SPOILER This is the first loss of the series but i think it was still educational and fits the theme of the series. You guys can even leave a comment on what you think I could do differently to yield better results. Keep in mind if you change a part of my strategy in hindsight, Laan can also adapt his strategy as well. Enjoy!
It’s 11.1 because the it’s 10% less training time, not overall faster creation. If it was 50% less creation time, (e.g. from 10 seconds to 5 sec) you would produce two eagles in the time it would normally take to create one, hence it would be double as “fast”, = 100% faster. Same with 10% less creation time = 11.1% more produced eagles.
@Hera , this series is great! It's so helpful. I was wondering if you could maybe do something similar for the most popular maps (or even weird maps)? I think it would be really great to have you play through the ranked maps and talk about the best strategies (like 'controlling lakes on four lakes', etc.).
You should use a rec to cast during the game play phase. This way you can pause the game, explain the decisions that are available when playing as the civ and also pick a game that shows the civ strengths (or weaknesses).
As an Aztec player around 1100 elo, I feel cheated that the Aztec tutorial vid is actually a loss! But yeah, most of the information in the vid is actually solid enough so I'm not really complaining. I think your original plan was eagles / monks, but you were a bit complacent on the monk micro letting them get sniped like that. Good plan but unfortunate to get so little done vs those knights so they could just snowball from that point to an uncontrollable mass. As for those in the chat who were questioning Aztecs pikes, they're actually pretty strong and definitely will counter cavaliers in post-imp once Garland Wars is completed. But forget it if you're missing Garland Wars..
I would love your opinions on countering Heavy Cav, because against Teutons.... all of the normal strategies simply dont hold up as well because Teutons get conversion resistance AND additional Melee armor. I have been wracking my brain against the Extreme AI and the only times I beat the AI are when they dont Knight rush FC lol
What's your opinion on Aztec pikes (post imp)? Will they trade well against cav? I played a hill fort game against Lithuanians, they got map control in fuedel kept it into castle, so he had relics, but I think I had the better boom. My eagles traded horribly, so I went for a pike SR push to his monastery, once he didn't have the relics I tried eagles again and they traded more evenly than pikes. It never really felt like my pikes did well, but at least my eco could support the loses. That game made me favor Mayans over Aztecs, because arbs, halbs, and I feel like eagles are just as good with el dorado. Am I missing some with Aztecs?
Aztec eagles are better for raiding, mayans eagles are just a bit better in direct fight. Pikes are still very cost effective against cavalry, you have the +4 atack that you pay for your eagles, so it comes free sort to say to the pikes. They are still worse than regular halbs vs cavalry, of course, but you save 600 gold of this update. Aztecs are absolute destruction against infantry(their jaguars have 30 total atack vs infantry) and archers(strongest skirms, eagles, siege onagers), but you have to know your stuff to win against cavalry/elephant civs. Khmer, Byzantines are especially difficult. In that case, you have to go with monk, eagles and pikes mixed with them, if he is going heavier on archers then trade the pikes for skirms. You have options, that is sure.
One civ I, and I think a lot of noobs struggle with is Turks. I greatly appreciate your videos Hera and helping me improve. I still play voobly, but my rating has gone from 15xx, to almost 17xx in just a couple months. I’m really hoping to break 1700 in the next month or 2.
Dear Hera, this series is fantastic and thank you for the aztec episode :) I do not think losing or winning changes the value of your civ presentation! I think for a lot of noobs like me, an advice on the strengths/uses of the eagle warriors would be useful. I play a lot of mayans, but I rarely use eagles because apart from raiding and sniping trebs, I have the feeling they are outclassed. Against archers, I prefer skirms, and against cav, I prefer halbs.
I think, having played Aztecs against AI extreme, the goal is to all in Eagles before they can build knights. Once they have knights, player or AI, it becomes difficult unless you have significant Monk micro. I practiced against AI Teutons, who kept FC Knights and LS and the standard counters of Monks, eagles, jaguars were simply not enough. It took some ingenuity, luck and hyper aggression to beat them back. Also Eagles with +2 armor are nightmares for any ball of ranged because the eagles literally take 1 - 2 damage. I'm by no means talented enough to be correcting you in how to play the Aztecs, just throwing my observations from personal experience against "perfect" micro. Knights are the ultimate counter to any Meso civilization and planning for that above all else is key. If they are dumb enough to go archers, or infantry then its instant gg with eagles and monks, or skirms, or any other supporting unit.
