Messerschmitt Me 109 engine start (original sound)
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- Messerschmitt Me 109 Motorstart
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Me 109 (Rote Sieben), Motorstart
Me 109 (Red seven), engine start
Flugmuseum Messerschmitt - Das fliegende Museum - The flying museum
What an incredible sound! I remember rewatching the startup sounds of these warbirds over and over again!
Ich liebe dieses Geräusch, Wenn der Öl Druck hergestellt wird...ssssssss...pfiuuuuuu
Neben den Garand Ping einer der entspannensten Geräusche dieser ära
Damit doch der Anlasser, dessen Schwungscheibe hochdreht...
Echt cool und wunderschön.
Öldruck? Das ist der Schwungkraftanlasser.
@@strenggeheim6672 ah ...ok. klingt plausibel
Now I can die happy, having heard this awesome warbird starting up.
Best regards from Bavaria! I´m living about 10 km from Flugmuseum Messerschmitt. And I see and hear all those test flights by Me 109. I hope nobody will be envious here...
FlyingRob1
You should be renting out space on BNB. Lots of interest I bet.
Neidisch bin ich schon ;)
Hast du es gut, bin total neidisch auf dich :)
Rohrbach hier :D
Mist, jetzt muss ich doch mal nach Bayern runter kommen. Grüße von der Ostsee.
In my view one of the much most impressive planes in history. A masterpiece of engineering.
whoa there is a 262 over there!
Toph629 I think this same uploader has a video of it flying as well. Unfortunately, if it's the same one I watched the other day, either the entire plane is a reproduction, or the engines are.
Regardless, still great to see one flying, even if a repo.
Brian Lee it is a reproduction 262, with engines designed to be as close to the Jumo 004’s as possible while maintaining proper reliability. Only 3 reproduction 262’s have been built. 2 A1’s and 1 B variant. This is also the official channel of Messerschmitt’s Fighter Museum
Fortunately a collapsed hangar sabatoged by the luftwaffe so its contents would be lost to advancing forces was recently excavated and was found to contain 3 untouched 262s,and 2 damaged 1 of the damaged ones was a rare 2 seater training craft,they were auctioned Recently by the land owner and all purchased by some polish millionaire, they were in a collapsed confined space, and he's planning to use the damaged ones to repair the ones in better condition, I hope the guy doesnt put them in some private collection, a bunch of other spare parts were found 13 electric starter motors and some other parts. Its amazing they survived in the soviet era but I guess the soviets didnt want to waste time lifting out the 12 ft thick collapsed ceiling, I'm thankful it fell at an angle
I dont know much more about it, if anyone's hears anything let me know!
I am German so if I did any improper grammat let me know
Memorible werd, thanks for the info, das ist die tollste Anekdote, die ich in sehr lange gelesen habe. Jetzt werde ich für mehr Information über dieser unberührte 262er und dieser Polnischer Millionär suchen. Grüße aus Neuengland, USA.
ZinternalthoughtsP er sich entschieden hat anonym zu bleiben
Since your from USA I'm going to put the rest in English,, at auction the were bought buy a private collector who is still unknown its very bothersome
I lost my opa today he died at 5 am in the morning when you take this plane on a flight next please say a few words to a good man named paul erb he used to work on these in the war im holding the dash clock from one in my hands that he accidentally took home one day when he lost his watch. he was a good man.
That engine sound has a unique tone, nice!
It's amazing just how small they were.
Wdym by "small" it is 9.2 meters long lol
@@bobuboi4643 Which is only a bit longer than a Cessna 150, most due to engine length.
@@pistonar 9.2 m is still huge compared to a human. It's almost have the size of a b-29
@@pistonar also who said Cessna 150's were small? It may be compared to a modern airliner but compared to a human it is huge
@@bobuboi4643 Best laugh all day. B-29: length 30.17 meters. Wingspan- 43.05 meters . Height- 9.02 meters so, the height of the B-29 is almost, ALMOST the same measurement of the LENGTH of the 109.
