3x3 Fewest Moves: Skeletons & Insertions | FMC
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- Read below for types of skeletons, insertions, examples, and special algs!
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► TYPES OF SKELETONS:
► 2 CORNERS:
2 twisted corners: 2 commutators
- 1st comm involves the 2 twisted corners + any other piece in any way*
- now you have a 3-cycle (1 comm)
► 3 CORNERS:
3-cycle: 1 commutator
Example: bit.ly/2Xa8M3X
3 twisted corners: 2 commutators
- 1st comm involves all 3 twisted pieces in any way*
- now you have a 3-cycle (1 comm)
► 4 CORNERS:
2 x 2-cycle: 2 commutators
- 1st comm solves any 1 piece, and involves 2 other pieces in any way*
- now you have a 3-cycle (1 comm)
3-cycle + 1 twisted corner: 2 commutators
- 1st comm solves any 1 piece, and must involve the twisted corner*
- now you have a 3-cycle (1 comm)
Example: bit.ly/2KTmsd4
4 twisted corners: 3 commutators
- 1st comm involves any 3 pieces in any way*
- now you have a 3-cycle + 1 twisted corner (2 comms)
► 5 CORNERS:
5-cycle: 2 commutators
- 1st comm solves a sequence of numbers (123/234/345/451/512)
- now you have a 3-cycle (1 comm)
Example: bit.ly/2Kh4K3T
X (not 5) twisted corners: 3 commutators
- 1st comm involves 1 twisted corner + any of the other unsolved pieces in any way*
- now you have a 5-cycle (2 comms) or 4C (2 comms)
Example: bit.ly/2WLqvzx
► * "Involve X in any way" means you can choose any sticker on X to be used in the commutator. Focus on cancelling moves, to avoid checking all commutator possibilities.
► X EDGES:
Same rules as corners.
Try the special algs listed below to save a lot of moves.
3E Example: bit.ly/2ZprkLk
► 2 EDGES & 2 CORNERS:
Insert J perm or T perm or a cyclic shift of these (details below).
► 3 EDGES & 3 CORNERS:
Insert an alg that solves 3 edges, then rewrite the skeleton and solve the 3 corners (or corners followed by edges).
Example: bit.ly/2KRN3rg
► SPECIAL ALGS (mirrors/inverses/cyclic shifts* are not listed):
Note: Write these as outer turn moves for FMC (you can also use wide moves, written as "Rw" and NOT "r").
Note: You may not get these exact cases while doing insertions, but you can setup to them (like U + 3-cycle + U').
M' U2 M U2 // Edge 3-cycle: 6 moves
M2 U2 M2 U2 // Edge 2 * 2-cycle: 6 moves
(R2 Fw2 R2 Uw)2 // Edge 3-cycle: 8 moves
(Rw2 Fw2 Rw2 Uw)2 // Edge 3-cycle: 8 moves
(R2 Fw2 R2 U)2 // Edge 3-cycle: 8 moves
(Rw2 Fw2 Rw2 U)2 // Edge 3-cycle: 8 moves
M' U' M U // Edge 5-cycle: 6 moves
L2 D' L' D L' F2 R U' R' F2 // 2E2C J perm: 10 moves
R2 Uw R2 Uw' R2 F2 Uw' F2 Uw F2 U' // 2E2C T perm: 11 moves
*Note: you can also try cyclic shifts of these algs.
A cyclic shift of A B is B A.
For example, doing the J perm as D' L' D L' F2 R U' R' F2 L2 (moving L2 to the end) will swap different pieces. You can also move L2 D' to the end only, or move F2 to the beginning only, etc.
► A FEW ADVANCED ALGS (mirrors/inverses/shifts not listed):
These are not meant to directly solve your case. Instead, they transform your case into a new and better case if used correctly. Only consider using these if your insertion speed + fundamentals are solid.
R' F R F' // 3E4C: 4 moves
R U R' U' // 3E4C: 4 moves
- For example, if you have 3E5C, you can insert this alg to solve 3E and transform your 5C into a different case. If 2 corners get solved by this alg, it becomes only 3C!
U // 4E4C (both 4-cycles): 1 move
U2 // 4E4C (both 2 * 2-cycles): 1 move
If I've missed a good alg, let me know in the comments!
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Today, for the first time, I had to google "youtube maximum description length" (which is 5000 characters, and I had 7700 at first).
FMC 2019 (1 competition held all around the world) is this weekend and I hoped to get this last FMC video out sooner but I had to redo it a few times. Good luck to all of you who are participating!
J Perm dude I bet you spent so much time on the description. Really appreciate it.
