Are Black Men Failing Black Women? - Cocktails with Queens
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- Syleena Johnson, Vivica A. Fox, Lisa Raye, and Claudia Jordan openly discuss the roles and responsibilities of Black men towards Black Women (i.e. perpetuating unrealistic beauty standards and expectations instead of uplifting Black women)
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I will honestly tell you as a 46 year old black man . Until , I learned how to deal with my pain , abandonment issues and trauma . The only thing I could truly offer a sister was d:ck and dollars . Therapy changed my life and the very kind of black women that I avoided is the kind of woman I’m attracted to. Plus , since I knowi how to help a sister work through her stuff , I’m no longer repelled by it
Reggie Said it Wooowww I applaud your honesty! You should share your stories on a platform for other black men. Way to go Reggie.
Hi Reggie. Congratulations on you owning you and supporting yourself and loving yourself, enough to put yourself in therapy. Whenever you’re ready, if you’d ever like to share your story, I’d love to interview you please and thank you? I’m a small TH-camr just starting. I want to use my platform to get the conversations going. I put myself in therapy when my daughter was 2 (2019) bc I really wanted to do things differently and knew I needed help in doing so. I understand that you don’t represent all men, but your journey is important. Thanks for you comment. Randombooze@gmail.com
Reggie that's awesome I'm working on me as well.
Only if more women were like you and could accept responsibility for the decisions they make
Channon Johnson ..... Thank you , I’m working on that.
Whats even more wack, is that if black men turned around and had this same conversation, for public ingestion, just like this, we would be told “how dare us tear down black women?” Smfh
Oh we would be all types of misogynists and women bashers
@Tasheri are you talking about Cardie B ,Meg the Stallion, Nicki ,
@@marcomarr9385 Lmao another excellent point made. "hot girl summer" rings a bell?
@@marcomarr9385 Bro you definitely deserve an award for this comment! It was so right on time!😂😂😂😂🤣🥇🥈🥉🏅🏆
Georgio Casper
Look him up NAKERS
Still haven’t heard them say why they’re relationships failed!!
ABCs Over Everything that’s easy!!! Just Blame the Black Man
Syleena definitely said something bout that but ok smh
Their *
Nobody ever talks about the mental and physical abuse that young black boys go through by their mothers in these single parent house holds. You can tell how a mother treated her son by the way he treats women.
The mirror is the reason. UNFORTUNATELY, BWs would rather take their own eyes out with a spoon than admit fault! THEY BELONG TO THE STREETS!!!
They cut it off when Vivica was giving wisdom... don’t fix or build a man, accept him for who he can’t be for you and move on.
this sounds like gold-digger talk. love a man for who he is as a person & human being & not for money or what he does for you... thats how women end up like Lisa Raye.
@Big Wig simp talk.
It seems like it’s ok for a black woman to receive all the fixing and building a man provides her and not the other way around ..you don’t see any other nation of female bashing their men yet these men have done nothing but enslave rape Murder and get away with it ..they just have power I speak of the white asian and Arab that currently run the world now if black men had the support of their women things might be different but we never have and it’s painfully obvious we don’t and never will it’s not about building a man it’s about building our community are black men perfect? Hell no but we’re not the only ones that can improve white men white women and black women take no responsibility or blame for anything it’s all on us
@human being what makes you say that, that's an interesting comment.
@@kingjames9875 black women have been supporting black men for decades, decades and you know it. We still get the short end of the stick. how many sisters have helped build a brother up and he left her for a white woman! How many?? so don't say that we're not supportive because we are. I know women who have taken in broke men broke in spirit broke in the wallet no education no driver's license, his non paying child support ass has nothing but the clothes on his back along with his 55 inch TV and his video games. Sad. I hang up the phone from listening to my girlfriend's woes and I listen to the peace within my house because I don't deal I drama. I've never let a man live with me I don't tolerate the bull that's why I live so well and I have everything that I have because I've never let a man bring me down. men see what I have and they want to try to get with me I'm not stupid my eyes are wide open not even shut wide open to the games. No baby, you won't be moving in this six bedroom house there's no room for you and I live alone!!! I'll be damned if you think you're going to drive my car's and get my babies towed.
So yes black women have always got the black man's back always and they always get jacked up in the end.
Maybe it is as simple as, what women claim they want isn't necessarily what they need.
Hmm.... give an example...
Yes please elaborate . We are listening.
Hmm🤔🤔
Women say they want a man that is very attractive, yet most women can't deal with the reality that those type of dudes all sought after by a significant portion of women. Women have unrealistic standards. You want a man desired by a lot of women, but you want him to only want you. Good luck with that. 2- You want a man that has a lot of money but you want him to only want you. The only thing better than old vagina is new vagina. You want a so-called bad boy until reality hits you, usually by children, weight gain, or age. Then you require more substantial things from decent dudes than from the dudes that got your most attractive years. Good luck on that.
@@MrLeonrobinson dammm u said a month full.
The wall is undefeated...every athlete has their wave....its funny how these group of ladies want to be submissive towards the end of their smv....lol
There you go
But what's wrong with them wanting to let their guard down? Isn't that what's suppose to happen after these conversations? Learning how to help build a healthy relationship with each other.
Tiffany Rayne nobody wants ran threw Thots in their 40s!
@@aspen7887 wow smh
@@TiffanyRayneOfficial i agree
I'm proud of these comments .. I see alot of black women in here that's not falling for that black men are the enemy game .. this gives me hope for our people
They aren't the enemy but they do need to step up... A lot of them are lacking.
@@carmillastephens9497 Black women need to step up too and take accountability instead of blaming everything on Black men.
