Subaru's Problem and How To Reach 200,000 Miles

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  • Subaru Forester and Outback get shut out in the most recent longest-lasting car list. Subaru’s problem may be its success. Subaru vehicles have the potential to reach 200,000 miles and here is how to do it. Read at www.torquenews...
    This is Armen Hareyan from TorqueNews.com. Our Subaru reporter Denis Flierl has a very interesting article discussing Subaru’s problem and why it’s not in the longest-lasting car list since 2016. I will place the link to that article in the description of this video, and please check it out. But before I start discussing Subaru’s problem in making longer-lasting cars, please subscribe to this channel, like this video and stay in touch about my upcoming Subaru and automotive daily updates.
    Last week iSeeCars conducted a study and analyzed over 15.8 million cars sold in 2019 to determine which models have the highest percentage of cars that reached 200,000 miles. The Subaru Forester and Outback aren’t found on any of the lists.
    Subaru had its Forester, Outback, and Legacy models on the iSeeCars Top 10 ranked longest-lasting cars list as recently as 2016. In the 2016 iSeeCars list, Subaru Legacy was number 6, Outback number 9 and Forester number 10. In 2017 the Subaru Legacy ranked 6th on the Top 16 Longest-Lasting Cars list, Outback was 7th, and Forester ranked 8th overall.
    But something changed two years ago. No Subaru vehicles made in the top-10 longest-lasting cars list in 2018 and 2019.
    Actually, Subaru ranks in the top one-third of all brands. In the iSeeCars Most Likely to Reach 200,000 Miles by Make, Subaru is number 7 out of 18 automakers on the list, putting them in the top one-third of all automobile brands. Subaru ranks 0.6 percent of their vehicles reaching the 200K mile mark which is below the average at 1.0 percent, but the Japanese automaker ranks only behind Japanese rivals Toyota at 1.8 percent followed by Honda at 1.6 percent. American automakers GMC (1.4), Chevrolet 1.4), and Ford 1.1) are the other brands ahead of Subaru.
    So what is Subaru’s problem? Why can’t it rank in the top 10 longest-lasting cars since 2016?
    Subaru’s problem is that this Japanese automaker is too successful. Subaru of America has experienced tremendous growth over the last 11 years and this has led to a number of production problems for the Japanese automaker. They can’t build the new 2020 Forester, and Outback fast enough. The main factory in Gunma Japan that makes Forester was shut down in January over a power steering component defect and Subaru’s plant in the U.S. is running at full capacity making the new 2020 Outback and Ascent models.
    Subaru Corporation is aware of the problems and is working hard to get them fixed. A recent Subaru report from Japan reveals they revised their Quality Policy in April 2019 and they are committed to improving quality in its two manufacturing plants.
    Should you be concerned about buying a new 2020 Subaru Forester or Outback?
    Subaru is making quality vehicles and Subaru cars scored ahead of Jeep, Dodge, Nissan, Mercedes-Benz, BMW, Lexus, Hyundai, Volkswagen, Kia, Audi, and Porsche. Are luxury car buyers staying away from Toyota’s premium brand, Lexus because they are number 13 on the iSeeCars list with 0.3 percent of their models likely to last over 200,000 miles?
    As pointed out by an iSeeCars spokesperson, “With the right maintenance and care, all vehicles today have the potential to reach 200,000 miles.” If you buy a new 2020 Subaru Forester compact SUV or 2020 Outback wagon they will go well over 200,000 miles if you show them a little love. Change the oil often, have all major drivetrain comments serviced at recommended intervals, and don’t abuse your all-wheel-drive vehicle.
    Please visit us at www.TorqueNews... and follow us on Twitter at / torquenewsauto
    Please follow Torque News Subaru reporter Denis Flierl on Twitter at / denisflierl
    #Subaru
    #SubaruForester
    #SubaruOutback

ความคิดเห็น • 196

  • @btedd
    @btedd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +161

    It took over 6 min to say "do your regular maintenance" ? Great, thanks

    • @lokoako1104
      @lokoako1104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 i got bored waiting too!!!!

    • @MrSubaru1387
      @MrSubaru1387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      😂 😂 😂 😂

    • @sameeesameee8248
      @sameeesameee8248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lol.. Stopped watching the moment I read your comment

    • @mystupidfacebook
      @mystupidfacebook 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      for some people regular maintenance is skipping an oil change. opening the hood every time they have a problem and blaming the car brand.
      just because you can beat up a old Toyota engine doesn't mean that all engines are to be treated the same

  • @tiredoldman3390
    @tiredoldman3390 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    my 2001 forester just turned 300.000 miles and all ive done engine wise is head gaskets. it uses no oil between changes and runs just great .its one of the most reliable cars ive ever had. regular oil changes and normal maitenance is all it gets and its a happy little car. ill probably buy another subaru soon enough.great cars

    • @samj1185
      @samj1185 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just curious...did ur praise of ur car put a hex on it or are you still going strong?

