@@Рычажный He leads Strigon, the enemy ace squadron of the game. They show up in the first mission to make sure the invasion is successful and you're supposed to run. Fight, and whatever plane you kill will have been his, injuring him and basically stripping his wings away, and it will mean Talisman (you) made sure that he grows to become the good guy he is buy the end of the story. He's still injured regardless, but it's nice that you can actively choose to be the reason for something to occur. It would end if he were to actually get through in one piece. He'd never have the experience that led him to his turn, and therefore would've likely died as his replacement did: dueling you over the city when you come to retake it. The kids he helped likely would have died as well, and that has tragic implications for another character the story follows because the death of her child would've made her entire journey completely pointless.
@private_ryan1755 Yeah, I even think AC4 allies actually get better the higher the difficulty because I remember trying to S rank on Ace and allies ruining my runs by stealing my kills.
Dude dumb little kid brain meant that I refused to turn tail… I just had to get better at it. Brother I spent so much time facing off against yellows I couldn’t beat 😂
Monarch: Ignores everything just to bully Crimson a little bit Also Monarch: Steps over the red line just for the entire enemy navy/marine fleet to focus only on him.
When I saw that fleet for the first time I knew I had to come back to the mission as PW MK 1 just to say "hi there" then lock on to all of the ships "bye bye"
Try mercenary, with glass Cannon, speed demon, ace training, double time and random super weapons modifier for the enemies *Only then you'll feel the true power of the Pacific federation... While your CPU and GPU are actively melting in the background...*
>out numbered 8 to 1 against an elite squadron >beat the shit out of them and nearly kill 1 >force them into retreat to prevent casualty >"He put up a GOOD fight didn't be?" Y'see Crimson 1, your threat assessment is the one at fault here.
TBH, before I watch some walkthroughs of PW, I never thought I could disengage so I took on Crimson with F-14. Took me quite a lot of jolting before I shot one down with guns cuz missile almost never hits.
Missile hits are easier with AoA. The crimson planes have a cooldown on their AoA, like you do. If you fire a missile, they use their AoA, and you use your AoA to get back in a good missile launch position, then you can usually get a missile hit after that. Or just use the harrier with its ridiculous turn radius.
High speed flybys also work, if you use flares, and run away toll about 11k distance, then turn nose on, you can get head on missile hits a lot easier than in the turn fight
it's sad that you can't fight yellow squadron when they first appear in AC4, but it's understandable since it was PA's first 3D game on a new console. they show their growth and mindfulness allowing you to absolutely smash the 8492 squadron when they show up in the next game.
Try AC0 mission 16 With the sorcerer squadron on Ace. Instead of engaging them as they come 2 by 2 fly around until all 8 of them have gathered up together and fight them all at once. Must be one of the hardest challenges in AC. They have the most aggresive AI by far
i HATE when devs make this enemy a "you must lose" scenario, why not just do it like in AC5 or Chrono trigger, the Lavos Fight you're supposed to lose, you get an alt ending by winning that, in AC5 you are recomended to run away, but if running just isnt in your vocabulary, you can still win them. Valkyrie from Armored Core 1 is another exemple, she is supposed to be an unbeatable boss, but you can get her with skill
I remember the AC4 mission. I realized pretty quickly that the game was programmed not to let you hit a Yellow on that mission. It always seemed that no matter HOW well lined up the gun shot, the reticle appeared to slip to the sides. Even ludicrously easy straight dashes.
That damned level on AC4 had me rage-restart(?) the mission because I spent so much time trying to shoot even a SINGLE Yellow down and I spent every single weapon and them mfs kept ignoring me shots. That and me not knowing where the hell AWACS was telling me to run away to lol.
