So You Want To Play Incas
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2024
- Welcome to another episode of this twitch/youtube series. Today we take a look at Incas, one of the 3 meso american civs in the game. In my opinion, Incas are a bit of like a jack of all traits civ, with a couple unique options throughout the game. No crazy eco bonus, but just enough to get them through the early game and into their flexible mid-lat game. They also don't have any crazy late game power unit, but rather a bunch of good combinations of units, that are also quite cheap. Hope you guys enjoy!
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Lemme know what civ you guys want for next week!
Edit: Teutons for next week confirmed
Kmer!!
Italians always confuse me on land maps.
tewtons
Tuetons! Are you eventually going to do every civ?
Khmer
Celts would be interesting. They seem to be a very solid civ for many situations but I never really manage to play them properly.
Celts can be quite tough cause of their transitions, but they are totally awesome :D
@@lamegamer4607 sneaky onager cuts can take players off guard and with their army out of position it can be deadly in team games.
Siege monk pike push castle age whilst booming.
Siege onager, rams and halbs imperial age.
@@hezo9 WR never an option? I used to play back in the day, I don't see the raiders get much love these days.
I would really like to see the Lithuanians next week! The last update made them stronger I think and they now have the Leitis as a viable option in castle/imperial age. It would be interesting to hear your opinion about that unit compared to paladins.
teutons, since the buffs and no one plays them much overall would be interesting to see how much they changed and i half want to main them as my civ cuz they are aint used
29 Teutonic Knights, 21 Hand Canoneers, 10 monks - square formation, stand ground(Healing Fortress) htky 1 + 20 teutonic knights htky 2 + 20-30 palladins htky 3 + 9 bombard cannons htky 4, adding in siege onagers, and other units as needed- I like filling a castle with 4 keeps strategically against it filled to the brim with hand canoneers(60)
Here's a guide to it I'm making
steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2086604354
No siege engineer and elite cannon galleon limits the range of your response to treb/bombard. You have nothing fast to rush out and take down enemy siege
Silverboi just did a video on them.
@@Peizxcv They get siege engineers though?
3lancer Officialmaybe I stand corrected. I was thinking no bracer that limits range. Thank you. Still make ships, archers, skirmisher, towers weaker
Intro 0:00
Civ Perks and Tech tree 0:35
Summary 5:28
Map Choices 5:58
Twitch Q&A 7:10
Game Starts 12:45
Game ends 38:00
Vikings - big civ in Redbull tournament recently
Yes
I hear they're quite good on Black Forest too...
@@mrgaudy1954 only if you're a fat slob
This was one of the smoothest, satisfying 1v1's I ever watched and I don't normally watch 1v1 games. Nili played really well, but sort of underestimated your micro with xbows, his mangonel did little damage. Maybe if he went for full skirmishers...
for the love of god buff their team bonus to 200% and make it somewhat noticable and not complete garbage or just make their farms build instantly instead of 200% it wouldnt be a big deal and it would be still worse than many team bonuses
Incas is, probably, one of the 5 best defenses civs in the game. My favorite civ.
Thank you for this video, gonna think more about what should I do when use them.
@El Bottoo counters for everything.. cheaper stone buildings
@El Bottoo their huskarl like eagle warriors can do a good job against mass archers or siege
Nili looked so strong here, a couple missed splits of hera and this game could be very close.
Love your casting Hera, you’re a humble, genuine guy!
He's a great teacher. Pro player. Cool and calm. Best one to learn from in videos
So, you wanna play Jedi Outcast 2?
Everybody: Uh, yeah. Duh.
Lithuanians would be great. I am hype for them after i saw this crazy drush from you!
I like Incas because their voices are so frikking soothing.
How to play Incas? Monk rush with redemption, then convert enemy stable. Mass xolotol warriors and u win!
but how do you get redemption in a multiplayer game?
@@josephryan5797 Yes.
@@3xperiment8 do they have redemption now? I was unsure.
Must be thinking of aztecs from single player?
Joseph Ryan RedBull wololo Mr Yo vs Laaaan, game 4, enjoy!