    • @tiredoldman3390
      @tiredoldman3390 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@samj1185 i still have it and still drive it

    • @neildeatherage2269
      @neildeatherage2269 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha quick where's some wood!!!@@samj1185

  • @EONEILL1987
    @EONEILL1987 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    My mother in law has a 15 Crosstrek with CVT. It's at 230,000 + miles and the only thing its ever needed in its life was replacement of worn out ball bearings in the rear. Car has been flawless and an absolute beast in the snow. We had 18 inches of snow last winter and our generator ran out of fuel. The Trek made it through unplowed highways and exit ramps to the only gas station that was open. We were the only people on the road and in white out conditions on a dark night. We made it to the gas station and back home without issue.

  • @morrisdennis
    @morrisdennis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Just bought a 2021 Subaru crosstrek, it seems incredible

  • @loissemanek1715
    @loissemanek1715 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dry clear and helpful

  • @RiffMasterMike
    @RiffMasterMike 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    This is the TH-cam equivalent of waiting in line at the DMV.

  • @darkh2o716
    @darkh2o716 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Try a Crosstrek as mine has 188k with no issues. It has been where nobody goes and is my go to gold prospecting machine. I will exceed 300k simply by changing fluids and basic care. It literally can go anywhere. Exercise care and do not be afraid to walk a few trails to figure the best way to transverse a zone. I have a 3k prospecting trip coming this month and it will yield solid values. I have Wildpeak A/T tires which are perfect for a Subie and a must in shist zones. Lastly learn to drive a manual as it enhances performance.

    • @EONEILL1987
      @EONEILL1987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My mother in law has a 15 Crosstrek with CVT. It's at 130,000 miles and the only thing its ever needed in its life was replacement of worn out ball bearings in the rear. Car has been flawless and an absolute beast in the snow. We had 18 inches of snow last winter and our generator ran out of fuel. The Trek made it through unplowed highways and exit ramps to the only gas station that was open. We were the only people on the road and in white out conditions on a dark night. We made it to the gas station and back home without issue.

  • @codyzingraf
    @codyzingraf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    My 2002 impreza wrx just hit 200,000 miles and still going strong. 200k on an AWD sports car. Yes they are reliable.

    • @gto11520
      @gto11520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how much did cost basic maintenance on that vehicle?

    • @adembajramov3539
      @adembajramov3539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Junk

  • @HunterXray
    @HunterXray 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I own a 2015 Forester with the 6MT. I currently have 325,000 miles on it. It does burn about 1/2 a quart of oil every 800-1000 miles and has done so even before its first oil change.

    • @918Mitchell
      @918Mitchell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The first vehicle I ever owned was a 1985 Ford F-150 with a 351ci motor, and it burned less oil than my 2012 Impreza.
      My 1992 Chevy Suburban doesn't burn any oil.

    • @flowerasteroid6241
      @flowerasteroid6241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Where the fuck have you been driving to get 325k on a 2015 vehicle

    • @enriquediaz483
      @enriquediaz483 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I own a rav4 and I only do 5000 miles a year
      Doesn't burn any oil ,only regular oil change every 3000 miles

    • @HunterXray
      @HunterXray 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@flowerasteroid6241 I drive for a living. NEMT non-emergency medical transportation. I take people to dental medical psychiatric appointments.

    • @amyisaferry
      @amyisaferry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm at 180k miles and my 2005 legacy has notoriously burned oil as well

  • @EXCELSIOR_INC
    @EXCELSIOR_INC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks, but I'll stick with my 1965 Pontiac Strato Chief, the speedometer has rolled over so many times times
    That I quit counting at 6
    Almost 60 years of trouble free driving
    They quit making them, because they lasted to long
    I bought mine brand new when I was 16 years old

  • @johnhiggs325
    @johnhiggs325 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve got a 2018 Outback with 150k miles. Besides scheduled maintenance, a strut and top coolant hose prematurely failed along with a CV. That’s it.

  • @manhoot
    @manhoot ปีที่แล้ว

    The little soo-bar-oooo. Wow

  • @Uncommonsensetoo
    @Uncommonsensetoo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't understand how they come up with these numbers. Only 1-2 percent of cars reach 200 K miles?? That just can't be right. It does not make any sense. I would expect all cars to last at least that long. My last car lasted 300K miles before there was an engine failure that was not worth fixing and the car went to the junk yard. I figured that was pretty typical. AND how can you determine the number of 2017-2020 cars reaching 200K miles? They can't have been driven that far yet.

  • @bonezhang2941
    @bonezhang2941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    It takes 3 and half minutes for you to reach to the point, and your tip can work for all cars. Give me back my 6 minutes

    • @markt9614
      @markt9614 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. 3 minutes of buildup for that? Take care of your car and change the oil?

  • @717273mopar
    @717273mopar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My 2012 Impreza sport wagon had 245K when I sold it and purchased a Crosstrek. just replaced the radiator, battery, oil every 5K, tires and CVT fluid. Loved the car!

  • @justabrake
    @justabrake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I drove a 2019 forester and it has a great suspension handles nice

    • @Torquenews
      @Torquenews  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, we have heard many great things about the quality of Subaru quality and reliability. Thanks for the comment Steven. I hope you subscribe and stay in touch.