@@DiverseLA and there it is... Black men are supposed to be the leaders of the community UNFORTUNATELY to many want the respect & title no responsibilities of being a leader.
These women blame everyone but themselves for their downfall and bad choices..No accountability at all..smh
And what accountability do you have behind the keyboard 🤔🤔🤔 I'll wait because you sound like you haven't felt a woman's touch in awhile.
@@ivanidodge5164 Stop it. Name one thing Black women are responsible for.
@@robertyeah7280 Name something black men are responsible for besides being on the DL in these relationships with women. Let's talk about that.
@@ivanidodge5164 They are no more on the DL than Black women are. Lets talk about it. And they cant be that much on the DL since you cant keep your legs closed to them. Lets talk.
@@robertyeah7280 my legs are closed to those type of men. I know I struck a nerve so now you want to flip the script. Goodnight Roberta
The problem is these women are saying they will treat the “right” man like a king but they are looking for the wrong things in a man to say he is the right man, ladies need to hold themselves accountable too
Amen
You said a mouth full. Let’s start with accountability. If you have a relationship or marriage that ends it’s easy to say oh it was he or she’s fault. In this case it’s a bunch of women that has had a or multiple failed marriages and are blaming the man.
True.......victim bs
But,You guys annoy me a little because everyone of you have got that one homeboy or a few that you know that are what these women and others are talking about.They are triflin and yall talk about them too.lol Because to be honest as a women I know some women that are like the females yall are talking about.And us sistas talk about them too.If we just be honest we can have a real convo.
Comedian SILAS agree agree agree!!! Accountability is EVERYTHING. We need to stop blaming and look within and make the changes where necessary
The wall is undefeated!🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱🧱🤣
A lot of these women in their 20's love acting up but this is how they will all eventually end up 😂😂😂.
Women age like milk! 😅
@Tasheri Viagra works very well.
@Tasheri thats more of a white boy problem but it aint THAT common alot of old black men still slanging wood. And you know it
@Tasheri Who told you that goofy shit a person health is determined by that person....You are what you eat.
All ladies have to do is check the results and what they are doing is not working but they will never admit it
Thats called taking accountability. Can't do that.
Because it’s always the females fault? Got it. Lesson learned........
@@shonab36 you really don't get it, there are already more black women than men, you all are already from birth at a disadvantage, no count the gays, guys in prison, guys that don't date black women, ect. and only 25% of black women are married and the number keeps dropping. Yet, black men are telling you all how to fix it but black women are too hardheaded to listen. Good, enjoy the results.
@@tipsandtricks6071 💯
@@tipsandtricks6071 there are always more boys born than girls. There are many gay females and females with multiple kids by different fathers.
7:18 oh really?🤔🤣🤣 could've fooled me. All I heard was bashing, and how "black men" failing "black women"
It's pretty much over for Black love. Too much masculine energy and stubbornness on both sides.
@FRANK CASTLE nonsense. Feminism was started by white women talking that same nonsense to white men. Sit your ignorant ass down. Black women should have never jumped on that train. All they gotta do is make better decisions about who and when you make babies . This was a weak cop out discussion that makes bitter chicks feel good about their relationship failures by demonizing a whole race of men. Weak
@FLgirlinTX We had a very respectable community when men were in most homes. Many women chose govt assistance over a man. So not many men in our community and its pure chaos.
FRANK CASTLE well they have used the government to remove the men out of the community with the use of government assistance, child support, public acceptance at the largest percentage of any race. they have chosen power over cooperation. A report was written in 1965 that predicted this, Moynihan report was dismissed and ridiculed but was it accurate? Guess it’s based on interpretation, but no men raising boys, equal no men. These men are learning to be masculine from women, music, and TV. Some cities at a clip of 80 plus percent. Sometimes you should ask why your comment may or may not be accurate
So true about black love being over.
Dream Chasers that’s is complete Bs. No women is gonna kick out a man who is providing for government assistance. Like really you gonna blame the government for your failures to be a man, to protect and provide. Like I’m so done with y’all black men because you blame everybody else to the reason why you can’t succeed in life. If you are doing what your suppose to do as a MAN. We can rest in our femininity, but you told us to go out and work so if the government is gonna help because you lack the proper basics then yes us black women are gonna do that. Cause clearly you lack provide, and protect.
Love my Black women but pretty tired at this point hearing how Black men are F ups and Black women are better. We should be working together
simp.
@@bnwo Mutt
@@sirlesterthetrollslayer6979 simp.
Don't want to keep hearing it, Then *STOP* being Fk ups❗❗Plain & Simple❗💯 Y'all been babied enough, time to step up & *MAN TF UP* period ❗
@@bnwo Pitbull
Why is this so openly discussed? Do they talk about Latin men not loving Latin women on Univision or Telemundo? This is depressing 😩
Exactly. This is more like a closed family discussion. I'm catching second hand embarrassment just because I'm a black America. Depressing indeed...
We can't be ashamed of our pain or the process by which we overcome it. Hopefully their public discussion will create private dialogue that changes things.
furthermore why is a mixed woman leadind a black female/male relations conversation??
Latin , white men dont DOG they women on a global scale like BM do!
@@submissiveproviderstboth9485 this is exactly the opposite I dont hear black men on national tv belittling black woman.
