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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ค. 2024
- This retrospective is a compilation of my prior 3 Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles videos. If you have seen the 3 individual parts, there shouldn't be anything new here. I only made minor changes. Even less major to the ones I made to the Kingdom Hearts compilation.
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0:00:00 Part 1 Intro/History
0:18:47 Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (GCN)
1:22:31 Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (Remaster)
1:29:30 Part 2 Intro
1:36:57 Ring of Fates Story
2:03:30 Echoes of Time Story
2:21:35 DS Gameplay
2:42:34 My Life as a [Allignment Here]
3:00:42 Part 3 Intro
3:09:49 Crystal Bearers
4:28:15 Conclusion
4:34:20 FF16 Spoiler Section I forgot to Restamp
4:34:54 Conclusion - เกม
Thanks for watching everyone! This has been a long time in the making. Like I said in the individual parts that make up this video, I initially planned on just making 1 turbo sized video, and after breaking them into chunks I always intended to do one of these supercuts of the 3. And y'all can't call me a sellout because roughly 50% of my viewers are only here because of my KH supercut. I was a sellout before y'all knew me. In all seirousness, I'm very happy with how this came out. FFCC may have it's problems here and there, especially with accessibility, but I figured if anyone's gonna make a video like this about it, it'll probably be me.
For actual changes here, the main thing is just some audio rebalancing and glitches I fixed in parts 2&3. My project file for part 1 was corrupted so I couldn't do much there.
1:54:48 I added an email I received from an FFCC fan about something that confused me. Feel free to pause and read their explanation for where I was confused.
4:34:20 This spot has minor FF16 spoilers and I forgot to change the time I put on screen for the compilation. It would take 13-20 hours to rerender & and upload, which lets be real, is a little long for something the chapters fix. If you have not touched FF16 or know nothing about it, I'd rec skipping this part I made into a chapter. However, it is something you'd know within the first 3-5 hours of the 60+ hour game, so use your own discression.
A random 4 hour video by an impassioned person I've never heard of about a game series I forgot to play. Thank you algorithm, and thank you NovaZone
OMG crystal chronicles on the GameCube is a nostalgic experience for me, game came to me on a low point in my life and definitely filled a void
The final boss for this game is so absolute peak in every aspect. The music is one of the best I've ever heard
Crystal Chronicles Remaster not being couch co op will forever not be forgivable
15000% unforgivable. my friends and I were so excited, and it was the biggest letdown
Man I just loved playing Echoes of time back when i was still growing up. Always went with 4 Selkies because double jump was just insanely useful. Skipping certain puzzles was suddenly very easy.
I really enjoyed watching this video as a Crystal Chronicles lover! However, I believe the part about single-player gameplay forgot to mention something somewhat important- or at least I missed it if it did- that I'd like to put here for any future solo CC players: the Moogle that carries your chalice is actually REALLY important! Mog will cast spells when he's not holding the chalice, and you can combine with him to get higher-level spells like Gravity without needing to fuse magicite. Some sources (including the official guidebook) say that the color you paint Mog will change the spells he uses, but it can be a little finnicky- theoretically, painting him all blue will cause him to only use Blizzard, but I've seen cases where I've covered every inch of his fur in blue paint and he still cast one of the other elements randomly during a dungeon. His casting reticle will automatically align with yours. Managing Mog correctly makes the single-player experience MUCH smoother. It's still inferior to multiplayer, but Mog has a lot of little quirks that make him feel like a character all his own IMO. Remember to cut his fur when you go into the desert!
I think I spent 1 sentence mentioning it, but since I didn't have footage, I decided not to dwell on it. Especially because I have way more experience in 2/3P mode.
it's worth mentioning that he has a cooldown on spells. when you get him to cast a spell you'll have to wait a bit/hit some enemies and wait for him to say a line that's not about being tired of carrying the chalice. He will also flash iirc
I've gotta be honest man: this is probably the most impressed I've been with a project of yours. Your KH one may have been longer, but the amount of love, research, and analysis in this one makes it far more impressive to me, especially when I know how much work you've put in behind the scenes. I've loved watching you come more and more into your own as a creative and I'm so excited to see where you go from here.