Thanks I m competing and this is really helpful
Really
Maybe to reduce char count you could apply some dank skeleton or insertions. Or go for the inverse.
Are you going? My plan was originally just to use CFOP, but these videos are coming in hella clutch.
Cubicle at 2018:*attempts to sponsor J Perm*
SCS at 2019:Hold my Cosmic GAN X
Did they really lol
Cubicle: Hold my Angstrom Gan XS
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J perm, I really appreciate you helping me out when it comes to improving my cubing skills and time. You are a great content creator who doesn't click bait but you help me and I hope you teach me more methods that involves CFOP but also changed it a little bit. Thank you J Perm.
He rlly is a great content creator
Okay my brain is toast but good video!
hahaha
Lol same
I think J perm will do FMC critiques for his patron later hopefully 😂
And hedid…
I have been working on incorporating ZZ ideas into my skeletons and so far, EOL dramatically lessens the pain of trying to solve the last edges and you can usually find a good case. EOL can be performed right away or after a 2x2 block, and you can orient the left and right layer solved stuff any way you want since it's a skeleton anyway. For example, I got a 17 move skeleton with 6 corners yesterday and set a new PB (34 moves. I'm not terribly good at cancelling moves lol). Today, I am working on a 19 move skeleton with 5 corners so I am hopefully going to break that PB since 2 extra moves while going from 3 cycles to two is obviously better. In short, orienting the edges early while you still have a lot of freedom in your unsolved layers is worth it because solving the last edges is much easier, and I have also had more luck with corner and edge pairs popping up when switching between scrambles.
Just in time for FMC 2019. Thanks
When Jperm puts so much effort in his videos.
*Bro i really feel that shit.*
Thank you so much! This made me understand insertions
你是有史以来最好的youtuber
U2 M2 U2 M2...
Everyone has accidentally come up with that commutator on their own at some point lol
Valoeghese that’s not a commutator
It actually is
@@elijaht3452 i mean i guess kinda
It was the first one I found^^
i dont think that counts as a commutator because it's 2e2e not 3e not sure tho
I love your content ❤️
Next : J perm have good BLD solve and make full 3-style BLD tutorial
You predicted the future
@@sportacus509 haha, I didn't even remember this comment when I watched his 3-style BLD tutorial
@@sportacus509 noo... I was about to reply that
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when trying R2 U2 R2 U2 R2 U2, always consider that there are three other solutions:
U2 R2 U2 R2 U2 R2
R2 D2 L2 U2 L2 D2
U2 L2 D2 R2 D2 L2
Cool
Their inverses also work just the same
Might be good to mention block comms in the 3E3C section, slicey stuff in the XE section, and rNISS for any complex insertion
This is really next level. At least for my brain. I am practicing commutators, but it'll be a long ride, 'till I've mastered them. Keep it up. I love it! How about 2x2 FMC? Or 4x4 FMC lol
Thanks! Some people have tried FMC for other events but it's not an official WCA event so there's not much incentive to get good at it. I think for 4x4 what people do is a low move count reduction + regular FMC on 3x3, not sure though since it's so rare to see anyone talk about it. For 2x2 I think if you know optimal CLL/EG/TCLL etc. then you just apply those algs.
@@JPerm Thanks to your comment, I just learned about TCLL. But yeah. If the WCA removes feet, they should imo replace it with 4x4 FMC or 4x4 OH.
ah now I see why you made that ggl search ;)
You're the God for making FMC tutorials before FMC 2019!!!!!!!!!!!
THANKS
Nice video
you the hero brah
10:41 that's the edge insertion on the wr
Thank you for this video! I had tried fmc a few times before seeing this, and I kept getting 40s and 50s, the first attempt I did after this was a 31!
2:04 i dont understand it i get f2l minus 2 pairs when i solve pls help
cool video
nice quality
I literally saw the notification while walking home and I started running home with no hesitation lol
Me too
gj
J perm is awesome!!!
Finished watching and i think i am about to get a PB single now
I had a quick question, J Perm. Does the cube in this video (QiYi Valk 3) have stickers? If so, have you experienced them peeling off after awhile?
yes, all stickers peel after a while
J Perm
Thank you! I figured but I just wanted to be sure
You should put statistics for how many moves it takes on average for each kind of insertion
That depends on how long your skeleton is. If you have a longer skeleton there are a lot more opportunities for cancellations
whats with all the fmc?
its a new series because of his official 25 move solution
Also he wanted to get all the videos to before fmc 2019
He still uploads :D
I was low key watching one of your vids and then clicked on this noti 😂
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@@ScotttheCubeGuy hi scott
Hi cookie
This is off topic but I need a good 2x2 so which one should I get I have a gts 3m as my 3x3 main
rathi4u2k4 Valk 2 m is my main and is probably the best
FMC Participation rate increases to 300%
I never realised that 3 style is literally a fmc technique, i use 3 style for blind, but I'm learning fmc later, like blindsolving techniques being used in fmc that's cool
8 veiws already?!? Edit how is that possible!?