I'm playing around the 700 and 800 range and have found my favorite civ to be the Incas. The eco bonuses are nice, but I'm always able to mass up enough Kamayuks then later elite Kamayuks with the blacksmith upgrades and run around the map doing almost whatever.
I typically pair them with scorpions or ranged units like slingers or elite skirms and later trebs. They aren't mobile, but a couple decent sized armies running around can catch up to cavalry.
Is this just a lower elo thing, or are they really that good? I can see some units or diversion tactics exploiting their need to 'ball up'...but I haven't come across that (yet). I'm about a 50/50 player thanks mostly to my last 10ish games with Incas.
I love this video series and I really don't mind which civ comes up. Coming from a new player, thank you for your AOE educational content. It is helping my so much with getting up to speed.
Side note, I also really appreciate your positivity and general demeanour on stream and on TH-cam. It is a breathe of fresh air.
I like Incas on nomad. Nomad games often turn into messy tower fights when the players end up right next to each other. Also the house bonus makes it much easier to get the second and third fishing boat out without dock idle time. That can lead to 1-2 minute faster feudal.
Thanks for the vid Hera, you're the man! Props to Nili on this game too, he's stepping up his game
Why do you build two houses immediately as Incas, when just one would give 10 pop space? The second one could be placed for protection by a lumber camp or something if you delay putting it up.
Hera teaching us how to tactical pause. Very authentic 11
Great video! I love civilizations with eagle warriors. Personally I would have liked to have added to medieval Native American civilizations such as the "Chimor" (naval whit heavy infantry) and "Chachapoyas (Amazon civilization of archers and blowgun warriors)
. Anyway, I like the balance of the civilizations currently existing in the AoE2 DE.
Great content! The "So You Want To Play" series is very interesting!
Thanks a lot. It looks like a very interesting civ to play, also according to your infantry best civ tier list :)
Liked and subscribed because nili told me to. Also this is a cool series, my vote for next civ is Malians.
Ah man, I thought you were done with this serie after your 1 mount of youtube. Glad to see a new video!
gOtHs. Make it happen people.
I like this series and the tier list!
That may be a it early for them, but I would like to see how to play the Cumans!
Cumans would be so interesting for this serie imo
I know you asked for civ suggestions, but if you ever get to do other stuff i'd love to know which civs/strats you use to end ARENA/black forest match ups fast. It seems that it's become a common thing to add boom maps to the map rotation, which is ok, but after getting queued a million times into arena i end up geting bored. In Arena I usually end up going khmer elephant rush or FAST castle + castle drop with certain civs, and in Black forest it's usually either just boom or if i get lucky drop a sneaky vill to build behind them, heck, after a dumb mistake of walling the enemy pocket i ended up improvising an archer flush on my enemy flank so i wouldn't stay behind and got the GG in early castle, that was fun, but lucky. Any other strats that can open a new array of fun are welcome.
Cumans! Kipchuks seem really interesting
Plus their feudal TC. I'm curious what the build is for that and how he handles the later castle age time.
I love this series, you are doing a great job. I would like to see next the Vikings. Wish you the best sorry if my writing isn't correct im from argentina.
Berbers would be fun to watch. I wanna know if genitours r ever viable.
Very good trash fight unit, not so great castle age
Honestly kinda like turmas in aom
Lithuanians, Please! I think they are a very flexible civ with interesting strategies: relic hunt, early drush and"hoang style" (because their monasteries work faster). Their tech tree is pretty open, so it's very easy to get lost in options. Would be great to hear your ideas about the civ :D
I think Incas have a Good Bonus for Nomad. Their House Bonus is pretty strong there!
i just literally said i hope you make an incas video and i refreshed to see my prayers answered
Haha just rediscovered this video. Well, RIP Incas. Haven't seen them played in my ranked games a single time since the nerf :(
Honestly super cool video i was in fear you would play noboru rush but i think its pretty nice to see you can also play incas with a standard opening and i believe its better for newer players to learn playing standard first.
For one of the next videos i would love to see Goth as i think they have one of the best dark ages in the game (with the free loom and cheap militia) but also maybe the most uncomfortable transitions in castle.
Would be really nice eventhough they might not be top tier
I'd love to see a video on how to play some of the worse civs, like Goths or Turks for example (as much as I love both of them they're really situational most of the time). Love to see a pro's approach and how to play into their strengths better without getting overrun early.