I mean haha armless crystal chronicles moogles funnee
Lol literally just finished watching all three videos back to back to find this video uplaoded 20 mins ago
Now you can send people 1 link they'll never open instead of 3 links! So convenient!
1:23 gosh seeing this really hit me with nostalgia to staying up late on a video essay on the story behind that game, gosh it was so rough
Playing the GameCube Crystal Chronicles was such a blast with my friends. I saved up a lot of money to get enough GBAs and link cables to get 4 players going. It taught me that failing as a team is a lot more fun than succeeding alone.
As someone who bought the first crystal chronicles, but didn't have a gba, I tried to play it single player... I gave up after the 2nd year started. It was nice to see the rest of the game in a video. I doubt I will ever try to pick it up again but even with the half assed attempt nearly a decade ago it was a good memory.
It’s doable solo it just fucking sucks and you have to powergame the whole time, go back to levels to get materials and build the best possible weapon and gear you can have at that point. It still sucks though don’t recommend. Always keep a cura crystal or 2 on you.
That was my problem with Crystal Chronicles as well, actual enjoyment of the game was hard locked behind having three things:
GameBoy Advances
Gamecube Link Cables for said GBAs
Friends
I was never very good at that last one...
@@shadowtheimpurecould have really benefited from a modern re-release with online co-op if Square Enix hadn’t absolutely flubbed it up
i do love that you touch upon the fact that trying to make the original work on a single TV screen would be incredibly difficult or impossible because trying to change commands or do anything in the menus would take up to much screen space or require it to pause for everyone, wrecking the pace. I have seen absolutely no one else share that opinion
I'll never forget the memories of me and 3 buddies getting a full squad to play Crystal Chronicles together, following the Nintendo Power guide that I still have and sunk so many hours into.
I still hope to this day to get a group to play together (that isnt just randos on netplay). It's such a shame that the multiplayer on the remake couldnt be as tidy as the original. Given that they touched "Morning Sky" as well, I have to give a big round of applause to the madmen working on Dolphin being able to help preserve as much of the experience as is *currently* possible.
ys mentioned! now there's a criminally under-discussed franchise, even though it's still alive.
i never played all the other games, but crystal chronicles itself holds a soft spot in my heart, i played so many hours of it back in high school. i remember back in the day my kid-brain made a weird visual connection between the final boss of crystal chronicles and kingdom hearts chain of memories because they've got a very similar silhouette (that being, "shaped kinda like an N64 controller")
Tbh, I've wanted to do an Ys video for a while now. I played 1&2 (PC Engine and Chronicles), OiF, Ys IV DoY, 6, & 7 last year. I had an idea for making an "every version of Ys 1&2" type video similar to one I made about Castlevania 1/Akumajo Dracula. It'll take some work though because, quite honestly, getting the PC 98 emulator to play and record the small clip of the intro was a real bitch and a half.😅
I ended up doing one recording of the audio while the video was glitched out, another of the video while muted, and then lined them up . 🙃 It was worth it though to me. I'm very happy with how this whole project came out.
@@NovaZoneTV oh jeez, i can imagine trying to emulate and record the PC-98 is a pain, i have a tough enough time trying to work just with DOS games on occasion (tomb raider, my nemesis...). i've only played the easily-commercially-available versions of the ys games myself, so not the originals of 1-4 but their assorted remakes, a couple years ago back when 9 came out, so it would be fun to see how some of the originals compare to the remade versions. i think 8 and oath in felghana hold the fan-favorite spots, very justifiably imo, though i had a pretty good time with all of them, it's a blast getting to see how experimental jrpgs can be (not unlike crystal chronicles).
Cool to see a video by someone passionate about the series who also understands the context with Kawazu and the Wonderswan.
I always describe Crystal Chronicles as a beautiful combination of Kawazu sensibility, on a Secret of Mana framework, with Final Fantasy IX flavor and some rogue like dungeon crawling elements.
I dont even like rpgs. yet here I am, watching, liking, and commenting on this video.
