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Hannah Telle (Max Caulfield) Interview - Life is Strange: Double Exposure • Hannah Telle (Max Caul...
00:00 Extended Gameplay
26:35 Deck Nine Interview
41:55 Hannah Telle Interview
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Welonz clearly curious if the sins of her past of not watering her plants comes back to hunt her
and dont forget the time she chose waffles over bacon and eggs!
8:26 Just thought I’d mention about how ‘different’ Max sounds. Back when the first Life is Strange game came out Hannah Telle talked about how much confidence she lacked as a voice actor in the role of Max, which in some ways helped because Max wasn’t exactly a confident character herself. As the recording sessions went on however she grew into the role a little better and felt more confident as an actress.
If you find older interviews from 2016, that quieter, shyer Max is literally how Hannah Telle sounded irl, compared to now, where she absolutely sounds different just due to growing as a person and having more confidence.
To me this just sounds like a confident Max/Hannah who’s more comfortable expressing a larger range of emotions than the first game’s Max/Hannah. It makes more sense as she’s around 29 years old in the story of Double Exposure, and Hannah Telle has had years to develop skills wise (though I think she put acting on a hiatus for school for a while too.)
She is older, a lot has changed in her life, she lived entire story first game. So yeah, that changed her and how she speaks.
One might say Max has a thing for smokers. :)
max is sadist then for wanting to take their breath away
So at the start of the first game, Max walks down the hallway while listening to soft acoustic music in her headphones, takes a picture of a butterfly, and then her friend gets shot.
At the start of the new game, Max walks down a path while listening to soft acoustic music in her headphones, takes a picture of an owl, and then her friend gets shot.
Does that mean that in one of the endings that owl will land of Safi's coffin?
Ah! Did anyone else recognize the bear head mug from Life is Strange 2!? :)
*pause* ‘when a door closes a window opens or something like that’
You’re so real for this😂😭😭💙💙💙
I've accepted the fanfiction "Debris" as my post LiS1 canon: there Max deliberately doesn't use Polaroid anymore to avoid the risk of photo-jumping.
It's good to hear Max (Hannah) again, but I think DeckNine has given themselves an impossible task, here.
A game that acknowledges/incorporates both endings, moves Max's personal story forward, AND has a new mystery with a new power/mechanic? That's a lot of ground to cover. We saw with True Colors that even with a new character and more linear power that accomplishing even one of those three aforementioned tasks isn't easy.
If they manage to get it to work, I'll be impressed. But to me... after all the shit they went through, man, Max and Chloe deserve to live out the rest of their lives in peace, y'know? Send in a new protagonist to deal with this new shit.
Eh? I thought True Colors was amazing and honestly the best LiS game overall. Well written, well acted, good balance of choice driven narrative.
@@CrazeeAdam The acting was excellent, no doubt. But True Colors also had a lot going on--Alex dealing with past trauma/current tragedy, the mystery of the town, balancing gameplay with narrative (since Alex can essentially read minds). It feels like a lot of good pieces, but with odd pacing and held together inadequately. I think DeckNine underestimated the development time (add in COVID layoffs, as well).
@@verticaldrive7994I think overall True Colours is the best LiS work yet (I pretty much include Tell Me Why).
Earlier titles had--- patchy, let's diplomatically say... ---writing, where it could swing wildly into really cringey melodrama. TC felt more restrained, subtle, and confident in its tone and moment to moment writing. It was also smart to build a power that is so centred in the LiS experience, i.e. reading people and dealing with emotions and their consequences.
I appreciated that the mystery in the town they were getting drawn into wasn't some gigantic world/town ending threat (Tell Me Why was a bit *too* low-key, I reckon, but TC found a good balance).
Plus, the romance with Steph felt so much more believable and natural. That's a remarkable combo and it was dealt with so well (never seen Ryan's arc).
Maybe they'll never return to Alex, but I'd really like them to. Max was always my least favourite POV character in these games. I have a feeling I'll like the older version much more, however. And Hannah's voice is just gorgeous and very distinct, so it's still nice to hear her playing Max again.
A pretty reasonable guess is I've heard is that one timeline has Ending 1 from the first game and the other is Ending 2. It would be a nice way for them not to take sides in terms of which ending is canon.
Smart! That would be a good idea from them :o. And the timeline where Safi is dead should be the one where Bae has lived, to make it harder for us.