Thanks for the quality content. I would like a bulgarian/tatars video next (I really like them but cannot understand how to play them effectively)
Love the energy to make series like this mate 💪 keep it up
Only your micro saved there
Purely player power
He produced n contested solidly
I'm late to the comments but I'm leaving one anyway for our friend Alfred. You know, Mr. Gorithm.
I watched this now to the end... man come on its not about INKAS or Slingers :D LETS be honest ! YOUR amazing ON POINT micro won here this game! seriously you killed about 5-6 manginals and smashed his whole army of crossbows :D while he killed what 10-20 crossbows hahah the whole game :D No chance here against this BRILLIANT micro! NILI played this very well though! but what can you do when your opponent micros like Flash Gordon ^^ sick splits!!
When I came back to the game I had the most trouble learning how to play MALIANS. So that will be my suggestion
Italians seem like a lot of fun but I'm always struggling with them. Same with Burmese. Thanks a lot, this is great content.
Great series Hera! Very helpful! Please do Tatars for the next episode. I really love the civ and I find very few pro players actually playing with it.
I would like to see Ethiopians and Vietnamese. Keep up the good (and very instructive) work!!
It would also be cool to get a short update of your civ tierlist given the balance changes and new maps. I know most civs haven't really changed, so you could just pick out the few (if any) you think have moved since the last one.
My fav civ
15% off a 125 stone tower would make it cost 106.25 stone. I haven't confirmed these numbers in game, but It looks like you'll be missing 6 stone for a second town center in castle age. It's easy enough to send one villager out to collect the stone in one trip without building a mining camp.
EDIT: Chris points out they only need 85 stone for a town center. So they are good to go!
You should probably review the best civ in the game next: Malians. Gbetto Hype!
U will not be missing stone because the town center will cost 100 minus 15% so it"s good
They don't need 100 stone for a tc. They need 85.
I LOVE this series. Please keep doing it and please do Ethiopians eventually!
Magyars next please Hera. Thanks for the great content!
@Hera - great series, love the content and explanations you bring. I wish I could play as you do, but I can't even speak that fast as you do :-)
Gotta do Byzantines. An overlooked, weird Civ that can get something done. If you win with Byz vs anyone you look legit. How to play Byzantines pro grade!
Well played. I really like your commentary as well.
I just wanna drop here, that the Lama has more vision range than a sheep and it makes more sense to scout with it, if you find your sheep right at the start. :)
Hera with the conscription hotkey, I like it
men why pro dont play with incas in tournaments?.. i win a lot with kamayuk, they smash calvary and infantry
Love the series! Thank you!
I really loved the video, next week I'd like cumans, since it's one of the weirdest civs to play and I like them, but i'm not sure if my build order is as efficent as it could
your speech speed is alright dont worry, and for those having a hard time you can always watch at 0.75x speed 11
b h yeahh for real
The only real problem with Incas is their crud team bonus; it's practically non-existent, it should have been some other kind of small eco or combat bonus.
Yes, it's technically an eco bonus as is, but it's _extremely_ negligible, it even has the Saracen bonus laughing.
love your vids!! I'd like to see Franks next :)
Hi Hera, could you do another one for nerfed Incas? I'm very disappointed they nerfed the vil rush in Feudal.
I feel reluctant to abandon my hope in this civ tho. So I'm just seeking out for some redemption here..
PS. Thanks so much for your beginners to 2k guide. I benefited a lot climbing from 11+ to 14+
Could you do a video on stances, group control and amount of production buildings? There is quite a good amount of build orders that cover dark and feudal age, but castle and imp are more a « do your own thing ». I tend to struggle to keep my cavalry/eagles in front of my xbows as they a) either run inside enemy TC fire chasing enemies on defensive stance b) don’t attack anything if on stand ground patrol. Any tips would be appreciate towards late game.
Wish you could’ve hyped the Kamayuk a little more, nice pierce armour as well and if you stand ground patrol them into fights they absolutely dominate most infantry
If Incas Didn't have the Slinger, what would be a good plan B if Aztecs transition into Eagles?
Like this series very very much!