"Some nerd on the internet pointed that" I instantly thought on SotL when he breaks and corrects the various percentages in the game lol Im sorry ahahaha
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 nah dude. Its not like the that. You got the tone in a wrong way. Its more like im being desparate. Text can be deadly. Do a khmer man. Do a khmer.
In your interview after hidden Cup 4 you said that you think Bulgarians have a good matchup against Aztecs. Why is that so? Did something change since you made this video?
For a weird reason, I can`t play meso civs. I mean, not because of the lack of skills (that too) but I would never choose them if not random. They just feel too distant for me
knights are the bane of aztecs. I don't get it when people say that EW are great against knights... unless you have a 3:1 ratio, knights will eat them really fast
EW are way cheaper than knights though. I completely agree with you, they feel so week against them, even against archers in castle (unless they are fully upgraded in imperial)
Love your videos Hera. Quick feedback. I get overwhelmed when you talk about the 1,000 different things you can do with Aztecs. I am assuming most of your followers are between 900 and 1,200 elo like me, and we love civs like Franks, Mayans, etc. that have a very clear game plan (i.e. scouts into knights, drush FC into archers, etc.). I am afraid of playing civs like Aztecs cause I don't know what to do. So I would suggest that instead of talking about all the things you could do, you would choose to show us one and stick to it, explaining it in detail. I am aware it would not be ideal because pro players need to adapt to the map, the other civ, what the opponent does, etc. but I think it would be better for people like me who would then be able to lose the fear on the civ and give it a try, following your instructions.
This game exactly highlights why aztecs are so easily countered (especially in my mid level elo) I just don't know what to do against massed knights like this. yeah ok but I can't micro them fast enough to convert them all...
The trick, I have found, is to mass eagles before they hit Castle and INSTANTLY go to their gold. Even if they FC Knights, if you have 8 eagles, and you can upgrade them AT ALL when hitting Castle Age, you should be able to snipe any knights that come out while you harass their gold. If you dont, then you have to immediately switch into pikes and monks and hope for the best...
Mayans for me are much stronger than Aztecs, infantry is usually rubbish in this game, Aztecs really lack mobility and strong units, also they don’t have any archer bonuses
I'm inclined to agree. Aztecs seem to be the weakest of the Meso civs when it comes down to brass tacks. MAyans get powerful eagles and cheap Archers, Incas have Halbs and anti infantry options, Aztecs have early aggro....
First... Hey hear.its SOOOOGOOOD to see Young people playing this game I've loved since the 90s? 2000s? I'm still always trying to improve (I'm 31) i played with a buddy ad hoc in afghanistan it was terrible. Good luck to you I see many tourney dubs in your future.
I think Aztecs dont have bad civ matchups as much as a clear weakness that they drop off in power compared to basically every other civ once the early Imp Eagle push is over. If the opponents survive this and still have eco left then it looks really bad for Aztecs bc they usually burn through most of their gold in the process. The hardest Matchup for Aztecs is propably Incas bc you cant really play Eagle Warrior in Castle Age but they can.
It's 100% teutons. Their conversion resistance makes any counter 100% more difficult. Incas may have anti infantry Slingers, but they are still susceptible to Eagles, let alone skirmishers who can out range them. That isn't to dismiss incas strengths, but I would rather face Incas as Aztecs, than Teutons.
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This is the first loss of the series but i think it was still educational and fits the theme of the series. You guys can even leave a comment on what you think I could do differently to yield better results. Keep in mind if you change a part of my strategy in hindsight, Laan can also adapt his strategy as well. Enjoy!
Didn’t you also lose to DauT when u first played as Slavs? DauT was Mongols, u were Slavs... but yeah, u did get ur revenge in the next game!
@@niks2584yt yeah i did replay it, i guess i shud clarify that this is the only video that doesn't feature a win! haha
should have Hoang rushed 11
And Malians too, but i think that match was only on twitch and you have not uploaded to youtube, right?
Very nice video... I frequently feel that I learn more from your losses than your wins. Unfortunately, you don't lose enough so my ELO is suffering.