Multiverses are handy. In one Max could be a super hero. In another PriceField is more than letting Arcadia Bay be destroyed. And in another this game could be developed in a misogynistic, profit driven company, where employees are forced to grind with constant arbitrary layoffs and edge-lords try and slip Nazi symbols into the game. Then, in that universe, they could charge up to $80, an extra $30 if you want to pet a cat, and another $100 for the swag edition. Except, wait…that’s our universe, I guess. No hate on speculation that this could be fine. One can hope. But there’s a lot of problems with the core concepts and real-life background of this game and they just keep piling up. 😱
I really believe this is the case. This is the Max that sacrificed Chloe and lived with this guilt all her life, never used her powers again, ended up in Caladon. Then when Safi dies, her powers reawakens and she shifts into another reality, where Safi and Chloe are alive. Probably gonna have a cute scene of her meeting Chloe again. I hope 😂
I think the backstory about Max and her nomadic life being drawn to desolate places makes a lot more sense for a post-Bay ending. To the point that even though I have always chosen Bae I'm tempted to pretend I didn't when I play this.
I always picked Bae as I just thought the rules of the power were so ludicrous, and it's such a dumb, contrived final choice. Max wasn't thinking 'yeah, fuck everyone in Arcadia [and the writers]', but I sure was. It's one of the few moments in a game where I was taken so far out of the experience my decision was based on spite and irritation at bad storytelling... Unfortunately the cinematic for Bae felt so threadbare that it looked like it was never supposed to even be a possible outcome.
I'll certainly stick to that choice, though, as mostly due to BtS I love Chloe.
Re what you said about the new one; wouldn't that kind of behaviour make more sense if she's essentially let her powers wreck a town? As in, not wanting to be in a place she can connect to too deeply, and potentially risk/endanger.
@@SabiJD For me I read the Bae choice as Max being okay with living with the consequences of *doing* things, even if they're devastating. She seems more at peace and not beaten down by feeling like she has to accept the world and these choices even though she wants to do something else.
Sacrifice Chloe transcript:
> Chloe: Max... it's time...
> Max: Chloe... I'm so, so sorry... I... I don't want to do this.
> Chloe: I know, Max. But we have to. We have to save everybody, okay? [...]
> Chloe: I'll always love you... Now, get out of here, please! Do it before I freak. And Max Caulfield? Don't you forget about me...
> Max: Never.
Sacrifice Arcadia Bay transcript:
> Chloe: Max... it's time...
> Max: Not anymore.
> Max tears apart the polaroid and it blows away in the storm. She watches the tornado.
> Chloe: Max... I'll always be with you.
> Max: Forever...
When Max sacrifices Arcadia Bay, she's doing what she wants to do. As a player I gave her permission to not be railroaded into a choice that (I agree) seems pretty contrived/irrational.
Max who seeks out the damaged, abandoned parts of the world and documents them (literally "not forgetting about them" even though society has moved on) sounds to me like a Max who feels like she's gone through a personal tragedy that no one can possibly understand, because no one remembers the 3-4 days that she lived.
In the Bae ending, while of course there's a lot of emotions to process and live with, Max has stopped second-guessing her decisions and she's living in accordance with her priorities. Her world and experiences match what everyone else lived through as well. I don't think she'd focus nearly as much on "what she lost" or what she'd had to give up in order to get where she is now.
Lots of people remember Arcadia Bay; she's not the only person who can tell/document that story or give voice to the people who are no longer here. Max isn't Steph, who lived through a tragedy and saw only suffering/destruction of her community - Max was the one saying this happened, it's okay, I can live with it, I won't stop it, and she's the one who *saved* something with that choice rather than it being just completely negative.
Also, honestly... Max's story after she sacrifices Chloe is about Max. Max's story after she sacrifices Arcadia Bay is about both of them. Since Chloe doesn't seem to be a big part of this new story, I kind of feel like I'm not going to be very satisfied with any explanation about why she's not there or why we're busy focusing on Safi and whoever else instead. I know that people break up or are no longer close friends (for a non-high romance Chloe), and that's fine/realistic/whatever, but it's narratively not very satisfying. Especially if the narrative decides that Max is just going to spend years feeling guilty and focusing on what's lost no matter what she decided to do or not do with her powers the first time around.
I'm also a little concerned that they seem to be conflating "respecting the two choices" with letting the player decide if Chloe and Max were explicitly non-platonic. There's kind of 4 options rather than 2. And if they weren't conflating them, wouldn't they have shown the choice about what happened to Arcadia Bay rather than this "high school sweethearts"/"friends" dichotomy?
Anyway, I just feel like I'm going to be a lot happier with this game if I pretend this is a Max that sacrificed Chloe and feels like she has a lot of regrets in her life (and did things because she felt like she had to but not because she wanted to, and this is maybe part 2 of coming to terms with that and coming to see herself as something other than a dangerous tornado-causer). Like now she can actually do something good with her powers, versus getting just a few days with Chloe out of them and having to send herself back in time and force herself not to use them.
