Great! I always wanted this on the guitar… I could sing it so I wished to be able to play it like that. Problem is if i don’t play for a while I loose that possibility.
Hey, this actually works! At first I thought there's no way this is gonna happen - this is essentially perfect pitch. But I tried it and it's actually not that hard. I just never considered even trying such a thing. Like he said, it's a different part of the brain than understanding and thinking about theory and how the tones relate to the changes. It's just like a direct connection from the sound in your head to the fingers, bypassing the thinking part of the brain entirely. Of course this is assuming you are hearing specific pitches in your head to begin with - that is a must.
This is the training. Hear something specific in your head, then see if you can guess what notes they are on your horn. Start off with one note, then hopefully over time, with practice, more notes and lines. I'm at the one or 2 note stage. @@sarpkahvecioglu8701
@@sarpkahvecioglu8701 This is the training. Trying to hear specific notes in your head and then seeing if you can guess where they are on your horn. Learning to relate the sounds in your head directly to your instrument, bypassing theory. That's how I am working on it.
I'm a guitarist and I haven't worked on this much, but once in a while I'll play a section of a tune I know only in my head and it comes put perfectly (never enough, of course). But you're right - the weird thing is that you don't feel that you're conscientiously thinking of it. How cool.
Greg fishman you are a genius. Super creative I've always noticed that about you. Super musician super saxophonist. I agree on that Note situation with hearing a object like a bell and it had an actual note because I noticed that too everything kind of has a note to a certain degree and I would notice that but I never thought about memorizing the note and then I can hear a song and know that note was f sharp so that's kind of cool that you can do that. I'm pretty close but not as good as you but I have noticed that everything does have some type of note tonal texture. Thanks for that great information. Take care my brother. ❤
lol...@08:07, GREG (carefree): "...It's just great! (rapid riff) There ya go! Alright...Have fun with that. I'll see you soon. " (walks off w/ viewers thinking: 'WTH!)
Dear Greg, Thank you very much for your valuable advice. I play jazz on my alto Eb saxophone, and also classical on my soprano. Won't playing soprano distort my work? Should I only play Eb or Sb instruments? Thank you very much for your wonderful work. Phil
Good point ,most of the saxophone players never thought about this cause they cant sing while playing .But this is like a common thing for pianist,guitarist,etc. i've tried to sing first and then play on my saxophone these days .But its more difficult to hear lines in tune for me . that made me so frustrated..should i try to sing each chord note in a tune and then goes to licks or phrases i practiced?
Just curious. Suppose I learn this. How does it apply to Being able to Improvising a solo to a standard tune in a particular key? Is there a follow up video?
Another approach to this: sing, as bad (but tonally correct)or good as needed, one well known to you standard (Autumn Leaves?... All of Me?) A whole song! You'll then have the basic skill to do use great approach to learning
Three years later but still relevant. Do you mean learning to recognise the individual notes of the tune and then using that tune /notes as a reference point to figure out random notes when played? There is reference to perfect pitch in some of the comments but I don't think Greg is talking about perfect pitch. He used the bell as a reference so its a matter of relative pitch?. Although I have often wondered how we instantly recognise friends and family when they phone and on the other hand we have so much difficulty recognising 12 musical pitches.
RE: Singing / Playing -- The singing part is easy. Playing what I can sing on the horn (trumpet)...that's where I struggle. Scatting over changes I don't find hard. I don't even need to know the changes, like scatting over something on the radio. PLAYING all that...yeah...not so much. And I have a TERRIBLE time memorizing now at age 65. I'm a visual learner to start with, not an auditory one, so I already have a major hurdle in the way of trying to commit any given idea of any length to memory, let alone running an idea through all 12 keys.
I used to think that but if you stick with it eventually it starts to happen. I started by working. out nursery rhymes by ear, so if you find you can do that the rest is just a matter of concentrated work. I do agree it seems easier for some than others though.
Great! I always wanted this on the guitar… I could sing it so I wished to be able to play it like that. Problem is if i don’t play for a while I loose that possibility.
Fishman, you are FABULOUS !
Hey, this actually works! At first I thought there's no way this is gonna happen - this is essentially perfect pitch. But I tried it and it's actually not that hard. I just never considered even trying such a thing. Like he said, it's a different part of the brain than understanding and thinking about theory and how the tones relate to the changes. It's just like a direct connection from the sound in your head to the fingers, bypassing the thinking part of the brain entirely. Of course this is assuming you are hearing specific pitches in your head to begin with - that is a must.