Hera: This is actually 11.1%, some nerd on the internet figured that out I think I read it somewhere
Spirit of the Law: ...
being a nerd is actually a really good thing in 2020
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2
Says the micro nerd :^)
Keep up the content man, it's always good to see solid educational videos coming out
It is 11.1% faster, or 10% less time. For some reason in the game they mistake speed with less time.
Hera - Age of Empires 2 always has been
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It’s 11.1 because the it’s 10% less training time, not overall faster creation.
If it was 50% less creation time, (e.g. from 10 seconds to 5 sec) you would produce two eagles in the time it would normally take to create one, hence it would be double as “fast”, = 100% faster.
Same with 10% less creation time = 11.1% more produced eagles.
YES SIR. Been waiting for this love your work man!
My pleasyre sir!
@Hera , this series is great! It's so helpful.
I was wondering if you could maybe do something similar for the most popular maps (or even weird maps)? I think it would be really great to have you play through the ranked maps and talk about the best strategies (like 'controlling lakes on four lakes', etc.).
You should use a rec to cast during the game play phase. This way you can pause the game, explain the decisions that are available when playing as the civ and also pick a game that shows the civ strengths (or weaknesses).
I need that calm to play nice while being pushed 🤣
I can’t attack and defend at the same time lol
This is a great series thanks for sharing this knowledge with us peons !
I'd like to see a vid on the Ethiopians some day :)
Great series. Byzantines next please!
This is quick lesson that tells never build eagle warrior.
but eagles are ridiculously strong, just khmer have an awesome eco for getting those knights out
I think eagles can be good, but only if you use them with crossbows or skirmishers
As an Aztec player around 1100 elo, I feel cheated that the Aztec tutorial vid is actually a loss! But yeah, most of the information in the vid is actually solid enough so I'm not really complaining.
I think your original plan was eagles / monks, but you were a bit complacent on the monk micro letting them get sniped like that. Good plan but unfortunate to get so little done vs those knights so they could just snowball from that point to an uncontrollable mass.
As for those in the chat who were questioning Aztecs pikes, they're actually pretty strong and definitely will counter cavaliers in post-imp once Garland Wars is completed. But forget it if you're missing Garland Wars..
I would love your opinions on countering Heavy Cav, because against Teutons.... all of the normal strategies simply dont hold up as well because Teutons get conversion resistance AND additional Melee armor. I have been wracking my brain against the Extreme AI and the only times I beat the AI are when they dont Knight rush FC lol
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Play aztecs, so you too can lose like Hera. Love this vid and this series man :D
What's your opinion on Aztec pikes (post imp)? Will they trade well against cav? I played a hill fort game against Lithuanians, they got map control in fuedel kept it into castle, so he had relics, but I think I had the better boom. My eagles traded horribly, so I went for a pike SR push to his monastery, once he didn't have the relics I tried eagles again and they traded more evenly than pikes. It never really felt like my pikes did well, but at least my eco could support the loses. That game made me favor Mayans over Aztecs, because arbs, halbs, and I feel like eagles are just as good with el dorado. Am I missing some with Aztecs?
Aztec eagles are better for raiding, mayans eagles are just a bit better in direct fight. Pikes are still very cost effective against cavalry, you have the +4 atack that you pay for your eagles, so it comes free sort to say to the pikes. They are still worse than regular halbs vs cavalry, of course, but you save 600 gold of this update. Aztecs are absolute destruction against infantry(their jaguars have 30 total atack vs infantry) and archers(strongest skirms, eagles, siege onagers), but you have to know your stuff to win against cavalry/elephant civs. Khmer, Byzantines are especially difficult. In that case, you have to go with monk, eagles and pikes mixed with them, if he is going heavier on archers then trade the pikes for skirms. You have options, that is sure.
Is 1 villager really worth the 225 gold for 5 archers?
One civ I, and I think a lot of noobs struggle with is Turks. I greatly appreciate your videos Hera and helping me improve. I still play voobly, but my rating has gone from 15xx, to almost 17xx in just a couple months. I’m really hoping to break 1700 in the next month or 2.
Spanish and Malay are some very undervalued civs
Knights + crossbows just too OP together.
