Never Run Out of Cannabis by Following THESE Tips for a Perpetual Harvest

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  • @ChadWestport
    @ChadWestport 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    What a blast! Thank you DGC and big love to the chat :)

    • @GSCEPT12
      @GSCEPT12 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Loved the "Continual" way of growing you mentioned Chad. So I can actually say for the moment I'm on a perpetual schedule that will soon downgrade to a Continual once I have "enough" flowers or until my hands fall of from trimming 😂😂😂😂 Party On 🤙🤙🤙💚💚

  • @edwardhayes5356
    @edwardhayes5356 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    I have a perpetual grow.. custom built 4x6 flower grow box and I Veg in my closet that's about 3x4 ...it's a lot of work keeps u busy... Really test ya skills ...I have separate everything for Flower and Veg ...I even have seedling clones tents I built ...I love the ability to harvest plants while others are still growing... And I don't like to feel what I call "growers depression" when u walk into an empty space that was just booming with plants😭😭

    • @SpacedOutCluez
      @SpacedOutCluez 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love the test bro you did it and striving ❤️

    • @stevemuller82muller65
      @stevemuller82muller65 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Keep up the great work bro 😎🤙 much love from Pennsylvania 🥳🇺🇲

    • @seatsniffer91
      @seatsniffer91 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Growers depression is a real thing!! 😅

  • @BootLegBandit
    @BootLegBandit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I want to thank Uncle Jim jr's Uncle. For your service to this country.

  • @tattoosbylego3886
    @tattoosbylego3886 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Definitely a good show DGC
    I run a propagation tent , a veg tent , 2 flower tents and a drying tent so that I harvest alternating flower tents every 4 weeks. It helps running consistent genetics that I know will finish in 8 weeks ish to keep everything on schedule.

  • @MR-puffnstuff
    @MR-puffnstuff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Increase the veg PAR levels week by week and decrease 1 hour of veg light a week till you reach 12 on 12 off. All while increasing par levels slightly every week. This will imitate outdoor conditions and not loose a lot of par switching to flower from veg. Maybe play w the decrease time from 2 x a week or whatever have fun.

  • @user-eg8hb8xt3j
    @user-eg8hb8xt3j 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1 tent in my 13x18 grow room . I keep my moms and clones in my tent . I start my clones the day I shut the lights off . I let my plants dry standing in their grow medium . 60 degrees 62 humidity in the dark takes 4 weeks to dry that way sometimes. It makes trimming so easy too. For you guys in dryer climates this is a great way to slow your dry time .

  • @dannyarmata8878
    @dannyarmata8878 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Chads been killin in the community latly, really puttin in the work.
    Great show as always 👏

  • @MastA420
    @MastA420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I got a 2x2 I veg in, 2x4 that I use for flower and another 2x4 I use to dry. Just got done trimming after 16 days drying. Got 2 girls I'll start drying tomorrow 💪 I used to struggle to smoke everyday but now I struggle to keep up 😂 gonna have to buy more jars soon

  • @Johnnygrows_1
    @Johnnygrows_1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m not running perpetually till next year, but just curious on your thoughts of scrubbing/bleaching each tent clean before each transition?
    What’s the best way to keep the grow clean while running perpetual grows? Are flower tents more crucial to keep contaminants out vs veg?
    Much appreciated for any advice on this gents!

  • @greenplantface
    @greenplantface 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Scotty should have to do a .5 dab for every interruption 😆

    • @WWENETWORKGAMING
      @WWENETWORKGAMING 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't plot to kill the man 😂

    • @SlabHardcheese
      @SlabHardcheese 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, I can't watch anymore...

  • @liberalinoklahoma1888
    @liberalinoklahoma1888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Spring is almost here and I am transitioning from indoor to outdoor, I usually grow four plants outside with my vegetables then in fall I go inside and grow some auto with photo, when the autos are done I flip the photos into flowering.

    • @Userunknown0208
      @Userunknown0208 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol, i do the Same Thing

  • @lordoftheturps9337
    @lordoftheturps9337 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    J R put a frozen water bottle in your aero cloner just swap it out everyday keeps water colddddd

  • @jimmyanderson420
    @jimmyanderson420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Let's go!!!! Let's go Minnesota growmies!!!

  • @Pungolian-nw2yt
    @Pungolian-nw2yt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great show guys, thanks for all your insights

  • @richardskull5279
    @richardskull5279 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I am about to try grafting different strains onto 1 mother, so i can keep my favorites and keep a low plant count.

    • @frydaybeats4021
      @frydaybeats4021 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow never thought to do that. Awesome man.

    • @malloycade8626
      @malloycade8626 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brilliant

  • @MR-puffnstuff
    @MR-puffnstuff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Paint ball gun CO2 tank refill system 150 and up you can refill CO2 tanks on the fly at home and charge your friends to refill there's.

