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even though everyone keeps shitting on astra im going for her anyway. they wouldn't purposefully make their first limited s-rank support a skip so im still going for her, and i dont even have a reason to get evelyn right now.
@@SplittedCorn I suppose, but supports arent really supposed to be fast.. they're not damage dealers, they're buffing the damage dealers. they're not dpses for a reason
Returned with 1.4 and im going for Astra for my Miyabi. I wanna Focus on 1 Team first and then went for another one. For the 2nd i still have Harumasa.
Im a low spender ($5 daily thing and battle pass), but I’m playing like I’m F2P. I’ve already got Miyabi, even if it took a lost 5050 and 170 pulls. I’m prioritizing characters I like over meta. I could keep pulling for more Miyabi to strengthen her or even just her weapon, but I’m saving for one copy of Astra and if I’m lucky one copy of Evelyn too. To me it’s not worth it to pull more of Miyabi when I have future characters I’m really wanting to have.
I never heard about ZZZ until I saw a Miyabi release trailer... fast forward... I started playing the game, finished the storyline line, grinded her to lvl60, and now have her at m6w5 with 89 crit rate (I know you only need 80), 145 crit dmg and 2.6k atk. I have her teamed up with m6w5 Piper and m6w5 Lucy or m6w5 Soukaku. I was going to save my pulls for a Yanagi rerelease... if Astra is a good fit for her, I'll probably pull.
Yea but if you are f2p or low spending reading this. Keep in mind that with deadly assault out now you have 3 different teams to invest in. Miyabi M0 is op enough as is and its better to save your pulls and resources for the other two teams if you arent whaling.
Is it worth it to get Yanagi signature engine on rerun? So far, I'm using Grace engine on her. Got miyabi and her engine. I could have skip for Miyabi's engine but it felt like she needed this for huge damage increase. Now I'm wondering if I should get Yanagi's engine too.
@Gauri444 I have Miyabi, so maybe not ellen, and am gonna pull for astra, so want to choose between zhu yuan and evelyn solely on the basis of dps, as I like them both 🤔
@@MountYellow2 if you have s11 and like playing her then you can skip evelyn, you can also wait a few days for the next drip marketing and then decide whether to pull or not, if they release a new ether dps then you can skip zhu yuan too and wait for the next patch :3
Since I got Miyabi, next will be Astra. She might be good for Miyabi. As for Evelyn, I'll wait for Sunbringer. I have a hunch she's a fire type attack agent
@megjay4550 Bruh. You expect me to believe that a void hunter will be an npc because you found it on wiki? Do you even believe every single information from it?
I might be skipping both Astra and Evelyn. It depends on if the rumor of the idol group coming after them is true. Im not wasting my polys if the idols are coming.
Personal opinion (you can disagree - I am not here to convince anybody): Miyabi > Evelyn > Miyabi's Engine > Evelyn's Engine > Astra > Astra's Engine Reasons - (Numbers are all subject to change, any new version coming out might make this old news!): Miyabi as frost (ice) damage dealer is rare and she is strong enough to go even against ice resistant enemies. Evelyn is a good fire attacker and is a lot better than anything we currently have. Miyabi's and Evelyn's engines are huge upgrades to them. Astra for Miyabi is easily replaceable by Soukaku (currently Subject to change: 20% damage vs 20% ice damage, 1.2k atk vs 1k atk, 30% crit dmg vs 10% ice shred, minor energy regen QA and minor heal/2chains on ult vs energy regen on ult) for your second team, Caesar if you have her, for your third team Lucy (Subject to change: around 20% less dmg for your team which is still better than not having for example Miyabi's or Evelyn's engine). (Subject to change:) Astra's engine is according to Jstern only 2% better than Kaboom from Lucy.
issue is their engines are the same/similar as having astra not on the team, while astra gives QOL with the stuff you said and heals and ease of use, Astra is able not just go into those teams but also other teams now for and in the future adding to her flexibility, and her extra chains/Quick assist spam can have applications we dont know ab now or wanted by future units. Whilst a sig engine is going to be stuck on your main dps and thats ab it.
I think I'm going to pull for Astra over Evelyn since I really need a better support for my teams, and Astra seems like she's going to be a universally useful support
I am dying for Burnice rerun man... Started playing right after her patch is gone... Finished her agent story found out how hilariously airhead but wholesome she is and completely fell for her.