How did you work on that like what was your training
This is the training. Hear something specific in your head, then see if you can guess what notes they are on your horn. Start off with one note, then hopefully over time, with practice, more notes and lines. I'm at the one or 2 note stage. @@sarpkahvecioglu8701
@@sarpkahvecioglu8701 This is the training. Trying to hear specific notes in your head and then seeing if you can guess where they are on your horn. Learning to relate the sounds in your head directly to your instrument, bypassing theory. That's how I am working on it.
I'm a guitarist and I haven't worked on this much, but once in a while I'll play a section of a tune I know only in my head and it comes put perfectly (never enough, of course). But you're right - the weird thing is that you don't feel that you're conscientiously thinking of it. How cool.
@@hafeezk1 yeah, but how does it work when you play on alto and tenor? Does your brain have to know all the notes for each instrument?
What a great video, thanks Greg
It's a great ongoing practice!!! Thanks Greg! I love your videos and private lessons!
The secret revealed! Great explanation and demo.
Beautiful explanations .. great approach ..g
Thanks, Greg!
Greg fishman you are a genius. Super creative I've always noticed that about you. Super musician super saxophonist. I agree on that Note situation with hearing a object like a bell and it had an actual note because I noticed that too everything kind of has a note to a certain degree and I would notice that but I never thought about memorizing the note and then I can hear a song and know that note was f sharp so that's kind of cool that you can do that. I'm pretty close but not as good as you but I have noticed that everything does have some type of note tonal texture. Thanks for that great information. Take care my brother. ❤
Definitely helpful. Thanks.
lol...@08:07, GREG (carefree): "...It's just great! (rapid riff) There ya go! Alright...Have fun with that. I'll see you soon. " (walks off w/ viewers thinking: 'WTH!)
Great!
Love this
Good stuff!
The ear can be trained but I’m not sure if perfect pitch came be obtained.
Greg you concept is do brilliant. You make so simple and stupid. Thank you.
is this a compliment?
The typo error is evident. It’s more than a compliment
Love it!
I have your fourth book.
Thank you very much
Dear Greg,
Thank you very much for your valuable advice.
I play jazz on my alto Eb saxophone, and also classical on my soprano.
Won't playing soprano distort my work?
Should I only play Eb or Sb instruments?
Thank you very much for your wonderful work.
Phil
Good point ,most of the saxophone players never thought about this cause they cant sing while playing .But this is like a common thing for pianist,guitarist,etc. i've tried to sing first and then play on my saxophone these days .But its more difficult to hear lines in tune for me . that made me so frustrated..should i try to sing each chord note in a tune and then goes to licks or phrases i practiced?
Just curious. Suppose I learn this. How does it apply to
Being able to Improvising a solo to a standard tune in
a particular key? Is there a follow up video?
Another approach to this: sing, as bad (but tonally correct)or good as needed, one well known to you standard (Autumn Leaves?... All of Me?) A whole song! You'll then have the basic skill to do use great approach to learning
Three years later but still relevant. Do you mean learning to recognise the individual notes of the tune and then using that tune /notes as a reference point to figure out random notes when played?
There is reference to perfect pitch in some of the comments but I don't think Greg is talking about perfect pitch. He used the bell as a reference so its a matter of relative pitch?.
Although I have often wondered how we instantly recognise friends and family when they phone and on the other hand we have so much difficulty recognising 12 musical pitches.
This is tough
I play soprano and alto
Different notes , same fingering
Which horn should I focus on ?
RE: Singing / Playing -- The singing part is easy. Playing what I can sing on the horn (trumpet)...that's where I struggle. Scatting over changes I don't find hard. I don't even need to know the changes, like scatting over something on the radio. PLAYING all that...yeah...not so much. And I have a TERRIBLE time memorizing now at age 65. I'm a visual learner to start with, not an auditory one, so I already have a major hurdle in the way of trying to commit any given idea of any length to memory, let alone running an idea through all 12 keys.
What do you mean only work with the C's and F#'s??
Yup, that’s the key to everything. Otherwise you are just moving fingers…
i can just touch my horn and listen to a song and know what key it's in usually 95% of the time.
Gee, I wish it was so simple. I'm afraid some have 'it' and can work towards achieving that level of ear, others just can't.
I used to think that but if you stick with it eventually it starts to happen. I started by working. out nursery rhymes by ear, so if you find you can do that the rest is just a matter of concentrated work. I do agree it seems easier for some than others though.
This guy is so hip..