I would love to see some Indians. I dont see them played at all, but I think they are quite good. So I would like to know how to play them like pro.
You should do Aztecs, I think I'm not the only one who would like to see the S civ in action
I would like to see Vikings after they featured so heavily in the Red bull tourney
Btw, anybody else find Meso-Civs unit make-up too dull? Not having horses, or elephants, or camels. Particularly Aztecs and Mayans - at least Incas have the slinger as an added bit of flair. With Mayans and Aztecs I would know before the game even started, before I know who my opposition is, that I'm going to end up creating loads of their unique units, and eagles - and skirms and halbs. Anybody else feel similarly?
@Hera, pls make a video about the equipment you use: computer specs, mouse keyboard and mods. I love your channel btw, awesome work.
Please do Byzantines! As a new player they’re recommended a lot!
This architeture style is not mesoamerican?this are corect?
How much does a hill contribute to range ?
I would like to see Turks next, maybe a fast imp strategy? :)
i cant believe they let him pause
Hera wouldnt have lost 0-4 to mr Yo
If anyone could help... If I play Mayans how do I deal with Incas?
i think goth would be nice
i now that in lategame you just spam huskarls but how do you get there and what are alternatives
or what about byzantines with their cheaper trashspam and a defensive civ
is it different to play then other civs?
teutons would be nice too
you don't always spam huskarl in late-game with goth. in fact doing so might be an economic suicide vs a good player with a decent civ vs goth. Remember goths get decent hussars and cavaliers (miss last armor but nobody's gonna spam archers vs goths anyways so they do the job), hand canonneers (highly required vs civs with strong champs/inf that counter your cheaper but weaker inf.), or heavy scorps/onagers, with bombard cannons. Now goth infantry flood with scorps and bombard cannons is an army made out of nightmare.(but gold hungry). Goth are excellent to do drush/m@a (duh), otherwise play like a generic civ, they are adequate for any rush, but don't invest too heavily into crossbows. Their knights are generic but a solid option for castle age before you get a castle up.
SilverBane thank you ^^
I am always learning from this
Would like to see a civ good at early raiding and trash war, maybe aztec or something I am not aware of.
We want to play Koreans now! the biggest underdogs of the pack
War wagons fill so strong
Do Kamayuks counter both infantry and Cavalry? Who wins between a champion and a Kamayuk?
kamayuks in mass will win vs both cav and infantry. So yes 30-40 kamayuks should beat 30-40 champions
Hera - Age of Empires 2 wow! Thanks a ton! That’s super interesting.
Wow, beautifully played
Incas is bad at late Imperial. Eagles not strong enough to take on cavalier/paladin/two-hands/champions. Slingers and Kaymeoks too slow to dodge onager and Incas have nothing to counter bombard. Very frustrating to play in team games when all the powerful units come out and your best units cost more gold and are weak
Kamayuks beat paladins and champions when in massed fights. In team games very micro intensive. You have to fight the infantry and cav and avoid ranged opponents.
can you do a so you want to play aztecs or berbers??
Incas' team bonus has to be one of the worst bonuses in the game.
Would be nice to see it changed out for literally anything else
I’ve been playing Ethiopians lately. I wouldn’t mind a video on them.
Before watching the vid all i want to know is ... HOW THE HELL do you beat CAVALRY as Incas
I Saw this Game 3 times today.... Half on Twitch... The other half in spectator Mode and now on TH-cam 11111111
...without further a¡Dude!... (cheers!)
Hera definitely had a few drinks before this one. the slurring of words most notable than past vids
i dont drink buddy
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 Good, couldn't even image how it would sound if you were
Jonslow will slap you in the face for saying that Inca's are not good in Arena.
General Clasher Agreed. Incas is a solid Arena civ, capable of holding its own against tons of different civs, even some of the traditional power ones like Aztecs or Malay.
Ethiopians, you seem to use them super well
Please do Ethiopians I want to learn more about its archers and siege!
KO-REANS :-) (no seriously.. K-POP in AOE!)
and: Great series, really. But if you could slow down like 10%, it'd be good for a healthy heart of your viewers! BR!
maybe so you wanna play Aztecs or Celts. Celts transition o imperial age is pretty hard
Malians might be neat