I didn't hear one shred of accountability for their own actions. I heard, his fault, slavery fault, mama's fault
@human being I wish could be. My whole reason for coming here was to give them the benefit of the doubt that accountability for personal actions would develop somewhere in the conversation, but 🤷🏾♂️
It’s black Women what do you Expect ? 😂
@11STARFIRE Not necessarily. I've seen many content creators and even semi-mainstream shows that ask this question in reverse. Quite often there is at least one man on the panel that focuses the accountability back on to us. I was hoping for that to occur here, but like I stated in an earlier reply 🤷🏾♂️
Accountable for what.? Maybe you should start a talk about your grievances like these ladies instead of finding fault. Are you acknowledging your accountability on what they said. This is how nothing ever gets resolved NOONE does.
But she said the women are not raising the boys but just loving them. Did you hear that part and just want to bitch or no???
"This is not a Man Bashing session" - How disingenuous.
@MsZoomification that's not telling the truth. If you want to know the truth and you are patient enough. I will educate you. That's women ranting and making no sense.
@MsZoomification first let's start with the stats. Black women are the least desired in the sexual market place. This is a concern black women need to address. Before they blame anyone else, black women need an introspection of themselves.
@MsZoomification your reaction is not shocking or surprising. You could have easily refuted my claims with empirical evidence. However, you choose to expose your ignorance for an answer just seconds away via google or any open-source research. Please don't believe your hype because I'm well educated than you. I know this based on the number of degrees I have, my exposure and research, and your inability to hold a rational discussion.
@MsZoomification I started my comment with how disingenuous those women are and how black women in America need to look at themselves to understand why they are the least desired in the sexual market place. You pivoted to talk about how black men end up in jail/prison and to you that's staying on topic or very relevant to the discussion. I wonder what kind of education you had. You saw my name and felt it's in your place to let this African know and want to label me as uneducated and when I called you out on how ignorance, stupid and poorly educated you are, your view changed. Guess that's a paradigm shift for you. Typical ignorant black american woman.
@MsZoomification Do you mind reading your comment again. First, I'm a black man. I know many black Americans of slave decent think they are the only black people on earth else you would not refer to demographics. Second, you probably have no clue of where I reside - again you see why I refer to you as being ignorant and I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I believe, but I maybe wrong, only one lady in that group has a man (second husband) and when they and you speak of lack of leadership or maturity on the part of black men, I really don't know the kind of black men you and those ladies are referring to. The black men I know exemplify leadership traits, maintain their family structure, are highly educated, hardworking and owners of businesses. Again, conduct a proper introspection on yourself so you can ascertain why you are attracting immature black men into your life.
I'm so sick of everything being blamed on black men.
Even the white women blame the white men for their issues. That's the way women are. They will never accept responsibility. Show me one woman who accepts responsibility and I have an ocean to sell to you.
🙄🙄🙄🙄 oh fucking well
@AMG BOYZ if you want my advice. Don't listen to women.
@@justemeka yea don't listen to ur mama
@@danekacampbell3524 my mom is late. When she was alive and spew some BS, I don't listen. As a man I have the discerning ability to filter trash.
Why do black women constantly talk bad about black men for the world to hear all the time bro it's very messed up.
You must be new to the internet? i see this a hell of a lot more from black men. Hell some ppl have literally build careers from it.
go away very new
@lovey dovey how come black women don't have children by their husbands? Women of ALL races, when they're worth a fuck,they don't just have children. They have children by an established husband. Examples: beyonce, Janet Jackson, jada pinkett, Michelle Obama etc. And by established i don't necessarily mean a man of power or wealth,but just a man. Y'all fuck a nigga you know ain't about shit or literally don't know at all and expect him to be a good father. Y'all really need to stop living in these weird delusions.
Meh, they have a right to do what they want. But passing the buck is the real issue. "Its not our fault, its someone elses fault that we act pike this". Smh
Mike Waves we do and we know you guys are repulsive liars. See how you deflect and put the blame on us but never the man because it’s so easy to blame the women for everything that’s it’s getting really tiring at this point. I never dated a thug, and yes I’m from the hood but I’m not ghetto or ratchet either. There are no good black men at all, you guys are all the same. You abuse us and you wonder why we hate you.
It's not all blackmen as whole responsibility to protect you from your bad decisions. The bad decisions that you ladies made is on you. Black men didn't failed you ,you failed yourselves through your decisions in the type of men you women have chosen. Eyes straight ahead (sysbm 4 life).!!
Lamont Ellis but they are choosing those men based on the type of father (Man) that raised them or didn’t. So yeah it starts with a man
No, it's an equal thing. Chicken or the egg. Instead of placing blame, break the cycle. Remember one thing....you cant give what you dont possess.
@@cherokeewhitemilner THAT PART!
I guess ALL races of women don't know how to choose right then, because everyone from every race is choosing the WRONG black man period.
What does the right bm look like. How can one avoid the bad ones?
*Dr. Frances Cress Welsing* and *Dr. Sharazard Ali* would have a totally different opinion....
@Jerry Williams Yes indeed
@Ernest Ward Whoever said that deleted that comment.
@Ernest Ward 💯
yup she should have Dr Shaharazad in this discussion
@@blaqpearl4403 That would've been too deep for Fox! I love the ladies on this panel, but it's still ran by *FOX*
Women don’t have accountability or integrity that’s A mans trait
I feel sorry for black women because they actually are amazing and truly mean well, the the concept of “accountability” just has never been introduced to them because of the lack of men in your lives. It’s the men that teach their children “linear reasoning.” And it’s the women that teach her children “emotionality." Black American women don’t hold themselves accountable but the reality is they don’t have the capacity to... it sounds harsh but I do love them regardless, their trying and they have weakness just like we do
@@Obi431 problem is you're asking me to take accountability for actions that aren't mine. 🤷♀️
@@Obi431 Many women raise children.You have to have accountability to be a parent therefore you could not be responsible for someone else.And you cant speak to all the women in the world not having fathers thst participated in their lives or what older male relatives were involved if a father wasnt present.You cant make that statement because you dont know that for sure.How do men know about accountability when they are some of the most selfish human beings I've come in contact with?Many of them take no responsibility for anything.Its all over these comments.I know you tried to chime in with your two cents but this conversation is out of your league.
