I think its still enjoyable. The only problem is that there are too many "players" who are trying to sell you there most cartoon /film accurate figure, and we buy them only to find out months later that another company did a better job making a MORE accurate figure. So youre always buying the same character just a more accurate figure, it's like a drug addiction. And the need for something “harder” is getting a more accurate figure.
I try to be patient and if FT COMES Out WITH SOMETHING I don’t like completely then I wait for xtransbots, and vice versus. Also, if I don’t like the masterpiece I may like the legend scale and buy that. I only have two masterpieces of the same character, and that is trailbreaker. They really do take up a lot of space. I’m constantly throughout the year adding wall shelves to make room for it. Eventually, in a few more years, after they’ve done most of my childhood favorites, I’ll stop buying. New characters aren’t that interesting t9 me, honestly.
I was done collecting MP transformers after Hound fell apart. And I mean, I never transformed him, and he sat on a shelf untouched, and parts fell off of him. WTF quality control did he have?!
I stopped with masterpiece around the time of earthrise. Once generations figures hit that sweet spot of some being comparable to mp but always more fun to transform, wider variety, and at retail costs. It essentially became the Marvel Legends equivalent vs a Hot Toy
Studio Series 86 feels like the perfect balance between toon accuracy and fun. Being that accuracy still on the table but the transformations feel like it still remain some sanity in the head of the designers.
It goes in phases, you want the best representation of each character and you don’t want to pay too much or more than you feel a figure is worth, but you are bound to learn by mistake or regret buys. There is a sense of satisfaction for those of us close to finishing our collections, but dread as better replacements come out and we jump on the pre order and then try to decide if it’s really justifiably better. Most of the time I want to go with fans toys, but I would prefer with characters I don’t care for as much like the headmaster that make toys finish them at a lower price. I still have my preorder in for ft berserk at bbts for $144.99, we’ll see if they honor it or bump up the price like they did with xtb Springer.
Space and merely replacing figures with a newer version are the 2 issues sucking the fun out of MP collecting. We are nearing the end of Seasons 1 & 2 bots so that will be nice but it still leaves the issue of completing combiners that Fanstoys may not do before we all die lol.
FansToys not completing Menasor and Superion has to be the biggest insult to their fans. I got their MotorMaster and Silverbolt to have as my bot versions but I went with X-Transbots, Zeta, and DX9 for combined, rest of the bots, and vehicle modes. I have a feeling they don't really know how to combine them. I mean wouldn't there already be combined modes for the ones that have been released? I think they are going to have to rely on shells like Zeta. I can't even imagine how even the trailer for MotorMaster, which is incorporated into the bot mode, would work to form Menasor.
I sold all my masterpieces and started with the mainline a few years ago. Now I have enough space and money for what I want in my collection and tons of great looking transformers as well.
Once I discovered the modern (Newage/Magic Square) legends scale, I was all done with MP (with rare exceptions). The modern legends seem to address (almost) all your complaints.
Legends is a double edged sword now because the designs have become more sophisticated and improved paint that they compete with MP. The only thing MP still has is the presence due to size if legends keeps moving in this direction
My only frustration missing out on a figure...I want the chrome version gigapower set of dinos but I missed out on Slag & Snarl...now the metallic version is coming in reissue but so far not the chrome versions... secondary market has Snarl at $480 & Slag at $650 which is the cheapest!!! Other than missing out, I do still enjoy the thrill of collecting...great video topic
It is funny that the Metallic ones went for a premium and the Chrome ones were cheap. Then the Metallic ones got reissued and the Chrome ones seem to creep up in price
I don’t replace MPs. Part of that is I'm not a hyper toon fan, part because I'm "cheap". Fact is I'm totally content with my collection as is. I'm also happy to add a good figure. The only MP I bought last year was the KO FT Cyclonus. I'm very happy with it, but I was very happy without it too.
Always fun seeing unique takes on our seasoned characters... Especially the obscure ones! Price, transformations, and same same figs are definitely the sour points of collecting. 👍🏾
Yes, is the only transformers I collect, they have a nice shelf presence, size, colors, accuracy, articulation and can pose pretty nice, this is the best time to collect.
The complex transformations can definitely put a damper on the fun of transforming a figure, thought it can also be viewed as a puzzle for puzzle fans, like Rubix Cube almost. ;) Good point about fewer replica figures of the same character for Transformers compared to Star Wars with all of the Mandalorian/Grogu combinations being offered recently as an example. Thanks Tydirium Hanger.
The funny thing is with Transformers there are different companies making the same character but with Star Wars it is mostly Hasbro making the same one over and over
I have a really hard time with the replacement part of the hobby. If it is a $20 mainline figure, then no worries. I can sell the old one and if there is a loss, then it is 5 bucks or so, but with MP, a figure can go from 200 to 80 or less overnight. It is tough to keep validating, especially when it hasn't been more than a couple of years. It is so bad that I have stopped pre-ordering entirely and will often wait years and years to fill a space because I know a superior version will come out. Blitzwing is a prime example. 7 years I have waited but to me it is easier then spending money on placeholders.
@Tydirium hanger I like the look of the Star Toy version, but I refuse to swap out figures for the latest and greatest. Everyone gets tired if waiting. Sure wish Fans Toys would preview a figure and release it soon after. Waiting 5 to 10 years is a poor business model.