    • @guillermomunoz6947
      @guillermomunoz6947 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stay away from anything with a CVT.

    • @ozzierabbit587
      @ozzierabbit587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Ultra CNC I've had my 2018 Forester for over 2 1/2 years now, with no indication of any oil consumption. For vehicles with oil consumption, checking the oil regularly would warn owners to add oil. Also have had no problems with the CVT.

    • @HunterXray
      @HunterXray 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had the 20 MM stabilizer bar installed on my 2015 Forester and it feels quite a bit more positive going into and out of turns as well as better cross-wind handling. I have driven the 5th generation of Foresters (19/20) and I can tell it needs a bigger stabilizer bar, just as the 4th generation does.

    • @CaptainFALKEN
      @CaptainFALKEN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just got a subaru impreza to beat on in the winter, most problems ever. I should have just gotten a 4runner. Subarus are pieces of garbage. Everything wrong with them. Blowing up all the time because of multiple issues. If it doesn't blow up because of oil shortages all the time, it'll blow up because of low coolant or just going over 3000 rpm. Weak. Most people with subarus have to take apart the car itself just to get the key out of the ignition. Subaru is the worst car you can get now. I even think maybe FORD is doing better in terms or dependability. That's saying something.

  • @patrickclemens7532
    @patrickclemens7532 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My Outback Sport has 338,000 miles, original engine. EJ22

  • @treaves2175
    @treaves2175 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thanks!

  • @pcsbuffalo
    @pcsbuffalo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why take so long to tell us to keep up on maintenance?! Which parts are failing and what EXACTLY is the manufacturer trying to address? The whole point of watching this is to figure out the top issues and you delivered none!

  • @jimhennesseyirishman2010
    @jimhennesseyirishman2010 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subaru is number 7 out of 18 automakers on the list and that puts them in the top one-third of all automobile brands? American Schools Mathematics Teachers believe that you have to be at least number 6 to be in top on-third! Close but no cigar.

  • @juliosdiy3206
    @juliosdiy3206 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Evidently most peeple will not properly service thr subarus causinf breakdown b4 time.

  • @garysanders3193
    @garysanders3193 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What bothers me as an American, Honda, Toyota, and Subaru were were at one time the most reliable vehicles on the road. Now that they all have manufacturers here in American, there are always recalls in all these vehicles. This needs to change, or they need to start making them in Japan again. They say they can't keep up with demand, B.S. was a country have the ability, they just want to spend less, and have people pay more. We, (my wife and I) love our 2015 and 2016 Subaru Foresters. Hopefully the quality returns everywhere! Thank you for the video.

  • @RetrieverTrainingAlone
    @RetrieverTrainingAlone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've owned Subarus since the 1990s and always run them to 200,000 miles. I change the oil every 3,000 miles. The only major problem I've experienced was blown head gasket in older subarus which is a well-known flaw in those older subarus.

    • @mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938
      @mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      all subarus with 2.5l motor.

    • @bto363
      @bto363 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Newer Subaru's too!
      My '15 Legacy was leaking coolant into the combustion chamber. Getting the water pump, timing chain, tensioners, valve gaskets, ect.. all replaced too

  • @riceythemasshole9153
    @riceythemasshole9153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What about the other vehicles like the legacy?

    • @Hallowsaw
      @Hallowsaw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have a legacy, typically its a solid car. I have never had an issue, however, i have only 106k miles on mine.

  • @randomfootages9120
    @randomfootages9120 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sorry That's not true. As long as you change oil and air filter on time and never miss it, believe me it can last more than million miles.
    Just never miss maintenance and take very serious otherwise any car will have problems

  • @user-mn9gl4dv4l
    @user-mn9gl4dv4l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where and how much is a CD player located in a 2021 outback

  • @stevearita3267
    @stevearita3267 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful video, thank you for doing it.

  • @jamesrice6096
    @jamesrice6096 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More than 20 years ago the consensus was that times had changed from cars regularly needing an engine rebuild around 120k miles.
    In short, in the late 90s, if you bought a new car and took basic care (how people then knew to care, not today), there was no reason not to expect 200k miles.
    "If you can't get 200k miles out of a car it's because there was something wrong from the factory"
    Today's increase of complexity, poor quality control, lack of rubustness in favor of lightness and increased MPG, combined with people being only willing to add gas and turn the key makes all this no surprise.
    Today, we can expect reliability that was no better than on the 60s.

  • @michaelzo5428
    @michaelzo5428 ปีที่แล้ว

    My scion Xa just turns 170000 miles without a tinny issue! Not even a light bulb broke!

  • @donk1822
    @donk1822 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have owned a 2005 2.0XN for about ten years, she has 120,000 mile on her and still runs like new. I was so impressed that I gave into temptation and bought her a big brother, a 2008 XT PPP. Probably the last two cars I will ever own. What other car can climb a mountain in the morning, and then give your Evo owner a run for his money in the afternoon? ;)

  • @archhangell
    @archhangell 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this video of yours is very good but wrongly titled

  • @lirider3932
    @lirider3932 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 2007 Legacy wagon. Runs good now but I also just put 15k dollars in it for head gasket two times plus a bunch of other work. 150,000 miles....

