I have a choice of Wendy’s or Timmy’s while charging. In either case, 10 minutes of Supercharging does the trick.
At 200 miles per day, 4,000 per month, you are probably paying $600+ in gas, if you can charge at home you could save $500 per month. YMMV.
I remember Musk telling Sandy Munro about the Model 2 and you could see in his face that he was completely enthusiastic about its production. There was no way the project would be cancelled.
Model 2 and 25$K are two differents thing though.....
I'll believe it when I see it. Tesla always misses its time targets on new vehicles and when they do finally come out, they are full of problems.
The model Y was launched early. Have early Model Y and 2018 Model 3. No issue. Clearly you do not own a Tesla. 😂
I wish juniper will actually achieve 400 miles as an option
If Reuters lied, then why no one is suing them, the stock went down, i'm sure a lot lost money. Elon doesn't own Tesla, he's a majority shareholder, there are other board members who could have said something to Reuters...
It looks like Reuters was right, regardless of how Elon is trying to spin it. Cost reducing their current cars isn't the same as building a low cost car, as I am sure we will see when the actual pricing is revealed.
They will use current production lines, but that's not the same as they'll be using the current cars. They will build a low cost car using current technology, rather than build new technology and new production lines from scratch. It's actually a very sensible move, as it will allow them to use the current production lines to their full capacity while keeping the current model Y and model 3 at their current margins. And it still leaves them the option of releasing an even cheaper car with the new production technology in the future
@@frank4425 It may or may not be a sensible plan... Reuters wasn't claiming that Tesla was making a short-term sensible or non-sensible move. If Musk wants to now make his cost reduced Model 3 into a lower-cost Model 2, great. But it's pretty unlikely that this plan will be able to compete with actual lower cost EVs from China, which was what the actual low cost Model 2 was supposed to compete against.
With its decline in sales and poor quality CT, it is probably the right business move at this point to just cost reduce the Model 3 rather than build a Model 2. But long term it's questionable.
The current production lines aren't being used to their full capacity. Even if Elon had stuck to his original plan of new manufacturing technology for a cheaper car, that problem would have remained unsolved. The problem was that those production lines were overbuilt for that particular price bracket. The only way they can use the existing production lines to their full capacity is to also use them for cheaper cars. Producing cheaper cars will also allow them to lower the production volume of model Y and model 3 and instead treat them as lower volume premium margin products. That would make existing owners of those products happy, as it would slow down their vehicle depreciation rates.
Also, don't underestimate how much more cost efficient the current production lines can get. If other vehicle manufacturers are able to produce cheaper cars with current technology, there is no reason Tesla can't. Also, there is no rule saying that Tesla can't come up with two cheaper models, rather than one. They can always introduce a cheaper model with newer technology later.
I don't think Musk meant that they would use the SAME physical production line to make the new model. I believe he meant the same conceptual production line modified to be more efficient.
What the holy hell is a “conceptual production line”?
The press and proper journalism has been in a terminal decline since the introduction of social media. Every Tom, Dick and Harry can post something and the press journalists have jumped on the band wagon to get clicks.
Fortunately there are some very good commentators like yourself (Sam) that sift through all this BS and give a realistic assessment of the real state of affairs.
Well, I’m in the UK where Tesla prices are high - close to $50k for a Model 3 and more for a Model Y. I would love to have a cheaper option, even if it’s a stripped down 3/Y or a smaller car/SUV that’s cheaper. We won’t ever get a $25k car here.
The rivals are spreading rumors about the model two being cancelled so that the people who are waiting stop waiting and buying another brand now.
Elon said he was looking over the finalization of production lines of the new vehicle months ago.
Musk just met Li qiang. I heard there will be a model one hatchback in 2nd shanghai factory. Priced from $16000.
Model 0.5 for $8,000?
People get hooked onto clickbait and so deeply there is no getting away from it except through semantics which is a huge waste of time. Thanks for the info, Sam.
The least a $25,000 vehicle would sell for in Canada after exchange:
$38,000 before Taxes.
What is holding back is battery's?
Only in usa. Their is a huge over supply in china
@@allangraham970 And theirs are very safe. No fire risk at all.
@@papasquat355 Catl company produces safe battery. No fire risk. However I cannot say same to other Chinese battery producers.