I loved playing through 4 player Chrystal chronicals on the gamecube in college.
omg, thank you for having a great narration voice, I need more videos like this!
My favorite moment in Crystal Bearers was breaking the pots in the Library(?) and being in massive debt to the point where an NPC spawned and started showering the whole area with money. I don't remember much from that game but that moment will always stay with me
I had only ever played FFCC in single player so that lonely, doomed sense you talked about was actually my favorite thing about it.
Alright you got me I'll see this through to the end over the next week or so
Another great video to play in the background at work! Or to fall asleep to 🙌🙌🙌
Rùng mình
God I loved couch co op with my friends through CC onthe Gamecube, that was before the dark days, good times
Played this with 3 close friends growing up. We ran this game so many times. It was sooooo awesome. So sad that they never really did this game justice.
Recently watched all your FFCC videos. Just hope more are aware of this subseries
Chucking coco on screen when you said taiwan was incredibly unnecessary.
You know how hard it is to hold in my laughter at 2am?
Don't laugh. Loudly o7
I really appreciate this in-depth look at a game that could have been great but was completely strangled by the incredibly constraining, convoluded way its multiplayer nide was implemented.
I'll also giggle Ievery time I hear TITS village, I cant help it.
It’s finally here!
Hello! i think you should cover "Magical Starsign" on this series. hardly see any content on it on TH-cam and i think it fits this format really well
God i loved every crystal chronicles! I remember when the DS version came out and I put more hours into that than every pokemon i owned on the DS combined!
For me, the remaster was everything I wanted. But I had experienced the drawbacks to multiplayer in 5-6 groups over the years. Getting link cords, GBAs, certain types of people expecting to play for one hour and others for eight. Durdling around in towns for 20 minutes every time anyone needs something. Always having to be the one to carry the chalice... I have fond memories of playing with neighborhood kids for 10 hours straight when I was 13 or so, but modern remaster-style single dungeon matchmaking with the FFCC discord ended up being better as an adult.
Honestly glad to see someone with a different opinion on the remaster. It didn't work for me since I wanted it as a way to replay with old friends or introduce it to new friends, but I guess it does work if you want the kind of experience you got.
Some more things about the Remaster additions that weren't mention that I feel like are worth bringing up.
-The storage moogle allows someone to trade items and money between characters when playing single player. they can also trade weapons, armor and accessories, which is something you couldn't do in the original. This allows you to get end game equipment for freshly made characters in the late game when they can't survive third cycle dungeons. This does allow you to pass Ultima Weapon around to characters of the same race. If you actually deleted the alchemist's child character 3 times to get 4 copies of the scroll (an endeavor that takes 62 in game years btw) you can make one for each race and swap them around freely. Force Ring luckily only would need to be made once.
-New weapons, armor and accessories from the Hard mode dungeons help add a reason to actually try out the hard mode dungeons and keep playing past the credits. Shoutouts to the Yuke specific accessory that essentially adds a whopping *75* points of magic. Combine that with their new ultimate weapons that cast a tier 3 spell as the focus attack and you become an absolute menace, especially in multiplayer when you can have allies distract the enemies for the incredibly long cast time.
-New artifact rings for Gravity, Holy and Meteor. This allows a single person to cast them in multiplayer and save so many command slots in single player. I actually end up not knowing what to put in a few slots in post game and don't have to constantly worry about fusing the spell rings again at the start of every dungeon. unfortunately these are exclusive artifacts from hard mode dungeons
-Hard mode dungeons actually feature rearranged or remixed versions of the dungeon themes which is an incredibly nice touch.
-On the topic of hard mode dungeons, they do have a challenge rating so some are meant to be done immediatly and others are meant to be done after you get post game gear. They don't follow the same progression as the main story, for example Goblin Party (hard mode of Goblin Wall) will absolutely fuck you up.
1:27:22 so your solo moogle cast spells when he puts down the chalice
I have the original and the remaster. Loved this game when I was in high school. And I remember just never being able to find anybody that had a game cube link cable so we could play this game with multiplayer. It’s still a dream for me today is to have a four player game of this go through the whole thing. One day I hope
I played FF:CC when it launched. I had more than one GBA (one regular, and one SP), and friends with their own GBAs. I bought the link cables, and so I actually played on a GameCube, with GBAs, with 4 people. I consider the Caravan from Townia to be an important, and formative, experience.