I know about that scenario from Ace Combat 6, however I have yet to emulate Ace Combat 6 on my laptop and I didn't really want to use footage from other people on TH-cam (I'm the type of guy to use my own recording as much as possible for my shitposting) Planning to do it someday once all the bugs (that I've heard) from the emulation (Xenia) has been fixed and when they have an actual User Interface (Like PCXS2 or PPSSPP)
Wrong mission. Moloch desert is the one where you shoot down the strigon squadron, theres only one of them in that event thats invincible and thats to prevent you from breaking the mission by shooting them all down before the mission update occurs. You're thinking of Gracemeria, and even then you can scare off strigon squadron by shooting down 2-3 of their aircraft, even though you'll still be retreating
it hits different when you play ace combat 4 for the first time and encounter the yellow squadron . i didnt played the games chronologically ive played 7 and then jumped to 4 5 and unsung war . and before whole AC series i have played project wingman and I have spent 1 hour even trying to defeat them and eventually discovering that it is scripted iam and was dissapointed
During my first time encounter with Crimson squadron I kept fighting until I ran out of every peice of ammunition and then fled in high stakes chase. A few missikns later I decided to try that encounter again with the Harrier and managed to take one of them out, finishing thebmission.
The gratification of Beating a single final-boss-battle- Difficulty Plane from crimson squadron is the most satisfying thing youll experience in PW. Apart from One Hitting airships with the railgun.
@@DickerMax18 true, I never managed, but I think I will now, since the beta branch has seemingly updated hit detection on railguns, making them much more forgiving against large targets
@@Macintoshiba Tip: If you want an almost guaranteed 1 Tap on any Ship (Be it Land, Sea or Air) make sure to fire the Railgun at close range where the gap is wide enough to hit the Main body rather than it's defences
The difference between Ace Combat and Project Wingman in one of these situations. Ace Combat: You always fight because you can just reload your checkpoint and not lose an hour of progress. Project Wingman: Checkpoints do not exist because we wanted to add lava damage and AOA limiters instead. You should probably start running.
You vs 8492nd is just a warmup They surprise you, but they didnt broke your morale. They paid the price. You vs Crimson Team above Yellowstone is just you playing the rear gunner. You have the guts to hang around, play with them, dance with them.. until they leave disgusted that a mercenary dog managed to be on the same footing as them. You vs Yellow above Tango Line.. is a wake up call. No matter how good you are, this fight is the reminder that this is peak Yellow. The time when they are unstoppable. Mobius 1 learned it the hard way. At this stage, he is still only The Ribbon. Not yet the Grim Reaper that Erusea will come to know. So.. you have no option. You HAVE to retreat AC4 just built DIFFERENT
Yeah... Built *badly* People will rag on and on about Mihaly's invincibility while praising Yellow Squadron for being the absolute worst offender in the series about active plot armor. It's not a wake up call, it's the exact opposite. It's the game telling you "You're going to follow the script or you're going to fail the mission" Comona, Is a better showing as the Yellows are just tearing through the ISAF air defense screen, and at least react to you landing a hit... Even if their reaction is to flee from the scene like the cowards they are. And that's the big thing, the Yellows aren't anything but cowards, they only come in when they believe they can win or have no other choice, and if something happens to challenge that, they pull back. Had they stayed over Comona, the satellite never would've launched. Had they stayed during the Stonehenge offensive, they probably would've taken out the ISAF attackers, Mobius included. It's not until Emancipation where they hang around. And that's because you've rolled up to the place they're using as a hanger, kicked down the door, and rallied the people they gaslit themselves into thinking they were friends with into fighting back. Even then, Yellow 13 flees the field when he's alone. Only to come in with reserve pilots for the fight at Farbanti because there's no more room left to run, and so he dies in a fight. I do love playing AC04 but I won't act like Yellow Squadron are some great rival force.
@@paulsd9255 Honestly? Yeah. The Yellowstone missions has radio chatter that sets them up right at the start, making sure to have their AWACS mention the HVT with the Crown, but also have Crimson-1 mention that they're low on fuel and ammo, something that's reinforced two more times once they actually arrive. The fight itself it optional, and easily one of the hardest if you aren't replaying it. And the dialog going from sheer confidence on the part of the squadron, to them all realizing that Monarch is the real deal, managing to hold his own against 8 aces in an older bird. And Crimson squadron only pulls out because they're low on resources that could lead to an easy kill if they go in too deep, and the rest of the Sicarios realize it. And it's not like they can unfuck what we did to the mining operation now. So it made sense and was the reasonable play.
two sides of "developers being aware"
making them invincible
making them an alternate way to finish the level
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One is, clearly superior.
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@@WildmanTrading
The second way is so much better.
"Engagement not advised?"
"Hell, I just got here."