I use this team with Lucy as support, its amazing, it does great damage and is really fun to play as well. Its not as good as miyabi I noticed but still having burnice on the team already makes the team more fun then and other teams
I was going to go for Evelyn and her W-engine, but then realised Miyabi was still insane in the Battle Tower against ice-resistant enemies. Would Evelyn still be as good as Miyabi against fire-resistant enemies? Also Miyabi just has lots of i-frames (so good survivability). So I got her M2 instead, and have no regrets - I will be skipping the next banners until Caesar comes back on a rerun. 🙂
Evelyn, 100%. Hell, to be realistic, Evelyn 1,000%. I had no interest in ZZZ at all because frankly, even though would look pretty good I play both other Hoyo games and WuWa, and just didn't think I had enough time to slide another game in. I saw Evelyn, her animations and design, her incredible outfit and I just had to play the game. So I play now, and it's her fault. I'll roll for Astra as well, if I can, but she is not my priority here.
What about new player? I just started in 1.4, and pulled Miyabi in ~100 pulls. I figure I need another S-rank DPS to cover team 2 of Shiyu comfortably instead of investing on a Support character, does that sound right?
really depends on what characters you have now. But you cant go wrong with Astra. whenever hoyo introduce characters with new mechanics, there will be a few more in the future that work with and will need her. on top of that, Astra is a general support and can work various team. So definitely go for her if i were you.
The way that I see it is, if you got Miyabi and you got ceaser, you do not need Astra. However, if you got pulls having Ceaser and Astra would be better because now you can run two teams that offer attack increases and help sustain. Their both interchangable, one is objectively very slightly more powerful, but both are interchangeable. That being said if you are a whale I mean M2W1 Miyabi+Astra+Burnice is probably going to be best in slot hypercarry team
Caesar buffs only the on-field character, Astra buff everyone at the same time but beside that you will want to use more than 1 team in the endgame content so having both Caesar and Astra Yao on the account is not a bad idea.
You really think Burnice is over Yanagi? Even though Astra can buff everyone i think cause of Nagis immense Disorder Battery Potential for Miyabi she is still better than Burnice.
@@DantoriusD @DantoriusD At M2 Miyabi can create her own frostfall stacks and yanagi becomes redundant. So Yanagi is no longer needed in her team and since Miyabi needs a support without a section 6 member, Astra fits beautifully. Astra buffs burnice's off-field damage. Therefore, potentially the single most broken team in the game. Not to push down Yanagi's potential but she is just a disorder bot who gets hit easy making her team B material at best if you got M2 miyabi.
@@MarkFin9423 i know that Miyabi can create her own Stack at E2. But only at the End of her Combo and only 1. Yanagi can trigger 2 Disorder back to back which gives Miyabi 4 Stacks. I am totally aware of the Fact that M2 Miyabi doesnt really need Nagi anymore but even with M2 i think she is still her BIS Support. I doubt that Burnice Off Field dmg can male up for it.
From what i understand between lighter and astra, she wants lighter alot more, also lighter just has one of the best stun times in the game and dps usually love a fast stunner
I’m pretty sure as of now Evelyn’s best team is with both Astra and Lighter. I think the team u mentioned above should be fine, u don’t need the best in slot teams to clear endgame in ZZZ
Lighter is her best Squadron and therefore Lucy would work as her best support with Lighter included. Otherwise, Astra is of course Evelyn best support which is really a null and void sentiment because Astra will be a general support and buff everyone the same. Yet what do I know….
I have Miyabi, but I need Evelyn in my account next. I could skip Astra, because I don’t feel like I need her. I am really only tempted to get her because she’s a limited support unit and everyone says I should pull.
@ Indeed, but by the time of 1.5 if I only have enough to comfortably pull for one and still get who I want even after losing the 50/50 (200 pulls), I am most definitely skipping Astra. I need Eve….
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Man I like how you talk lol
I remembered having to go through almost my entire watch history to find his video again because i forgot to subscribe 😂
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I know, right? His accent is so... 🤤🤭
even though everyone keeps shitting on astra im going for her anyway. they wouldn't purposefully make their first limited s-rank support a skip so im still going for her, and i dont even have a reason to get evelyn right now.