People seem to forget that Tesla depends on suppliers to meet deadlines. Play depend on different suppliers and if one doesn't meet the the promise delivery date that bottlenecks everything.
@@leonardoreina1655 Same is true for all auto companies. Too many auto companies filling up empty lots with nearly completed vehicles over these last few years.
I saw a news article somewhere that Tesla was talking to Modi in India about production there as well ?
Can anyone tell me you are guaranteed a free autonomous upgrade from Supervised FSD, if and when it becomes available????
The reason they're going to do it on the same lines the current cars is not just to be so great for you and bring it forward it's because the capital the capex needed to start up the whole new line it's not something that they want to spend now based on how things are going.
Even it's a reality, like an inkjet printer the insurance is skyrocket due to shortage of parts and labor, new model parts are so scared that could wait for months.
Why would the parts be scared?
Blatant lie
@@longmuskox4194 All have a point there. however everyihing is pretty scary in the western atmosphere interns of geopolitical .issues.
4:20 "Reuter is lying again" not news because that is the norm.
Henry Ford said it best. Small cars, small profits
what 'noise' er, news' are you hearing about the FSD for everyone in USA for April? It's ver 12.3 I think...12 something. And they've dropped the price of FSD.
BTW it's AMAZING - 'navigate to xxxx' and off it goes!! so far for me it's working perfectly - day or night, highway or country lanes with no lines!!
Everyone who drives it feels the same way. Wait for next quarter to get information on conversion rates. If they are good, expect shares to go up.
Fast Charging will reduce need for Larger Size Batteries.. Reducing overall costs for Battery
We just need a ton more of it.
How is it obvious that model y junioer is being fast tracked? It might be the most likely with the information we have, but in no way "obvious". But please point to reference if that is the case
Model 2 is not 'fast-tracked'. It's super late and is getting accelerated to catch up!
Cant Tesla sue Reuters?
How can they ramp production after laying off 10 percent of their workforce?
More automation.
Robots?
Well said Sam. All the naysayers and Elon Musk said they were wrong. So why did people not listen?
Part of his plan was to get to a cheaper car that could be mass market. I really do hope that it can happen.
So all you have to prove them wrong is hope? 🙄
All they said was cheaper models. Well the refresh model 3 was a "cheaper model" and the refresh model Y will also be a "cheaper model" and due later this year of early next year.
He never mentioned anything about the model 2. People just filled the gaps and thats exactly how Tesla wanted it to go.
Exactly.
What difference does it make as long as it’s a new model and cheaper? As long as it’s close to $25,000 with the $7500 IRA rebate it’s affordable for far more people. Look at how big of a failure GM’s EVs have been Hummer, Blazer and Equinox. They all went to market at nearly 40% higher point than the stated price at announcement. All combined in 1 year GM sold less than Tesla sold in a lousy declined quarter.
It’s HUGE!!
@@neilh.4088 Well considering the refresh SR+ and LR Model 3 don't qualify for the tax credit I would be amazed if the Model Y variants of these get the tax credit. I expect the only Model Y to keep the tax credit will be the performance version.
Tesla has never and will never call it a "Model 2".
They’ve missed the point that automargin is 17.2% - with roughly 50K of unsold cars. When these cars are sold in Q2 - how this affect the margin ? Simple guess...
And the 10% layoff never happened,
If they use steer by wire it does not matter where the steering weel is.
Ya sure, just put it in the trunk!
Tesla has come down in price and are great value, but you can't call them cheap.
They have zero value. Nobody wants them.
Wait! Jay-Z killed Beyonce? I better report this in my blog to my 2 million followers. Thanks for the scoop!
Musk's fast track $ 25k ev: rebadging BYD cars. They only have to put Tesla logo on it. It would be similar to GM rebadging Toyota Corolla as Geo Prism. The Tesla Fremont plant had that GM-Toyota connection
how can you say its not back on? just because musk says it was not of? could be that he wants a better stock price before they vote about his bonus?
Why do you think the juniper is coming out sooner?
Ignored in the video.. but not the headline lol.. then talks about clickbait.. very poetic
Perhaps Sam's balls are itchy?😅😅😅
Reuters has nothing to lose because their reputation as a balanced truth based reporter has on a decline the last few years, and will probably go down the toilet soon.
Right, it won't be canceled. However $25k is after $7.5k government incentive.