I do not understand why anyone says the remake "messed up" the co-op. I played the remake with most of the same people who formed my OG caravan, and we all liked it a lot better. I'm genuinely confused that no one else seems to appreciate the huge upgrade the remake introduced.
it usually stems form people wanting the exact same experience without realizing how incredibly difficult to impossible it would be, plus their nostalgia glossing over how actually bad the original experience was when you're not in the middle of the dungeon crawling. Like, acting like the original is an 8/10 game and the remaster is a 2/10 jsut baffles me
Never got to play most of the Crystal Chronicle series, but I have some fond memories after renting Crystal Bearer for a few weeks from Netflix. It's a neat little game that used the story as a vehicle to get you to the next playground and I would have loved a sequel that gives you a bit more to do combat wise. I thought it would have been cool to pick up lesser versions of other Bearers' powers and mix them with the telekinesis ability. Or hold on to certain weapons or items that are used in neat ways with those powers.
Anyways, this was a great retrospective that has inspired me to try and hunt some of these games down.
Anyone remember Crystal defenders?
oh i wanna mention something about stats. they basically go in 5s so an increase in any stat of like going from 20 to 24 would not do anything where going from 24 to 25 would make you do more/take less damage. so if it feels like sometimes you're not any stronger after an artifact or stat boost it's most likely cause you didn't hit the next multiple of 5
The music of this game has stuck with me.
And this is playable with people online on dolphin now? Sounds like I need to get the gang together!
I have nostalgia of renting this game at blockbuster a few times wanting to play it.. but never got past the mines, as we didnt have the obscure requirements for my brothers to play
As somebody who almost never has friends to play with, the issues with multiplayer did not hurt me nearly as much as it did to everybody else. But I'd be a liar if I said I didn't feel its sting with how severely limiting it was to play online, even it was to simply help players get further into their games and collect artifacts to boost my stats without progressing too far into my own adventure. Because when the multiplayer's issues reared its ugly little head, it felt like I was getting blasted by a Malboro's Bad Breath attack at point blank range.
At least the single-player mode is still every bit the delight I loved the original for. But half of the game being amazing is still *half the game*, and it's not the half that made Crystal Chronicles such a well-beloved classic.
please what is the intro music, i adore the piano
The remaster version would do so well on Steam. I can only wish.
I used to love Crystal Bearers on my Wii. A good story, solid gameplay, and fun characters.
This video showed a few ffcc characters I also have in dffoo, and now I'm starting this video sad about dffoo...
But I'm a huge fan of crystal chronicles, of the game, of the music, of the gameplay! So much so that I got a friend to lend me their old gameboy advance sp and gamecube link cable, so if I have friends over, I have two of each so we can play on the wii (I sadly never owned a gamecube).
The musician also worked on some zone music in final fantasy 11, specifically the Bastok region. I love them, the music is so timeless! So much so that I felt like the anime for Dungeon Meshi reminded me of FFCC. XD
Edit:
I'm a bit disappointed that you just excluded final fantasy 11/14 from the high fantasy to science fantasy meter at 3:10:35
Here, this is my take on where these mmorpg titles fall, since I understand a lot of people don't want to play the multiplayer games. Or don't have time since the story of FFXI is several hundred hours long.
I would say FFXI rests between FF3 and FFIV, as Tanaka Hiromichi stated, heavily inspired by FF3.
Also, I would say FFXIV falls closer to FFVII and FFVIII.
There we go, for anyone curious. ^^
Lol, so funny thing with the MMOs there.
So 11, it's just that I nor anyone in my friend circle has really played it. But with 14, I asked a few friends, and we came to a conclusion that 14 is so all-encompassing at this point that it'd be at the entire spectrum.
(Also, I made that for a dumb Twitter post when playing Stranger of Paradise. Wasn't something I spent a lot of time one)
@@NovaZoneTV Understandable, it is daunting, and the sub spooks a lot of people haha.