    • @boombabitch
      @boombabitch 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      15k lol just get a used car for that

    • @lirider3932
      @lirider3932 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@boombabitch That's total after 17 years buying it new. Let's see what you'll put into your USED car next 2 years before you lol.

    • @boombabitch
      @boombabitch 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lirider3932 ill buy a toyota for 5k and get 150k easily neglecting it lol

    • @lirider3932
      @lirider3932 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@boombabitchGood luck

    • @boombabitch
      @boombabitch 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lirider3932 dont need luck i have toyota you know it

  • @aceforever001
    @aceforever001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you're the kind of person who works on your car, it's extremely inexpensive no matter the vehicle. If you pay for maintenance to be done, your best bet is to trade it in between 60,000-70,000 miles no matter the vehicle.
    I had a Jeep Patriot with a bad timing sensor on the underside of the engine, the shop wanted $550 dollars to replace it. I bought the sensor for $25 and replaced it in 30 minutes after watching a TH-cam video.

    • @Torquenews
      @Torquenews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please, consider following us also on Twitter at twitter.com/torquenewsauto for daily Tesla and EV breaking stories.

    • @Skunked68
      @Skunked68 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I keep telling my wife "EVERYthing is on TH-cam", and lucky me, I’m a visual learner.

    • @sclark1948
      @sclark1948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just learned this the hard way at 2015 Subaru Impreza going 111,000 miles. Spent over $5000 in repairs.

    • @MonkeyPunchZPoker
      @MonkeyPunchZPoker ปีที่แล้ว

      @Skunkers7 Seriously, how did any know how to do anything before TH-cam?

  • @bgunes
    @bgunes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a 2007 Impreza with 350000km (217000miles) on it. Still going strong, but drinks oil for breakfast and thirsty for lunch :-)

  • @krupadrum
    @krupadrum 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simply use quality fs oil and change regularly. Done.

  • @HondaCivicat3AM
    @HondaCivicat3AM ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m at 153k miles on my 2014 outback original everything besides brakes and oil and stuff like that, but it seems like the transmission is going to give out soon, because I am experiencing a 2 to 3 second delay, when I put my car into reverse and drive backwards and then I put it in to drive to go forward, it takes about 2 to 3 sec to respond. I’m prepared when it does. The engine though, fantastic. The only thing I had to replace was the radiator. Because it has a leak. But so far so good.

    • @Buc_Stops_Here
      @Buc_Stops_Here ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you serviced the oil every 36,000 miles, it is probably the solinoids going on the transmission. These are contained in the throttle body on the CVT and it can be replaced for about $750. That will get you to at least 200,000 miles. The solinoids tend to go around 150,000 even if the transmission is maintained. That is the only known fault with the later CVTs they built. Good luck.

  • @maryhelenpineda9060
    @maryhelenpineda9060 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the Subaru crosstreck?
    🤔🤔🤔🤔

  • @rufaimuhammadaminu6873
    @rufaimuhammadaminu6873 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there,SUBARU still battle with HEAD GASCKET and CVT gear system problems. I advise the company to work with either TOYOTA or MERCEDES to give them a hand is checking this issues. They can't perfect everything in cars. We know they perfected SYMMETRICAL all wheel drive which I like,but I am afraid these two issues mey ruin the car integrity of the SUBARU if they don't act fast- Rufai Mohammed Aminu Nigeria

  • @gramail2009
    @gramail2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    topic starts about 3m19s. ran out of patience before he got to any kind of a point though, but let me guess, change the oil more often?!

  • @aceforever001
    @aceforever001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15.8 million cars sold in 2019 to see the percentage of cars which lasted 200,000mi... What's that, like 100,000 miles a year?? Something tells me this study is drastically flawed

    • @Torquenews
      @Torquenews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please, consider following us also on Twitter at twitter.com/torquenewsauto for daily Tesla and EV breaking stories.

  • @inodesnet
    @inodesnet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This list is a very specific list and will show which cars are reliable for a subset of owners.
    To get to 200k miles depends on two things. Firstly, and most importantly that the owner (or subsequent owner) wants to maintain their car that long and secondly, that the car can actually make it to 200k mi.
    What you may have failed to take into account is that Subaru buyers are changing. With an increase in price, the type of buyers are no longer those looking for a cheap, affordable long lasting vehicle (because they intend to keep it that long). The buyers are those that will likely get an Outback now, then trade it in for another one before possibly before it hits 50k miles. The traded in car, gets traded and traded until it’s worthless or written off leading to a vehicle that doesn’t get to 200k miles, not if it’s own accord but because of the type of buyer and use.
    This is the reason the list is almost exclusively full of body on frame trucks whose owners run them into the ground.
    You’ll never find something like a Lexus or Mazda on their (the two most reliable brands in the US two years running according to US consumer reports), because the owners are also now have more expendable income to keep getting new.
    The US market has become a wealthier market year on year since the financial crisis of 08. But truck drivers are truck drivers and the list will always be dominated by trucks now

  • @aguaxv2845
    @aguaxv2845 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hola. Cuando lo tendrán en español

  • @Skunked68
    @Skunked68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We’ve had 5 or 6 Subarus over 30 years. Very few troubles. A couple free recalls. I hear a lot on head gaskets, any one know if the anti-freeze is changed often enough, that helps gaskets to last longer, less corrosion going on?? Dump the CVT fluid maybe every 80,000?