Drive by wire means that it does not matter which side the wheel goes. There is no pole.
You could probably connect a PlayStation steering wheel to the usb port.
Cybertanic.
Your catatonic.
@@Michael-yi4mc I think you mean "you're catatonic" ...... right ?
Cybergate is a completely different angle.
Elon said there would be no Model Y in 2024 so he's changing course, it's not just the media that's wrong.
It is more than about click. It is about shorting the stocks. It is so hard to see?
You think Reuters shorted the stock? Or someone worked with them? If that ever got out there would be hell to pay.
I bet its just a cheaper version of the model 3 and Y if its made on the same assembly lines. Probably with a cheaper battery. Might be able to get it down to a 30-35K vehicle. Also thats the only way to produce it this year in my opinion...
Same!
Agreed
Sam at beginning of video (and title): Reuters was wrong. Model 2 is NOT cancelled.
Sam at 6:05: Reuters reports that the new vehicle will be built on the existing (Model 3) platform, and they are probably correct.
So Reuters was wrong, but they're not wrong.
Of course there's no reason why a car can't be designed with the Unboxed process in mind, but choosing to begin production on conventional lines.
New models: Model Y Juniper, Model Y RWD LR and cheaper Model 3. No Model 2 coming anytime soon.
😩
Tesla needs to redesign the skin and interior of the 3 and keep the underpinnings. They’re running out of people who want a toast to drive to work. Not everyone wants to drive the same looking car.
I love the models S,3,X, Y. Maybe I’m getting too old but I could never buy anything with the word cyber in it. No Cybertruck, looks too weird, and the drawings I’ve seen of the cyber cab are the same, looks too damn weird.
I NEED THE JUNIPERRRRRR
Personally, they just need to downgrade the cyber truck on how much they make a year and push most that production into the new $25,000 core you’re gonna want more people wanting that car than that truck
There is nothing to stop Tesla revisiting the original cheap (software locked) car. Or omitting certain functionality (via software) which can be bought and added at a later date. Also, with CATL themselves saying a 60kwh LFP battery will cost $3000 by the middle of this year, the most expensive part of a car could be dropping significantly. Maybe put the front wheel motor in the rear and with reduced performance and horsepower. Or just supply the front wheel motor only. However something like a Model 3 in the UK [£39,990] would maybe get down to £30,000 at best. What people never do it spec a competitor car that has the same features - a base model BMW 3 series is cheap, but thats because it comes with nothing and a wheezy 1.5L 3-cylinder engine.
Battery needs to be made in the US to get $3500 of the rebate. Tesla has to license the tech from CATL and produce it in a high labour cost country which means the battery will be $6000 and take 24 months to set up that factory.
@@michaelnurse9089 Tesla buy CATL LFP Battery packs already (and have been stock piling). They do not need to set up a factory for LFP in the short term. They also produce their own 4680 in house for cyber truck. They have a dual manufacture agreement with Panasonic for 18650 which go in Model S and X. The 2170 cell used in Model 3 an Y are also a joint venture with Panasonic. As you say, Tesla are building an LFP plant in the USA but this is likely to allow cars sold with these packs to qualify for the rebates scheme in the USA.
Battery Costs Coming down..
Next 6 years
Sam at beginning of video (and title): Reuters was wrong. Model 2 is NOT cancelled.
Sam at 6:05: Reuters reports that the new vehicle will be built on the existing (Model 3) platform, and they are probably correct.
So Reuters was wrong, but they're not wrong.
At least 2 new models by the end of year 2024 most likely
@@sparkysho-ze7nmimpossible
Reuters said Model 2 was cancelled for Robotaxi. This is strictly speaking true but it lacks any important context on what overall Tesla plans for new models are. They implied Tesla was circling the drain and the stock market reacted. It is possible to spit out 'a fact' and at the same time be a fake news propagator. Reuters lost credibility here.
The only person who has lost all credibility is Musk! Not even a render of the new models. Yet you hopium bag holders believe his every word!
Semantic. They will make a car at that price, but they cancelled the bespoke Model 2 architecture.
Tesla canceled the $25,000 car. I have the backbone to say it.
In Elon, we trust? Laying off 2700 people at Tx plant then wanted to run model 2 together with the cyber truck and model Y by the end of 2024? That’s a lot of trust to put in the man who habitually undelivered, especially when the company is in a precarious position.