Sorry for the essay! I'll be interested to see what the game does in any case
2022, first game set in 2013, Max is 27. Last seen with Chloe in a picture in David's trailer around 2016.
Yea its the universe where Max chose Bae
28.
I still have no idea how they're gonna handle the whole Chloe situation. The little blurb did mention romance so potentially giving Max someone new probably won't sit well with Pricefield people. Now, as a (shameless) Amberprice stan it wouldn't really bother me at all lol but I imagine that decision could piss alot of people off. I mean, it really wouldn't be a LIS game without gay romance after all 😂
alt realities will make that easier, but whether it is easy enought for writers is another question
as a pricefield stan, even though i’m gonna try my best to go the pricefield route im my personal playthrough, i have totally no problem with max finding a new love interest. i think it could be very adorable. especially if chloe is dead in your playthrough, max deserves love :3
@@ofcrgry Oh God, I just realized the potential to romance two different people at once, one in each timeline....
Looks like it won't matter what you chose in the first game. Chloe will either be dead or an ex-girlfriend. So much for Chloe being someone Max was willing to destroy a town over. Didn't work did it.
@@JanetDax A breakup kind of makes sense though. I'd feel weird being with someone after they destroyed an entire town for me and knowing I'm pretty much obligated to stay with them. Since Chloe already had tons of guilt at the end of the game I'd imagine she got even more psychological issues after the bae ending
"Both endings are valid" is not a realistic approach, and I don't think even the devs believe that, they're just trying to appease every player.
Max would be a RADICALLY different person based on the last decision of the first game.
The mountain of guilt would most likely completely wreck a highly empathetic person like Max.
But even if she doesn't self-destruct, she certainly wouldn't end up at the same exact point we start this new game, if she makes a different choice at the end of the 1st game.
Im glad Elyse was the interviewer. She.lives this franchise.
*pause* ‘when a door closes a window opens or something like that’
You’re so real for this😂😭😭💙💙💙 30:50
@33:53 '..where the Veil is weakest..?' Time to close some more Fade Rifts, Welonz! In all seriousness though, I can't wait to watch your playthrough of this. LiS has been such a central part of you channel for so long, and I know you'll do this new one justice.
26:23 Suspiciously specific denial. Drugs?
LIS taught me to not touch grass
The one that chibi Welonz likes the most 😤
If chibi Welonz reacts enough and we cheer chibi Welonz hard enough it might birth Vtuber Welonz lol, send your energy to bring thumbnail Welonz to life
pls no
Seems like a waste of money if you're not a streamer, a PNG that lights up on mic input would work just as well.
@@anitaremenarova6662 fair enough, call it wishful thinking, or perhaps something fun to whip out every once in a while. wasn't entirely a serious idea, but cool if it happens
Jesus, no!
Would I watch vtuber Welonz? Absolutely. But do I *need* a little avatar in the corner of her videos to really enjoy her content? Not really.
I like how she does her videos and I feel a little animated avatar isn’t necessary. Like, she’s already pretty great with her commentary and reactions just from her voice alone.
Also, personally what attracted me to TH-camrs like Welonz and Fooster is that they don’t use cams.
Glad they clarified this will take into account your own chosen ending from LIS1, honestly would have skipped it entirely if it made one ending canon over the other.
Globally the devs talk was reassuring in a way, but also made me feel like they don't want to deal with the aftermath of LIS1 too much, but make it more of a solo Max adventure / murder mystery, which can be fine in its own right.
Though Hannah Telle interview was also interesting, as it showed they have a story for what happened with Max for the past 10 years, so guess we'll have to see how much of that is actually in the game.
Also recognized more of teen Max from LIS1 in Hannah Telle's own voice during the interview, than during the gameplay, that's pretty funny :D Makes sense though that adult Max voice evolved a bit for this game.
The fact that Max has a Polaroid of blue haired Chloe is proof that Chloe is alive in one timeline…since Max only saw punk Chloe in the girls bathroom.
It would also effect LIS 2 as you can visit (sort of) the town on your way out of the northwest.
I'm subscribed to your channel for so long and I'm pretty sure it was because of Life is Strange and it's so cool that we're getting a new story with Max wich is something i honestly didn't think it would happen but here we are and i can't wait to watch your playthrough.
It is possible that they will use the two timelines to solve the dilemma of the two endings of the original - not only do they differ in Safi's status, but also in which ending was chosen
Loving these reaction videos, Welonz!
As confirmed by developers during the interview sections of the Deep Dive Livestream, both endings from LS 1 will be honored. At an early point in the game, you will have a conversation with Safi who will ask you questions about your past, and the answers you give are going to tell be the choices you made in the previous game…this allows newcomers to join in without having played Life is Strange 1, and to allow veterans a chance to remake any choice they wish.