It's summer, so I guess no one has anything to do. XD
I love your voice
Also make a vid on slicey shenanigans
I got a 20 move skeleton but it's 4C2E. My plan is to solve both edges and one corner with a J-perm or something like that, then there will be 3 corners left. Will that work?
lol i decided to apply all these new methods to my FMC solves and it took me like 4 hours or so to come up with a good solution and i got 47 moves?! Right before i did this i did an FMC solve with cfop and i got 37 moves. Ironically, all my efforts to be more efficient ended up being less efficient (I had an 18 move skeleton though)
Pls help. I had a 5C commutator and attempted to solve 3 through conjugate. After solving those three I have a sune with all corners flipped? What to do?
can you do renaming the OLLs?
peace perm
The links in the description for the commutator examples arent working. First they link to a TH-cam link, then they direct to a alg.cubing.net with a random scramble and no moves.
thanks! that's weird, I'll try to fix it
@@JPerm No problem, lemme know when you think you fixed it!
I fixed it, try again! bitly did some weird stuff to the links but it seems to work now.
Could you maybe also give some tips on time management for fmc? 1 hour is really not a lot... :-/
I think that comes from experience. In my last comp (2nd time doing FMC) I gave myself 30 mins to do a simple 3-corner insertion because I was really slow at it and messed up very frequently. But now I could probably do that in just a few minutes, so I'd spend more time coming up with creative skeletons and choosing the best one.
J Perm ok thanks :)
Hey, I just started into cubing and I learned 2look oll and 2look pll, and I found myself an alg for the Sune which goes: R U' L' U R' U' L, which could be faster, this one or the original one?
the RU version is faster
how do i go back in the skeleton do i just reverse the moves?
time to learn full 5 style for fmc
Hey, waht is your favourite cube ?
Greetings from Germany
right now my main is the gts2m with mf3rs2 springs. my favorite stock cube is the gts3m!
@@JPerm Thank you
You should change your channel name to V Perm because it is obviously your favorite perm.
How do know is current location or not ?
Current location of what lol
I unterstand nothing and i love it
U should watch Cube Solve Hero's new video. It's about YOU!!
Your 3C link in the description doesn't go to a 3C example
Hey J Perm, i'm in a dilemma. You see, my parents would only let me buy one cube and where I stay, the MF3RS2 M and the Valk 3(without magnets) are the same price. Which one should I get?
I recommend the mf3rs2 m
@@JPerm Thanks!
wt about R2 D R D' R F2 Rw F Rw F2 and mirror for 2c2e ?
Hi
Why do your latest videos look smoother than the other (like FPS)?
I found out I can do 60 fps on my phone!
Legend has it, if you are early
Nothing happens
:o
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i dont understand how to solve the corners of the skeleton can sb explaib plsssss
Would you be able to make an rNISS tutorial?
i'll try
Jay's video (his style of insertions) is reverse niss, you can learn it from there
Hey
Your method is similar to Heise.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Isn’t this the heise method
When I try 5c insertions I try to do your technique but I always lose track of which moves I have done :(... any tips?
On the skeleton? I use a pencil to mark where I currently am, and once I'm about 1/3 through the skeleton I'll go all the way to the end just to see if I made any mistakes.
J Perm oooo that sounds like a good idea! I’ll try that next time :) Thanks!
@@JPerm Apsara pencial?? Lol
really nice cfop solution:
scrambel: F2 D B2 R2 F2 U2 L2 U' F2 D2 R' D2 R B D2 L U' B D2
solve: Z2 U L F' R' L' U' L U Y' R'U R U2 (L U L' U')x3 Y R' U R U' Y' L' U L R U2 R' U Y R' U' R U' (oll) U2
I had with this solution 7-8 sekonds, after the I solved this scrambel 20 times... (My last Mo100 average is 16,85...)
Holy sh*t the description
At 3:47 it shows the commentator is L' U R2 U' , But at 4:15 it shows a different commutator please help
Did you learn how commutators work? They're always at least 8 moves and I wrote it in commutator notation which is not the same as regular notation.