Yeah, all the signs point to Model 2 not being delivered anytime soon, if ever.
The company is not in a precarious position. No time line has been set for the Model 2, nor have any been pre-sold. The "unboxed" Model 2 will come when it's ready.
There will be Juniper this year, and a no frills 3rd model based on the 3/Y platform. And maybe a van. They already sell the Y without back seats so it would be a logical extension.
Phillip.
I don't think it will be a self driving robotaxi. Just way too many issues. It's has to be a $25k coupe. Just the only way to go
Mystery why execs quit at that exact time of layoffs.
Tesla has dozens of executives. Two more leaving means nothing. Dozens have left since inception and the foolish continue to think it’s an issue. 😂
Reuters is a freaking joke, beyond worthless. I simply ignore them.
I wish Tesla will come to South Africa…
Why? SA has NO electricity. 😅😅
That $25k EV from Tesla is the same as the solid state battery story from Toyota.
Tesla blablabla since 2018. We will have a $25k Tesla in 2020, . . . ehhh 2021 . . .ehh 2022. . . .ehh 2023 . . . 2024 . . . .2025?
They always talk about it, . . . but it always is just the talks, not the walks.
Until they really deliver, It is all blablablabla. And this Tesla fanboy channel is pumping the Tesla blablabla . . . boring
Cheapest Tesla in Netherlands still is €41.000, never been under that magic €40k. . . . .ohhh so affordable.
Steer by wire is very dangerous and should not be accepted. It means that you don't have physical control over your car and third party could take over it and make some bad things with lethal outcome.
Every modern airliner has fly by wire as do most high performance military aircraft.
Tesla have a large award for anyone successfully hacking their cars. You’re clueless.
I also agree it is more risky. Especially with Tesla as the quality control is less stringent than for most of the companies. Innovative the are yes, but with philosophy let customers to test and live with bad quality as long as they do not complain too much and still continue buying.
That said I would still assume even Tesla can make steer by wire right...
@Seasherm however, they also have a pilot and co-pilot 😊
Vaporware coming this year!
The compact car will be built on existing factories. It won’t be built in Mexico yet, which hasn’t broke ground yet.
Also not mentioned in the presentation. Looks like those plans are mothballed.
Did you listen to Elon at all on earnings? That car is s not the 25K Model 2....
Or... Reuters found out they canceled the Model 2 (they did cancel a new model), investors panicked because no one really believes the robo-taxi is close, Musk said Reuters was lying, then in the earnings call Tesla execs pretended a cheaper vehicle made on the same lines (though with no hints of any re-tooling) is the Model 2 so they could keep pretending Reuters lied. It seems a lot like Reuters did them a favor by revealing how the market would react if they'd gone into the earnings call and tried to pretend canceling the Model 2 was a positive thing.
Now we've got 4 months for Musk to resist the urge to agree with racists on Twitter to bring their sales back up before they show a robo-taxi thats either "We swear it will be here next year for realzies this time." or "This vehicle with a sensor pack on the roof looks like a Waymo copy, but we swear your camera only Tesla will also be a robo-taxi next year, keep buying FSD".
REuters had internal emails etc. they didnt make the story up.
Where did you read that? To my understanding their sources where outside of Tesla at Tesla's suppliers.
Just like their reporting on covid vaccines. You obviously got too many boosters.
Yeah the funny thing is the India story ended up being the not true one seeing that's on hold now.
I'm on the team that thinks model 3 will be the cheap car. Remember Elons response to the model 2 story was to announce Robotaxis after market closed to get back at the shorts
So does Fox News.
They still mislead their readers by implying Tesla was circling the drain. The leaks were from low level employees who had no context.
Stock is up 10%. Not 20%.
My sources tell me:
Musk is a jerk
it is about money making, when you have power to manipulate the market, you will use it to make money, and that is what they do, if besozes wants to buy some company shares, all they have to do is to pitch to NT to down play the company stock and he buys them then they say it is great stock, they are now much richer.
Tesla jaa only good news for mu i love it❤❤❤😊
I will be ordering two tesla two's
Or one Tesla 4
Tesla 4 what please explain
@@user-ee9xd4gr2k just a joke because of 2+2 😂
@@mikadege5285 2+2=3😂
What’s going to make a 25k car. 100mile range? I think people want more range cheaper price . Yes it will help in third world countries but not sure it will here . As for the model Y they tell me not before 2025 .