That me 262 in the background what a beauty, my grandfather would have seen those bf109 as he defended germany
Aaaahhhh sweet sound
Great stuff, love the 109 with the proper DB engine fitted...more please!
Nichts geht über diese deutsche Ingenieurskunst... was ein Traum!
Naja, schon klasse - aber ichvdenke an den Merlin-Engine u.a. der Spit ...
Der RR-Merlin war dem Benz-Motor immer ewas voraus.
ABER beide (+ FW190) sind sehr geil
…lange vorbei mit der deutschen Ingenieurskunst…🤷♂️
As the son of a british aircraft engineer have to say its a merlin for me but hat's off to the db and what a lovely restoration @@christophczada3354
@@schrimpfPorsche, Mercedes, BMW..😉👍🇲🇼
Great job those guys did on the Me-109 G4! My dream is to see it fly let alone to fly it!
+Paolo Viti Reallyß You want to fly that series of planes that kill more pilots outside of combat than any warbird ever before and after? You have better chances in a early series Starfighter.
The Pandora Guy it's a beautiful plane, although dangerous during landing and takeoff due to high torque and weak landing gear
@DJ-PLAYZ it is correct Me 109!! Originally the factory was "born" as Bayerische Flugzeugwerke so it was Bf 109 or Bf 110 but in 1938 11th July Willy Messerschmitt bought the company a and it was decided to capitalized on his name on the airplanes produced so Bf 109 became Me 109 but not automatically as on official documents it kept being called BF or Me until Me 109 F but it faded away so it is correct both BF and Me but basically Me 109G series stands correct like all the airplanes produced by Messerschmitt....
@@SteveGad it is definitely not an G6 because it does not have the bulges in the cowling to accommodate the 13 mm MG 131 so it is possible that it is the Me 109 G4 that was fitted with the 7.92 mm MG 17 but it is a rebuilt Spanish Hispano Aviación HA-1112 "Buchón" that was built under license from the Me 109 G2 generally fitted with the Rolls Royce Merlin engines because of the unavailability of the DB 605A-1 so it had the nose almost completely reconstructed to accommodate the Swedish license production DB 605A-1! Hope I didn't bore you...
@@tbmavenger71 yes as it is theoretically the Me 109-G the engine should be the DB 605A-1 but exactly what variants it is I don't know
Absolutely brilliant! Well done to all involved with red 7!!
Why did the DB601 have a flywheel/geartrain style starter? It seems the weight of the flywheel based starter would be impractically heavy for a machine like this.
What makes the whistling sound when the flywheel is engaged to the crankshaft?
the supercharger, the clutching and the start are among my top 10 favorite sounds
Lovely whine at the start absolutely wonderful aircraft
Geht mir tierisch einer bei ab.....der Motor ist einfach ein Traum. Sowohl beim Start, wenn er anspringt als auch im Flug, wenn der Turbolader so richtig schön pfeift ! Die ME-109 ist für mich persönlich eines der Besten und Schönsten Maschinen des 2. Weltkrieges gewesen.
Such a beautiful machine!
bf
+Siley Chaudhary bf
when you see the technical solutions and production technologies used in the bf-109 and fv-190, it seems that they were not made in the forties, but at the end of the twentieth century.
Many things the germans used. Sadly they were often unreliable.
What causes that noise when the engine starts? The high pitch noise before the propellor starts spinning ?
Always wondered about that. I thought Luftwaffe planes were cranked. You see film of two guys cranking (the flywheel?) before it starts. Maybe they figured a battery was dead weight, once it started. (I saw what was supposedly a P-51 battery, and it was huge).
That’s the starter inertia it’s an internal combustion engine which in this case is using an electric motor that pilots have to hold down for around 20 seconds before pulling the starter ingnition this allows for the aircraft to be started without having to be hand cranked like it would usually have to be if there was no electric motor
@@elultimo102that’s because this 109 is using an electric motor to spin the fly wheel rather then being hand cranked allowing for an easier startup.
Mein Großonkel Ernst Tesch war einer eurer Testpiloten. Auf den BF 109 Modellen und auf der ME 262. Leider kann ich nichts weiteres über ihn finden.