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"How not to play with Aztecs"
What is the best strategy ??
showing a loosing game was actually alot more informative ty ty
Dear Hera, this series is fantastic and thank you for the aztec episode :) I do not think losing or winning changes the value of your civ presentation! I think for a lot of noobs like me, an advice on the strengths/uses of the eagle warriors would be useful. I play a lot of mayans, but I rarely use eagles because apart from raiding and sniping trebs, I have the feeling they are outclassed. Against archers, I prefer skirms, and against cav, I prefer halbs.
LMAO! So funny I did not expect you to lose!! Seemed like elite skirm/pikes and monks/seige together would have been good.
Hera just called Spirit of the Law a "Nerd" LOL
Does Atl-Atl apply to Genitours if you have a Berber teammate? I know this is a 1v1 series but I was just curious.
Saracens please?! With Market Abuse!
I love your stream and videos, awesome job sniping those 2 sheep MBL stole from you the other day.
Really enjoy these videos!
I was waiting this thanks Hera
I think, having played Aztecs against AI extreme, the goal is to all in Eagles before they can build knights. Once they have knights, player or AI, it becomes difficult unless you have significant Monk micro. I practiced against AI Teutons, who kept FC Knights and LS and the standard counters of Monks, eagles, jaguars were simply not enough. It took some ingenuity, luck and hyper aggression to beat them back. Also Eagles with +2 armor are nightmares for any ball of ranged because the eagles literally take 1 - 2 damage. I'm by no means talented enough to be correcting you in how to play the Aztecs, just throwing my observations from personal experience against "perfect" micro. Knights are the ultimate counter to any Meso civilization and planning for that above all else is key. If they are dumb enough to go archers, or infantry then its instant gg with eagles and monks, or skirms, or any other supporting unit.
Byzantines, oh sorry.... please
Taking enemy boar is sportsmanlike. IT'S PART OF THE GAME. Slay that beast. This is war. Don't give in to the cry babies.
If it's such a balance problem, go cry to Microsoft, maybe they will make some baby changes for you kids.
"Some nerd on the internet pointed that" I instantly thought on SotL when he breaks and corrects the various percentages in the game lol
Im sorry ahahaha
MAN DO KHMER, been telling you since months now. DO A KHMER
Oh ok some random guy on the internet commanded me to do something i better listen
Hera - Age of Empires 2 haha 😂
@@HeraAgeofEmpires2 nah dude. Its not like the that. You got the tone in a wrong way. Its more like im being desparate. Text can be deadly.
Do a khmer man.
Do a khmer.
But you are Saracen, you should ask that if your profile name was Khmer
@@DBrunoAraujo nah. Im too lazy. To change my name.
In your interview after hidden Cup 4 you said that you think Bulgarians have a good matchup against Aztecs. Why is that so? Did something change since you made this video?
so the jumping to the tc and the eagle.
is that command groups?
For a weird reason, I can`t play meso civs. I mean, not because of the lack of skills (that too) but I would never choose them if not random. They just feel too distant for me
Where do you live?
@@DBrunoAraujo Europe :) but I meant the distant not that way
@@petermari8299 it was a joke mate :)
@@DBrunoAraujo sorry, short night 11
Nice game man. Learn more from loses than wins. Tatar next? Need to see if what I"m doing is optimal! Keep up the good content.
How about Saracens next? I find them interesting with the market and aggressive Castle age.
knights are the bane of aztecs. I don't get it when people say that EW are great against knights... unless you have a 3:1 ratio, knights will eat them really fast
EW are way cheaper than knights though. I completely agree with you, they feel so week against them, even against archers in castle (unless they are fully upgraded in imperial)
@@javi4144 yep they don't even kill archers in castle
So You Want To Loose As Aztecs
I want a So you want to play Celts
hey hera, can you do goths next please? :D
Love your videos Hera. Quick feedback. I get overwhelmed when you talk about the 1,000 different things you can do with Aztecs. I am assuming most of your followers are between 900 and 1,200 elo like me, and we love civs like Franks, Mayans, etc. that have a very clear game plan (i.e. scouts into knights, drush FC into archers, etc.). I am afraid of playing civs like Aztecs cause I don't know what to do. So I would suggest that instead of talking about all the things you could do, you would choose to show us one and stick to it, explaining it in detail. I am aware it would not be ideal because pro players need to adapt to the map, the other civ, what the opponent does, etc. but I think it would be better for people like me who would then be able to lose the fear on the civ and give it a try, following your instructions.
I can run a 9 minute feudal and i've never felt fitter
Would like to see the Tatars! So little people use them, but u seem to think they're underated.