I will say, ff14 is more of an amusement park final fantasy, if just draws in from all the games (though most of the models are pretty much from FFXI lol). So the fantasy spectrum being all over, makes sense XD
If you for whatever reason have FFXI questions about retail that isn't about endgame, feel free to ask.
I've played since NA launch (we were sneaky norwegian kids and used a fake canadian address to play on it asap lol), and I love rambling about it.
I mostly just wanted to add a few cents about the fantasy level.^^ Thanks so much for this hefty FFCC video. I will deffo have to re-visit the game now.
YOU FORGET ABOUT CLONE HERO (actually bought an old rockband guitar off ebay when i found it)
I love Crystal Chronicles. I rarely got to play with others, but I've definitely sunk more than 100 hours on the singleplayer. I printed a 100+ page guide from Gamefaqs and made spreadsheets to keep track of which character had/needed which artifact.
It's such a shame the remaster fumbled the multiplayer. I never played the other CC games but I hope they someday get batter remasters/sequels.
i think there's a possibilty you missed when trying to reconcile the crystal bearers lore with that of the rest of the series. in crystal bearers, the myth states that there were 4 crystals at the beginning of humankind, functioning as an origin story. in the rest of the series, the lore states that there was originally a single crystal, that broke off into many more after the calamitous events. crucially however, the four tribes existed long before the events of any of the games, and we never get any direct information to contradict the origin myth, by virtue of never going back in time to see the advent of people in any of the games. this instead opens up two potential questions of "what happened between the time of 4 great crystals and a single great crystal?", or "what were the three other crystals doing while the 4th took center stage in the rest of the game?"
back in high school i wanted a remake of this for the 3DS sso bad. i felt that both screens could be used to emulate how the original felt perfectly with top screen being what would be on your TV and the bottom screen could handle the radar.
I'm actually one of the few people who loved the remaster because i understood that you'd have to completely redesign how the game worked on a fundamental level just to make this work for a single screen in the case of couch coop that everyone was demanding.
My two siblings and I played the hell out of this game, it was a lot of fun with 3 players. My brother got bored and stopped playing at some point, he likes more action oriented games typically. Our mom even played with us when she could since brother dropped out. We never knew anyone with a fourth Gameboy or cable but we played a lot of 2-3 players 😁
I was only missing like four artifacts last I remember. Could not get the Life ring to save my, well, life.
10/10
13:40 while interesting again everyone just forgets XI exists
if you had 5 game cubes,5 tvs, and the game boy player, you can do a work around where you dont need the gba. i did that with my friends after we had a nightmare experience when 1 gba shut down in middle of the marlboro boss fight. i still have ptsd from that but it was amazing. it was like 2 am at my friend's place and we ended up taking a trip to the store to restock on snacks while recharging. this trick worked with 4 swords as well
I think I saw an article about that one time.
No way am I ever going to be in a situation where I'll have 5 gamecubes and 5 tvs next to me, but if y'all had fun with it, then more power to you!
@@NovaZoneTV i was lucky and had a bunch of friends from our halo lan party game days and we did the the crazy set up. 16 tvs(4 in living room, 4 in dining room, and 2 bed rooms 4 each) it sounds crazy but if you had the people its a experience every gamer would love.
How does that workaround even work??
@@SchrollShepard the gameboy player simulates a ds, so you need 4 if you have 4 players
@@Assyrianking Ok, but how do you play the game with t different consoles? None of you would be on the same game, right?
Final Fantasy became just another fantasy.
My first final fantasy, which led me to play X-2 immediately after lol
X-2 was also one of the first few I played. Before the year ends, I wanna finally play X-1 and replay X-2.