Tränen der Verzückung zierten meine Wangen, nachdem der wunderbare Gesang der Daimler-Zylinder verklungen war
Du wunderbare Maschine des Kampfes gegen die Zinsversklavung. All dein Mühen war umsonst
Willy Messerschmitt hieß dein Vater. Nun drehst du deine Runden ihm zu Ehren auf Flugveranstaltungen
Doch keiner weiß mehr so recht, was das alles zu bedeuten hatte
Du bist für die meisten nur ein altes Flugzeug
Für mich bist du viel mehr, meine heiß geliebte Messerschmitt
Ich verneige mein Haupt vor dir und deinem Erschaffer
Es grüßt dich Jörg aus Husum an der Nordsee
Und bei dir klingelt es schön länger, ja?
Ja, denn das Ventilspiel muss neu eingestellt werden......
Jörg
Ich habe diese Passage übersetzt und sie ist absolut schön
@@tyredcar03
Im Ernst? In welche Sprache denn? Und schon im Ausland verbreitet? Wenn ja, dann vielen Dank dafür. Aber vergiss bitte nicht, den Namen des Verfassers (Jörg Schubert) zu erwähnen, auf dass mir ewiger Ruhm und Ehre zuteilwerden.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen Jörg
How slick is the swirly nose it looks so cool 😎
Beautiful sound. The little whisteling sound before the engine runs makes it all the more dramatic.
I’m a 190 man myself, but lots of love for the 109 too.
It's nice to see someone who likes the same plane, it's my favourite too
die Me 109 für mich, zusammen mit der Spitfire und der Mustang die schönsten je gebauten Jagdflugzeuge
beautiful airplane
die Soundeinlage zu Beginn des Videos ist sehr hinterlistig und kann Lautsprecher zerstören .Ich verehre die Bf 109 aber warum dies???
lovely bf-109 ,love to own one and also fw 190 😊
Mit der Me 262 das schönste Flugzeug der Welt 😍👌👍
Ganz deiner Meinung. Ob du es glaubst oder nicht ich war in die Bf 109 "verliebt"😂😅 seit dem ich mit ich schätze mal 5 Jahren eine Dokumentation über sie gesehen habe.
@@almighurt3347 👍
How does this starter work? I hear an increasing spinning sound (much like a turbine start) a little whine and a solid start. My Lycoming IO360 doesn't start this easy.
+ Timothy Scott Inertia starter flywheel, and a starter jaw engages the crankshaft.
like the spitfire.... superb sound... never get tired of it!!
Frage : was ist dass für ein Geräusch bevor der Motor anspringt , hört sich an ,als ob eine Feder gespannt wird , u danach Turbinenartig ? ? ?
+Wolfgand Wind Trägheitsstarter, Bosch Schwungkraftanlasser. th-cam.com/video/8E6AhqQ_htE/w-d-xo.html Diese Startmethode war in vielen Flugzeugen verfügbar.
Был в 2017г в Фрайбурге рядом с Баварией,так в Мюнхен к сожалению непопал чтоб увидеть в музее ВF-109😟
The G-4 was fitted with larger diameter and width mainwheels, the two consequences were blisters on the upper side of the wing and unlike lighter earlier variants the main wheels were upright rather than parallel t the oleo leg, is this really a G-2?
+ David Red 7 started out as a post-war Buchon.
@@FiveCentsPlease Thanks for that, at least I'm paying attention!
What a beautiful machine.
Daimler Benz symphony number 601 in 12 cylinders and 30 liters.
35
Can someone please chime in and tell me what that beautiful “whining” wind up noise just prior to start?
Sure,
the me-109 had no direct electric starter motor. Instead they had something called an inertial starter which consists of a flywheel which would be wound up (either handranked or via an electric motor) and then engaged onto the engine turning it over. You can even hear the flywheel slowing down when the engine turns over.
Straight cut gear is involved here
Ist das eine Me 109 F-2 oder F-4 ? Oder garnichts von beiden?