facts
Mega E Women hyper sexualizing themselves on public platforms is not women’s responsibility?!? Obesity rates, single motherhood, supporting reality television portrayal of black women, self esteem issues, selection of men, irresponsible sexual behavior.... really?!? So black women have no role in any of this?!? It’s OK to be flawed, we are just as fault but not acknowledging it is a dire problem
As always they take nearly ZERO accountability which is exactly why thier plight will remain. No accountability no change 🤷🏾♂️
Thats how they are always blaming us I'll stick with becky
@@MrShandog72 stick with becky if that makes you happy but i promote accountability on my channel. Check it b out, Omega Courtney
On point!
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lovemeloveyou011 ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 As you can see... she dropped her link under this comment I made on this video
They all want the same guy !!! That is the story they are not telling. When they speak on Black men as a whole, they are really talking about one specific group. Take a wild guess which one that is...
Lol even in South Africa it's the same thing.
No we don't all want the same guy, every man is not you or thinks like you. Because we're all different as individuals in the first place. And we have different standards and examples of what relationships should be for us. Just like all black women aren't the same women you've experienced or encountered. But men never take the time to figure that out because of their ego, examples and past experiences. Just like a woman can resort to her sexuality, because that's all she's ever known. That's all men did to her anyway, and that's all they pay attention to anyway.
@FLgirlinTX it's not BM fault for your assumptions, in almost every situation involving a BM speaking on something he dislikes regarding BW he specifys what type of BW he's talking about
Plot twist....all of these women in this video and the majority of the women only go for the top 20% of what they call "quality men" : The men with all the power and money, 6 pack abs, morris chestnut, 12 inch penis , drug dealer, pimp, rapper, womanizer etc. But then blame the other 80% of men that have nothing to do with their problem in the first place
THUGS AND PLAYERS?
Gonna be alot more single women 🤷🏾♂️
Touche🤔
There will be anyway....women outnumber men significantly, and not all of us are willing to share.
good hopefully single mothers too with bastard children
Thats why black women need to stop dating black men. Every woman in this video has only been with "brothers" now theyre bitter.... Ladies stop wasting your glow on NIGGAS.
@@areyounotentertained2482 If other races were choosing black women they would be over there already. They're not choosing black women.
I couldn't even watch this whole vlog. It's such BS. Start with the person mirror ladies....smh
The Manimal - That will go over many of their heads. The first thought that they may have is "why dont you look in the mirror" because that's how rife feminism is unconsciously in our society and it has brainwashed most females that being contrarian and vain is good enough if you look good enough, and developing character is not important, which of course is a fantasy. This plutocratic/%1 based system NEEDS that fantasy to thrive; cant have the court systems redistributing wealth or keep up with Jones' with a bunch of grounded/high character females running around, that shit dont sell.
Until that is, the shit goes out of hand on a global scale and they make the decision that its too many participants in this whole game and we need to thin the herd because this charade cant propagate itself much longer.
_Which is where we are now_
The Stephen Jackson situation is a sign of the times, and further proof that both sexes have adjustments to make. Men are beginning to prefer peace over the other P, especially in THIS social/economical reality: now is definitely not a time to have weak, vapid connections around you.
@lovey dovey Your attitude, personality, and learn how to submit.
So discussing how black women is being treated is null and voided for you? So tell me exactly what do you see because something has to change because I am pretty sure you came from a woman and probably have sisters and aunts too.
@Tasheri exactly! Why do BM have a hard time accepting responsibility.
@lovey dovey precisely!
I am 34, I have been married almost 14 years. Successful relationships consist of couples submitting to each other. He submits to me and I to him, and we both submit to the will of God FIRST! When people get that, relationships will be successful.
Nao Dance Hall ALL OF THIS!!! 🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Let's be honest. You married a beta man and that's cool. Saying "he submits" is an oxymoron and emasculating as hell.
@@DeAndreTJ But,When you get married thats what you do.And I think people react to the word submit.It doesnt mean you cant speak or have your own views about things.You talking about being emasculated dng thats heavy!No one has that kind of power over you.
@DeAndre Submit can be the wrong word to use the message tho is spot on.
You will never get a man that makes decent money to submit to you. You gotta know what you want. Stop blaming men for all your problems.
Omg! Totally agree. "Mother's raise their daughters, and LOVE their sons."
That’s the stupidest Shit i ever heard
Bridget Barnett then they maybe failing at both. Both sons and daughters are as frustrated as ever, could single parent homes be the issue instead? I mean just a thought
It’s truth. Not stupid. My mother has three sons and I have never seen the love my mother gives to her sons her boys like unto me. It’s a systematic mental spiritual emotional war. And I would always say that in my heart as a little girl when I would watch my mother.
The Book of Psalms Music By: NICOLE - TAYAN unfortunately parents sometimes parent children different, your brothers may view things different from you. Mother could have been jealous, or has less expectations for them. All I’m saying is all this love boys are getting is apparently not making them good mates, or decrease incarceration rates, having them earn degrees at a higher rate than girls, make them loving, or faithful according to BW whenever they get a microphone in front of them. So do we blame the boys or the mom.
EH8 everything you stated is valid. It’s no ones blame love. When you become aware you can do things differently you know. That’s all 🙏🙏🙏
Why continue to beat this topic in the ground? 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
It is useless and nothing happens. It looks sad 😔 for a panel of 40+ black women complaining about black men when they had chances to get quality black man🤦🏾♀️.