    • @eleventy-seven
      @eleventy-seven 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dump the cat fluid every 40000 miles. That's close to what they say for extreme use but cats hate dirty fluid and you get less then 50% of the old fluid out when you dump it. A quality trans cooler does wonders.

    • @Skunked68
      @Skunked68 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eleventy-seven yes. I agree and did get new CVT fluid in at 44,000 for peace of mind as long as I’m retired and keeping it longer. My mechanic saw the filter bolted on right there once pan removed and requested a new one, said Subaru does not sell new CVT filters. Seems irksome, unwise. We live in town now and drive little. Like 4000 miles per year each max. Winter time I have to regularly put automated battery charger on since we don’t drive far. There must be parasitic current draw for modern electronics computer stuff. Irksome. Same garage and 24 year old Chev pickup never needs winter charge. I’ve switched synthetic oil changes from miles to time, 6 months. We save on gas by not driving far now. Have a good day.

  • @farzamniabaty4798
    @farzamniabaty4798 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The video was nice but I didn't understand what did he meant by "not abusing your 4wd"

    • @amyisaferry
      @amyisaferry 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I assume it means don't abuse the car doing a lot of off-roading? My legacy is too low to do any of that.

  • @oi32df
    @oi32df 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your video did not answer my question about the solidity of their cvt '' all drivetrain component that served at recommend interval '' at 6:03 , does not teach me what to do or not to do with the oil change for the cvt ?...especially since according to the manufacturer no oil change there is required .

    • @markantony3875
      @markantony3875 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is from Subaru of America. Don't listen to them. Get a transmission drain and fill every 60,000 mile at the most. Sooner if you tow.

  • @jameschandler2776
    @jameschandler2776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I h ad an 83 Subaru that went 365,000 miles. After they went to the double overhead cam engines, they have had nothing but trouble with over heating and blowing head gaskets. I love the boxer engine and I loved the old subaru's but will not buy the ones made today.

  • @openscholar9908
    @openscholar9908 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    CVT

  • @fasksaleem4109
    @fasksaleem4109 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi guys am planning to purchase a used a Subaru forester 2017 what is the best advice you can give me?

  • @rbh00723
    @rbh00723 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That sounds a bit obvious. Do your maintenance but what is it that's failing most commonly?

  • @jasoncarpp7742
    @jasoncarpp7742 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an idea: Maintenance! Maintenance! Maintenance! Whether you're able to perform the maintenance yourself or have a service centre do the maintenance for you, it needs to be done if you want the engine, and therefore the car, to run reliably forever. It's just how it is.

  • @milesonwheels8127
    @milesonwheels8127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did he just say Subaru scored ahead of Lexus or my 👂 have hearing issues

  • @johnroberthanna1623
    @johnroberthanna1623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just traded my almost like new 2018 Outback with 153,000 sMiles. Great vehicle and probably should have kept it

  • @jamesmiguel
    @jamesmiguel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow.. regular maintenance ..who would have never guessed it. I had a 2005 Subaru Forester for 10 years . They are very reliable up to 180 km but then start to cost real money to keep on the road. I held on until 230 km and it was 15 years old . I had so much fun in our quebec winters . I loved the car but came to my senses eventualy. Note..my head gaskets unbelievably never blew but the car leaked oil, the moon roof had some trouble closing occasionally, the rear wiper motor gave way. The driver side window motor died. The starter went, the fuel neck was rotting at the top. The exhaust was leaking, the rubber door seals sagged. The driver mirror broke upon tucking it in so I siliconed it in place. The timing belt was do..so were the brakes and tires..subframe rotted but fixed for free by subaru because of recall in U.S...total cost of repairs was higher then the value of the car. It developed a stumbling towards the end and left me stranded but eventually started up again but I. Did not trust it after that..I sold it with great sadness..I got 4000$ cnd ..so good resale . I m looking for another one but for sure not keep it past 180 km.

  • @davidjohn9006
    @davidjohn9006 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, are you saying the 2017-2019 are crap?

  • @muthanuka
    @muthanuka ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8 minutes of statistics and fluff, you never said anything about Subaru reliability or engines

  • @americanhornet4679
    @americanhornet4679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, Correct, Forester, Outback will last…..actually to 300,000mi, long as consumer follows maintenance schedule. Note! From Trusted Dealer! Yes, again…Forester and Outback have longevity if you follow this rule. Problem is ‘other’ models may not reach 200k. Power steering, other issues were corrected with other models.