I think while they say both can exist you have to remember death was after Chloe. A magic storm formed from keeping her alive. Everyone vs Chloe.
I think Chloe died either way but at different life times. She misses her and her art reflects it.
'Chloe died either way no matter whether you chose to save her' would kind of make the entire final choice of the first game pointless, though. That would be the opposite of respecting that decision.
Yeah no, we already know that Chloe is fine from Life is Strange 2 if you choose the Bae ending as your base.
Where you get a conversation with David who tells you that Max & Chloe live together in New York and even see a picture of them.
Thats 4 years after LiS. There is no magical something out to get Chloe. That price was paid with letting the storm run its course.
@@ogami7661 So they broke up? Guess we might find out. I know they continued it as a comic.
@@Rikunda13
The comic is not canon and more of a "what if" story based on the Chloe ending. What the status of Max & Chloe´s relation is in this game, we will see. I doubt they would break them up, that would piss off a large amount of the fanbase. There a bunch of reasons they could go with why they are temporarily not at the same location.
@@ogami7661 Except one of the streams about the game showed two choices. She WAS a friend or she WAS a girlfriend. Max only talks about her past tense.
9:45 - Smoking! It isn't JUST for revealing hidden laser traps...
I'm hoping they have a place at the start where you can select the major choices you chose in LiS1
The Bay ending always made more sense as being the clear stronger story ending to the game. So I’d say it’s Bay.
If Chloe is reduced to just a few texts, emails and dialogue choices at the beginning of the game, then I shall shift to a parallel world where this game does not exist!!! byeeeee
Soooo close to 100k omg
0:53 ...zers.
8:03 I feel the same when I watch Welonz' fridgeTM video and a current LP.
I'm sobbing and shaking, I've missed Max 😭
Welonz, you have two TH-cam notifications!
I think they'll do like they did in twd season 3 where you choose Clementine's past and choices . To make it relative to the future
So I found an article that they have confirmed both choices you made from the first game will respect both choices for this instalment.
Although I don't know how it will work, we'll have to find out.
Didn't gamers learn from Mass Effect (1, 2, and 3)? Player choice will rarely ever have proper consequences - it's just too demanding on dev time, ergo budget.
It feels like they don't want players thinking too much about S1's end, and that just giving them a Mass Effect 2 style 'So, tell me about... ' Q&A dialogue response will be enough.
I suppose they could actually include a scene with Chloe? Or a phone call or three. I don't think texts or an email chain will be quite enough if they actually want to give her a cameo in this.
Other than all of that, I'm just fine with a new [almost certainly much better written] Max story.
@@SabiJD I completely agree.
They are alive and well from that "other" sequel based on your choice. Or they might have had a falling out in this new story which would be absurd.
Another thing that's confirmed is there's a picture of Chloe that Max keeps?
It does leave loose ends and more to be desired.. despite deck 9 reassuring fans.
Here's hoping for a somewhat monumental story, all for the sake of nostalgia that sells it I guess.
I cant wait to watch you play this one omg
i have concerns, basially like with any other branching narrative that tries to tiptoe around the topic of your choice, rather than fully embracing one of the outcomes as canon. Especially because the implications are literally world changing.
But i'm still very hyped to have Max back! The music and photography, the artstyle and hopefully good writing are all very enticing
I am still curious on which ending is canon because I have a lot of questions especially with Chloe and her fate.
given the alt realities premise, could be both now
@@ofcrgry i can see that being the case
For those of us who grew up in the 80s, "this is not a test", "the emergency broadcast system is now in effect" meant only one thing: nuclear war. Not something I would have anticipated, and maybe this is going to be the sort of game where by episode 3, you can't even understand how it started. Game on.
oh hell yeah I didn't think about the huge unfolding story unpossibilities. and you know the dev team would definitely enjoy an immersive anti war narrative if they decided to
@@takemetoyonk LIS covering war? seems ambitious
that's a line from the first game, it plays over the PA when Max enters the diner during the storm in ep5
Why Chloe isn’t around? Well, life happens, right? And sometimes it’s strange🤣 But yeah, I’m definitely curious how they would explain that~
I mean...even under the best of circumstances, high school relationships aren't typically the most durable. And there's A LOT of potential baggage in that relationship when it comes to LIS that could push two people apart as easily as bring them together.
@@HiIeric117 absolutely agree👍🏻
could also just be keeping chloe for a later reveal
@@ofcrgryYeah like what they did with David, it was a shock, but his dialogue differed depending on the choices. I can definitely see the same thing happening for Chloe, she might even appear much sooner if anything.
@@McKnlght David doesn't die in either choice ending since he was in the storm bunker. He's the only character that could be used without any plot hole conflicts.