@@NovaZoneTV dude, good luck 😂 I tried doing a 100% run with a guide and there’s a story boss that’s almost impossible to beat towards the end. Probably the hardest in the entire FF series, no joke haha X-2 I’m referring to btw
i played crystal chronicles for the first time on og hardware with friends somewhat recently
and whilst it was really cool and i liked it a lot, truly the hardest part is getting other people to stick around for the full game and organising that and everyone being in the mood for it, we beat 5 or 6 other games between sessions and we're still not done
we named our charicters after the beatles but since there were only 3 of us we pretended as if the whole quest was to find a fourth purely because its a slower paced game and how slowly the plot plays out wasnt gripping their attention (not a bad thing but it makes it harder to get into for people who arent too familiar with ff like they are)
although now i know more about the rest of the series, maybe id have an easier time getting them though the other games first though
I forgot if I ever said in the video, but Echoes of Time and Ring of Fates are sizeably shorter. Of course, your playtime of FFCC1 is variable since you can beat it mostly when you want, but leisure runs for each, I found EoT to be a solid 2-4 hours shorter. Bryce and I also did a ton of those little side missions and talked to every NPC, so our run was about as long as possible for EoT.
I Haven't watched the full video yet, so I'm hoping future me will be vindicated in 5 hours time - however my biggest gripe with the re-release on the Switch was that it ruined the magic of the Village/Caravan by letting anyone join in on your dungeon crawl rather than set characters from your Caravan. You didn't grow and journey with a group, you could potentially have 4 separate villages/worlds to save.
It would be great if it had two modes - one where you had a single instnace of a save file that the same player hosted and people could join that world as the character they made in that world and a mode where you could find random matches but you'd be forced to play as one of the host Caravan's characters. (think of it like a long DnD campaign vs just joining a one shot instance) You'd have to get some kind of reward for playing the latter mode (i.e. if you were running just Conall Curach for the Life Ring and when you got it on some random's character it could potentially pass it back to your in game Caravan)
I need an official Sakura Wars English release😭
I was so excited for Crystal Chronicals as a kid! I remember going to my cousin's house who had Playstation (my family only bought Nintendo consoles because they were always cheaper) and he would show me cool things from Final Fantasy VII (like Knights of the Round Table) and even the beginning scene of Final Fantasy VIII. My main games were always Zelda and Smash Brothers, so I was SO hyped that an RPG, especially one as prolific as a Final Fantasy, was coming to Nintendo. After I got the game as a birthday present... I decided I hated it and it wasn't a true Final Fantasy. Eventually, this sentiment washed away and it kind of grew on me somewhat. When I got older, sometimes I would reminisce back on it and remember some of the banger soundtrack or the cool little lore they would tell before a dungeon!
I bought the updated version of the Switch and had a lot of fun. The nostalgia was REAL! Looking back with a new state of mind, I think they were on the precipice of a very cool and unique idea! This game mostly suffered from being inaccessible (I didn't have a GBA back then, and the friends that I had weren't going to buy a cable for this single game) and it was slightly too basic... Even when I played (by myself) as a Yuke, I found myself doing the SAME exact attack pattern for EVERY single enemy: bait an attack, back up, cast - rinse and repeat until dead. I have played with my brother and sister-in-law and it was slightly more fun, but still too basic.
Overall... it's hard for me to love this game but equally hard to hate it. There was a lot of missed potential. I was really hoping that when they re-released it, they would make more quality of life changes to better adapt it to the current era. Needless to say, I was slightly disappointed.
Regardless, I loved your video! Thanks and keep up the good work!
I'd also like to note that at 1:32:30 you said, "Not a single RPG came close to this status in English speaking territory...."
I have to argue with you there. Tales of Symphonia was BELOVED on the Gamecube. Even to this day, it is regarded as one of the strongest entries in the "Tales of..." franchise. Of course, it was later released on different consoles, but that was one of the first solid JRPG's to really grace Nintendo since the Golden Era of the SNES JRPG's. Baiten Kaitos also existed... but it's kind of hard to compare. It flew under the radar as an obscure title where Tales of Symphonia really found enough of an audience that a sequel was encouraged.
shouts out to Clone Hero for keeping guitar hero alive
What's that theme at the intro? I swear I've heard it somewhere before.
Memory of Lightwaves. The title screen music from Final Fantasy X-2.
@@NovaZoneTV Thanks, also great video dude.
This world is fascinating enough for me to want a mainline FF game set in this world.
However, knowing Square Enix, this will never happen.