It’s interesting that even though I’m my favorite Toy Reviewer on TH-cam, I put “TH” in the ShowZStore Product Reviewer Cell to help you out! Pretty cool that your news updates give me a leg up, so to speak, on Legends Class converting bots that homage fan favorite Transformers; and all the kinda stuff! With that, thanks, TH! 😉
I don't transform mines, however the issue I'm having is budget, also I'm between heroic and cartoon accurate look so searching for the right bot became part of the collecting genre, don't get me wrong, I'm still having fun just by checking websites and seeing comparison reviews, but my major issue is the high price , plus receiving imports in my country have an extra cost, and buying local is waaay more expensive 😢, I will accept an donations on MP figures 😅 so what I do is a mix between original, third-party and KO,s for example, KO acustic wave and DS blaster, and so on, so that gap gives me fun ! These also prevents me from replacements
Collecting on a budget and being cost conscious is very smart. You have less regrets when you get these for the best price possible and with lower priced items like Star Toys Blitzwing it is a bit easier.
@@tydiriumhanger1320 exactly, I'm also thinking on getting JB Devil with upgrade instead of the TW since is just for looks ! By the way, love your channel and keep it up !
I still enjoy collecting mp...I'm still frustrated with Fanstoys, I love their figures but I hate myself for continuing to buy them because I'm sick of them putting out new figures when I just want them to finish their stuntacons and airealbots. Every figure they put out is a reminder that those two teams sit incomplete on my shelf but I still preorder because they are putting out (objectively) the best representation of figures I still need to finish of my collection.
I only have couple of MPs of two characters I really really love but only one is in mid-transformation. The pictures to show how on the instruction sheet is so small and one day I'll just go find video to help me. But I enjoy Hasbro's Generations/Legacy line for years. Comparable in looks and seems to keep getting better, price and transforming. Ya I don't transform all my toys but its nice when I can just do so if wanted.
I only collect MP transformers and I can agree, the transformations recently have been more frustrating. But the main reason for the sluggishness is the “too much of the same thing” you we’re talking about. I like upgrades to my figures , but I like new characters even more. Xtb looks like it’s going that route soon. Also release dates suck in the MP world. Ex. At this rate, my MMC Defensor will be done by 2025. And the release dates are always months late.
As a relatively new MP collector, I'm happy about the redoing of characters or having options. For someone like me who misses out on so many characters its nice getting a 2nd or 3rd chance to actually get a character we missed.
That is definitely a positive for all the competition of the same character. Then you do not have to figure out what to do with the old one that is out of favor
Nearing the end of my collection. Sure there are ones missing I won't be able to buy, like fanstoys blur unless they reissue him. Paying £100-150 is a tad hard to justify sometimes. Ultra Magnus is great, looks like the cartoon but I wasn't overwhelmed. Springer xtb was a good looking bot but the backpack is awful I just received fanstoys sea spray from showz. Mostly bought him for bot mode, since I already had xtb seaspray for alt mode The ft version is great but just feels a bit souless? There are a few bumblebee movie figures up for preorder and I'm like do I have the energy to buy them? It's all a bit weird right now for me.
I will always like MP G1. I just wish that certain figures like the iconic Jazz would get love from Takara. I know that they would knock it out of the design park and have all the beautiful articulation that I can imagine and pose. I have Downbeat and Jive but I know that Takara can do it a little better. #still waiting
I just got into a position to pick back up on my MP collection. I got away from it because I didn't witness the value of it plus I was into getting more of the toys from when I was a kid. Vintage G1, Star Wars & Voltron mostly with a few of the early to mid 90s Star Wars. I started collecting the mainline Beast Wars when I saw my son was into them then I got hooked on the show when it began referencing my childhood. After years of watching reviews, then seeing the prices of mainline figures get up to near 3p MP prices, I started back. I noticed, if you get in on a pre-order, you can just about get it for $30-50 more than the mainline AND it's a better rendition of the character. Couple that with instant equity in the figure when it hits release & it holds value better... even if opened, MP was a no brainer for me. My collection is now mainly MP scale Beast Wars & MP G1 (pre 86 movie) Decepticons. All this is just my opinion after being out of the game for so long. But that's what makes it so fun. I'm seeing things released now that I would've NEVER dreamed possible back during the MP-01 & MP-05... both which I still have. Lol
So true about how these figures have been improved. I never thought they would be this close to perfection but I also never thought so many would be lacking diecast
I dont mess with them unless they come in alt mode. I've always collected mp scale and mainline for a bit and then focused on buying firearms instead.i go back and forth on what I collect
I like the puzzle element of Transformers in trying to transform without instructions. And that's fine for mainline but I can't risk an a MP without following an instructional video because there's too many fragile little pieces and panel that don't give you a second chance without breaking. So actually transformation for me has gone from the essential appeal to a frustrating chore to be avoided. But I'm too close to completing the characters I want now. So I continue.
I agree about the transformation chore. I fall into that 65-70 percent who don't often transform the figure. I have the Deformation Space Seekers. Not one got transformed. It's just nice to know they can be.😂
@@warrickmcinerney7899 I did my DS Starscream twice and back. I don't have a problem with it but I didn't do Skywarp or Thundercracker even once lol And they've all got the parts-forming backpacks too. I might never transform them but I like to know I could.
If you ever broke a figure it can actually ruin your day and make the transformation feel like a waste of time. That is a stressful part of the hobby but on the other hand displaying them is the fun
I've always collected main line transformers but now my space is limited. I'm considering switching to my favorite top 10 figures in masterpiece. I may consider going all in on legends figures.
