Fun fact, even before the DLC dropped, the debriefing maps from Midnight’s Light to Consequences of Power do show Cascadia both invading and taking over territory in Magadan and then losing the Bering Strait and some territory in Alaska, lining up with the DLC story. D2 did plan some of this story in advance. 👀
I think FAN said it wasn’t specifically planned, but the fact the Cascadians launched a failed invasion of Magadan was an existing plot hook that could be expanded into a mini-campaign.
Yeah...i was so surprise that cascadians manage to pull off, considering that they are a rebel army, that that i thought i was going to go up there at some point.
This explains why Stardust was desperate for Hitman Team and what remained of Sicario. General Faust took a good chunk of the Cascadian and mercenary manpower on her crusade.
Fanfic: Some cif officers talking eachother on the outskirts of the destroyed presidia after kings. : So we just lost our diplomatic airship fleet and the marines division because of a religious crazed general. : Yeah, it suck we could have captured presidia easily before this happen or... prospero wouldn't have happen ever. :Well here comes the new mercenary legions to cope up our loss. : Also Just imagine explaining Sicario what really happened in magadan, maybe Woodward and Stardust but I doubt they will say it.
Considering how the one time someone (within the Peacekeepers, no less) did something behind Crimson 1's back, not only did the Second Calamity ensue as a direct result but the entire war also ended VERY poorly and out of control for the Federation as a whole, it would probably have been for the best.
It's interesting that Steel 1 was referred to as "your highness." Does this mean that the Peacekeepers have actual royalty among them? That's gotta complicate the command structure
@@alexanderthegreat6682 That would also explain why Crimson 1, despite being a frontline soldier, has so much authority that only the very top of the Federation military has some control over them.
One part that makes the refusal of the ceasefire hit so hard is that for the first time in the series there isnt priorty targets to destroy. It genuinely requires complete descruction of enemy forces. Something that even playing as *mercs* was merely an option for pay in every mission.
@@lost4356 Didnt Crimson do that? i remember they killed the officer in charge because he refused to nuke...as far i remember that wasnt a decision make by the federation but by Crimson
@@matiassacchelli8440 what mission tho? Because Prospero is nuked by federation and in presidia the one who surrender is officer in there not the whole federation. Their HQ C.K and their big state still active like Ulaanbaatar. Federation not just presidia but almost the entire world kneel to Federation. That why they nuked presidia to prevent another uprising.
Remember at the end of the Liberation of Presidia, the captain of the Eminent Domain watches the last of the Federation occupation forces fleeing the docks? I bet he was thinking back to the slaughter on the shores of Magadan.
He begged the federation fleet to not engage and stop the bloodshed in the previous mission. So sad for that guy, hope the crew managed to abandon the ship when Crimson 1 decided to blast Presidia
CK Denying the request is so cold and badass i swear. Also the theme holy shit Also i hope there'll be more Feds POV missions, like this "prequel/sequel/midquel?" just cut off to a glitchy ending that the true PW story has now been started. Kinda want more Feds POV in the PW story or more K-9A missions
You and me both, man. I really, REALLY want a Federation-aligned sequel where we save the Pacific Federation. Maybe have Driver become a full Peacekeeper with his own squadron.
It is, the dialogue and this track line up fairly consistently on multiple runs I've done. At least this first part and the part where CW denies the surrender request.
And once more, the Federation shows its bloody fist...something tells me Trigger blunting their airship fleet didn't help with that. There's that Deal again...
Don't forget that a couple of days ago in-universe, the Cascadians ran down a similar Federation retreat, only stopped when they outright surrendered, and the Feds in said retreat were worried about the Cascadians summarily executing them. Open Season happens a couple of days before Magadan Front. Couple that with the fact that the people Woodward is trying to evacuate are the Black Eagles Division - the same guys who just spent the better part of a month skull-fucking Magadan, and going by the News broadcast we get in M4, have been getting their murder-boner on in addition to destroying the energy infrastructure.
@@abloodraven3856 So from the Federation's POV we're not fighting soldiers, we're fighting monsters. I can see why they would deny a retreat. The Federation wanted payback.
Cracked the widest smile when Crystal Kingdom denied the cessation of hostilities starting at 9:37. You don't invade peoples' home and expect to come out unbloodied, mate.
@@jewchini6261it wasn't on their accord though, Fed and CIF was so close on signing in official ceasefire before they dropped the anticlimactic anime battle
Love the sound design of this level. Especially on the part where Woodward asked the Feds for a ceasefire just because Faust ditched them and he had to get the Cascadians who didn't join her out of Magadan.
Yes, the Deal was known to a number of the Cascadian higher ups for at least a week leading up to the Prospero disaster. That incident simply expedited the process of the Deal being presented
Mission 11 Cold War in the base game is a reflection of this war as a whole. There is no turning back, just escalation after escalation, until both sides doubled down on the table. Either the last of you die, or you kill them all.