Is it possible to apply pressure with Eagles in Feudal Age?
Credit to you for posting a loss on YT
Hi hera can you do Huns next??
This game exactly highlights why aztecs are so easily countered (especially in my mid level elo) I just don't know what to do against massed knights like this. yeah ok but I can't micro them fast enough to convert them all...
The trick, I have found, is to mass eagles before they hit Castle and INSTANTLY go to their gold. Even if they FC Knights, if you have 8 eagles, and you can upgrade them AT ALL when hitting Castle Age, you should be able to snipe any knights that come out while you harass their gold. If you dont, then you have to immediately switch into pikes and monks and hope for the best...
@@SaSeshen cheers mate, good insight
should name it: How to lose with Aztecs
I think with all the xbows 1 onager would have pushed him back pretty hard behind walls at least
What can Aztecs do against full cav civs ?
They don't have a good answer to heavy cav
I'd say he didn't Aztecs the best you can. IMHO Aztecs shouldn't play eagles until imperial. Xbows is much better until you get the castle technology.
do you want to play the Magyars?
I can feel the league of legends title vibe in this series
How do you delete buildings/fences so fast?
So you want to push with knights as Aztecs
Thanks! Berbers or Indians next please!
You got steam rolled hard
Love the series. Franks next please! :D
Hum, shouldn't you attack him, raid him with the fast eagles to push him to go back to his base instead of taking such a dangerous fight ?
Yeah and just like he mentioned, he is really missing mangonel in his home.
Mayans for me are much stronger than Aztecs, infantry is usually rubbish in this game, Aztecs really lack mobility and strong units, also they don’t have any archer bonuses
I'm inclined to agree. Aztecs seem to be the weakest of the Meso civs when it comes down to brass tacks. MAyans get powerful eagles and cheap Archers, Incas have Halbs and anti infantry options, Aztecs have early aggro....
You should do something like "so you want to play arena" or hideout
First... Hey hear.its SOOOOGOOOD to see Young people playing this game I've loved since the 90s? 2000s? I'm still always trying to improve (I'm 31) i played with a buddy ad hoc in afghanistan it was terrible. Good luck to you I see many tourney dubs in your future.
So you want to play Saraciens, pls next!
I think Aztecs dont have bad civ matchups as much as a clear weakness that they drop off in power compared to basically every other civ once the early Imp Eagle push is over. If the opponents survive this and still have eco left then it looks really bad for Aztecs bc they usually burn through most of their gold in the process.
The hardest Matchup for Aztecs is propably Incas bc you cant really play Eagle Warrior in Castle Age but they can.
It's 100% teutons. Their conversion resistance makes any counter 100% more difficult. Incas may have anti infantry Slingers, but they are still susceptible to Eagles, let alone skirmishers who can out range them. That isn't to dismiss incas strengths, but I would rather face Incas as Aztecs, than Teutons.
How and where to download this pleaseeeee replyyyy❤️
Nice! :)
Great game maybe some siege and monks.... love the content.
Continue the series please
are you going to do the Japanese?
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liked before watching :D
BYZANTINES BYZANTINES BYZANTINES
you play it like maniac :D DO you have even fun ? ...
All comments are 2 years old. Is this vid still viable?
I need the subtitle Canadian i couldn't enjoy this full
huns next pls
I wanna byzantines
Lithuanians next please
So I dont want to play aztecs
Why didn't you get wheelbarrow in feudal when you had ~450 food?
Portuguese next!
Please do Britons next
Wall and make archer
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nice guide lol
Celts next one!
Do italians next pls (:
Wait, the Nerf BRITONS pls legend????????????
@@emilyding2496 yeah
@@SalvThe1 , the legend replies??????????
@@emilyding2496 first thing im not a legend second thing yeah i will reply why the hell not
Should have been titled how to not play Aztecs lol
Saracens please.. im your new subscriber.. 😊
Lets do magyars😍
So you want to play Aztecs? Ok... easy win, don’t even worry about anything.
*spoilerr
I get that you didn’t win, but man Aztecs can be soo cheesy :)
Japanese next please
Magyars please!!!
So you want to play aztecs? Don't, they suck. Even me, Hera, the king, lost with them.
too long! more of these! :)
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Japaneese or khmer please!!!
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