I doubt it, but FFXII was based in a spin-off's world. So it's not impossible.
What's the song at the beginning of the video?
I’m not carrying the bucket
Rip to your (in-game) family
@@NovaZoneTV I hate game design that makes it so one person playing doesn’t actually get to play and just has to watch
god i love the original so much i treid running a long term multi-player session over Dolphin net play. i played the remake on bluestacks just so i could use a GC controller 😂
So i am someone who will adamantly defend the Remaster. There was no way easy way for them to make this game work on modern consoles outside of making everyone download a companion app/game on their phone and use those as the controllers much like the GBAs on the original. The issue there ends up stemming from having to develop an app that would work consistently on like every possible phone type which is a nightmare. Aside from that, there's not really anything they could do.
One of the main issues of having the multiplayer function like the OG is that it's gonna end up with one person being the host/owner of the console that the save is on. If you're not able to get the full group together anyone who couldn't make it might end up falling behind in terms of artifacts and gear and then you have to spend time catching them up. I know that the solution to this is just for no one to play on that save unless you can get everyone together but that can end up with you and your friends almost never getting around to playing it. I understand people being disappointed with the change in the multiplayer system overall but there really wasn't a right answer here.
Another aspect that I see people fixate on a lot is the game not having you all move around on the over-world together. A lot of people say that the way it should have been does is that you all pick your characters and then join together in a lobby and you'd have the lead control as you go along the overworld. The main problem with this is the random encounters. Since a lot of these are sequenced events that progress side-quests, you run into a big issue here. Let's say someone isn't on the final step of the Black Knight side-quest and the leader is. If the final cut-scene happens where he gets killed, what happens to the players who haven't made it that far in the side-quest? does it skip to the end of the quest for them, completely ruining it for them, or does it not count for them, therefore not affecting their progression or memory count? If it's the latter, it means that only the party lead benefits from such scenes happening and you might need to run around just to get stuff to spawn to put everyone on the same page, which might end up making the problem worse. Maybe you only have the encounters count for the part lead and that's it. in that case, you end up having everyone else in the party being forced to watch the cut-scenes they don't benefit from in any way, which could drastically de-sync memory counts and could affect the final boss. Imagine getting to the final boss and 3/4 the party have a memory count of less than 10 lmao.
The reason for only party lead recieving Myrhh is actually an obvious one. You'd be able to do a lot of sequencing breaking if you could join someone else's party and get a drop from Mount Kilanda or Rebena Te Ra on the first year, for example. While these are extreme edge cases, you have to account for these otherwise you'll end up with situations where the players might be soft-locked.
In wanting to remaster this game, they were put in an incredibly "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. I'm not gonna act like this was the *best* situation but it definitely is one of the better ones. I'm not gonna try and act like this game was perfect or anything, but acting like this game is a 3/10 or an absolute trash fire is fucking pathetic.
i still got mine
What is the name of the first song playing over the title select screen for crystal chronicles at the very beginning of the video?
It's the title theme from FFX-2
Fuck crystal barers. I focused on range for my primary build for it to be the only stat to be useless at the end
1:27:03 I managed to defeat the original Crystal Chronicles game in Single player as a Yuke.
Honestly I really liked Crystal Bearers...
panzer dragoon orta from xbox is my lost game
I remember a friend setting up FF:CC back when I was about 10 or so however I didnt really enjoy using the GBA as a controller and carrying and moving the chalice felt like a chore that just slowed down the game and I also didnt like the reticle system for spells AND charge skills...i think it would have been better if it was limited to spells. I kinda just noped out along with my other friend that really wasnt getting it either after maybe the fourth dungeon. It is definitely a love it or hate it kinda series.
I swear to god if they ever add controller support to the IOS version I’ll disappear forever.
i loved Crystal Chronicles i could never beat it... i loved the world so it took for ever for me to figure out you could beat it the story was kinda weird and i was never that smart ...
then i had no friends so that made it harder...
i did get one firend to play the game with me
using bits and pieces of what i knew i lead thru the game but i could never trigger the right events to get the story to do anything
im sure i sounded crazy getting a golden element in the desert some con man in a crazy out fit
i only got as far as the final area by my self even though i had a souped up character the enemies did too much damage the puzzles where too hard for just one person
Wait, is Lunar not pronounced loon-AR in regards to the game series?