I honestly wish we can get these missions in the PC version of PW as a DLC. Locking it behind the PlayStation is just a dick move for us players who play on our PC.
It seems to be timed exclusive because they cant talk about it’s future in other platforms yet. Sony paid for this DLC from the looks of it and is not part of the Kickstarter planed or promised content so I wouldn’t be too upset yet.
@@TITANxRaven_Gaming Be advised that if people do that it'll get taken off of mod sites because it's stealing content, basically pirating. It really sucks that PC has to wait for it, but I am ECSTATIC that it finally came to PS5.
that was the moment. when captain of eminent domain ask for temporary truce, that was the moment the federation have chance to have a goodguy moment. but alas. the war keep going. and not even the driver ask why contniue
Meh, allowing enemy to retreat would be stupid. Those soldiers won't be retiring, they will keep fighting elsewhere. If Woodward or Marine CO refuses to surrender, kill them so they won't be able to fight you in the future.
@@TheCobra114-o5eTo be honest, Captain Woodward only asked for them to allow the remaining Cascadian soldiers to be withdrawn. He never mentioned anything about keeping them out of the war in Cascadia itself, which was the Federation's priority no. 1.
The ending to PW may have made me feel hollow, despite how much fun the game is, but this mission is the one that i actually struggle to complete. Not from difficulty, but the morality
Never should’ve invaded Magadan in the first place when your whole objective was to achieve independence from the Feds. That and the destruction of energy plants in Magadan.
I like the Peacekeeper group name drops. I would be interested to see the franchise turn into a bunch of lads picking off each of these PK groups one by one. Since the Federation was in ruin after Cascadia's breakaway, I wouldn't be surprised to see conflict break out in the Federation with the PK groups as the main leverage in the skies. Essentially, I'm saying that Project Wingman could become a franchise of a bunch of lads singlehandedly tearing the Federation apart piece by piece.
Yeah we get that plane super early, but then again this set of missions is only 6 missions long and has its own unlock system and not the same one as the main campaign
Not really, the Feds surrendered in the end and it was honored. No surrender would be honored here, sending dogs on the CIF, mixing white phosphorus and cordium to incinerate their fleeing enemy, and the manipulation of a good intentioned ceasefire to reveal the positions of fleeing CIF. Cruelty for the sake of cruelty. The Feds had already won and were prolonging the fighting after the proposed ceasefire, risking the lives of their own men on the ground just to add to the slaughter. Captain Woodward made the right call to try to save the men he'd been handed by Faust as she abandoned her post. If only more officers were like him there would be a lot less bloodshed and possibly an expedited end to the conflict.
Project Wingman isn't a spinoff of Ace Combat, but is heavily inspired by it. It was made by 3 people who were big Ace Combat fans, and PW is basically a love letter to Ace Combat. Very similar, yet very different but in a good way :)
Depends on if Driver has more experience than he lets on. Otherwise, Monarch probably bodies through shear experience edge as a mercenary would have way more air hours. Prez wins WSO tho; would have handled Monarch through that tunnel like a champ.
Fun fact, even before the DLC dropped, the debriefing maps from Midnight’s Light to Consequences of Power do show Cascadia both invading and taking over territory in Magadan and then losing the Bering Strait and some territory in Alaska, lining up with the DLC story.
D2 did plan some of this story in advance. 👀
Glad to hear, was worried Faust was the token evil splinter group created to make things more gray vs. gray.
I think FAN said it wasn’t specifically planned, but the fact the Cascadians launched a failed invasion of Magadan was an existing plot hook that could be expanded into a mini-campaign.
wow I did not know that! how awesome!
Yeah...i was so surprise that cascadians manage to pull off, considering that they are a rebel army, that that i thought i was going to go up there at some point.
I wonder if the original mission 12 "Worldshell" was going to be the invasion of magadan
This explains why Stardust was desperate for Hitman Team and what remained of Sicario.
General Faust took a good chunk of the Cascadian and mercenary manpower on her crusade.
Fanfic: Some cif officers talking eachother on the outskirts of the destroyed presidia after kings.
: So we just lost our diplomatic airship fleet and the marines division because of a religious crazed general.
: Yeah, it suck we could have captured presidia easily before this happen or... prospero wouldn't have happen ever.
:Well here comes the new mercenary legions to cope up our loss.
: Also Just imagine explaining Sicario what really happened in magadan, maybe Woodward and Stardust but I doubt they will say it.
This also explains why capt woodward is so suicidal during the blockade and presidia missions
Too many lives were lost under his command
I love how it's aknowledged that NOBODY can say no to crimson
Bro is literally Darth Vader to them lmao
Considering how the one time someone (within the Peacekeepers, no less) did something behind Crimson 1's back, not only did the Second Calamity ensue as a direct result but the entire war also ended VERY poorly and out of control for the Federation as a whole, it would probably have been for the best.