You might be the most honest lady in the comments. Salute.
God bless you... you'll are our last defense. If black women see us as no good, so will the world
@Tasheri Why are males not "pick mes" when they do it? ......
@@kevinlee9929 she cant answer that. Most of the time people like that have nothing to talk about. They always create problems the more they talk.
@@olandofuller5588 Because if this is what a pick me is then Derrick Jaxn is a pick me. Yet I've seen Tasheri comment on Derrick Jaxn's page yet never refer to him as a pick me. I wonder why? 🤔🙄🤣
Syleena is speaking truth! Myself and my sisters were raised to be strong and at times it's a gift and other times a curse
Not ONCE did any of these women accept accountability for their actions. They justify everything they do and still blame black men for everything.
I hear no accountability from these sisters.
@Eileen you sound like a white racist clown
Gerard Stevenson They have all that bullshit going on and think they’re a prize 🙄 Women with all that baggage do nothing but bring down good men.
7:20 they claim they aren't bashing.. so when bm talk about bw they should understand this same.
LMAO. One question. Who raised these men you speak off? FOH!
Exactly!
Exactly. Discussion over 😂
Single mothers. The black men who arent shyt usually come from single mothers. The black men who try their best but turn their back on BW come from a duo household but just give up because it isnt worth it.
Dr Sinister omg now im lmao Facts who raised yall capital FOH
@@benthomas8084 Use punctuation... damn.
I'm not going to engage watching this BS. I know for certain three of the four chicks talking this ish has been ran through like a truck stop in Hollywood, so I know this is just Bitter Ball Fest of bad decision. Ladies, I know this will fall on deaf ears, but if you want good quality black men you have to make good quality choices out the gate. Don't roll in the filth 10, 20, 30yrs + and then point the finger. Remember, three will always point back at you!
WHY?! Are you hearing what they are saying?! It's not bashing men.
Wall hitters in the house.
@human being There all pass the wall! Lately I've been looking at Lisaraye and trying to find her attractive and I can't. She aged like an old white lady. Pass the wall!
@@jayluv34 lol if they had praised black men, they’d be “queens” 😅
Just reaffirms the least married group of women on earth
So true about them about being the least married group on the planet.
Why ? Because most are not all are looking for a good GOD fearing man who wants to be a good role model for there children and people in there community they want a rich playboy.
So you got what you was looking for! 🤐
Dan bish really so all you got is the least desired. But you black men got stats on ya selves all day. Never want to take accountability for anything, so it’s much easier to blame us and the government on why you can’t succeed in life and the so called black community that you tryna Change. News flash the black community has never been a black community because it’s mainly black men like you who screw it up because of pride and greediness. So I rather be the least desired than be the number one killer in America 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️. We black Women can change that stat by idk about you black men cause that’s all you know how to do unfortunately
@@chocolate2476 If it don't apply let it fly. Obviously you are one of those black women. Not all black women would take offense to that comment . I go by stats. Stats show you are the least married group. It shows in your attitude . I don't need to defend other black men because I know there are good black men and POS black men .
Dan bish there are no good black men. If there was you would speak out and not hide like a cowards. Call me what you want I’ve heard it all before. You ain’t the first and will not be he last. I just hope and pray that your daughters don’t have ptsd when they deal with black men!!
So according to them the only mistake they make is lowering their expectations wow. Gentlemen this is going to get a lot worse before gets better
40-50 year old women here helping to keep women single like they are. Smh
"We demand their greatness". I've always like Syleena Johnson but I LOVE this woman now. Extremely well said.
@human being I dont disagree with your statement (in a vacuum, anyway). But the black women in MY life have been great. My wife, mother, sister, grandmother, my daughter, some of my best friends, ( PHd's, Corporate execs, teachers, activists, family women/wives, a lawyer, one survived adversity that this generation cant imagine etc. etc.). And they love[d] me/"us" to death. And they have every right to demand my greatness and I am much obliged to stepping up to honor them and those that came before me as well as those who will come after. So the comment resonates with me personally based on MY experiences with black women and perspective.
Too old to be blaming everyone else but yourselves and the ideology you've been coerced to believe is accurate and supports you from a standpoint of health and sincerity. We don't need another panel of blame and finger pointing. There needs to be more discussions of accountability and effective wise decision making from teen to adult. So healthy relationships from our demographic can blossom to something wholesome. Rather than bitter fault blaming on each gender.
Jthrillz 728 talking about this on my TH-cam. Will upload later today.
@@randombooze Link me, i'll check it out and give intake.
Facts! They are promoting the victim mentality smh no one told them to date Ray Ray and cray cray.They lack poor judgment skills and poor judgment of character.
Jthrillz 728 th-cam.com/video/bsDr1_A8588/w-d-xo.html
@von gray Exactly, thank you. And not only that, the system is what started the deterioration of the black family. Look it up and they'll know what I mean.
The black community as a whole has to come together we’re so busy stepping on each other to make it. We downgrade each other don’t see this in other communities.. but I will say women dictate which man they let in we can only pursue can’t just blame a bad man for your relationship. He can only have 2 or 3 baby mammas if you let him
Preach brother Derrick!
Exactly!
Won't happen in big numbers because the culture is about individualism. One-sided conversation arent about solutions...thats by either gender
BINGO
Black community is gone man, I can only worry about myself not the collective. When you try to give our people facts on how to change their situation, they just get angry and shun you. Too much a hive-mindset.
Love this I have to tune in every time they are on.