Except for Max. Every other character in the game could be alive or dead based on your choices. This would explain why David's dialogue is different in LiS2. It only makes sense that it would be different since LiS1 final choice endings were different.
26:22 Oh my god this cracked me up haha 🤣 David Madsen's whole spiel where he's like: "is this grass??" is so iconic 😂
I hope all these stories in the life is strange games connect in some way
To be told trut, I like that they still used LiS remastered graphics for this one, yet it got pastel filter that made it look like first LiS.
Is that actually Max's original voice actor? She sounds so... natural now?
Yes. That's her OG voice actress
Back with the first Life is Strange game came out Hannah Telle talked about how much confidence she lacked as a voice actor in the role of Max, which in some ways helped because Max wasn’t exactly a confident character herself. As the recording sessions went on however she grew into the role a little better and felt more confident as an actress.
To me this just sounds like a confident Max/Hannah, which makes more sense as she’s around 29 years old in the story of Double Exposure.
I did have a doubt, when Max shift realities she just appears there or she "takes" the body of her counterpart? Or there is just one Max? Because everyone appears to have a counterpart
Yes she takes the body of her other self and the body she left in the original timeline goes on autopilot. They explained that in Episode 4 of LiS after you see crippled Chloe.
Shouldn't have messed with the snowman
it's funny because the first thing when i saw her was.. hey that's grown up max!
But hey, i'm a man, so i honestly also barely noticed she changed hairstyle.. must be that xD
15:25 Vermont lies between New York State, New Hampshire, and Maine. All four North Eastern states border Canada. Montreal is a 100+ miles from the state of Vermont.
How can they leave it at "We were just friends" and "We were high school sweet hearts?" ahhhhh! I need more. lol. I Am all about "Eff the Bay, save the Bae" as people say. Chloe and Max... 4EVER. In my mind, the people that needed to live in the first game, saw the storm and left. The others, well, they saw the storm. Their fault for staying.
I kept having to remind myself you were not playing this, just watching! Looks very promising so far. It seemed like they weren't completely ruling out the rewind power returning at some point.
The correct answer to which ending is cannon is yes
imagine if chloe is DLC-gated
they would make fans pay the price
I see what you did there...
I've seen the spare Chloe ending and read all 4 comics and I've seen the sacrifice Chloe ending and it left me bruised so safe ta say I don't mind any path they give us like it is what it is in my honest opinion of course
Actually i got two things to look forward to now.
1. Playing the Game.
2. See Welonz play the Game
Really glad i found your Channel 😊 all about the game and having a good time and no facecam to distract 😊
They would literally have to create two separate games in one to appease everyone in the fanbase. Maybe that's the true meaning of "Double Exposure". But really though I would place my expectations low and would only expect a few little nuggets here and there about Chloe or Arcadia Bay.
I'm curious!
Honestly im much more excited by the Life is Strange spiritual successor being made by Dont Nod instead of this but i love Max as a character so im interested in seeing what they do with her. I get the feeling Max is going to move through a timeline where Chloe is still alive. I think this game and the Dont Nod game are coming out around the same time.
where is Warren
I'm really bet there are two different killers and finding one will be a "twist" when you think it's them in the other timeline, but isn't the killer.
The new Max seems like a blend of April Ryan, and Emily Kaldwin from that mission in Aramis Stilton's manor.
Amazing picture with chole
Oh I don't know how to feel... Part of me has wanted LiS to return to Max, but I worry I might regret that wish. Something about the way they reduced everything that happened in LiS1 to a character asking a couple of questions does not sit right with me. The idea that she ends up the same person in the same place regardless of which ending you chose feels very very narratively clumsy and unsatisfying. I'll keep an open mind, though. On a less substantial note, it will take my brain a lot of conscious effort to accept that that's the same Max because she looks and acts way too different lol.
I felt the final choice in S1 was so bad/dumb that I don't want or need any more info on it, or the consequences. I get if people had a less hostile/resentful experience they might care about cohesively depicted fallout, but I'd rather just move on... and try to forget about it.
New story and setting, and I'm just interested to see how Max has matured. Hannah has such a great voice, but Max's writing in S1 wasn't often great, and I'm far more confident in the writing quality these days (I adored True Colours).
Hi hello.
This is my first time here.
My first impressions: YOU SOUND LIKE BROOKE!
We also have to understand that if Chloe is maybe dead in cannon what about Kate?
For me it's gonna be gears of war this game and dragon age so excited for them all 🥰🥰
Max's rewind power was never explained nor did it need to be. It was a plot device use to move the story along. Bringing it back would only open up a can of plot holes the developer would have to explain.
Deck Nine had nothing to do with the original game. So any information they gathered would be second hand at best. Why complicate things more than need be. Simply eliminate it, which is what they did.