-Every player every time retreat is recommended
A retreat order in Ace Combat is just a launch authorization
Monarch and Prez:
*WE'RE NOT GONNA SUGARCOAT IT.*
*GUN*
*BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT*
I like that refusing to retreat in the first mission of Ace Combat 6 is the “true end” and the impetus of Colonel Voycheck’s growth
How it would end
@@Рычажный He leads Strigon, the enemy ace squadron of the game. They show up in the first mission to make sure the invasion is successful and you're supposed to run.
Fight, and whatever plane you kill will have been his, injuring him and basically stripping his wings away, and it will mean Talisman (you) made sure that he grows to become the good guy he is buy the end of the story.
He's still injured regardless, but it's nice that you can actively choose to be the reason for something to occur.
It would end if he were to actually get through in one piece. He'd never have the experience that led him to his turn, and therefore would've likely died as his replacement did: dueling you over the city when you come to retake it. The kids he helped likely would have died as well, and that has tragic implications for another character the story follows because the death of her child would've made her entire journey completely pointless.
Honestly in my first play through I couldn't really turn around until I got them off my ass anyway
Gotta love the AC4 friendlies staying with you even tho it's impossible to kill even a single yellow.
they're the best wingmen in the game
they can hold up their own and they stick with you
pixy and PJ are up there with them too
@private_ryan1755 Yeah, I even think AC4 allies actually get better the higher the difficulty because I remember trying to S rank on Ace and allies ruining my runs by stealing my kills.
Dude dumb little kid brain meant that I refused to turn tail… I just had to get better at it. Brother I spent so much time facing off against yellows I couldn’t beat 😂
@@afroamasiacai ran out of missiles as a kid.
the AC4 wingmen and PJ in Zero are surprisingly good. it's shame the one's in 7 were so bad.
Monarch: Ignores everything just to bully Crimson a little bit
Also Monarch: Steps over the red line just for the entire enemy navy/marine fleet to focus only on him.
When I saw that fleet for the first time I knew I had to come back to the mission as PW MK 1 just to say "hi there" then lock on to all of the ships "bye bye"
Honestly, the fleet itself isn't that bad. It's those F/S-15's that are the real killers.
@@VoltaicBacklash Agreed.
Unless you're on Mercenary difficulty, then every other ship has railguns and bmls
Try mercenary, with glass Cannon, speed demon, ace training, double time and random super weapons modifier for the enemies
*Only then you'll feel the true power of the Pacific federation... While your CPU and GPU are actively melting in the background...*
Ah yes, the *"sORry, my rAdIo WAs bRoKEn"* moments...
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>out numbered 8 to 1 against an elite squadron
>beat the shit out of them and nearly kill 1
>force them into retreat to prevent casualty
>"He put up a GOOD fight didn't be?"
Y'see Crimson 1, your threat assessment is the one at fault here.
You just know his squad mates were bullying the fuck out of him afterwards.
"how are you still flying monarch?"
TBH, before I watch some walkthroughs of PW, I never thought I could disengage so I took on Crimson with F-14. Took me quite a lot of jolting before I shot one down with guns cuz missile almost never hits.
Missile hits are easier with AoA. The crimson planes have a cooldown on their AoA, like you do. If you fire a missile, they use their AoA, and you use your AoA to get back in a good missile launch position, then you can usually get a missile hit after that. Or just use the harrier with its ridiculous turn radius.
High speed flybys also work, if you use flares, and run away toll about 11k distance, then turn nose on, you can get head on missile hits a lot easier than in the turn fight
The method of "firing a missile so they turn, then showering them with lead while they are semi-stationary" also work
Hit and run always works...
Your support may have left but the drive to fight never quit on you. Time to show them what you are capable of
AWACS: retreat now!
Me: *"all I'm surrounded by is fear, plot armored antagonists and dead men"*
it's sad that you can't fight yellow squadron when they first appear in AC4, but it's understandable since it was PA's first 3D game on a new console. they show their growth and mindfulness allowing you to absolutely smash the 8492 squadron when they show up in the next game.
Retreat?, oh please 🙄, I'm gonna chase you into hell if it's necessary 👹, only for my squad to leave here secure.
- *Gryphus 1*
Like any good Guardsman...we _hold the goddamn line!_
8492nd Squadron dogfight was where I went to test if I was getting better at the game.