No one put a gun to women’s head and told to “utilize their assets “ smh 🤦🏽♂️ that’s a scapegoat lol take accountability and stop playing victim
Bobby Brown I said the same thing. A man probably couldn’t get these woman to make a sammich. Lol
I don't think one thing has to do with the other but instead of looking at is as us vs them hear what is being said and ask questions.
There you go brother
True story bro lol
Yoshiyahu Yisrael Successful women you mean. You don’t know there personal life.
Man I'm loving hearing from these Queens!
These ain't queens. They weak. Just blaming men for their mistakes
i wish we could see the entire exchange at once. these vlad tv snippets suck lol
GO TO WWW.FOXSOUL.TV FOR THE WHOLE CONVO!
U can’t be lead by ANY man who has No Direction😳
A man can only lead if you allow him to
How do you know he has no direction if you refuse to follow ?
NB in DC a man can only lead if he learns it through being given an example or by trial and error, currently one option has been taken away from them by over 80% so ironically they are being taught how to be a man by the same people that are complaining about it
kennetth mitchell ......well, if he is taking himself in the right direction to right places among the right people - I will fall in line
As a black woman we need to really look inside what a black man is going through he went from lynching to Jim Crow to mass incarceration and now being shot down in the street by cops I believe all our brothers need hugs kisses and just being there for them. we need love too, however I think if we love them right they will come back to us. We just need to understand each other's struggles.
Black women went through the same thing rape from black men killed from black men and more no need to keep babysitting them they don't give af about black women
@@pelicanfanNea yes we do, we need to help our people both are going through shit
I feel like just because of the certain way you were raised you can NOT determine... All this just from your personal experience...everyone was raised differently... When your a single mother you have to do things differently..it's not fair to blame the mother solely or the black guys solely...we ALL play apart....we just need to differentiate the good from the bad...the love from the lust the real from the fake... All the other can not be justified WE need to OWN UP ...I, Me..not always U,Them
A lot of women will pick a Married Black Man over a good black man.
Married men are attractive to single women because married men show the ability to commit. They are usually financially responsible and more than likely to stay with them. It’s the same reason that all the women come flocking around as soon as the man gets a girlfriend but while he is single all the women look past him.
Michelle Preston these women are stupid then
Great convo!!!
I totally love this episode ❤
l need these 4 every week!! This is "The Real"!!!
YESSSS JUST CONFRIMED... PART 2 NEXT WEEK!
Yes!!!! I like them together. Great segment!!
claudia jordan Trying to watch the full show on the fox soul app it’s not working
ms san2016 I agree these needs to run online as pre test and go on tv once this pandemic is over. This the REAL REAL ✨👌🏾💛
Exactly 🙌🏾
Stay single until someone complements your life in such a way that it moves you closer to Jesus Christ. How strong is your relationship with Jesus? If you don’t know, look at how much time it takes you to obey what He tells you to do. There’s your answer.
Jesus Christ? 😂 A woman loving a man who loves a myth of a man who lived 2000 years ago more than he loves her is a relationship doomed.
TRUTH!
Sean Ace I felt the same way for many years. I wondered why should I believe in a “mythical” God who kept turning women away from me? But I learned that when I got tired of losing at life, there was a winning formula that I could follow: the Bible. The more I spent time with God, the more confident I felt about myself as a man. That’s when women started to notice what I brought to the table. I respect your decision if you choose not to follow God. But I hope that helps you better understand my original comment.
Jesus always gets in the way of a good relationship.
Jesus doesn't exist, brotha. That white man is Cesare Borgia. It's an idol. A damn demon. The letter J didn't exist at that time. The first slave ship was called Jesus. In 1492, Jesus was used put us in perpetual servitude (Dum Diversa sp.???).
It's the main reason TMH destroyed us and gave these heathens our land and our blessings. Yes, we are the aboriginals of this land and still in servitude. th-cam.com/video/UnAfFc-JJjg/w-d-xo.html
Where can I find the full episode
What was the name of the book Vivica recommend please.. I need two copies for my son's asap.
Corey Holcomb Talked About This On His 5150 Show.
and he and Zo(especially) were spot on
What’s the headline i can’t find it .. he keeps it all the way 100
@@nweeezy Oh You Peeped It Ha
@@bobbyv2042 Oh..It's About 3 5150s Back On TH-cam I Think April 21st Or So
@@gocpng4699 is Trina there??
The whole " Independent, I dont need a man for shit, Black men aint shit" has taught Black Women not to value, trust or even learn how to coincide with their Black Men. And it has subconsciously made Black resent, not trust nor value Black Women in return. It's over for black love.
@Mensoweak 1 I guess you didn't really learn history well.
@Mensoweak 1 “sub human”😂
This GOOD TALK!!! PLEASE give me more💕
I love this learning a lot.
it ain’t a woman’s job to raise a man
i can damn near taste the bitterness...ew
The only one bitter here is you
maybe change your diet...
I would luv to see this in it's entirety not cut up in bits and pieces! Where can I find it? 🙋😌😱
Syleena is always so real. Speaks truth! She needs her own show!
Lisa raye giving me life in that robe baby lmao
Massanti Ali all the LIFE!!!
How in tf did we as black men create the whole idea of black women using their assets to get ahead in life??? Wtf??? Black women have been getting objectified since the days of slavery and so have we so.....with that being said it's not our fault for your actions. 💯
@SouthEast Dusty Exactly well said 💯
@TurquoisePurpleSky Sky Lmfao wrong think before you speak how in tf were black males the first enslavers when they were slaves themselves you imbecile 🤦🏾♂️👌🏾😂 stick to what you know beast.