Why do you constantly look drunk, disheveled and hung over?
Keep pumping bro! 🙄
He goes surfing for 4 hours in the morning. While you are typing toxic comments on youtube.
@@michaelnurse9089
If that is true then at least he does one constructive thing during the day.
Pumping Tesla stock ain’t one of them!
You must be a bag holder!
@@richardwolf6269 You must be a paid basher then.
Mate, I share your concerns about mis-information, but I would have to say that this channel is no exception. Who cares what Tesla or Musk says? When it happens, it happens.
Reuters is considered a worldwide bastion of reporting integrity. Or I should say was. Viking is a surfer who reposts news in the afternoon. What sort of comparison are you trying to make here?
@@michaelnurse9089 .many of his vlogs are based on his opinion & not facts. He's just a Tesla influencer.
Tesla could make a 5k car but if it doesn’t use battery it will still end up being food for nio sub brand
Ohh just conveniently by pass 55% profits down the massive layoffs and ev sales beatwn out by hybrids😂😂😂💩💩😅
model 2 on existing assembly line, that means other model will be cut
lol this is not how the story happened it was canceled but stock price made them put it back on table it will not be out to late 2025 or 2026 remember this 25k car was promised by end of 2023 don’t know were this guy is at but I am right here in Texas
Steven Mark Ryan and Dillon Loomis are 2 of many who believed as you do.
Other paid pumpers? 🙄
@@richardwolf6269 Another paid basher? 🙄
The low-cost car on a new platform that was previously mentioned was definitely cancelled. They instead decided to take the easy way out and adapt existing vehicle architecture to bring out a car sooner. Think late 80's Chrysler. Cheap, quick and easy from an engineering perspective, but not an optimal solution.
Model 2 is cancelled, this guy is just spinning the pumper line. As far as I can see ( though he was far from clear, probably intentionally) Musk was saying that he is going to build “affordable” car, an entirely subjective term, note the omission of any hard numbers) using the current platform and production lines so what I think he is talking about is stripped down and/or updated versions of 3 and Y. Not convinced that is going to be a winning strategy.
The Model 2 built using the unboxed method was definitely cancelled as Reuters said. Even Musk didn't actually deny that, he just said that Reuters lied. Then he announced the 8/8 Robotaxi thing, basically confirming Reuters' story. Then under pressure from investors and the rest, they decided to do what all the other manufacturers do, namely launch derivatives of existing models on the same platform as their current models and use the same production lines. That was NOT the original idea for the Model 2 / 25k$ car, that was supposed to be a completely new platform and production method (unboxed). They just spin it to save face basically...
@@dangrecu4034 I'm coming back here in 8 months to see how well your comment aged.
They have no option because global car sales are down 50% thanks to inflation/interest rates. They have $30bn cash and they will burn $20bn on Robotaxi - half on design and half on production ramp - this has the most potential for returns and so is the 200 IQ move.
@@michaelnurse9089 I don't know about 200 IQ, but it is copying a classic legacy auto move. However, competitors are moving faster and not seeing the sales drop. Like 80's Chrysler in the face of intensifying competition from Japan, it might make short term financial sense.
25 k USD model 2? Will never happend
They should absolutely cancel it.. I don't see a market for it.. .and the rate at which existing EVs are dropping we'll have a sub-$30000 EV by next year. Especially now that Kia and Hyaundai are doubling down on them with EV1 through EV9, covering most bases for sizes and types and keeping costs down. A Model 3 RWD will be $29,900 by 2025 for sure so there's no need for a smaller car
That's ludicrous! Outside the USA European, Asian and South American countries want smaller card that fit into our medieval city streets and car parks etc. Tesla 3’s and Y’s are too big an expensive.
@@simoncavill yea I was wondering if the small car world overseas was more into these than the US. But mini cooper is working on their own EV now 😉
We shall see, we shall see. So, we will have a $25,000 model 2, and a fully autonomous robo taxi for sale within a year from now? That is what Elon musk is promising and you are parroting? I will see you in a year, my friend.
...anyone who believes this will happen within a year is clearly part of the cult.
Agreed. It can't and won't happen.