I don't transform MPs if I don't need to, especially if they are already in bot mode. If I want an alt mode, I get another and transform it or just use an older figure. Collecting MPs is still fun but lack of space is my main issue right now. I also collect mainline, Classified GI Joe, and Macross toys and those take up a lot of room. I think cost is the most frustrating part though. Because of FOMO, I've preordered figures thinking they might sell out only to have them not only be plentiful but also get steep price cuts not long after release. BBTS and TFSource have been having some good sales lately and had I waited on some of these like the MP Skyfire, I could have saved myself quite a bit.
It is tough to decide which figures to wait for a sale. I usually have some characters that are must haves and others that are maybes. Maybes are wait for sale characters
FansToys "Jabber"...an incredible robot mode, but DAMN, that vehicle mode is fugly!! I'm amazed that nobody's tried their hand at a Blurr since then. Blaster...I will be all good if I can get my mitts on the KFC/XTB one. Sure, it ain't show accurate, but it was otherwise fantabulously AWESOME. I don't think that they did all the Tape Minions, though...only Rewind, Eject, and Rosanna (who comes with Twincast, ugh!!). You're spot on about the transformation trouble, though!! I'd say that early stuff like the MP3 & MP11 Seeker molds, MP9 Rodimus Prime, and such were Unicron sized *RED FLAGS* about the complexity to come. Then along came MP36 Megatron and beyond...
I find it interesting that I never liked 86 movie alt modes until MP started bringing them to life. Since they are not based on real cars it is more open to interpretations
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Ehhh...I was always down with Hot Rod, Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus, Arcee, Springer, Galvatron, Cyclonus...but Scourge's giant space slipper of murder death SUCKS in any form, there's no gettin' past that. MPs sure did ramp it up to over 9000, though.
I'm buying that Metroplex and I have a spot reserved for it. It will barely fit and will be stuck in bot mode. Metroplex was my last Transformer as a kid, so I will own that one too.
Good video as always, I was collecting MP but it expensive for me, so i decided make my own figures with 3d printers and now i have more than 15 G1 made with the sizes that i want beside the others MP that i bought before, also i made some Super Robots from 80's I know is not the same look or quality but for me are enough and i enjoy making them , by the way now I'm going to make superion and devastator with almost 22 inches each one and later will make some diorama and ships of the serie that i would like to share here . I'm pretty sure that will be part of the future of collecting .
It is always fun to make figures or accessories and have a unique collection. I bet it looks great and I would love to see pics of those creations facebook.com/photo/?fbid=747448913739675&set=a.561705802313988
Running out of space is definitely making it more stressful than fun, but that's mostly due to my home which I've outgrown for awhile now and collecting MP certainly doesn't help! That LT Metroplex would be super awesome, but I can't justify that one with the lack of space and probably the cost to boot. The releasing of characters that already have been made is frustrating as well. I am willing to get some of those since they are cool, but I don't want to get duplicates prior to figures that haven't been made yet.
i am too obsessed with hot wheels and customizing them to keep up with these lines plus id need a better jerb ! i do buy the major faves when i can speaking of i need that recentish dinobot ! and obviously the ko .... thanks for the vid both sarcastically and genuinely my little kid brain loved grimlocks lack of smarts but skills as a leader and blah blah hes awesome and integral and i think that cobalt blue is a great colorway thats around a 100 bones in my dollars but its grimlock . in blue
I remember when I first saw blue G2 Grimlock in Kaybee and I thought what a cheap cash grab. Then 10 years later I had to get him only to find out there was also a light blue one LOL
id say the darker blue is the better looking one ? im not gonna look i like not knowing whats coming out ! i just saw the clear purple cyclonus and my heart sank i dont need it forsurely i do not and its $$$$$$$ but oh my .
I have to watch a transformation before I decide because if it's full of flipping flaps and get lost just watching it I won't get it. Price is a factor too and the last MP I bought was Deformation Space Recording Alliance (Blaster) for $80 from ShowZ and fun transformation. I do skip a lot of releases because of that though.
I never transform my MP figures unless they are shipped in alt mode. I'm too scared it will break and I never display anything but Dinobots in alt mode.
It's not fun for me to spend high money on something that doesn't look premium but is justified by tracing something that's been drawn cheaply to beat a deadline. But I guess I'm in the minority as companies wouldn't move in the current direction if that was the case.
I stopped collecting masterpiece transformers after they announced the end of the line to focus in other stuff I really don't care about, now I'm into studio series.