    • @growwise5618
      @growwise5618 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the tip💚

  • @aussiedigger1441
    @aussiedigger1441 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sux we don't get Recharge in Australia! Love you all & this show rocks guys!

  • @MR-puffnstuff
    @MR-puffnstuff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    4X8 or 8X8 flower tent for flowering only split into 2 or 3 or even 4 sections. Don't fill the whole area at once. Fill half or a third at a time 30 day's apart. Then have say another tent a veg tent we say a 4X4. In there you veg plants also different stages from one another. Half or a third small and others bigger then rest biggest. Keep up the cycles and you be rocking. You can even work with males in this setup as well risky without a 3rd tent but can be done.

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I literally hate the idea of having to deal with harvest issues every couple weeks. It’s messy and it gives too many opportunities for drying issues. I find it a lot easier to dry bigger quantities altogether.

  • @jedediahbeaman7989
    @jedediahbeaman7989 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job guys!

  • @ZZ_Trop
    @ZZ_Trop 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3 tents, veg rack and a kiddie pool. Propagate and pop beans on veg rack in solo cups. After solo cup they get put into 1gal pots and chill in the kiddie pool until a tent opens up. Then I shove rm right in there. No dates, loose plans, no deadlines. Just going with the flow...

    • @ZZ_Trop
      @ZZ_Trop 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My "lung room" is the veg room. Nothing special just overhead commercial led light strips I salvaged. The 1gal pots are just getting basement lighting, I added an 8ft led overhead light recently and they're loving it. I keep the lighting low and the room pretty cool to slow down veg growth plus I run HPS for flowering.

    • @ZZ_Trop
      @ZZ_Trop 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I take cuts as plants get flowered and start showing sex. By the time they root and re-veg the flower is coming down.

  • @RubRubTuggington
    @RubRubTuggington 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think it’s the glasses that give it away! lol

  • @redeyegooner
    @redeyegooner 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I always took "perpetual harvest" to mean that something was always drying.

    • @superimposedgoat6009
      @superimposedgoat6009 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think that would still be accurate here, right!? 😉

  • @freddysfish2424
    @freddysfish2424 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I only had 1 mother and it was a Maui Wowie. The red ants got to it as I was growing it outside I live in Cali so it's cool. I only grow 2 outside because they get huge and on a main street.

  • @Olga-ut8sm
    @Olga-ut8sm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What is the Name of that terpene book in View at 1:00:08? I would love to get one. Well done as usual guys 👏👏👏!

  • @bryonflaherty5957
    @bryonflaherty5957 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I run both photos and autos and obviously runs seeds and clones . I flipped my photos while my autos were finishing and I popped some auto seeds and I’m vegging more photos . It seems to be working so far

  • @michaelbaker8626
    @michaelbaker8626 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Take cuttings at 2wk of flowering. 9days til roots then 2or 3 wks til they flick back to veg.another month in veg then into tent after I pull flowering lot

    • @lightinthedarkness5606
      @lightinthedarkness5606 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or just take them before or when you flip so you don't retard your plant and wasting three weeks trying to bud a small bud before it kicks back to veg

  • @user-de3uf5vn3x
    @user-de3uf5vn3x 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I smoke a clone with nobody else and you know when I smoke a clone i prefer it to be top shelf 👊😁💨👍

  • @melazaconsabor2028
    @melazaconsabor2028 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thats why i got one plant a week and not bigger than 2oz. Is trimming once a week. A bowl trimmer becomes really helpful. Is a good way to collect sugar leaf. I like trimming is my peaceful time.

  • @Mostly_pure_Indica
    @Mostly_pure_Indica 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey guys. Greetings from germany😀

    • @DudeGrows
      @DudeGrows  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hello there! 🙌🙌

  • @kentaggart2121
    @kentaggart2121 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    First world problems... "trimming weed you don't really need and it's piling up" I'm old enough to remember dry spells lasting weeks. Pretty wild how things have changed. Peace! Kenabyss DGC 🇨🇦

  • @josephmoore3543
    @josephmoore3543 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use recharge and grow dots! Awesome awesome products. Best and easiest way to grow. Thank you

  • @MsKaysworld
    @MsKaysworld 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great panel 👍

  • @melazaconsabor2028
    @melazaconsabor2028 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't mind trimming one plant twice a week. Always have fresh cannabis and different variety all yhe time. With 3 strain i got my perpetual. I found plants that like the similar embarrassment.

  • @marktumelson2202
    @marktumelson2202 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a growers guide from 1760 a Munk wrote about growing killer weed he uses striknine and glowns it or grows 7 generations before you can use it but it is super strong

  • @liberalinoklahoma1888
    @liberalinoklahoma1888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love learning and then put it to use, thanks for your videos.

