All the Gears, no idea?

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  • After the second gearbox failure on our MK5 Race car it was back to the drawing board...
    Will the 02Q manual hold up this time or is it time to swap to DSG?
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  • @lynnejones3571
    @lynnejones3571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Even for somebody with minimal knowledge on gearboxes I enjoyed every second of trying to work it out. So good :)

  • @simonhutton1
    @simonhutton1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You guys name popping up everywhere. Trying to get everyone to buy your bits etc. I’d bring my VW to you but its crap haha. Great work guys, best in UK. 👍🏼🔥👌🏼

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You wouldn't be the first to bring as a crap car, haha. We have some that belong in the scrapyard!

  • @danielmarshall4587
    @danielmarshall4587 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't worry about how many vids you're putting out, yes I could watch all the vids you put out ....the more the merrier. However given the current situation I fully appreciate your videos, as all ways all the best stay safe and take care.

  • @knutroald5332
    @knutroald5332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really cool and interesting to see theese sort of videos👌🏼😬 keep’em coming!

  • @piotreklotro3077
    @piotreklotro3077 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GCU from HTG tuning it's good stuff and make nice time shift.

  • @Honky_Konky_Phooey
    @Honky_Konky_Phooey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting video indeed, not massive but my dq250 is handling 622 nm of torque quite happily and 500+ BHP , keep up the good work lads 👍

    • @ryanp6138
      @ryanp6138 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good to know!

    • @ThatRoddy
      @ThatRoddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And you ain't posted a single video.... weak sauce bro.

  • @rsdene
    @rsdene 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video, monster performance gearset is top cant seeing it breaking 4th gear

  • @yazctr
    @yazctr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very interested in the stand alone DSG ecu, thats going to be epic!

    • @kylebudd5479
      @kylebudd5479 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yazctr this is a great shout, I had to opt for a manual and fwd because I could use a stand-alone Ecu to control the day and quattro

  • @charlieskids4348
    @charlieskids4348 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great informative video. You recently did a gearbox tune on the VW Amarok it would be interesting for you to compare the HTG GCU with the Mechatronic unit on this vehicle. Looking forward to the installation because there isn't much info on their website + the links to the gearboxes don't work.

  • @aqib2000
    @aqib2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The technical term is ‘park pawl’ @8:12, moderns ZF gearboxes have have a mechanical limitation which physically prevents them from engaging above 7kph which overcomes your mentioned issue.

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If this had that we would not remove it :)

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stock clutches now but Arosa will need upgraded. 0.5s would be nice!

    • @aqib2000
      @aqib2000 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darkside Developments it’s recent safety feature we’ve had added to facilitate use cases for autonomous driving ;)

  • @Boatlife1964
    @Boatlife1964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like there’s no reason not to convert to dsg Ryan? Having seen one of the gearbox failures and the time you lose it makes sense to go that way. The casings and hardware does look better engineered in the dsg boxes...and no chance of selecting the wrong gear on changes....be interesting to see if you do go this way.
    Great explanation as always...your knowledge and ability to explain it to idiots like me are brilliant. Stay safe.

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I (Scott) just prefer the engagement you get with a manual gearbox, from a driving perspective. I think DSG will be more like a computer game! Plus DSG is harder on the brakes, but we are hoping to make some changes in the software to get more engine braking with the DSG

  • @johng3015
    @johng3015 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are doing a great job so keep it up 👍 and when this covid mess is over will be coming to you to get my car done. Regarding DSG it maybe worth your while to give TSV Engineering a call to see what they can do or recommend for you, and yes everyone on social media says that this or that is the best and I’m not saying that, a phone call is cheap to find out

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      From what other customers said TVS did not fix their tuning any differently to other tuners.

  • @tvanc542
    @tvanc542 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad to see you are playing more with the DSG. Curious how much time you think it will improve the Arosa's 1/4 mile? Half second?
    Look forward to your R&D filtering down to a stronger DSG for me.
    Are you running the stock clutches or upgraded?

  • @Petetay
    @Petetay 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reet then is probably the best opener to a video.

    • @amd87ts
      @amd87ts 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      petetaylor1990 we need stickers 😂

    • @Petetay
      @Petetay 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amd87ts most definitely

  • @mrAudisubaru
    @mrAudisubaru 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DSG swap☺

  • @realisticcritic
    @realisticcritic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please specifiy on the single mass flywheel that you cant run a single mass flywheel with the steel synchro without nuking them.

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We dont recommend for CR engines which usually have steel synchro, its not as common as people think though, the steey synchro's are just crap anyway!

  • @ThatRoddy
    @ThatRoddy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question... with the tiptronic system... couldnt you just map the shift up and shift down. That way you dont have to turn the shifter assembly upside down.

    • @ryanp6138
      @ryanp6138 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Highly unlikely to work well

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not usually tons lower, 50c maybe depending

  • @reparalotumismo7359
    @reparalotumismo7359 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which 02M is stronger? The one that have tapered bearings in the input shaft (FJW for example), or the one that have ball bearing and roller bearing in the input shaft (GUC FSM HDS...)? Thanks

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Both have their issues, the Roller bearing have tronger casing but wear out easier

  • @nath_tayl0rr
    @nath_tayl0rr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What 6 speed combination would suit a cayd 1.6 cr for motorway driving currently got a 5speed stock engine but revving around 2700rpm - 3000rpm

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any 02Q from the PD140s would probably do the job.
      One from a CR of PD170 will be a bit long for the 1.6 power output

  • @shaunlewis4016
    @shaunlewis4016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ryan, stop bring tight and treat Paul to a new vice and bigger hammer 😆

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is another Record Vice in the corner but its fresh painted so I think he didn't want to scratch it!