Can you disclose your computer configuration or where to see that.
CPU: i7-10700k
GPU: RTX 3080
@@Welonz 👍
Inteview :)
I love Max, so I don't care why decknine chose to bring her back as a character, I'm glad they did.
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Hmmm....yeah I don't think you can design a good narrative by ignoring the two endings of the first LiS ,and pretending than Max's life is the same.This is a problem this game will have.This game says "No matter what happened in the first game,her life has not really changed,she's in the same place now ,a teacher on a campus".It's hard to believe tbh.
I am very skeptical for obvious reasons (if only it was a new character instead of Max...but Square Enix wanted Max back for marketing reasons ).
I saw someone bring this up on X and I can't stop thinking about it: choosing between either ending in the first game would have RADICALLY changed Max as a person, so I don't know if trying to play the "both endings are canon" card would work well narratively. It feels more like a "we don't want to piss off the fans" move more than anything.
it can work but it would be tougher to pull off, more complicated timeline shenanigans than LIS 1
Bay people always say bay is canon, But we bae naver say bae is canon the dav let you choice you own canon and we leave it at that.
I haven't played these games but more welonz is good so...
Spoliers for LIS1 i guess if anyone is watching this without having played that one for some reason
One big thing for me is that LIS 1 was both serious and a loving parody of tennagers.
At no point in time the game is like "You go Chloe continue being a asshole and irresponsible", despite the game being very pro-Chloe in many ways she is punished for making wrong choices, if Max didnt have her powers Chloe would have been dead many times over from gunshots(Including accidentally self-inflicted), dog attacks, ran over by a train, falling from cliffs, etc. Chloe's character is also really self-aware to a good degree one quote that i aways remember is that she blames the world because otherwise she would have to take blame for her mistakes, wich is quite a insane teenager thing to say but i think its really well written in that regard.
David wich is a very conservative veteran police stereotype actually turns out to be a really responsible guy that saves you in the end, i would have a really hard time seing a game these days where the type of character David is having any kind of positive portrayal.
That is to say i hope the game doesnt go too much with message and playing "tropes" straight while failing to live up to the original's originality.
@ "David wich is a very conservative veteran police stereotype actually turns out to be a really responsible guy that saves you in the end, i would have a really hard time seing a game these days where the type of character David is having any kind of positive portrayal" At first I misunderstood this and thought it was another take on "PC wokeness" but I got what you meant. That kind of writing is empathy at its core because it takes a person wrapped in politcal history, doesn't ignore it, then treats them as who they are in the moment, while they get to comment on how they want to change going forward. I think the Life is Strange team can pull similar things off in this next game. I already feel vague excitement over something I can't quite imagine yet! A good omen
@@takemetoyonk Exactly, more and more i see midia focused on "Archetypes" rather than humanizing the character. David aways stood out to me not because he is some hero in shining cape but because he is a very hhuman, someone who is clearly flawed because of their own history of trauma that tries to do the right thing but goes the wrong way of it, BTS has even more character development for him trying to connect with Chloe but thats outside the scope of LIS1.
Its kinda funny because the first time i played LIS way back when i really disliked David, but as i grew up and replayed i interpreted 7him more as a flawed human being same as most characters in LIS (Besides Mark Jefferson who is another subversion of the character of the "nice teacher") than a "evil" person. Even Nathan Prescot who was absolutely a piece of shit in many ways got some humanizing.
If you played LiS True Colors, you'll know the developer handled that quite well. True Colors is honestly the best LiS so far as well. And that only came out like 2 years ago
@@CrazeeAdam I didnt mainly because i heard the ending was really bad but i already preordered this one so i am giving my hopes for these devs anyways
David literally hits Chloe in episode 1 and chloe implies it wasn't the first time he did it. Just because he has one heroic moment doesn't make David a good guy.
For the Bae ending, I'm thinking of why Chloe wouldn't be in Vermont with Max that will end up being a satisfying answer to Pricefield fans. Maybe they had a falling out and separated for a bit? Maybe Chloe felt a large amount of survivor's guilt and had to leave for some space?? Because while the Bay ending was more closed and definitive, Bae ends up with a lot more possibilities and I'm still wondering what route they'll take for this. I'm curious to see more.
P.S. I'm kind of bitter Chloe can be described as a high school sweetheart. Wiping out a whole town to save someone and only call them that is wild LOL Unless Max is still being deflective and not wanting to talk about her.