@TurquoisePurpleSky Sky Says the books, that were probably written by white men?? Just like that made up white jesus, and these pagan holidays???? And i can tell you don't read shit, lmfao. You didn't mention the Europeans?? Who had a big hand in the slave trade...what about the Roman empire??? They had black slaves as well. So please spare me your bs, because you aren't as, smart as you're lead on to believe. 🤦🏾♂️
@Ricky Yeah, that's all fine and dandy but i never said it was the old days. Black women should take accountability for their own fuck ups and stop blaming black men.
@Ricky No i was talking about blk women and men getting objectified since the days of slavery. I didn't go into detail and honestly i could care less about your opinions so tread lightly when replying to me homie because we aren't friends or family and i said what i said and i meant it.
How’d y’all make this?
Thanks for this video.
How do u feel about this as a man...
@@pauloskidane2819 I'm on a different level. Listen to the words of my song, A Fine Time "To Discover" by the group Renegade. It's on TH-cam. Columbus, Ohio USA 🇺🇸 In the music industry I went by "Kelly" but I'm the original writer along with Craig Robinson. Thanks.
When speaking on what black men think, you should have a black man up there for perspective. Women make up a lot of narratives and ion like dat
*Isn't black women grown adults who are supposed to take responsibility for their own self? When is that ever going to happen?*
@11STARFIRE They suppose to take all responsibility, which involves them, for themselves. That's the other way around, sweetie. Black American Men issues are Black American Women. Ask all the Black American Women who were married or involved with rich celebrity Black Men how their wealth increase because of Black American Men. Almost all the time a Black American Men pockets are emptied out for Black American Women. Black American Women receive protection from Black America Men leaving them jailed, killed, and wounded.
I'm so very glad you Ladies are having this Amazing Conversation 💯🌹🌹🌹🌹🙏
I love all 4 of these women.. shout out to Claudia for finally getting shine as an interviewer
Syleena didn't lie when she said our mothers and Grandmas stayed too long and took too much! They should have been popped shit off.
I still see this in 2020.
@Big Wig well put. I always said black women will be the destruction of us. If they have 1 up give that to God and ask him to restore your man or men in general. But for you to take that 1 up and bash him when you know white society wants him dead you just sided with the oppressor.
@Big Wig no black woman will ride for you. If a black woman rides with a KANG she must be crazy.
@Big Wig lol you'll see.
@Big Wig And? Where are they now??? *EXACTLY* LMAO Go to sleep!
THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE...WHEN BEING A SINGLE MOTHER GOES WRONG..
4 BLACK WOMAN..AND AS USUAL...THEY ARE NEVER ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ROLE IN FAILED RELATIONSHIPS...
LIL GIRLS #
BLAME OTHERS FOR THEIR CHAOTIC LIVES... GROWN WOMEN #CLAIM THE DRAMA THEY'VE CAUSED IN THEIR LIVES
YOU choose the dusty dude to have kids wit...YOU chose to follow your FEELINGS versus following your INSTINCTS...
YOU choose to let the way yo MOMMA RAISED YOU ..affect your current relationships..
FYI
..CANT GET A #REAL MAN..WHEN ALL YALL LOOKIN FAKE...CANT LEAVE THE HOUSE WITHOUT YA COSTUME( MAKE UP) ON
Smith Joe First of all women wear make up. Get over it. Most men don’t turn a women down because she has on make up, so that comment was weird. Second men CHOOSE the women they sleep with as well and then complain about actually having to pay for the child (child support). Save it.
Amen brother
@@jayluv34, Black women always coming to Black men rescue. However, you never ever come to black women rescue. It's ashame this is why things will never change in the black community because black men have an long standing outlook that Black women is a commodity and can be dispose of at any given time. It is all about your self center ass. So done with you.
Smith Joe exactly, couldn't have said it better bro!
This is a great conversation to have with sisters.
Omg I love this convo right here yesssssssssssss
I don't understand bc at the end of the day, you got to love yourself. Can't no man do that for you!!!!
And men have to learn that a woman can’t do that either and we really can do without them
Black women still playing the victim in 2020???
@HOSTILE MGTOW They're victims but yet strong and independent huh...lol
@@BlackRam313 Not too independent if you have to use your "assets" to get what you want. That's pathetic asf.
@HOSTILE MGTOW ok..kool
It's worked for the last 50 years. if it ain't broke don't fix it. She's got 5 illegitimate kids from 6 different dudes, but it the man's fault because you didn't say you like her nappy hair.
In 2067 black women will keep playing the victim. They will never learn. In 2020, they still don't understand why high valued black men dont want them and why other races dont want them.
Love this pod cast
Stumbled up you guys and love what you're talking about on various topics. Good and real stuff :) Hill Harper explains it best in his book "The Conversation" which is centered around the lack of trust between black men and black women. It'd be great if within our communities we could kick off "conversation" events in the spirit of saving and strengthening the black family.
Only with black men around next time...
Every race traffic their women don't just put it on Black men!
I can’t relate to any of these women. They don’t amount to type of women and femininity I’m accustomed to. Just their voice alone I couldn’t live with.
I feel your pain.
they are women so its expected you cant relate lol thats the problem with many of us. The majority dont even try to udnerstand them because of ego.
teebone 21 - i can relate to feminine women of other races. Has nothing to do with gender.
@@teebone2157
Amen Amen, Say it again! Try to understand WHY they feel a certain way instead of just judging. Kudos to you.
R H - I didn’t judge anyone. I don’t have to care about why they feel that way. They don’t care about how I feel.
Love the talk .
Love this panel!!!