Well I don't know if I'm going to articulate this well enough, but one thing for me that sucks the air out of the room when it comes to masterpiece collecting is the fan base itself and how some people within the fandom behave. I'm assuming that the majority of masterpiece collectors are male, sure there's some girls out there, but I got a feeling that most Transformers masterpiece collectors are predominantly male, half the time their behavior is very juvenile or feminate in behavior. That to me takes some of the fun out of it because of their stupidity and lack of class. Not that I let somebody's bad attitude get to me, but does get annoying. And I'm from the school that just because something is newer doesn't mean that's necessarily better. I think that some older releases are better done than some of the newer ones. Depending on the figure. Just an example I'm not into the hyper toon look. If that's something that you're into I see nothing wrong with that option being there, but I still kind of like the more classic masterpiece figures that initially first came out where they had more of a real world feel to them then something that looks like it came from the animation. I still come from the angle that I think that the cartoon show is what led to the downfall the original G1 line. Starting maybe halfway through the second series, leaning into the movie, then into the third and fourth seasons is what killed the franchise. If they stuck more with the original comic book story arc, which is where the cartoon was originally based off of, I got a feeling the reception and interest in the toy line would have lasted longer. I think there should be a mixture of both toon accurate figures and more realistic looking masterpiece figures just so that they're in the selection for each type of collector out there so that there is a market for everyone. When they start to specialize with one thing that's never a good thing. And I also think that the make toys (pronounced ma key) headmasters are still actually pretty good figures. I think that their hardhead was there best release yet, but overall I don't think that there needs to be a redo the figure per se because some of the older stuff I don't think is that bad. Maybe some retooling and revamping some design elements, but other than that it's a decent figure as is. Getting toon accurate I don't think it's a good thing because no offense to anybody who's into that, I think when it's strictly just that way, it kind of cheapens the overall appeal of the figure. Using drive and Phantasm as examples, I think the molding on both figures are absolutely great, but I don't necessarily like the coloration or paint apps that were used. Let's be honest, sometimes the quality of animation that was in the old G1 cartoon wasn't the greatest. There were times when they got really cheap in production, and it showed. I wouldn't want that the translate over to my personal collection I've got a personal connection towards jazz because he was one of my first Transformers I have ever owned, so I'm a little picky though what I like and I don't like and him. But like I said I like the sculpting that they put into the fans toys version, but I think they could have done better with the painting. Don't care too much for the blue headlights, and the blue tinted windows. I would have liked it better if they were like the Nissan Brothers in terms of how they did the coloration on those figures. Even though they've done animation accurate coloration for those figures, the more realistic versions of the figures or more in demand than the animated repaints is my point. I'm thinking I'm getting a second Phantasm and repeating some of the non-chrome parts Chrome and adding the sticker sheet that they already have over at toy hacks to make it a little more to my liking. Sometimes in this hobby you get a lot of the same character, but I'm starting to feel that there isn't a lot of selection in terms of what kind of style or aesthetic that you want from the character. And that can cause a problem. Like I said, I got a feeling that the toon look it's popular, but I don't think it's a smart move to have that strictly as the only option to choose from when you want a figure in your collection. Does she be more variance of the same type of mold or figure available if you want to go one way or another. But that's me..
Yep the too toon can be a problem but Fanstoys usually balances the toon aesthetic with real world elements through paint. It does not always work but sometimes
This morning I had to fight off transformering action figure dolly collectors dying to get a transformering action figure dolly that transformerings into a camera 📷
Yes, Transformations are Horrible. I don't transform anything unless it comes in Altmode or have too combine them. Whats exciting to me is that Transformers has all these 3rd party companies and ko companies just all trying to give the customers what they want.. Is not like in some industry where certain manufacturers have secure rights or licenses for the IP and only they can make them.. that sometimes leads to boring uninspiring designs!! Like in the case of Marvel Legends or Mattels DC justice league. always great video Mike.
@@tydiriumhanger1320 i used to do that with g1 cliffjumper and my gobots crasher and leader 1 all the time. 😄 That's not happening with modern transformers
I think its still enjoyable. The only problem is that there are too many "players" who are trying to sell you there most cartoon /film accurate figure, and we buy them only to find out months later that another company did a better job making a MORE accurate figure. So youre always buying the same character just a more accurate figure, it's like a drug addiction. And the need for something “harder” is getting a more accurate figure.
This and the fact the our not making the full spread of characters. Takes me a bit out of it. But I do like options in buying.
😂😂😂 u damn right, an addiction. I'm waiting for the mailman like a junkie ❤
Yep,you nailed it
I try to be patient and if FT COMES Out WITH SOMETHING I don’t like completely then I wait for xtransbots, and vice versus. Also, if I don’t like the masterpiece I may like the legend scale and buy that. I only have two masterpieces of the same character, and that is trailbreaker. They really do take up a lot of space. I’m constantly throughout the year adding wall shelves to make room for it. Eventually, in a few more years, after they’ve done most of my childhood favorites, I’ll stop buying. New characters aren’t that interesting t9 me, honestly.
Options are great but it does get old
I was done collecting MP transformers after Hound fell apart. And I mean, I never transformed him, and he sat on a shelf untouched, and parts fell off of him. WTF quality control did he have?!
That was the era of Takara trying a different factory while still charging more
I stopped with masterpiece around the time of earthrise. Once generations figures hit that sweet spot of some being comparable to mp but always more fun to transform, wider variety, and at retail costs. It essentially became the Marvel Legends equivalent vs a Hot Toy
Hasbro has been doing great lately and worth the money for most offerings
Studio Series 86 feels like the perfect balance between toon accuracy and fun. Being that accuracy still on the table but the transformations feel like it still remain some sanity in the head of the designers.
This is how I feel with the Generations line!!
I sold half my collection and took 2 years off. Now I'm back getting new figures and having a blast
Time away can change your perspective. Either you come back and love it or you shift gears to something else
It goes in phases, you want the best representation of each character and you don’t want to pay too much or more than you feel a figure is worth, but you are bound to learn by mistake or regret buys. There is a sense of satisfaction for those of us close to finishing our collections, but dread as better replacements come out and we jump on the pre order and then try to decide if it’s really justifiably better. Most of the time I want to go with fans toys, but I would prefer with characters I don’t care for as much like the headmaster that make toys finish them at a lower price. I still have my preorder in for ft berserk at bbts for $144.99, we’ll see if they honor it or bump up the price like they did with xtb Springer.
I hope they honor the price but I doubt it! Yes Regret is something we learn from
Space and merely replacing figures with a newer version are the 2 issues sucking the fun out of MP collecting. We are nearing the end of Seasons 1 & 2 bots so that will be nice but it still leaves the issue of completing combiners that Fanstoys may not do before we all die lol.