  • @jo7704
    @jo7704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I want the 6 minutes of my life back. :(

  • @918Mitchell
    @918Mitchell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The benchmark for new cars should be at least 300k-400k, my 1992 Chevy Suburban has over 200k on the original drivetrain.
    I bought a 2012 Impreza new and it lasted 5 years before the transmission failed at 110k. Took care of it, Never missed scheduled maintenance at the Subaru dealership, used it for a daily driver and to go visit my parents in Montana, never raced or abused it. From day 1 it would burn a quart of oil every 1,500 miles and Subaru told me it was normal.
    I like Subaru, I just want them to build better cars before I ever get another.

    • @gregl4453
      @gregl4453 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My father owns 2 vans that he packs with supplies for work and they currently have a bit over 300,000 miles. I own a subaru legacy that currently has 195,000. The transmission failed at 160,000. We replaced it with one with 150,000 miles on it which failed after 10,000 miles. I currently have a transmission with 60,000 miles on it and have added 10,000 miles and is running fine but can feel rough at times. I love the interior of my car and it drives well but the money I have put into this car due to subaru's shitty designing isn't ok. I won't be buying a subaru ever again.:/

    • @markantony3875
      @markantony3875 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@gregl4453 Did you do a drain and fill on the transmission every 60,000 miles? I have a neighbor who only buys Subaru. Some of his vehicles are modified like crazy, so yeah, he is totally into Subaru. He was telling me that Subaru of Japan recommends a drain and fill every 60,000 miles, while Subaru of America say the transmission fluid is "lifetime" which is bullshit. No such thing as any "lifetime" automotive fluid. He had a drain and fill done every 60,000 on all his vehicles and has had no transmission problems in 300,000 miles. I don't own a Subaru, but it sounds to me that Subaru of America is creating this problem in telling customers no transmission service is needed.

    • @gregl4453
      @gregl4453 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markantony3875 I never did. But I did eventually come to realize that the transmission fluid should be changed, and you should disregard the "lifetime" package. Subaru does this go lower the "yearly maintenance costs" of ownership. I am now going to be draining my transmission fluid every 60,000k miles. Sadly, I bought my subaru preowned. So either way, the misinformed buyer before me wouldn't have changed the fluid. The Subaru of Japan standard for transmission fluid changes should be spread as much as possible. People don't have the money to replace transmissions every 5-10 years. I find it repulsive that Subaru of America chose to increase buying incentives this way. (most likely a dismissible amount of sales increases). Although, I still love my Subaru lol.

    • @dobledekersoulwrekr
      @dobledekersoulwrekr ปีที่แล้ว

      @Greg :l Had a 2013 Legacy that I put 182,000 miles on. The didn't leak oil, was Fluid Filmed from day 1, changed the cut Fluid at 95,000 miles and the trans just went. To spend $5k on a car with 182k doesn't seem smart. So I gotta buy a new car. Loved the Legacy, but screw Subaru

  • @TheIsaacPalmer
    @TheIsaacPalmer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    According to Forbes (2019), Subaru owners: A) are among the most credit-worthy applicants for non-luxury brand auto loans; and B) have prime credit scores. I'm sure Subarus are well built for the most part; however, I suspect those credit-worthy Subaru borrowers having their finances in order enables them to pay for repairs and scheduled maintenance on time, thus keeping their Subarus running better for longer.
    Nah. Subarus last longer because their owners are always adding fresh oil lol.

  • @NscaleCSXandRioGrande
    @NscaleCSXandRioGrande 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a load of crap. Service on time I've had two subarus bith done well over 500000kms with next to no issues. Like everything you don't service they will fail

  • @williamevans6522
    @williamevans6522 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    178000 miles on a '17 2.5i Forester.
    No problems.

  • @mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938
    @mudejartrainingnaturalscie6938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Replace the powertrain every 50k miles.

  • @jeffrobodeen400
    @jeffrobodeen400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If I'm hearing you right...you're jumping around and mixing the year in which testing was done and the actual production year of the cars tested....certainly you're not going to have many 2018 production year subaru's with 200,000 miles on it yet to be tested if the tests were done in 2019 or 2020. Am I missing something here?

    • @Torquenews
      @Torquenews  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeff, you have a good point there too. I said that was only part of the problem. But you have a good point too. That means we need to looks into something else as to why Subaru's are not top rated. However, look at the last paragraph that I am talking about. It's not bad at all.

    • @gregnixon1296
      @gregnixon1296 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Perhaps if Subarus were used as taxis, you would find 1-3 year old models on the 200k mile list. LOL

  • @dobledekersoulwrekr
    @dobledekersoulwrekr ปีที่แล้ว

    Bought a 2013 Legacy, Fluid Filmed the underside to stop rust, changed the oil myself every 3 to 4 thousand miles, changed the cvt fluid at 100,000 miles and the trans just blew up at 182,000. The car is mint everywhere but the trans. But it'll cost 5 to 6 grand to fix. I got a full 5 months of no car payment before it blew, now i have to start all over and buy another car. I've seen tons of stories like mine. Screw Subaru

  • @farmman61
    @farmman61 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ANY car will make it to 200K miles if you do the proper maintenance. Nothing new here!

  • @DeuceDime
    @DeuceDime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "13% of their mothers likely to last over 200,000 miles" i had to rewind. Them captions tho.