@@plvto1 who is shitting on astra? lol
@@forsenE obviously i wouldn't say that if it weren't the case, but mainly the discords im in and the conversations i see centered around this topic.
@@forsenE From videos I've seen focused on the two: most people are Evelyn > Astra, kinda similar sentiment when it was Caesar VS Burnice
I guess because they find her gameplay quite slow and Evelynn seems much more interesting.
@@SplittedCorn I suppose, but supports arent really supposed to be fast.. they're not damage dealers, they're buffing the damage dealers. they're not dpses for a reason
Astra needs to come soon, Zhu Yuan has been working at the video store nonstop 😭Evelyn's cool though, pulling her for the saberface
cultured individual
Evelyn is a Saber Face with an Assassin CLass XD
I will definitely be aiming for both.
Returned with 1.4 and im going for Astra for my Miyabi. I wanna Focus on 1 Team first and then went for another one. For the 2nd i still have Harumasa.
A question I have is: how does astra compare to Caesar in terms of buffing
Why all character i like are not top meta? 😭
Great video as always thank you for the information 🙏
Evelyn's engine is insane. 24% CR and 50% CD on all attack units? It might be worth getting if you're the kind of person that runs ZY's sig on Billy.
I already have Miyabi and her engine, so my decision is between Astra and Evelyn, also I have Caesar and not 11, so Evelyn wins for me.
Im a low spender ($5 daily thing and battle pass), but I’m playing like I’m F2P. I’ve already got Miyabi, even if it took a lost 5050 and 170 pulls. I’m prioritizing characters I like over meta. I could keep pulling for more Miyabi to strengthen her or even just her weapon, but I’m saving for one copy of Astra and if I’m lucky one copy of Evelyn too. To me it’s not worth it to pull more of Miyabi when I have future characters I’m really wanting to have.
depends if you care about endgame content, because there's polys and mats to be had that will help you pull and build more characters
@@conradsmith9441 spending =/= f2p
I never heard about ZZZ until I saw a Miyabi release trailer... fast forward... I started playing the game, finished the storyline line, grinded her to lvl60, and now have her at m6w5 with 89 crit rate (I know you only need 80), 145 crit dmg and 2.6k atk. I have her teamed up with m6w5 Piper and m6w5 Lucy or m6w5 Soukaku. I was going to save my pulls for a Yanagi rerelease... if Astra is a good fit for her, I'll probably pull.
We appreciate your funds 🙏
Fun fact: If you get Miyabi M2 she will destroy everything.
Yes this is true….i tried to refrain from going above M0, but after getting M2, I was like “ahh now I understand.”
Yea but if you are f2p or low spending reading this.
Keep in mind that with deadly assault out now you have 3 different teams to invest in.
Miyabi M0 is op enough as is and its better to save your pulls and resources for the other two teams if you arent whaling.
Got Miyabi and want Eve!
Pulling for Evelyn and Zhu Yuan cause fun and hot. Astra would be nice to have though
Eve, Astra and Lucy is my team- eventually, maybe i'll grab Koleda from free standard pick :) All in all those two women are hard to ignore :D
I got Miyabi and her w engine. Im leaning towards skipping Astra and Evelyn but that can change once the next characters are shown.
me watching this video with miyabi and her wengine already and 75 pulls saved for astra right now
@@ericnguyen0419 I have 100 saved plus I will spend money. I wanna be the astra main when online comes out
@@ericnguyen0419 Sheesh 75!? I only got 21 and I'm also trying to get Evelyn so double the pain😔
@@Whoisyou123 i have 100 pulls saved
Is it worth it to get Yanagi signature engine on rerun? So far, I'm using Grace engine on her.
Got miyabi and her engine. I could have skip for Miyabi's engine but it felt like she needed this for huge damage increase. Now I'm wondering if I should get Yanagi's engine too.
I already have miyabi and her w engine so now i go for Evelyn
If ellen and zhu yuan reruns happen, and I want the best dps among them and evelyn who should I pull ?
Go for ellen if you don’t want/have miyabi, zhu yuan is definitely a better option as we don’t have any other ether dps
@Gauri444 I have Miyabi, so maybe not ellen, and am gonna pull for astra, so want to choose between zhu yuan and evelyn solely on the basis of dps, as I like them both 🤔
@@MountYellow2 I mean...never Go for the 1.0 DPS
@@brunobru7083 you mean zhu yuan ? Bcuz they get power crept ?