[A, B] means A B A' B'
@@JPerm yes,I thought about it more and I understood it
@@JPerm and BTW thank u so much for responding to my comment
51st!
I cancelled 5 on a 3c officially :)
wow that's really good haha.
on my 3rd official FMC solve I canceled 1 (optimal) on a 24 to 3c (31) but I really wanted a sub-30
this was my first official mean and my first time competing when I actually knew how to do fmc. skeletons were 23,24,24 to 3c and I got 26,30,30
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Hey! Do you think you can help me boost my cubing channel? I really want to start one but don’t know how! Do you think you can give me pointers and tips? Thanks a lot!!❤️
My usual advice for people starting out is to make videos that you think people will want to watch, even if they aren't invested in you as a person. For example, don't just copy what PewDiePie does, because he's allowed to make certain content on the basis that people are interested in him as a person. When he started, he had to have a unique and compelling idea, which was his horror game playthroughs with crazy reactions. So try to find what you can provide that doesn't already exist. Or do what I tried to do when I started, which is find what already exists but try to make it even better.
Early
Before 1000 views???
I mean seriously I m so early
Got here in 1001 views
You forgot the spooky scary skeletons!
Should I start 4x4?
Is 4x4 hard?
Is 4x4 fun?
*help*
start 4x4. if you are in to cubing, 4x4 isn't much harder
4x4 is shit compared to 2x2 and 3x3
@@Immanuel_jijo you mean the hardware?
@@Immanuel_jijo in what way is it shit compared to 3x3 and 2x2
@@nolanl7551 there's no fun in solving 4x4
And ...... PARITY !!
8 views, 17 likes, 14 comments...
TH-cam is drunk again
Am I the only one who is going to a competition in 2 months and has never done FMC and has just gone to this because it was going to have a lot of advanced terms?
Me = Hmm. Maybe I should go to J Perm. Yeah that’s what I’m gonna do.
Me 2 Minutes Into The Video = WTF is an interchange???
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I have done 5 fmc solves, the first 3 using only cfop, i got 2 54 and a 51, then using blockbuilding and oll and pll got a 41, then i just did this scramble with skeletons and insertions. could anyone critique the solve? It was 39 moves.
Scramble: L D L F U' L B' U D2 R' B L2 D2 F2 U2 D2 F' L2 B' U2
Inverse scramble: U2 B L2 F D2 U2 F2 D2 L2 B' R D2 U' B L' U F' L' D' L'
I did F D' R' F D' on the inverse to get my first block
Then on the normal scramble i did L' R U R L, and U2 F' U' F U2 for f2-1
on the inverse i did U' F U to insert the last f2l edge.
this left me with 4 corners and 3 edges. My skeleton was: L' R U R L U 2 F' U' F U F' ^ U D F' R D F'
^ this was my first commutator: F' D' B2 D F D' B2 D
new skeleton: L' R U R L U 2 F' U' F ^ U F2 D' B2 D F D' B2 D U D F' R D F'
^second commutator: F D F' D' U2 D F D' F' U 2
new skeleton: L' R U R L U2 F' U' F2 D F' D' U2 D F D' F' U' F2 D' B2 D F D' B2 D U D ^ F' R D F' R D F'
^ edge commutator: F2 B2 U' F U F' F2 B2 F D' F' D
Final solution( i was able to cancel some moves because of D U D, can cancel to D2 U , and in the edge commutator there were alot of F moves that canceled to a F2) :L' R U R L U2 F' U' F2 D F' U2 F D' F' U' F2 D' B2 D F D' B2 D2 U F2 B2 U' F U F2 B2 D' F' D F' R D F'
39 moves final solution
Looks good, but edge commutators should always be 10 moves (2 slices and 2*3 outer turns). In this case you can do F2 B2 U' F U F2 B2 D' F' D.
You properly canceled it all away so it makes no difference, but just make sure you're only searching for 10 move edge comms (3 moves to solve the odd piece)
Also anytime you get a large amount of corners + edges, you can try doing rNISS as I described in my newest video. There are examples in the description of that video!
Thank you for replying. Ill keep the 10 move limit for edge comms in mind. Also your rNiss vid came out just as a was typing my comment, after i had done the solve, but ill try to use rNiss in my next attempt.
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Vincent C that's not nice.
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Ur actually 2nd lol
How in the world did you comment this 14 hours ago?
Ik right!?
@@stepladdercal8083 look at the time lol
@@EliteCubingAlliance Because I (as well as others) view his video before he post it to make sure everything is in check.
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Your videos are getting worse
Can't understand a thing
Well maybe your IQ is getting worse
I don't do zz that might be the reason
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