I enjoy and love ❤️ this show... It’s very informative with STRONG BLACK INTELLIGENT BEAUTIFUL WOMEN
I DO GET SICK AND TIRED OF EVERY TIME WE “TALK” , DISCUSS ANYTHING BLACK WOMEN OR MEN WE ALWAYS HAVE TO GIVE A DISCLAIMER “WE ARE NOT DOWNING OUR RACE OR BLACK MEN OR WOMEN”. BROTHERS AND SISTERS IF WE CANT HAVE A CONVERSATION WITHOUT ALWAYS STATING A DISCLAIMER IN THE YEAR 2020 SOMETHING IS TREMENDOUSLY WRONG AND WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER!!! STAY BLESSED
I'm realizing more and more that these conversations are too mature for the average person watching YouTuge videos. We must not waste energy on that type. These ladies are spot on.
Men have expectations as well and they have a right to choose what the like. If you haven't been chosen you probably are not what high value men are looking for anymore.
0 accountability. Said they weren't bashing and done nothing but bashed.
That’s some good stuff!
I don’t 100% agree with what they’re saying. And I say this because it’s not to say black men aren’t enough, it’s because of the obstacles they face on a daily basis that we as women don’t always understand. If a man can’t provide, lead, or etc we automatically give up on them not knowing if they have potential. I’m in no way giving men a pass to bring less to the table, I’m saying we need to look at this full circle. By us not giving men a chance, it in turn makes women feel we have to go to a different race or become super independent never allowing men to be who they can potentially be. You never apply for a job being the best employee, time and consistent work makes you a better employee. So what’s the difference in men? Again, I’m not saying date a bum. I’m saying we all have to start some where and lowering our standards sometimes isn’t a bad thing because we may not be the woman a man is looking for as well. That’s all
Tanya Rogers thank you for explaining and seeing both points of the spectrum!!💯💯💯
Tanya Rogers I can agree...However, when you give the brothers you are referring to a chance and they never rise to the occasion then bm will say you should have chosen better...
AllthingsNataJean and I agree, which is the reason why I said don’t settle for a bum but at least try to see the potential, that’s all 😊
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 God bless you sister. If more black women thinks like you, we will build an unbreakable foundation for black families and black communities.
Agreed, however you need to be very discerning when looking for that potential. I find that a lot of black women say this and end up with a man who refuses to have any goals beyond working at McDonalds. Then we end up having to work AND take care of the kids or other household needs. I’ve seen it over and over again in so many relationships. We need to choose a man that has goals, a realistic and reasonable plan to achieve those goals, a back up plan, and values that indicate family and commitment is important to him. At the same time, we as women need the qualities that a man like that is looking for.
All my exes was very good men but just wasn't wasn't for me. Now my husband found me. Let me repeat this. My husband found me. I am so independent but I had to realize it's cool to allow a man to be a man. It's ok to let my man to take responsibility and for me to still be independent. That was so hard to learn.
LINDA JONES You have to be a good woman first to find a good man
Why was it hard to learn? And why did you have to realize it's cool to allow a man to be a man? What was going through your mind
LINDA JONES that’s great most people never get the lessons in life even with people telling them what it is
You ladies a spot on, in your opinions. Nice one.
Who else just found out about this show? I did a reaction video to this based off the comments here. I spoke about communication and expectations of your partner bc I didn’t hear them really touch that. Hope you enjoy 🤗
- AS A PERSON WHO GREW UP IN THE 80’s, I REMEMBER A TIME WHEN BIG BOOTIES WERE MOSTLY ONLY ADORED BY BLK MEN AND JUST A ‘FEW’ OTHER ETHNIC GROUPS. IN EARLY RAP LYRICS (80’s), THERE WERE ALWAYS REFERENCES TO ‘FULLER SHAPED’ BEHINDS.
- OUR SOCIETY HOWEVER, NEVER WANTS BLACKS TO BE THE IMAGE OR THE ‘PRIMARY EXAMPLE’ OF HOW YOU ASSOCIATE BEAUTY...
- SO, THEY’VE WAITED FOR FIGURES LIKE J-Lo (who was with P-Soddy at the time, 2003?) AND KIM (who was with Ray-J at the time, 2007?) TO FINALLY ACCEPT THIS IMAGE SO THAT SOCIETY IS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT THESE FEATURES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH ‘WHT’ WOMEN...
...see the connection now??
“We are the mirror of their pain.” Syleenaaaaaa...phew!
Miss Monet facts and I still don’t know why these black women procreate with them. They gonna abuse their kids afterwards. And we all know that they will choose the man over the child. It’s really pathetic in my eyes.
I am so thankful to all of you. O feel so good listening to you. Everything you said is gospel.
I agree Syleena! Great analogy 👏
I'm just here because of Corey Holcomb and he wasn't lying. 50+ and still saying Ni66@# ain't sh!t smh. That chick Syleena has a new man and still bashing men smh. Wow.
That's some simp she settle with.
People treat you a certain way because you allow it.
So, are you telling me a child is mistreated because they allowed it? Come on, where's the sense in your statement?
@@aplusdiva7006 i was talking about grown women mam not kids
@Big Wig Not true, you as a person cannot control how people treat you. What you can do is leave people alone or educate them. Children have no say in the way people treat them. The elderly sometimes are scared to speak up especially if it's their children mistreating them. The disabled which is 55 million Americans barely have a say in their treatment. Sometimes you have to think deeper.
@Big Wig ok, maybe you just want to be heard. Just as I replied to the original post it's impossible in various circumstances. Do you work? When your boss/ superior ask you to do something but you think it's wrong what do you do?
Our race does so much finger pointing instead of just respecting one another 🤦🏾♂️
Syleena is so on point and speaking that fire!!