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He also has many hammers!

  • @Garaza-po9mq
    @Garaza-po9mq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much is difference in kg between manual and dsg. How will car handle in the corner because it would be much heavier on the front axle

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We need to weigh everything when its all together but about 30kg I think. It wont affect handing too much, its not a light car anyway!

    • @Garaza-po9mq
      @Garaza-po9mq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarksideDevelopments
      Do you know where can i purchase dsg standalone controller i what to upgrade my coupra 4 disel to a dsg becous i think it's better handle 420nm+ then the regular dual mass flywheel. Im waiting Misha to upload his probem that hi head whit his gearbox on his golf. Im very much appreciate you sharing knowledge about everything you do on this TH-cam channel. Big respect 💪💪💪💪
      Dilemma that i have by controler for dsg or upgrade 1.9 arl EDC15 to a EDC16 with sensor on crankshaft?🤔🤔🤔

  • @bradmarshall8363
    @bradmarshall8363 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been waiting for something like this I’m wanting a taller gear ration on my cr170 Leon and wanting to know does the 02m gear box fit from the pd engine which I believe have taller ratios than the 02q gearbox

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We have a load of Long ratio gearsets and Mk5 casings!

    • @bradmarshall8363
      @bradmarshall8363 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darkside Developments good to know once ronas done with definitely have to have a talk about that thankyou

  • @nospeedlimits7777
    @nospeedlimits7777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reyt then, racing car wants cockpit sized to driver. Your track cars same. Deep dish steering e spacer too. With dsg transmission you need to use oem vw steering until you build costly special padded steering with its own electronic software. Why didn't you think to dog box with beefier gears? No synchros, only matching bigger e stronger gears. Faster clutchless shifting done! Seconds gained a lap. Or maybe your engineer yet is building dsg special padded steering, new video surprise!!

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We will put paddles on the deep dish wheel, like this - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/caddy-mk3-2-0-tdi-common-rail-cfhd-4-motion/
      Dog Box was another option, but it does not eliminate the 4th gear weakness risk and more than this gear setup

    • @nospeedlimits7777
      @nospeedlimits7777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarksideDevelopments what a van!

  • @michaelwilkinson4796
    @michaelwilkinson4796 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This question is a bit off topic. But can a cr170 turbo be installed to a cr140 engine and mapped to the same figures as a stock cr170? Or are other supporting mods required? Thanks

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes we do it all the time - www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/2-0-16v-common-rail-tdi-round-port-200hp-turbo-upgrade.html

    • @michaelwilkinson4796
      @michaelwilkinson4796 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darkside Developments Thanks for getting back to me. Should those power figures not be higher as most cr170’s can achieve 220-230hp? Thanks again

  • @kenrossaukrsa
    @kenrossaukrsa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi please assist me, I am looking at a 2015 Jetta 2.0TDi DSG with 65000 miles for £5.5k. Would a Audi A5 , A3 be a better buy with higher mileage? I want to have my next car tuned by you guys after all this CV19

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buy the car you love and we can do the rest! A5 3.0 is probably the best smiles per buck, even around 100k miles they are still reliable to tune

    • @kenrossaukrsa
      @kenrossaukrsa 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Darkside Developments thanks will check out your website , also want to do lowered coilovers

  • @H6NTY435D
    @H6NTY435D 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick question about the 200bhp 2.0tdi oval port turbo upgrade, what will it realistically push?
    Currently got Egr delete, dpf delete pipe, your intercooler running 200bhp and 343lbs on standard turbo, would it be any benifit to upgrade to this?
    Dont wanna keep emailing and asking stupid questions!

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can push them a bit harder, 215hp maybe

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You dont have 200hp on our dyno now though

    • @H6NTY435D
      @H6NTY435D 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarksideDevelopments what'd you mean now? And thanks :)

    • @H6NTY435D
      @H6NTY435D 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The work and tuning was all done by you guys, just confused lol

  • @andyhopkinson2708
    @andyhopkinson2708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the Scirocco dsg boxes are they different? I.e ratios

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are 100s of different DSG Boxes with different ratios. The issue is, as ETKA does not show any internal parts, such as the gears, you can't work out which will have different ratios

    • @andyhopkinson2708
      @andyhopkinson2708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarksideDevelopments Paul inboxed you some stuff over to you. Might already know about it?

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andyhopkinson2708 Sorry you have lost me? Paul?

    • @andyhopkinson2708
      @andyhopkinson2708 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarksideDevelopments ignore mate meant Ryan.

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andyhopkinson2708 Haha, just checked Facebook and it makes more sense. Paul is the mechanic, Ryan is the guy who does all the talking. Plenty of homework there for me!
      Cheers

  • @mikeyg4297
    @mikeyg4297 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My car has a dq200 what box would you fit?

    • @DarksideDevelopments
      @DarksideDevelopments  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Anything other than a DQ200! Dry clutch that holds about 200nm!

    • @mikeyg4297
      @mikeyg4297 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DarksideDevelopments i know i want to remap engine but know gearbox will go bang