Also just high school relationships don't often last. No matter how strong the bond may be, on top of everything else that went on with them.
they just gotta execute well on the tougher story beats or else they end up like LoU2 to audiences
I agree, locking in the theory that if Chloe isn't in Vermont it's likely survivor's guilt that led to their separation to have some space
Assuming this game has romance options, I don't think it's going to be thrown out just for one ending so it sounds they broke up Max and Chloe off screen which sucks for people who chose bae. I hope to be proven wrong but so far it seems like Max is only there for sales. Otherwise it sounds a lot like True Colors. A murder mystery and the death of the character we're supposed to care about is announced in the trailer. Imo it would have been more impactful if we didn't know the character was going to die.
max and chloe breakup can work but they better execute it well
differentiating from True Colors might not be as important as recapturing the vibe of the 1st game
@@ofcrgry yeah I can see the breakup working considering the trauma and survivor guilt. But if it's gonna be like: yeah, we used to date, but it didn't work out, and she's never mentioned again, I'd rather it was just the Bay ending, lol
The game will have a different vibe i think with chloe being alive or dead
When i first play LiS as a teen like in 2016 i chose chloe as my cannon ending but now as an adult i prefer the other ending😅
@@DanteRU0312I played S1 as an adult and my very strong reaction to Bae v Bae was 'This storytelling is utter garbage and I resent the broken rules and contrived attempt at an Epic Emotional Moment™, so go die in a ditch, Arcadia Bay'...
I really enjoyed the more grounded character stuff in S1, despite the often very dodgy writing. But the killer arc and the way Max's powers are dealt with? That was frequently awful.
S1's end was one of the worst moments I've had in gaming, specifically because it's like I could feel the strings being pulled by the writers. The game ceased to exist, and all I could see or hear was a whiteboard concept and an attempt at A Big Meaningful Tragic Choice, even though it never earned it.
What made it worse is that it feels like there never was an intention to let you choose, because the cinematic after giving the middle finger to the writers (aka Bae) was so threadbare. The Bay ending's cinematic was beautiful, and clearly a lot of time and effort was put into it - unlike Bae.
As a result of all that, I'm very happy if this new entry mostly pretends S1's end was just a very bad dream.
same
Max is surprisingly stoic when finding her friend shot to death. I know she has "experience" in matters like this, but still...
could be numb? might have seen other similarly bad or worse realities
Stoic? She's sobbing.
is it just me or Max has a slight lisp?
"we were high school sweethearts" i pretty much genocided an entire town to run away with chloe price forever this statement does not encompass the reality of (MY version of) chloe & max's relationship
Dammit, they're instantly likeable
Interesting so far.
Honestly i kinda hope Max grew OUT of her toxic relationship with Chloe..
i think most LiS fans kinda gloss over how Max and Chloe were TERRIBLE friends for eachothers.. (but especially Chloe xD) the more i reflect back on the first game the more i realise Chloe was actually a TERRIBLE FRIEND, needy, clingy, immoral, hypocrite, impetuous, exploitative..
Yep she had a lot of trauma but hey.. most people have terrible drama in their lives..that doesn't justify being a complete asshole to everybody..
she really brought out the worst in Max xD
No physical appearance from Chloe if you saved her in LiS 1 (being relegated to just texts/journal entries) would be an extremely dumb move especially after they said both endings would be respected. Not saying Chloe should be in it from the very beginning but having her play an important and active in person role is a MUST. Same in the Bay ending, gotta have at least one character turn up.
fortunately they still have time to cook, maybe they are holding back a reveal
I'd love if Chloe shows up at the end of the first episode or so like "Max what's wrong with you hella where have you been the last six months girliepop" and then the rest of it is the duo solving the mystery and IDK having a romantic rekindling from Max getting scared of commitment or something.
Bay over Bae ending route of this is just Max staring into space or something OH or Kate showing up I want more Kate 😭
Max's eyes look souless
This is made all excitement to drop for me, 1st game being irrelevant, start with this one no problem means it’s at most gonna be couple of scenes where they bring it up and then it’s just another story but the character is just named Max, so basically it’s a deck nine LiS that’s not even really building on the previous game and just another LiS I would’ve skipped straight up if it wasn’t Max name drop
I mean True Colors was a very good game. Unsure if you skipped it too?? Like its arguably the best LiS game
@@CrazeeAdam it's really not, but being subjective matter, for some ppl maybe, I couldn't get past episode 1, but even if it was good that still doesn't change the fact that here they use previous game as marketing material and nothing more, at least judging from this interview, I'm gonna be glad if I'm wrong tho, but change this Max to some random girl and you probably lose nothing, because I doubt there's two majorly different stories depending on the last game ending
@@CrazeeAdam but AI:NI had an option to start with the 2nd game and ignore first one and that was basically a lie and the story was infinitely more enjoyable with context so there's precedent, but Deck Nine doesn't have my good faith as Uchikoshi
That's a pity, because they could have handled that very well in this new game. What if - like someone said in the comments - one timeline has Ending 1 from the first game and the other is Ending 2 ? That would allow them to continue the story (and even make it tragic if Safi died in the choosing Bae timeline).