FansToys not completing Menasor and Superion has to be the biggest insult to their fans. I got their MotorMaster and Silverbolt to have as my bot versions but I went with X-Transbots, Zeta, and DX9 for combined, rest of the bots, and vehicle modes. I have a feeling they don't really know how to combine them. I mean wouldn't there already be combined modes for the ones that have been released? I think they are going to have to rely on shells like Zeta. I can't even imagine how even the trailer for MotorMaster, which is incorporated into the bot mode, would work to form Menasor.
Yep most bet on Fanstoys for combiners and got burned while those who got the others are satisfied....for now
$200 on a blaster figure seems totally ridiculous...he turns into a box
I love them, exclusively. Never giving up on em:)
I sold all my masterpieces and started with the mainline a few years ago. Now I have enough space and money for what I want in my collection and tons of great looking transformers as well.
True you can get more characters and display more in the same space. Bet it looks great
Masterpiece scale is a godsend for toy photographers but legends scale is good if you wanna transform a lot and for display space
Yes they both do things well and serve different purposes
Once I discovered the modern (Newage/Magic Square) legends scale, I was all done with MP (with rare exceptions). The modern legends seem to address (almost) all your complaints.
Legends is a double edged sword now because the designs have become more sophisticated and improved paint that they compete with MP. The only thing MP still has is the presence due to size if legends keeps moving in this direction
My only frustration missing out on a figure...I want the chrome version gigapower set of dinos but I missed out on Slag & Snarl...now the metallic version is coming in reissue but so far not the chrome versions... secondary market has Snarl at $480 & Slag at $650 which is the cheapest!!! Other than missing out, I do still enjoy the thrill of collecting...great video topic
You'll get them someday good sir!! I remember the day I finally finished my chrome collection, it was great!!
It is funny that the Metallic ones went for a premium and the Chrome ones were cheap. Then the Metallic ones got reissued and the Chrome ones seem to creep up in price
I'm going to start collecting Legends scale mini MP's they are a whole lot more Shelf friendly and take up less space and alot cheaper. Be blessed
Yep and at the appropriate distance it is hard to tell if you are looking at legends or Masterpiece because legends are getting that good
Just got my star toys Blitzwing, so sweet, so fun
Looks great and the transformation is involved but intuitive. Shiny plastic but less paint and no scratching
The one and probably most important point is not finishing a set ie combiner sets missing the last part and so you can't combine them
I don’t replace MPs. Part of that is I'm not a hyper toon fan, part because I'm "cheap". Fact is I'm totally content with my collection as is. I'm also happy to add a good figure. The only MP I bought last year was the KO FT Cyclonus. I'm very happy with it, but I was very happy without it too.
Always fun seeing unique takes on our seasoned characters... Especially the obscure ones! Price, transformations, and same same figs are definitely the sour points of collecting. 👍🏾
Yes that gets old but it is part of the game that we play when collecting MP
Yes, is the only transformers I collect, they have a nice shelf presence, size, colors, accuracy, articulation and can pose pretty nice, this is the best time to collect.
The complex transformations can definitely put a damper on the fun of transforming a figure, thought it can also be viewed as a puzzle for puzzle fans, like Rubix Cube almost. ;) Good point about fewer replica figures of the same character for Transformers compared to Star Wars with all of the Mandalorian/Grogu combinations being offered recently as an example. Thanks Tydirium Hanger.
The funny thing is with Transformers there are different companies making the same character but with Star Wars it is mostly Hasbro making the same one over and over
I have a really hard time with the replacement part of the hobby. If it is a $20 mainline figure, then no worries. I can sell the old one and if there is a loss, then it is 5 bucks or so, but with MP, a figure can go from 200 to 80 or less overnight. It is tough to keep validating, especially when it hasn't been more than a couple of years.
It is so bad that I have stopped pre-ordering entirely and will often wait years and years to fill a space because I know a superior version will come out. Blitzwing is a prime example. 7 years I have waited but to me it is easier then spending money on placeholders.
All I need is the FansToys Bliztwing and I'm done with Masterpiece. Looking forward to completing it
Good to hear you will still be with us for quite a while LOL
Some are saying Blitzwing in 2024 but I have heard that every year since 2017
@Tydirium hanger I like the look of the Star Toy version, but I refuse to swap out figures for the latest and greatest. Everyone gets tired if waiting. Sure wish Fans Toys would preview a figure and release it soon after. Waiting 5 to 10 years is a poor business model.
Availability has been the only issue I have encountered , it feels like I’ve been waiting forever for bbts to ship jive 😢
Yes! Toon style is my thing 😊
It finally fixes that feeling we had back in the day when we watched the show but had a brick for a toy
It’s interesting that even though I’m my favorite Toy Reviewer on TH-cam, I put “TH” in the ShowZStore Product Reviewer Cell to help you out! Pretty cool that your news updates give me a leg up, so to speak, on Legends Class converting bots that homage fan favorite Transformers; and all the kinda stuff! With that, thanks, TH! 😉
I appreciate the support! Great that you are doing reviews I am about to check out your top 10 vid!
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Thanks, TH! Excited to see what you think!
I don't transform mines, however the issue I'm having is budget, also I'm between heroic and cartoon accurate look so searching for the right bot became part of the collecting genre, don't get me wrong, I'm still having fun just by checking websites and seeing comparison reviews, but my major issue is the high price , plus receiving imports in my country have an extra cost, and buying local is waaay more expensive 😢, I will accept an donations on MP figures 😅 so what I do is a mix between original, third-party and KO,s for example, KO acustic wave and DS blaster, and so on, so that gap gives me fun ! These also prevents me from replacements
Collecting on a budget and being cost conscious is very smart. You have less regrets when you get these for the best price possible and with lower priced items like Star Toys Blitzwing it is a bit easier.