Ist ne spanisch lizenzierte Version, umgebaut zu Bf/ME 109
I'd say the Red 7 is one of the prettiest 109 paint schemes ever made.
Alex Paumen beautiful aircraft
Why is called Messerschmitt engine? I understand the aircraft is Messerschmitt but the engine is Mercedes, no?
Un cazabombardero Messerschmitt BF 109, original de la Luftwaffe alemana y una de las unidades de combate más mortíferas de la Segunda Guerra Mundial, maravillosamente conservado a la fecha de este video, octubre de 2013, aparece aquí cumpliendo la rutina de encendido y comienzo de carreteo en el aeródromo del Museo de Vuelo, pero no hay especificación de si éste se encuentra en Estados Unidos, Inglaterra o Alemania.
Sounds far better than a Merlin to me!
Heresy
Excelente trabalho. Parabéns à equipa.
Its not Messerschmidt Me 109 its Messerschmidt Bf 109 and than the type e-4 or b1 just for example
its really both me for messerschmitt and bf for bayerische flugzeugwerke
Love the flywheel sound at 0:41
Actually a Spanish HA-1112 built in 1950 reconstructed as a G4 with a Daimler Benz 605
Is this one an electric assist start, instead of the hand crank?
+Neil Lickfold The original inertia starter could operated by hand or electrically.
Ist das der 605er?
Unfortunately this is not an original aircraft. It has been built after the war by Spain, under licence. The first thing different is the shape of the charger intake. On the original ones this is square and on this it is round.
The supercharger intake was square on the E-series, round starting with the F-series. But you are correct that this specific airframe was originally a Spanish Buchon that has been rebuilt into a Bf-109G.
It’s actually BF 109 the messerschmit company didn’t make those planes the Bayerische Fleugzeukwerke or BF did
True, however it was designed by Willy Messerschmitt himself, so it can be taken either way
109lair.hobbyvista.com/articles/bf-me/bf-me.htm here's a link that explains the confusion.
Both terms were used by pilots and crew alike. Even on the same page of accident and mission reports.
Please do some onboard videos from 109, that would be really fantastic :)
My grandma and father were shot up by one of these in London, they managed to get into the house ( she was hanging out the washing in the garden ) and dad pushed her under the stairs he then got stuck with his bum sticking out from the stair area, as the shells explouded around the house his one thought was I"m going to lose my BUM ! A FW190 did the same to mum a few years on. Silly times and a silly war that should have never ever happened !
I try to amagine. Mo mom is 84 and She was 7 when she was attecked by Russian airplanes
the Messerschmitt, a tough and reliable aircraft, was the back bone of the German Air force during WWII and featured successfully in several raids including that on the English. .
Premnath Divakaran you do know that Battle of Britain between June and September was won by the British stopping us from getting invaded. The Spitfire had a slight edge on the bf 109 and even hurricanes were known to shoot them down.
@@RhysapGrug they guy was just pointing out a small part of the history of the 109. He was not saying it was better or worse that the spits or hurricanes.
how could one replicate that start up sound in a car without trying to find an inverted v12?
What is that that opens under the engine at 0:50?
The life cycle of these aircraft was hardly more than 200 flying hours which means that in combat units this aircraft was "written off" even without any bullets on it likely after 6-12 months. The engine life cycle was even more shorter. So if Germans produced Jan-Dec some 10 000 and lost in combat or non-combat 5 000 during that year the other 5 000 was written off anyway. About 2 500 during same year and other 2 500 in first part of next year. That's the reason why great majority aircraft were never lost in combat but just written-off.
+bandwagon22 The Luftwaffe had a very good recovery and recycling process for downed aircraft with a special team sent to each crash. Usable aircraft were returned to service . Downed allied aircraft were sorted and cataloged for raw materials. Many German aircraft were repaired or upgraded and spent several years in service. For example, Bf-109 #3579 was crashed at least twice and sent to a repair depot and then returned to combat before eventually being lost in Russia. www.airic.ca/assets/images/bf200562524.jpg And you can see that the Fw-190 in the foreground in this picture has been in service and then returned to a production line for repairs or upgrade. i.pinimg.com/originals/ea/1c/4e/ea1c4e2ef8a0ea717888aca4434f3f60.jpg
I love the sound of that plane.