  • @seatsniffer91
    @seatsniffer91 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That Box machine is nightmare fuel. It’s the reason we’re going to see way more sprayed packs in the future. Old weed sprayed with terps and remoisturized, smh…

  • @JRTokin
    @JRTokin 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That Unka Jim is Handsome!

  • @twistedrootfarm
    @twistedrootfarm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3 tents from ac infinity

  • @jwgrower81
    @jwgrower81 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    GREAT SHOW AS ALWAYS FELLAS 💯 PERCENT

  • @twistedrootfarm
    @twistedrootfarm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had two cuts from the same mother. One went in the ground the other in a pot the one in the ground went into flower. It's only like 6 inches high. The other is vegging fine

  • @Kyle-yr5uj
    @Kyle-yr5uj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When jr said gmo doesn’t do well outdoors. He obviously has never grown in outdoor in a light dep setting

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having shared air space, I can’t imagine where you have a time to safely burn, sulfur or spray your insecticide. Too much cross-contamination to soil your nice buds. Then, in reverse, I would never want the old flower room air going into the vegetations room, because the children are our future. My veg room is the one place I feel it is most important to keep pests out of.

  • @chuckbailey6835
    @chuckbailey6835 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dam missed the live again because i was planting flowers of all things then i come inside fill the watering can go in the other room to get the the recharge come back and my youngest boy watered the plants. He tells me your medicine flowers were thirsty

    • @dannybell926
      @dannybell926 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's fucking awesome dude

  • @michaeldowns5270
    @michaeldowns5270 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Inside grow is complicated. I just want to grow on my porch in the sun!

  • @georgem.6136
    @georgem.6136 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome show! Great panel!

  • @Intuititive1
    @Intuititive1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rooted Leaf products brings out farnacine

  • @LED4all
    @LED4all 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In a legal state like Colorado, if you have say 4 motherplants in one tent, and 36 square pots in a flower room, would the cops consider it 36 plants if they come from the same 4 motherplants? I mean really, you could achieve the same with 1 plant if you veg for months and scrog, but in effect if you are growing 36 single cola type plants, you're basically saving a lot of time and they are still the same cloned plant.

  • @bernielindell
    @bernielindell 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome show as always!

  • @dannybell926
    @dannybell926 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Michigan Matt with the Ghost shirt! Love it

    • @DudeGrows
      @DudeGrows  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I thought it was ghost 🤘😁👍 -G

  • @dreadnoughty1
    @dreadnoughty1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i have a 3x3 and a 2x4 tent for veg, 17 sq feet and 2 4x4 tents (16 sq feet each) flower tents

  • @KushByTheBush
    @KushByTheBush 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just got my tickets to Cali. Can’t wait for this years cup.

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I take air movement extremely serious. Where it’s going ultimately and where it’s coming from.

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I definitely do not have air space connected from flower to vegetation. That could be detrimental.

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I get something new, I always coded in wettable sulfur. It’s like a prophylactic in my mind, at least.

  • @citygonecountry150
    @citygonecountry150 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Whats the sale on the pulse zero and whats the coupon code please

  • @andymartinez6911
    @andymartinez6911 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is 3 rooms 1-6' × 12'/ 1- 5'× 5'/ 1- 5'× 8' tent enough lol I'm pulling At least 2-6 every 2 months

  • @tonypage9175
    @tonypage9175 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Scotty is wearing a grow dots color plaid shirt

  • @shawngremm3226
    @shawngremm3226 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wish u would do a video like this about autos

  • @JoshThomas-VA
    @JoshThomas-VA 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great show as always!!

  • @dannybell926
    @dannybell926 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    53:55 JR got me fucking dying 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @MikeParentLeap
    @MikeParentLeap 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My plants taco over 800 ppfd on my Photon

  • @TheRBW62
    @TheRBW62 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the DUDES, PEACE, But I grow outdoors.

  • @josephbennett2756
    @josephbennett2756 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent like always fellas 👏🏻👏🏻🔥

  • @jayloo2219
    @jayloo2219 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Michegan matt's mis en scene is intense and suggests wizard of oz type megalomania, perfectly balanced tho by the presence of uncle jim. Slick and informative as per normz.

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh yeah, Jimmy! Silver fox

  • @Joey0366
    @Joey0366 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perpetual is the way to grow 👍💨✌️

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don’t forget that you need to deep clean your room each flower cycle

  • @jordanbourgeois8704
    @jordanbourgeois8704 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rockin show fellas!!!!

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    OK there you go, Matt, and the children are our future. But we go back a generation with you since you keep moms. Mom’s high are the most important lol Mother’s Day is coming up.