@@MountYellow2 if you have s11 and like playing her then you can skip evelyn, you can also wait a few days for the next drip marketing and then decide whether to pull or not, if they release a new ether dps then you can skip zhu yuan too and wait for the next patch :3
Since I got Miyabi, next will be Astra. She might be good for Miyabi. As for Evelyn, I'll wait for Sunbringer. I have a hunch she's a fire type attack agent
@@zroux8168 in the wiki it says sunbringer is an NPC
@megjay4550 Bruh. You expect me to believe that a void hunter will be an npc because you found it on wiki? Do you even believe every single information from it?
Sorry if it sounds like I was pissed. I just don't trust wiki that much
I might be skipping both Astra and Evelyn. It depends on if the rumor of the idol group coming after them is true. Im not wasting my polys if the idols are coming.
Personal opinion (you can disagree - I am not here to convince anybody):
Miyabi > Evelyn > Miyabi's Engine > Evelyn's Engine > Astra > Astra's Engine
Reasons - (Numbers are all subject to change, any new version coming out might make this old news!):
Miyabi as frost (ice) damage dealer is rare and she is strong enough to go even against ice resistant enemies. Evelyn is a good fire attacker and is a lot better than anything we currently have. Miyabi's and Evelyn's engines are huge upgrades to them. Astra for Miyabi is easily replaceable by Soukaku (currently Subject to change: 20% damage vs 20% ice damage, 1.2k atk vs 1k atk, 30% crit dmg vs 10% ice shred, minor energy regen QA and minor heal/2chains on ult vs energy regen on ult) for your second team, Caesar if you have her, for your third team Lucy (Subject to change: around 20% less dmg for your team which is still better than not having for example Miyabi's or Evelyn's engine). (Subject to change:) Astra's engine is according to Jstern only 2% better than Kaboom from Lucy.
issue is their engines are the same/similar as having astra not on the team, while astra gives QOL with the stuff you said and heals and ease of use, Astra is able not just go into those teams but also other teams now for and in the future adding to her flexibility, and her extra chains/Quick assist spam can have applications we dont know ab now or wanted by future units. Whilst a sig engine is going to be stuck on your main dps and thats ab it.
I think I'm going to pull for Astra over Evelyn since I really need a better support for my teams, and Astra seems like she's going to be a universally useful support
Ima wait for the broken duo , jane and burnice
I am dying for Burnice rerun man... Started playing right after her patch is gone...
Finished her agent story found out how hilariously airhead but wholesome she is and completely fell for her.
I use this team with Lucy as support, its amazing, it does great damage and is really fun to play as well. Its not as good as miyabi I noticed but still having burnice on the team already makes the team more fun then and other teams
@redsky397 yea ofc , jane and burnice are the second best team after miyabi
Simple answer: Harumasamasa
Harumasa enjoyers assemble.
@@Bogalog yes the one and only one character I ever want to whale for: Harumasamasa (I’m serious).
I was going to go for Evelyn and her W-engine, but then realised Miyabi was still insane in the Battle Tower against ice-resistant enemies. Would Evelyn still be as good as Miyabi against fire-resistant enemies? Also Miyabi just has lots of i-frames (so good survivability). So I got her M2 instead, and have no regrets - I will be skipping the next banners until Caesar comes back on a rerun. 🙂
Evelyn and Astra Yao don't really attract my attention, I'm all for Miyabi.
Can I unpull Miyabi? T.T
Man i would pull for Astra but i don't like her design xD
All for Evelyn and her W-Engine 🗿✌️
Evelyn, 100%. Hell, to be realistic, Evelyn 1,000%. I had no interest in ZZZ at all because frankly, even though would look pretty good I play both other Hoyo games and WuWa, and just didn't think I had enough time to slide another game in.
I saw Evelyn, her animations and design, her incredible outfit and I just had to play the game. So I play now, and it's her fault.
I'll roll for Astra as well, if I can, but she is not my priority here.
I don't know. Astra or Miyabi M2?