* happy wheezing noises * its beautiful 🥺🥺🥺
Which version is it, i. Would guess it's a G, maybe a G4 or a G6?
Red Seven has an electric inertial starter. Makes a nice flying upgrade but, insofar as I know, the Gustav as it was used in Luftwaffe service had a hand-cranked inertial starter which would be more historically accurate.
+Rogers Hunter The original Bosch starters could be operated electrically or by hand to spin up the inertia wheel. Back in wartime, it's quicker for the ground crew to spin up the starter in a hurry than waiting to hook up a start cart for power to the starter. Hand start was available as a back-up method on a number of aircraft. Red Seven is probably using a better modern battery to power the Bosch starter.
This engines has a starter gas turbine?!?! Or a gyro starter? I have seen a crew crank starting such a DB 601 engine!??
Thats because it isnt completly original. Back in ww2 the ,,Anlasser" would get started by hand. If that is what you mean. The Me-109 here actualy still has that hole, where you could start it. But it isnt needed anymore and an elektrostarter is much better.
I would love to see it get started by crank its just a show!
+Schlipperschlopper Inertia starter where a flywheel is spun up and engaged to a starter dog to the crank. Found on many aircraft for back-up starting also, German, Japanese and Allied. On Luftwaffe planes the starter flywheel can be operated by hand or electrically.
+ᚹᛟᚾ ᛗᚨᚷᛞᛖᛒᚢᚱᚷ The Bosch starters could be operated manually by hand or with an electric power source such as an external start cart or with an internal battery. The Bf-109 has a power port underneath between the wheels while the Fw-190 has a power port on the side behind the cockpit. Most likely the starter is original but they are just operating it electrically.
+Schlipperschlopper And here is a video of an original Schwungkraftanlasser. You can see it operating electrically and also see the attachment for the hand crank option. You can also see the starter dog to engage the crankshaft. th-cam.com/video/8E6AhqQ_htE/w-d-xo.html
This Plane should have all its markings just because that's what it was not for any other reason what a graceful Beauty
Wonder if there's two people inside and the pilot is an illegal street car racer. How well you think the passenger gona last.
When will we be able to fly and hear this beauty in the Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020. This is more needed and wished for than you may think!
We won't because it was a Luftwaffe aircraft, which of course, is too political. Even the Ju52 if you notice does not have a Luftwaffe skin, only civilian air liner skins. The iron cross is just too controversial. I would love to be proven wrong though, nothing I would buy faster than a 109 in that game
Schöne Muziek ❤️
I take a 109 over a spit or p51 anyday
+Aviation Technology War Channel I take both. Bf-109 for the glamour of having one and the P51 for it's sexy curves and high octane engine :D.
I'm with you, brother. The 109 is one of the most iconic warbirds of the Second World War.
Agree
dora 9
The Dora was one of the best ww2 fighters in my opinion.
But i personaly like the 109k4 most but that just my take on it.
Man hört am Anfang die stuka ^^ 🐶 unglaublich schön ^^
Did they just removed swastika . Cmon why ??
+ R Gaming The swastka was banned by law by the Allies at the end of WW2. Modern laws kept the ban in most of Europe.
is this an original Messerschmitt account or something
Isn’t it more properly called a _Bf_ 109? Rather than Me 109?
+Meriwether Both terms were used throughout the war.
all military vehicles have the original symbol , put the svastica please...
That thing was sleek. Willie was way ahead of his time when he designed it.
what is the name of the crank-actuated engine starting system?
+ Paulo Roberto It is called inertia starting and it can be found on many aircraft both Allied and German. The German inertia starters can be operated either by hand or with an electric power source.
@@FiveCentsPlease thanks
Was the Daimler-Benz DB 605 really 30L?It seems a lot.Do you think a copy of that kind of engine could fit in a modern super car, like an AMG-Mercedes-Benz for instance?I mean surely an upgraded version of that engine.I love the sound ^^
+Melvorgazh More like 36L and 1600 lbs. Too big for a car.