  • @zabamaz103
    @zabamaz103 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    200k miles? Tsss my accord has 340k I got with 180k just change oil and put gas…ohh replaced a set of tires, still run like when was at 180k miles

  • @bobhebblewhite1685
    @bobhebblewhite1685 ปีที่แล้ว

    look again.

  • @TommyBlazeHD
    @TommyBlazeHD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still doing your maintenance doesn’t work! Our Outback has always been serviced on time by the dealership and I have to shell out $5k to fix the cylinder head gasket issue and new radiator.

    • @vladybeat4076
      @vladybeat4076 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like it's worse than bmw 😂

  • @marcorecchia6447
    @marcorecchia6447 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why?!?

  • @nicolafachin9802
    @nicolafachin9802 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you can cheat by change oil regukar and change spark plug revery secon service change oil filter try and get good quality oil filter oil spark plug like castrol pen rite agip.

  • @Buc_Stops_Here
    @Buc_Stops_Here ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Modern Subarus need more maintenance than the older ones. For example, Subaru recommends in America that you never touch the CVT transmission oil. Most mechanics who know the CVT say you want the car to last 150,000 miles without a CVT problem, replace that transmission oil every 36,0000 miles. Even then, expect the Throttle Body on the transmission which contains the solinoids will fail around 150,000 miles which will cost about $750 to fix. If you are willing to do both things, then the CVTs Subaru sells can get you to 200,000. If you don't, then the clutch will fail before that point, and you will need a new transmission costing a few thousand to fix. Even doing all this the transmissions tend to fail with maintenance just past 200,000 in many cases.

  • @airmanma
    @airmanma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No shit Sherlock. Fukin genius.

  • @xalexanderx7342
    @xalexanderx7342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luckily I was taking a dump while watching this so I didn’t waste to much time, I am multitasking lol

  • @justabrake
    @justabrake 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where is this list link please

    • @Torquenews
      @Torquenews  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Here is the link Steven. Thank you. www.torquenews.com/1083/toyota-dominates-list-longest-lasting-models-your-toyota-list

  • @gffriedman
    @gffriedman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Number 7 out of 18 isn’t top third.

  • @lokoako1104
    @lokoako1104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🤣😂🤣 Be advice! skip 6 mins!! to skip subaru history!!!

  • @alfredktn
    @alfredktn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the comments.. didn’t bother to watch the boring video!

  • @terryosowski8143
    @terryosowski8143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    200,000 miles is not good enough! My neighbor has a 2004 F150 with over 300,000 miles and his wife has an Infinity Q35 also with over 300,000 miles !!!

  • @etx007blue2
    @etx007blue2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problem is CVT, period.

    • @markantony3875
      @markantony3875 ปีที่แล้ว

      Only if you never replace the transmission fluid. No transmission will last if you don't replace the fluid.

  • @concernedcitizen2898
    @concernedcitizen2898 ปีที่แล้ว

    Susbaru is headed downhill. 2024 moving forward is going to get ugly.

  • @necessaryJustice_4all
    @necessaryJustice_4all ปีที่แล้ว

    K. What about 2017, 2018, and 19? 😆 🤣 Plus. How do they reach these conclusions on cars that are barley 4-5 years old? 🤔

  • @summerman2
    @summerman2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much is maintenance? After 100k?

    • @aceforever001
      @aceforever001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're the kind of person who works on your car, it's extremely inexpensive no matter the vehicle. If you pay for maintenance to be done, your best bet is to trade it in between 60,000-70,000 miles no matter the vehicle.
      I had a Jeep Patriot with a bad timing sensor on the underside of the engine, the shop wanted $550 dollars to replace it. I bought the sensor for $25 and replaced it in 30 minutes after watching a TH-cam video.

  • @sonofsandwiches6892
    @sonofsandwiches6892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:55 "Change the oil Regularly." Wow, I never would have thought of that!!

  • @bobbybass1944
    @bobbybass1944 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I live in NH and my outback in the winter time is a blessing . AWD got love it !! Change your oil regularly and get a tune up once a year or depending how many mile you drive and you will be fine . 2.5 is a great engine and gas mileage is good for AWD .. The only reason why I bought a outback and not a forester is the outback is built on a truck chasse better for towing ..

  • @johnboy425
    @johnboy425 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gee , a 2018 subaru hasn't gotten over 200,000 miles !? In 3 years !!?? Are you insane ?? How many miles do you drive a year 70 ,000 ??? Good God where do they find these idiots !! My 2007 Forester has 218,000 it took 13 years !!

  • @bernecomp
    @bernecomp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buick one of the most reliable? Somethings out of whack here.

  • @mrrichards6007
    @mrrichards6007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have any of you noticed dents in your front qtr. panels. of your brand new Wilderness Outback? Please reach out so we all can get this taken care of, by Subaru. We think it was a bad batch of thin metal they used to form the body panels. If we stand together we can get this factory problem fixed. Thank you.

  • @CaptainFALKEN
    @CaptainFALKEN 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have an '09 Tacoma. Why am I watching this? 😅😅😅

    • @baibarskhan4338
      @baibarskhan4338 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      even in my country there is no subaru :D

    • @car24dude
      @car24dude 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You must wanna switch to a better vehicle.