@@tarukaja8 that's what I thought too, but I didn't get that form the way they talk about it, maybe they just chose not to reveal too much but that's probably not it
Did Nathan shoot her? Also, funny you need to shift the timelines to overcome fallen branches on the road. And what the writer said that you don't need to play the previous games… LMAO. Why is it Max then? Why not Susan? Or Jessica? This pisses me off so much because otherwise I'd be interested. But I don't think I need to see Max suffer again. Hard pass.
They were definitely "inspired" by Alan Wake 2 lamp switching realities mechanics
Rewind is much better and makes more sense
So as this. It's an evolution to it and will get a better grasp once we progress the story. Better yet, the rewind was just as convoluted with its own sets of hidden powers
@terrellthaddies7867 But the evaluation of her power would be the ability to freely see and shift between the past and present without a photo.
I don't understand the point of this game. Wasn't the whole lesson of the first one that you shouldn't use your power to save anyone?..
it will flop
So with LiS I find myself kind of feeling the opposite of Dragon Age with the more info we're getting about both. I went from feeling pretty worried to now pretty confident and excited for DA and the sort of opposite trajectory with LiS.
I'm someone who did pick the Bay over Bae even though I'm a diehard PriceField shipper, but that was because of how much I did grow to care and love the other characters in the town (among other reasons). So the fact that, so far, this game seems to have almost nothing from the original other than Max herself is pretty disappointing, and I'm someone who would have been fine with never seeing Chloe again. So I can imagine the majority of people that really want a continuation of a Pricefield relationship will feel even more disappointed than me.
You also made some good observations with how much the devs seem to be focusing on the scifi questions rather than the characters which is pretty worrying.
Right now I'm lowering my expectations so that I don't get burned like I did with AI: The Somnium Files Nirvana Initiative, which was a fine game, but not the "sequel story" that I wanted. I'll still play it but it probably wont be the game I've always kind of wanted or imagined to be as a followup to LiS 1. Would love to be wrong though.
Cash grab game based on nostalgia. They should've left LiS1 alone, but DeckNine can't write an original story to save their lives.
The original LiS was supposed to be 12 episodes, this was reduced to 8 fairly quickly, which required many story arcs to be restricted. This was happening real time so that a preview of a next game, where Nathan said his dad was bringing the storm had to be disavowed. Obviously this all changed, to end up with what we got, which is amazing.
Before the Storm, at the time, was widely derided before release. The first episode had people too busy crying to forget their dismissal. The general consensus was that this was much better than expected. The second episode blew it all away, and caused almost as much cosplay as the original. The third episode didn't live up, and more was intended, but such is life, there are limitations.
Then you had Farewell.
cAsH gRaB 😢
If Deck Nine is working on any other Life is Strange game, it should be Before the Storm 2. Three years of unexplained events, and massive drama and heartbreak. I am a bit skeptical of a new game not being an explicitly Max & Chloe game, but this is looking good, and I will reserve judgement. Expectations are higher than with BtS though.
Jefferson killed Rachel in the dark room and Deck9 murdered PriceField by throwing it into an UnReal engineered uncanny valley of retcon greed. Choices really don’t matter folks. Not when you can put petting a cat behind a 30$ paywall. Deck9 has easily become, for a LOT of fans, the new Life is Strange super villain. 😂
Well said 😂
I don't even blame Deck Nine, not totally. I'm blaming Square Enix 1000% on the horrid pricing. I wouldn't even be surprised if Square Enix made the executive decision to bring back Max to squeeze extra money out of fans and Deck Nine is just doing their best with what they were given.
Don't get me wrong, not a huge fan of their work in BtS or TC. They've never been as good as Dontnod imo and I'm not sure how well they're gonna pull this new game off. But I also don't think we can pin this whole situation on the developers
One character that definetely wont be missed is Warren
lmao its funny how people are still hating on warren like he didn‘t saved max 3 times
victoria? jeff?
I thought what they were talking about with Moses and her "growing closer" to him and him helping with scientific reasons behind the powers sounded a lot like Warren 2.0
disagree, i liked Warren
You question everything instead of watching the video
the title says “Reaction & Thoughts” if u ain’t wanna hear that then go watch the original video
If you take everything at face value without asking any questions. You only have yourself to blame if you're deceived.
If Chloe is not in this, I already have mixed feelings about the game...
For me personally, both Chloe and Rachel set the bar so high, that Safi has really big shoes to fill to make me even remotely care for her. But it's always nice to see Max again.
Thank you Welonz for taking your time and sharing your reactions and thoughts with us.
I'm already looking forward watching you play the new game. 👍
Good...game for introverts!