Thanks.
I checked for sizes again, and even the Tiger Tanks 1 and 2 had a smaller engine.
Maybe ok for a big truck then.
But about car engines I actually prefer the sound of V8 over a V12.
Thanks for yout infos, 5CentsPlease
Dunno but I've seen a car with a Rolls Royce Merlin in it.
Really?! :o
In real life or on video?
That I would LOVE to see!
Must be huge.
Did it seem stable alright?
What sound is that 0:00
I’ve just realised for the people who say about the swastka that is the same or similar version of the 109 as Erich Hartman which didn’t have a swastika
which 109 is this? gustav? friedrich? emil?
Daniyar Sadykov I think she's a Gustav
yes a gustav 4
Direct fuel injection meant negative g maneuver caused no power loss. Also very easy power unit change out.
+Bill Bright
Red 7 didn't have an accident from negative G. It was inverted flight and the fuel pickups were no longer submerged in fuel, and they sucked air into the fuel injection pump. The pilot wasn't able to restart using the prime pump.
I am nostalgic , I remember when I defended the Bucharest and Ploiesti from the americans with this plane. It was a new plane for me, I flew before romanian IAR 80. Was 1943...what a year...
Nothing like the real deal and sound so beautiful
My opa worked on the m.e 109 during the war he machined parts for them. he was conscripted and lucky for him he had gone to school to be a machinest and graduated so he never became infantry probably why he's still around he even still has a clock from one I asked how he got it he said one day he forgot his watch so he grabbed one from the parts bin forgot it in his pocket took it home and still has it and uses it.
Some people are never happy. It's an original Bf 109 enjoy the video for what it is. Why worry about some paint marking. Do you also criticise the Me 262 reproductiion aircraft because they don't have the original engines fitted? Or maybe you would rather they weren't flying at all because it ''offends'' you?
+EE SS Red 7 was originally a Spanish Buchon and rebuilt into Bf-109 standard. An original Me-262 is expected to begin test flights sometime soon.
Is this an Me 109 E? it has the tear drop wings and thats not an early Me 109 feature.
Who got this in a search for "Taz spinning sound"? I admit that I would've expected a clip of the first Messerschmitt jet fighter in such a search.
The sound the airplane makes when it’s starting up is crazy
Is that an inertia starter? Smooth engine.
+Bee Cee The original inertia start can be operated by hand or with electric power, so yes.
a beautiful sound and in beautiful condition.
Y the spiral on the spinner ??
That DB engine definitely has it's own sound, just like the Merlin.
Why it whistle at 0:41???
Насколько я знаю, у оригинального Мессера не было электрического стартера. Механик забирался на правую консоль и раскручивал специальной рукояткой маховик. А от маховика через муфту уже и запускался мотор.
Ist so nicht richtig. Durch das manuelle hochdrehen des Schwungkraftanlassers hat man die Batterie damals geschont. Die 109 konnte auch elektrisch gestartet werden.
Vielen Dank fuer diese Ihre Antwort.@@strenggeheim6672
what a beauty of sound to look,fullfilment of dreams to fly in one of ww2 plane
Beautiful sounds, thanks
What's that small black, red and yellow flash on the tail? I don't recognize it.
Modern Luftwaffe markings!
I was just getting a rise out of the Germans. Since its where the swastika marking should be.
How irritating that historical accuracy has to be thrown aside because someone may get offended.
It's the correct national emblem of the country where this beauty is registered. Germany. Glad I could help.
I'm really crazy about Bf-109s!!!!!!!!
I watched an interesting video a while back. How come the German fighters were slower and did not perform as well as the allied fighters. Even though the ME 109 had a larger engine, it produced less power, seem the german had only around 80 octane fuel while the US produced up to 150 octane fuel. a much better fuel
WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!
Is that a Maybach or a Mercedes-Benz?
+Benedict Wiltom Daimler Benz engine.