Try AC0 mission 16 With the sorcerer squadron on Ace. Instead of engaging them as they come 2 by 2 fly around until all 8 of them have gathered up together and fight them all at once. Must be one of the hardest challenges in AC. They have the most aggresive AI by far
Finally someone uses "in the zone" as it should be used
Joint assault was such a weird game.
Not even the devs use it correctly. I was hoping the track would play when you kick Sulejmani's ass
@@pavise6333 doesn't it play in that Egypt mission and without any real reason?
@@battedbook5811 That and the assault on that airfield in Nevada. It literally plays only on ground attack missions.
i HATE when devs make this enemy a "you must lose" scenario, why not just do it like in AC5 or Chrono trigger, the Lavos Fight you're supposed to lose, you get an alt ending by winning that, in AC5 you are recomended to run away, but if running just isnt in your vocabulary, you can still win them.
Valkyrie from Armored Core 1 is another exemple, she is supposed to be an unbeatable boss, but you can get her with skill
Gotta love the soundtrack
So many memories
Basically saying "We're gonna skip the whole air campaign and win the air war right here, right now" lol
Man I’ve watched this soo many times.
You definitely deserve a sub and I’d love to see videos similar to this
I’ll be damned if I’m just gonna run away while the yellows murder my defenseless allies over that petrochemical plant 😤
I remember the AC4 mission. I realized pretty quickly that the game was programmed not to let you hit a Yellow on that mission. It always seemed that no matter HOW well lined up the gun shot, the reticle appeared to slip to the sides. Even ludicrously easy straight dashes.
That damned level on AC4 had me rage-restart(?) the mission because I spent so much time trying to shoot even a SINGLE Yellow down and I spent every single weapon and them mfs kept ignoring me shots.
That and me not knowing where the hell AWACS was telling me to run away to lol.
"I just got here, im not done yet" -Monarch
ACX2 my beloved
ANTARES SQUADRON LAUNCH
@@j-aaxch9658 Like a minute later
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With all its flaws, it's still the best multiplayer in any AC game. It's the hill I'm willing to die on
If god did not want me to try and kill these guys he should've made me retreat in a cutscene.
They said the Mission was accomplished, not the job
Missed opportunity to add "Moloch desert" from Ace Combat 6
I know about that scenario from Ace Combat 6, however I have yet to emulate Ace Combat 6 on my laptop and I didn't really want to use footage from other people on TH-cam (I'm the type of guy to use my own recording as much as possible for my shitposting)
Planning to do it someday once all the bugs (that I've heard) from the emulation (Xenia) has been fixed and when they have an actual User Interface (Like PCXS2 or PPSSPP)
Wrong mission. Moloch desert is the one where you shoot down the strigon squadron, theres only one of them in that event thats invincible and thats to prevent you from breaking the mission by shooting them all down before the mission update occurs. You're thinking of Gracemeria, and even then you can scare off strigon squadron by shooting down 2-3 of their aircraft, even though you'll still be retreating
Oh hi count
Honestly wish AC7 had one of these moments, it would've made the game so much better
it hits different when you play ace combat 4 for the first time and encounter the yellow squadron .
i didnt played the games chronologically
ive played 7 and then jumped to 4 5 and unsung war . and before whole AC series i have played project wingman
and I have spent 1 hour even trying to defeat them
and eventually discovering that it is scripted
iam and was dissapointed
During my first time encounter with Crimson squadron I kept fighting until I ran out of every peice of ammunition and then fled in high stakes chase. A few missikns later I decided to try that encounter again with the Harrier and managed to take one of them out, finishing thebmission.
honestly a gigachad move being told to retreat and refusing and shooting down the enemy
The gratification of Beating a single final-boss-battle- Difficulty Plane from crimson squadron is the most satisfying thing youll experience in PW. Apart from One Hitting airships with the railgun.
Forget the Dopamine with One-tapping Airships with Railgun
You obviously haven't One-tapped a Landship without ever hitting it's defences yet
@@DickerMax18 true, I never managed, but I think I will now, since the beta branch has seemingly updated hit detection on railguns, making them much more forgiving against large targets
@@Macintoshiba Tip: If you want an almost guaranteed 1 Tap on any Ship (Be it Land, Sea or Air) make sure to fire the Railgun at close range where the gap is wide enough to hit the Main body rather than it's defences
Crazy how the fights all look pretty similar despite being form 3 separate games.