@@tydiriumhanger1320 exactly, I'm also thinking on getting JB Devil with upgrade instead of the TW since is just for looks ! By the way, love your channel and keep it up !
I only shop for ones from season 1-4 ..i dont have much space in my tiny apartment..but alot of them are temping..wish i had space for them
you forgot waiting 10 yrs for deliveries from china and japan
I still enjoy collecting mp...I'm still frustrated with Fanstoys, I love their figures but I hate myself for continuing to buy them because I'm sick of them putting out new figures when I just want them to finish their stuntacons and airealbots. Every figure they put out is a reminder that those two teams sit incomplete on my shelf but I still preorder because they are putting out (objectively) the best representation of figures I still need to finish of my collection.
That lack of completing combiners is a huge negative for Fanstoys and I hope they fix that soon
I only have couple of MPs of two characters I really really love but only one is in mid-transformation. The pictures to show how on the instruction sheet is so small and one day I'll just go find video to help me. But I enjoy Hasbro's Generations/Legacy line for years. Comparable in looks and seems to keep getting better, price and transforming. Ya I don't transform all my toys but its nice when I can just do so if wanted.
I only collect MP transformers and I can agree, the transformations recently have been more frustrating. But the main reason for the sluggishness is the “too much of the same thing” you we’re talking about. I like upgrades to my figures , but I like new characters even more. Xtb looks like it’s going that route soon. Also release dates suck in the MP world. Ex. At this rate, my MMC Defensor will be done by 2025. And the release dates are always months late.
I only collect masterpieces, for the most part, third party and officials, and I never transform them, unless they come in alt mode.
As a relatively new MP collector, I'm happy about the redoing of characters or having options. For someone like me who misses out on so many characters its nice getting a 2nd or 3rd chance to actually get a character we missed.
That is definitely a positive for all the competition of the same character. Then you do not have to figure out what to do with the old one that is out of favor
Nearing the end of my collection.
Sure there are ones missing I won't be able to buy, like fanstoys blur unless they reissue him.
Paying £100-150 is a tad hard to justify sometimes.
Ultra Magnus is great, looks like the cartoon but I wasn't overwhelmed.
Springer xtb was a good looking bot but the backpack is awful
I just received fanstoys sea spray from showz. Mostly bought him for bot mode, since I already had xtb seaspray for alt mode
The ft version is great but just feels a bit souless?
There are a few bumblebee movie figures up for preorder and I'm like do I have the energy to buy them?
It's all a bit weird right now for me.
Speaking of Like Toys lol. Have you had any kind of update from them in a while? Might be cool to see where they're at with our small town boy.
I will always like MP G1. I just wish that certain figures like the iconic Jazz would get love from Takara. I know that they would knock it out of the design park and have all the beautiful articulation that I can imagine and pose. I have Downbeat and Jive but I know that Takara can do it a little better. #still waiting
Takara should get after the rest of those figures like Jazz and why no Galvatron
I just got into a position to pick back up on my MP collection. I got away from it because I didn't witness the value of it plus I was into getting more of the toys from when I was a kid. Vintage G1, Star Wars & Voltron mostly with a few of the early to mid 90s Star Wars. I started collecting the mainline Beast Wars when I saw my son was into them then I got hooked on the show when it began referencing my childhood. After years of watching reviews, then seeing the prices of mainline figures get up to near 3p MP prices, I started back. I noticed, if you get in on a pre-order, you can just about get it for $30-50 more than the mainline AND it's a better rendition of the character. Couple that with instant equity in the figure when it hits release & it holds value better... even if opened, MP was a no brainer for me. My collection is now mainly MP scale Beast Wars & MP G1 (pre 86 movie) Decepticons.
All this is just my opinion after being out of the game for so long. But that's what makes it so fun. I'm seeing things released now that I would've NEVER dreamed possible back during the MP-01 & MP-05... both which I still have. Lol
So true about how these figures have been improved. I never thought they would be this close to perfection but I also never thought so many would be lacking diecast
I was priced out of the mps 3 or 4 years ago. The original mp-44 price was ridiculous. I'm not a toon accuracy collector either.
Absolutely. Only MP level satisfy my TF needs.
I dont mess with them unless they come in alt mode. I've always collected mp scale and mainline for a bit and then focused on buying firearms instead.i go back and forth on what I collect
With all hobbies it is good to take a break and when you return you appreciate it more
@@tydiriumhanger1320 totally agree. Hobby burn out is real 🤣
oh its a love /hate thang... but FUN... HELL YEAH MAN!! that's the problem.. that joy I get with this stuff.. for ever i think.. I hope.. lets see
I like the puzzle element of Transformers in trying to transform without instructions. And that's fine for mainline but I can't risk an a MP without following an instructional video because there's too many fragile little pieces and panel that don't give you a second chance without breaking.
So actually transformation for me has gone from the essential appeal to a frustrating chore to be avoided.
But I'm too close to completing the characters I want now.
So I continue.
I agree about the transformation chore. I fall into that 65-70 percent who don't often transform the figure. I have the Deformation Space Seekers. Not one got transformed. It's just nice to know they can be.😂
@@warrickmcinerney7899 I did my DS Starscream twice and back.