Astra imo new units are always better, but id save for that rumored ice support idol
What about new player? I just started in 1.4, and pulled Miyabi in ~100 pulls. I figure I need another S-rank DPS to cover team 2 of Shiyu comfortably instead of investing on a Support character, does that sound right?
really depends on what characters you have now. But you cant go wrong with Astra. whenever hoyo introduce characters with new mechanics, there will be a few more in the future that work with and will need her. on top of that, Astra is a general support and can work various team. So definitely go for her if i were you.
The way that I see it is, if you got Miyabi and you got ceaser, you do not need Astra. However, if you got pulls having Ceaser and Astra would be better because now you can run two teams that offer attack increases and help sustain. Their both interchangable, one is objectively very slightly more powerful, but both are interchangeable.
That being said if you are a whale I mean M2W1 Miyabi+Astra+Burnice is probably going to be best in slot hypercarry team
Caesar buffs only the on-field character, Astra buff everyone at the same time but beside that you will want to use more than 1 team in the endgame content so having both Caesar and Astra Yao on the account is not a bad idea.
@@razor_ct That's what I meant 1 is good both is better. : D
You really think Burnice is over Yanagi? Even though Astra can buff everyone i think cause of Nagis immense Disorder Battery Potential for Miyabi she is still better than Burnice.
@@DantoriusD @DantoriusD At M2 Miyabi can create her own frostfall stacks and yanagi becomes redundant. So Yanagi is no longer needed in her team and since Miyabi needs a support without a section 6 member, Astra fits beautifully. Astra buffs burnice's off-field damage. Therefore, potentially the single most broken team in the game. Not to push down Yanagi's potential but she is just a disorder bot who gets hit easy making her team B material at best if you got M2 miyabi.
@@MarkFin9423 i know that Miyabi can create her own Stack at E2. But only at the End of her Combo and only 1. Yanagi can trigger 2 Disorder back to back which gives Miyabi 4 Stacks. I am totally aware of the Fact that M2 Miyabi doesnt really need Nagi anymore but even with M2 i think she is still her BIS Support. I doubt that Burnice Off Field dmg can male up for it.
Im just gonna get evelyn's engine for my s11 😅
So is astra going to be a better support for Evelyn than lighter? I’m kinda new so my team will most likely be Evelyn, astra and Lucy
I recommend to take a look at the calcs for evelyn tinyurl.com/p5wuswph (Leifa Evelyn Calcs)
If you have any further questions feel free to ask
From what i understand between lighter and astra, she wants lighter alot more, also lighter just has one of the best stun times in the game and dps usually love a fast stunner
I’m pretty sure as of now Evelyn’s best team is with both Astra and Lighter. I think the team u mentioned above should be fine, u don’t need the best in slot teams to clear endgame in ZZZ
um lighter is a stunner quite different from support its lighter into support to buff into evelyn or support to buff then lighter then evelyn
Lighter is her best Squadron and therefore Lucy would work as her best support with Lighter included. Otherwise, Astra is of course Evelyn best support which is really a null and void sentiment because Astra will be a general support and buff everyone the same.
Yet what do I know….
Miyabi + nicole + astra could be a really good team
I might actually get Evelyn, just because she fights like Thoth😂😂😂 (Who else plays Aether Gazer?)
I am gonna try to pull for Evelyn just to have her on my account. ZZZ made me a gooner ,please help me someone.
First limited character support? Hel yeahh
Can you make m2 miyabi guide 👾✅
i keep it simple if i loose my 50/50 it wasnt meant to be
too late to talk about miyabi i already m6 her....
go forr the jiggle. 😀
How about all 3 of them 😂
I just love women with coat so evelyn all the way
Wish me luck everyone 60 pulls 50/50 to get miyabi m2
I have Miyabi, but I need Evelyn in my account next.
I could skip Astra, because I don’t feel like I need her.
I am really only tempted to get her because she’s a limited support unit and everyone says I should pull.
@@ethericdezigns1528 literally same bro
@ Indeed, but by the time of 1.5 if I only have enough to comfortably pull for one and still get who I want even after losing the 50/50 (200 pulls), I am most definitely skipping Astra. I need Eve….
More like: miyabi vs astra + evelyn
gotta catch'em all!! XDDDD
All the doom posting and she's still good would you look at that lol
You sound like nosferatu