Say what you want about Ace Combat X²: Joint Assault, but its soundtrack is excellent.
“I am no coward… I will fight till my last breath…”
IN THE ZONE!!!
Id like to think if they did have yellow damageable, itd be like crimson where if you down 1 yellow 13 tells his squad to withdraw
i always took that belkans in AC5 personally
First time 8492 with A-10 PTSD intensifies.
You will have to work harder to make me leave:
bro they just split remembers me of sol squadron
Mihaly (Sol 1) was Yellow 13's mentor
@@DickerMax18 yeah i know that
[[ ENGAGEMENT NOT ADVISED]]
woe is me, for i have lost the ability to read
The difference between Ace Combat and Project Wingman in one of these situations.
Ace Combat: You always fight because you can just reload your checkpoint and not lose an hour of progress.
Project Wingman: Checkpoints do not exist because we wanted to add lava damage and AOA limiters instead. You should probably start running.
yeah no i am not running
i may be in a SU 25 that is out ammo for the main gun and uses only anti ground missiles, but you can bet i'm not running
F14 with AOA ?
what mod are you using i want that shit now
www.nexusmods.com/projectwingman/mods/32
@@DickerMax18 a little late but thanks
You vs 8492nd is just a warmup
They surprise you, but they didnt broke your morale. They paid the price.
You vs Crimson Team above Yellowstone is just you playing the rear gunner. You have the guts to hang around, play with them, dance with them.. until they leave disgusted that a mercenary dog managed to be on the same footing as them.
You vs Yellow above Tango Line.. is a wake up call. No matter how good you are, this fight is the reminder that this is peak Yellow. The time when they are unstoppable. Mobius 1 learned it the hard way. At this stage, he is still only The Ribbon. Not yet the Grim Reaper that Erusea will come to know. So.. you have no option. You HAVE to retreat
AC4 just built DIFFERENT
You vs Yellow is just Mihaly's "non-critical area" shit but without even that slim justification.
Yeah... Built *badly*
People will rag on and on about Mihaly's invincibility while praising Yellow Squadron for being the absolute worst offender in the series about active plot armor.
It's not a wake up call, it's the exact opposite. It's the game telling you "You're going to follow the script or you're going to fail the mission" Comona, Is a better showing as the Yellows are just tearing through the ISAF air defense screen, and at least react to you landing a hit... Even if their reaction is to flee from the scene like the cowards they are.
And that's the big thing, the Yellows aren't anything but cowards, they only come in when they believe they can win or have no other choice, and if something happens to challenge that, they pull back. Had they stayed over Comona, the satellite never would've launched. Had they stayed during the Stonehenge offensive, they probably would've taken out the ISAF attackers, Mobius included. It's not until Emancipation where they hang around. And that's because you've rolled up to the place they're using as a hanger, kicked down the door, and rallied the people they gaslit themselves into thinking they were friends with into fighting back. Even then, Yellow 13 flees the field when he's alone. Only to come in with reserve pilots for the fight at Farbanti because there's no more room left to run, and so he dies in a fight.
I do love playing AC04 but I won't act like Yellow Squadron are some great rival force.
@@jadonking5404 AC04 built deficient
@@jadonking5404 Does that mean that Crimson Squadron are basically a better written Yellow Squadron, except Crimson 1 is Torres-level insane?
@@paulsd9255 Honestly? Yeah.
The Yellowstone missions has radio chatter that sets them up right at the start, making sure to have their AWACS mention the HVT with the Crown, but also have Crimson-1 mention that they're low on fuel and ammo, something that's reinforced two more times once they actually arrive.
The fight itself it optional, and easily one of the hardest if you aren't replaying it. And the dialog going from sheer confidence on the part of the squadron, to them all realizing that Monarch is the real deal, managing to hold his own against 8 aces in an older bird.
And Crimson squadron only pulls out because they're low on resources that could lead to an easy kill if they go in too deep, and the rest of the Sicarios realize it. And it's not like they can unfuck what we did to the mining operation now. So it made sense and was the reasonable play.
cringy song
Didn't ask
No one asked, bitch
either this is bait or you're objectively wrong
💩 music...
Mald
Cope and seethe.