  • @GSCEPT12
    @GSCEPT12 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Scotty stop trying to get 3lbs a light bro 😂😂 this went from perpetual to Co2 study . Much Luv!!! DGC!!! Chase Flavor and effect instead of yields..

  • @capt.obvious9058
    @capt.obvious9058 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who's spraying those classic Brute terps !?

  • @Crawdaddy1420
    @Crawdaddy1420 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who was measuring thc in the 70 & 80s?. I believe there was amazing cannabis back then.

  • @ManCityGaming47
    @ManCityGaming47 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It takes me 18-25 days to dry at 60-65F and 55-60RH.

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I took a bong hit, and now I just can’t stop worrying about shared air. Got too high off the glue.

  • @MoreBud-Angel
    @MoreBud-Angel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    28:46 Scottis Mom- Grown By Hot Box brand but I think its renamed Scottis Cake😎

  • @scottietimmons3322
    @scottietimmons3322 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about a 2 by 4 for clones, 4 by 4 for veg, and a 4 by 8 flowering non stop. once a month. 4 plants every month. . Just saying that's what I would do if I could.. KY Here💚✌️

  • @anneandricevic6820
    @anneandricevic6820 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another banger. Good job guys.

  • @warrenashr2579
    @warrenashr2579 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I couldnt afford to run a,bloom room ,a veg room ,clone and veg room .plus I cant maintain 60/60 indefinitely

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And another silver fox. And our spiky, haired stud, of course is our host.

  • @growingatthebeach9186
    @growingatthebeach9186 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thanks boys🤘✌️

  • @mauricecalliss1303
    @mauricecalliss1303 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    HAVE ANY OF THESE TERPENES ETC BEEN ADAPTED INTO AIR FRESHENERS / OR ENVIRONMENT ENHANCING ???

  • @Howmechanicstalk-jj5jg
    @Howmechanicstalk-jj5jg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great show dudes

  • @Jay-qn3ez
    @Jay-qn3ez 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1/3 for veg 2/3 for flower and extra space for drying lmao stoner math❤

  • @georgem.6136
    @georgem.6136 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dang it missed the live.

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t keep a mom but mom’s rock

  • @tonypage9175
    @tonypage9175 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Subscribed liked hit the bell

  • @johnkehoe8368
    @johnkehoe8368 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i want good old earthy pot that gets you cerebral high then after you relax and chill out i dont want to be smoking a joint and feel like i just ate a banana or a blueberry and alot of these flavored weeds are being sold as high end 300-500an oz which is way over board for prices if a grower is selling for 500 an oz on say 300 plants and you get what 1/2 a pound per plant so your looking at over 1mil rounding down over 3 months for those 300 plants whats the cost of these plants sure aint worth what its being sold for and if anyone believes its a 1 time run only your all wrong they save those cuts

  • @johnkehoe8368
    @johnkehoe8368 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    co2 in a commercial level is great,waste of money for home growers who just wanna smoke and save money in a house your ppm should he high enough anyways

  • @twistedrootfarm
    @twistedrootfarm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I clone my autos lol

  • @citygonecountry150
    @citygonecountry150 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Worst grow advise came from same person. Start winterfrost as soon as u go into flower and watering with 55 degree water is fine. I also heard this girl talk about how her plants love when she waters with soda water because it really gets the co2 right to the roots. Smh. I tried wxplaining things to ger but i think her ego was hurt and she didnt want to believe me. I try hard not to talk down to a person or seem like a know it all because all i really wsnted to do is help but unsolicited help can be taken a lot of different ways

  • @BagSeedBrodey
    @BagSeedBrodey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You need 2 bloom rooms and a veg that’s equal size, every 30 days refill another bloom…. Welcome

  • @BobD-yn3wj
    @BobD-yn3wj 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Always Be Trimming....lol💚

    • @viktorvaughn6595
      @viktorvaughn6595 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats the time u buy a tumbler 😅

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh, Dude’s here… If only he had a mullet, dammit

  • @twistedrootfarm
    @twistedrootfarm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I run auto so I can always have 3 lady's every 3 weeks

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mini Mom! Cute. Hey it’s A teenage pregnancy.

  • @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63
    @sunnyinbectopiad2g2c63 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BOING

  • @mauricecalliss1303
    @mauricecalliss1303 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Of my goldfish is evil and punky and brain ever teamed up then is humans are fucked man

  • @theboutiquegrower4617
    @theboutiquegrower4617 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mane stoners and basic terminology you think is simple just ain’t so many times. 🤣🤣

  • @scottietimmons3322
    @scottietimmons3322 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think I just got less smart
    .

    • @SammyDingusJr
      @SammyDingusJr หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damn maybe take some ginkgo biloba and do Sudoku?