I don't have a problem with it but I didn't do Skywarp or Thundercracker even once lol
And they've all got the parts-forming backpacks too.
I might never transform them but I like to know I could.
If you ever broke a figure it can actually ruin your day and make the transformation feel like a waste of time. That is a stressful part of the hobby but on the other hand displaying them is the fun
Yes, especially now that the quality has improved x10 since the MP era started.
Some of the figures released these days are mindblowing and we have come a long way
I've always collected main line transformers but now my space is limited. I'm considering switching to my favorite top 10 figures in masterpiece. I may consider going all in on legends figures.
I don't transform MPs if I don't need to, especially if they are already in bot mode. If I want an alt mode, I get another and transform it or just use an older figure. Collecting MPs is still fun but lack of space is my main issue right now. I also collect mainline, Classified GI Joe, and Macross toys and those take up a lot of room.
I think cost is the most frustrating part though. Because of FOMO, I've preordered figures thinking they might sell out only to have them not only be plentiful but also get steep price cuts not long after release. BBTS and TFSource have been having some good sales lately and had I waited on some of these like the MP Skyfire, I could have saved myself quite a bit.
It is tough to decide which figures to wait for a sale. I usually have some characters that are must haves and others that are maybes. Maybes are wait for sale characters
FansToys "Jabber"...an incredible robot mode, but DAMN, that vehicle mode is fugly!! I'm amazed that nobody's tried their hand at a Blurr since then.
Blaster...I will be all good if I can get my mitts on the KFC/XTB one. Sure, it ain't show accurate, but it was otherwise fantabulously AWESOME. I don't think that they did all the Tape Minions, though...only Rewind, Eject, and Rosanna (who comes with Twincast, ugh!!).
You're spot on about the transformation trouble, though!! I'd say that early stuff like the MP3 & MP11 Seeker molds, MP9 Rodimus Prime, and such were Unicron sized *RED FLAGS* about the complexity to come. Then along came MP36 Megatron and beyond...
I find it interesting that I never liked 86 movie alt modes until MP started bringing them to life. Since they are not based on real cars it is more open to interpretations
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Ehhh...I was always down with Hot Rod, Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus, Arcee, Springer, Galvatron, Cyclonus...but Scourge's giant space slipper of murder death SUCKS in any form, there's no gettin' past that. MPs sure did ramp it up to over 9000, though.
I'm buying that Metroplex and I have a spot reserved for it. It will barely fit and will be stuck in bot mode. Metroplex was my last Transformer as a kid, so I will own that one too.
That is so great to plan future displays and it makes the day it finally arrived that much more special
Good video as always, I was collecting MP but it expensive for me, so i decided make my own figures with 3d printers and now i have more than 15 G1 made with the sizes that i want beside the others MP that i bought before, also i made some Super Robots from 80's
I know is not the same look or quality but for me are enough and i enjoy making them , by the way now I'm going to make superion and devastator with almost 22 inches each one and later will make some diorama and ships of the serie that i would like to share here .
I'm pretty sure that will be part of the future of collecting .
It is always fun to make figures or accessories and have a unique collection. I bet it looks great and I would love to see pics of those creations facebook.com/photo/?fbid=747448913739675&set=a.561705802313988
How about the embarrassment of trying to justify continued re-purchasing of the same figure.
True but here is the excuse list. One for each mode, then one for a different display then one for a focused collection.....OK it is embarrassing
Running out of space is definitely making it more stressful than fun, but that's mostly due to my home which I've outgrown for awhile now and collecting MP certainly doesn't help! That LT Metroplex would be super awesome, but I can't justify that one with the lack of space and probably the cost to boot. The releasing of characters that already have been made is frustrating as well. I am willing to get some of those since they are cool, but I don't want to get duplicates prior to figures that haven't been made yet.
I have been leaving the older one in alt mode and the newer or better one in bot mode. Seems to work out
Hey Mike, love your videos. How do I submit pictures for the 17K subscriber special? I just set up a new space and I'd love to do so
Here is the link and I look forward to seeing the pics facebook.com/photo/?fbid=747448913739675&set=a.561705802313988
I have a few that's never been transformed. Out of 123 a few isn't bad
It would be interesting to find out what 3 they are
i am too obsessed with hot wheels and customizing them to keep up with these lines plus id need a better jerb ! i do buy the major faves when i can speaking of i need that recentish dinobot ! and obviously the ko .... thanks for the vid both sarcastically and genuinely my little kid brain loved grimlocks lack of smarts but skills as a leader and blah blah hes awesome and integral
and i think that cobalt blue is a great colorway thats around a 100 bones in my dollars
but its grimlock . in blue
mp-41 dinobot i couldnt think of it a minute ago
I remember when I first saw blue G2 Grimlock in Kaybee and I thought what a cheap cash grab. Then 10 years later I had to get him only to find out there was also a light blue one LOL
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id say the darker blue is the better looking one ? im not gonna look i like not knowing whats coming out ! i just saw the clear purple cyclonus and my heart sank i dont need it forsurely i do not and its $$$$$$$ but oh my .
I have to watch a transformation before I decide because if it's full of flipping flaps and get lost just watching it I won't get it. Price is a factor too and the last MP I bought was Deformation Space Recording Alliance (Blaster) for $80 from ShowZ and fun transformation. I do skip a lot of releases because of that though.
Funny that the lower priced bots usually have better transformations but not all the time
I never transform my MP figures unless they are shipped in alt mode. I'm too scared it will break and I never display anything but Dinobots in alt mode.
Yep nothing sucks the fun out of that new figure faster than a breakage!