I think it's pronounced like the actual English word, but anytime I read the word (for example, off of a video script) I always say it with a hard emphasis on the "AR". I never do this in casual conversation.
English is my only fluent language.
@NovaZoneTV I also pronounce it with the AR emphasized but only for the game(and the silver star in it). When I say the word in reference to things involving...moon stuff, I say it the normal way that normal people say lunar lol.
anyone got crystal chronicles for switch? i forget if its local or online multiplayer
It does not have local multiplayer and the online has some very major issues. I talk about it near the end of the Crystal Chronicles 1 portion of this video. I have now added a chapter for just when I discuss the remaster in case you're trying to just quickly learn if I think it's worth a purchase. It's not a very long portion of the video.
@@NovaZoneTV I thought I remembered that lol you mean the whole point of the game haha.
@@NovaZoneTV I had the original when peeps couch coop'd I also grabbed the remaster just to have it. But what a shame they didn't add a multiplayer component feels like they didnt wanna really remaster it.
Clone hero 😏
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Explanation on this for anyone going through comments: the room i record my audio/most games in is basically an oversized closet. The air conditioning is not the best in there. I had to keep the door open for Texas heat reasons, and my cat kept following me.
It's literally been remastered 💀
No it hasn't the "Remaster" entirely fails to capture what made the original such a special experience and butchers it. It loses the games original spirit which was a big part of the experience.
And yet the original is 10 times better
I didn’t have a GBA, that’s the only Pokémon I skipped and I’ll continue to talk shit about it to this day. “Natures” do not make pokemon fun, hahaha hell pokemon doesnt make pokemon fun.
This might sound sad but Japan has in recent years kind of made me not like RPG's. If it wasn't for Falcom and their Heroes games I probably wouldn't have played another RPG after FF12. I was that disappointed with the series by that point. On the other hand where most Japanese and Western games have failed to deliver I find the Chinese market standing strong and that certainly pulled me back in hard.
oh gods. I was so hurt by the remaster. I can't believe how bad it sucked. My boyfriend had the game, a GBA, and a cable and bought 4 more. I bought a GBA to join in, and we found 2 friends who also had GBAs and we did the whole game 4 player. It was so fun. We were so looking forward to recreating the magic, and made the mistake of pre-ordering the remaster. What a waste of time. Having to run each dungeon 4 times for mail was just the fucking worst.
They had one job with the remake
Don’t f up the multiplayer
What did they do they f’ed up the multiplayer
It sucks that almost everything else about the remake is good. The graphics pop better, the UI is clean, costumes that reference latter FFCC games, voice acting that ranges between good and enjoyably cheesy. But the unquestionably most important thing was worse, making it an inferior way to play the game.
@@NovaZoneTV yea literally ever other change was ether cool or an amazing edition that doesn’t involve multiplayer
Funnily enough Nintendo lasted only 3 console lines before going back to cartridges. Meanwhile, Sony comes out with Ultra Blu-Ray discs for PS5. Look on the back of any PS5 game case. It will say "Ultra Blu-Ray".
The Crystal Chronicles remake had so much potential... disappointing af
The Remaster was such a fucking let-down. :(
Bro your video is almost 5 hours long. I wouldn't mind watching it but no go bro. >:U
That said, I loved FF Crystal Chronicles enough to play it from start to finish as 2 different races and then picked up the Switch remaster and played it once more as a third race with 3 other players.
I really want them to make more games like this but SE isn't looking so hot anymore. They're abandoning projects to protect their bottom line, which means games like this may never come out again. [as sad as I am to say that]
To be fair this is a spliced and edited version of three separate 1.5 hour videos together. Still long for a lot of people but those videos are still on the channel if you wanted it more palatable
My god the crystal bearers combat and gameplay looks incredibly obnoxious
Literally nothing she said was racist. JFC
stop rambling and be more concise.