  • @remissiveslave
    @remissiveslave 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Won't make it to 200 k without costly repairs. Just simply reality.

  • @jsix2404
    @jsix2404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ahead of lexus....hmm...call bulshit

    • @markantony3875
      @markantony3875 ปีที่แล้ว

      Toyota's quality isn't like it was 20 years ago.

  • @dannylinc6247
    @dannylinc6247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    He doesn't talk about the repairs your engine pistons, rod bearings, and gaskets will need.
    A complete teardown for noise from the engine is required to get to the most difficult parts that have failed on every one I have seen with noise. There are also external causes of similar noises that mimmick internal issues.
    It takes attention and careful diagnosis with research about the specific year, displacement, and type of noise and what's required to reproduce it for isolating it's cause.
    A second engine built and ready to install would not be a bad idea if you could come by the parts, tools, and know-how at your home garage.
    It gets really simple once you have pulled one, and have the things you would need.
    If you enjoyed repairing your own vehicle, and feeding parts to one, the way they are on the road may be the enjoyable reward for all your labor and attention.
    If you're paying out of pocket to a tech, it is going to be expensive once you start to approach 80k.
    Not every car and every engine are exactly the same, but many of them have engine repair and later, issues deeper in the rotating assembly are found to need repair.
    Pulling it out and tearing it down fully in the first place can lead to more success saving parts and labor.
    You can short block one and build it on a stand and have it ready to go in when the noises start bothering you.

  • @EduardoGonzalez-jo9ug
    @EduardoGonzalez-jo9ug 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haD one 600 000 not problem

  • @jdevoz
    @jdevoz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    200,000 miles if you add a quart of oil every thousand miles to compensate for all the oil burning in their engines.

    • @oddities-whatnot
      @oddities-whatnot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joseph DeVincentis what a load of rubbish.

    • @hwyman01
      @hwyman01 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like you have an EJ engine

  • @anthonybarragan1687
    @anthonybarragan1687 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In mother Russia, Subaru drive you

  • @EduardoGonzalez-jo9ug
    @EduardoGonzalez-jo9ug 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is fake video

  • @adembajramov3539
    @adembajramov3539 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    200.000miles 🤣🤣🤣 audi mercedes bmw alfa romeo teach more 50000km

  • @marcovdabeast
    @marcovdabeast 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blah blah Maintnence blah blah

  • @Sazonman
    @Sazonman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    basically anyyyyyyy car with cvt and turbo totalllly suck, avoid like the corana 19 ;)😂😂😂😂😁😁

    • @RexinOridle
      @RexinOridle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So basically don't avoid it at all???

  • @imports4lifetoyotalexus98
    @imports4lifetoyotalexus98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Subaru need to stop making boxer engine and start making 4 inline and 6 inline. It will be more problem that will never be solved. Even though they released their new engine 2.4L turbo in Ascent, Legacy and Outback. It will still going to have a problem with the engine issued such as blown gasket, valve spring, pcv, and etc. Soon or later they will have a recall in the near future for 2.4L turbo because they already started having a recall on all of the 2.0L on model 2018 and up. Even though Subaru got the best AWD in the world but dont mean anything because they need to fix blown gasket issues and bad valve spring on their vehicle. Good luck Subaru.

    • @thomasward00
      @thomasward00 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      There is nothing wrong with the Boxer engine design.

    • @VKSgtSLaughter
      @VKSgtSLaughter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed! The boxer engine is an outdated design that was put into mass production by Volkswagen in 1938. It's ancient 82 year old technology that can only be modernized so much.
      The boxer engine's flat design is also its biggest downfall, as it's very complex and has more moving parts than a traditional engine. The boxer design is constantly fighting gravity which causes the pistons to wear unevenly, and fluids to pool towards the bottom of the engine, creating hot spots. This causes the piston rings, cam seals, bearings, head gasket, and oil seals to prematurely wear out over time.
      I bought a brand new SH Forester and I am very happy with it, but the car is already on it's second engine at 50k miles.
      If Subaru used straight 4 cylinder engines, the vehicles would have less problems and last much longer.
      If only Toyota and Subaru would team up, you have the best engines with the best all wheel drive systems ever! 😉

    • @imports4lifetoyotalexus98
      @imports4lifetoyotalexus98 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VKSgtSLaughter I agree with you.

    • @arthurfernandes2402
      @arthurfernandes2402 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The boxer engine is what separates itself from other manufacturers. The boxer design is unique to the Subaru lineup. I haven’t heard any modern Subaru (2015+) with head gasket issues. I currently own a 2019 Crosstrek and the car has been great. Some of you guys continue to bash a company that has improved its quality in the past 15 years. That’s my two cents. If you know how to take care of your car you should be able to make it to 200,000 miles.

    • @lizh9009
      @lizh9009 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@VKSgtSLaughter What year was your new Forester and would you buy a new Forester today?? I'm trying to decide between a Honda or a Subaru SUV. The issues with boxer engines seems to be the downfall, the lack of parts and mechanics who work on them after the warranty is up and having to buy parts at a dealership.