It's not fun for me to spend high money on something that doesn't look premium but is justified by tracing something that's been drawn cheaply to beat a deadline. But I guess I'm in the minority as companies wouldn't move in the current direction if that was the case.
I understand that sentiment! When you look at Quietus then Phantasm you see they do not present the same level of perceived quality
I stopped collecting masterpiece transformers after they announced the end of the line to focus in other stuff I really don't care about, now I'm into studio series.
Well I don't know if I'm going to articulate this well enough, but one thing for me that sucks the air out of the room when it comes to masterpiece collecting is the fan base itself and how some people within the fandom behave. I'm assuming that the majority of masterpiece collectors are male, sure there's some girls out there, but I got a feeling that most Transformers masterpiece collectors are predominantly male, half the time their behavior is very juvenile or feminate in behavior. That to me takes some of the fun out of it because of their stupidity and lack of class. Not that I let somebody's bad attitude get to me, but does get annoying.
And I'm from the school that just because something is newer doesn't mean that's necessarily better. I think that some older releases are better done than some of the newer ones. Depending on the figure.
Just an example I'm not into the hyper toon look. If that's something that you're into I see nothing wrong with that option being there, but I still kind of like the more classic masterpiece figures that initially first came out where they had more of a real world feel to them then something that looks like it came from the animation. I still come from the angle that I think that the cartoon show is what led to the downfall the original G1 line. Starting maybe halfway through the second series, leaning into the movie, then into the third and fourth seasons is what killed the franchise. If they stuck more with the original comic book story arc, which is where the cartoon was originally based off of, I got a feeling the reception and interest in the toy line would have lasted longer.
I think there should be a mixture of both toon accurate figures and more realistic looking masterpiece figures just so that they're in the selection for each type of collector out there so that there is a market for everyone. When they start to specialize with one thing that's never a good thing.
And I also think that the make toys (pronounced ma key) headmasters are still actually pretty good figures. I think that their hardhead was there best release yet, but overall I don't think that there needs to be a redo the figure per se because some of the older stuff I don't think is that bad. Maybe some retooling and revamping some design elements, but other than that it's a decent figure as is.
Getting toon accurate I don't think it's a good thing because no offense to anybody who's into that, I think when it's strictly just that way, it kind of cheapens the overall appeal of the figure.
Using drive and Phantasm as examples, I think the molding on both figures are absolutely great, but I don't necessarily like the coloration or paint apps that were used. Let's be honest, sometimes the quality of animation that was in the old G1 cartoon wasn't the greatest. There were times when they got really cheap in production, and it showed. I wouldn't want that the translate over to my personal collection
I've got a personal connection towards jazz because he was one of my first Transformers I have ever owned, so I'm a little picky though what I like and I don't like and him. But like I said I like the sculpting that they put into the fans toys version, but I think they could have done better with the painting. Don't care too much for the blue headlights, and the blue tinted windows. I would have liked it better if they were like the Nissan Brothers in terms of how they did the coloration on those figures. Even though they've done animation accurate coloration for those figures, the more realistic versions of the figures or more in demand than the animated repaints is my point.
I'm thinking I'm getting a second Phantasm and repeating some of the non-chrome parts Chrome and adding the sticker sheet that they already have over at toy hacks to make it a little more to my liking.
Sometimes in this hobby you get a lot of the same character, but I'm starting to feel that there isn't a lot of selection in terms of what kind of style or aesthetic that you want from the character. And that can cause a problem.
Like I said, I got a feeling that the toon look it's popular, but I don't think it's a smart move to have that strictly as the only option to choose from when you want a figure in your collection. Does she be more variance of the same type of mold or figure available if you want to go one way or another.
But that's me..
Yep the too toon can be a problem but Fanstoys usually balances the toon aesthetic with real world elements through paint. It does not always work but sometimes
MP Sunstreaker was harder to transform then Jive.
FT mini bots are fun to transform but their others bot are a different story.
Yep Ft is getting better but still seem a bit of a chore to flip from one mode to the other
This morning I had to fight off transformering action figure dolly collectors dying to get a transformering action figure dolly that transformerings into a camera 📷
LOL I bet that was no fun at all!
Yes, Transformations are Horrible. I don't transform anything unless it comes in Altmode or have too combine them. Whats exciting to me is that Transformers has all these 3rd party companies and ko companies just all trying to give the customers what they want.. Is not like in some industry where certain manufacturers have secure rights or licenses for the IP and only they can make them.. that sometimes leads to boring uninspiring designs!! Like in the case of Marvel Legends or Mattels DC justice league. always great video Mike.
Competition is great for the TF fans and sad for Marvel, Star Wars and Dc
Some of these 3rd party bots are way too complex in transformation? Some are good, its a 50/50
It sure is the price we pay for them looking so great but the occasional easy transform is awesome
@@tydiriumhanger1320 yes, they look beautiful, 😆 i have Koot,
Yeah transforming masterpiece isn't fun. Transforming g1 was.
It took a few seconds.
It was fun if you could transform the figure in the time duration of the Transform sound. Hard to do but happened a few times
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i used to do that with g1 cliffjumper and my gobots crasher and leader 1 all the time. 😄
That's not happening with modern transformers
Thanks for ruining the line accuracy fanboys
Well to be honest most of the toon figures are remakes so older ones look more real world and options still exist
I still love mp scale bots. The prices for legends scale are getting kinda pricey for the amount of plastic you're getting.
The gap between MP and legend is narrowing for both the looks and the price
Mp fo liiiiife