It's interesting that Steel 1 was referred to as "your highness." Does this mean that the Peacekeepers have actual royalty among them? That's gotta complicate the command structure
@@alexanderthegreat6682 That would also explain why Crimson 1, despite being a frontline soldier, has so much authority that only the very top of the Federation military has some control over them.
@@robbieaulia6462 true, but with steel squadrons leader having the tag PKP instead of PK for peacekeeper, I’m not sure about it
Cascadian Command: let us off Magadan pweeaase 🙏🥺
Crystal Kingdom: lmao no, kill them all
K-9: sir yes sir, glory to the Federation
FOR THE FEDERATION!
@@TITANxRaven_Gaming raaaah, death to 30 morbillion Cascadians!!!
Hilarious to think about when they broker a ceasefire later in the story.
To be fair that was already a ceasefire signed by both sides, this was just a request so they didn't even had to listen to them.
Pax Federation
9:57 The coldest line in the entire DLC. Right here
Badass fr
It really helps that the music was swelling up to that point. Savage moment.
One part that makes the refusal of the ceasefire hit so hard is that for the first time in the series there isnt priorty targets to destroy. It genuinely requires complete descruction of enemy forces. Something that even playing as *mercs* was merely an option for pay in every mission.
The same Side who choose to nuke their place rather than get separated.
Kid named Cold War first phase
@@lost4356 Didnt Crimson do that? i remember they killed the officer in charge because he refused to nuke...as far i remember that wasnt a decision make by the federation but by Crimson
@@matiassacchelli8440 what mission tho? Because Prospero is nuked by federation and in presidia the one who surrender is officer in there not the whole federation. Their HQ C.K and their big state still active like Ulaanbaatar.
Federation not just presidia but almost the entire world kneel to Federation. That why they nuked presidia to prevent another uprising.
@@strider117aldo9 **cough*Transport planes*cough**
Woodward: Please let us leave, we've lost
Crystal Kingdom: Lol, lmao
Mission 5: Are we BOTH the baddies?
Remember at the end of the Liberation of Presidia, the captain of the Eminent Domain watches the last of the Federation occupation forces fleeing the docks?
I bet he was thinking back to the slaughter on the shores of Magadan.
He begged the federation fleet to not engage and stop the bloodshed in the previous mission. So sad for that guy, hope the crew managed to abandon the ship when Crimson 1 decided to blast Presidia
@@LoScorpioneRosso1it's confirmed on mercenary ending that Woodward and his crew survived, the eminent domain is unfortunately though.
@@Bruh-td7ex I'm glad he survived, I didn't recognize his voice probably. What was his line ?
@@LoScorpioneRosso1 they are setting the skies on fire something.
Just like how the Federation soldiers remembered the massacre over the Bering Strait. Of course, not like Cas-lovers care.
sir yes sir glory to the federation
As someone that mains the Emmerian Emblem in Ace Combat 7 I'm glad we get to play as the Federation 😂
CK Denying the request is so cold and badass i swear. Also the theme holy shit
Also i hope there'll be more Feds POV missions, like this "prequel/sequel/midquel?" just cut off to a glitchy ending that the true PW story has now been started. Kinda want more Feds POV in the PW story or more K-9A missions
I’m thinking a Cascadian/Federation PoV for Oceania.
You and me both, man. I really, REALLY want a Federation-aligned sequel where we save the Pacific Federation. Maybe have Driver become a full Peacekeeper with his own squadron.
@@Betrix5060 probably Driver as the protag on the feds' side, with some other guy for cascadians (maybe Crimson?) & cabal
4:45
the way the music lines up with this dialogue so perfectly HAS to be intentional.
It is, the dialogue and this track line up fairly consistently on multiple runs I've done. At least this first part and the part where CW denies the surrender request.
"From the dust i came and to dust i shall return" damn amen to that
Hearing about a grenade right after that hits different though...
May i say Pixy famous word?
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And once more, the Federation shows its bloody fist...something tells me Trigger blunting their airship fleet didn't help with that.
There's that Deal again...
Don't you mean Monarch?
Don't forget that a couple of days ago in-universe, the Cascadians ran down a similar Federation retreat, only stopped when they outright surrendered, and the Feds in said retreat were worried about the Cascadians summarily executing them. Open Season happens a couple of days before Magadan Front.
Couple that with the fact that the people Woodward is trying to evacuate are the Black Eagles Division - the same guys who just spent the better part of a month skull-fucking Magadan, and going by the News broadcast we get in M4, have been getting their murder-boner on in addition to destroying the energy infrastructure.
@@abloodraven3856oh sir yes sir, glory to the federation.
@@abloodraven3856 So from the Federation's POV we're not fighting soldiers, we're fighting monsters.
I can see why they would deny a retreat. The Federation wanted payback.
Five days, but yea@@abloodraven3856
"There is no mercy." -crystal kingdom, probably.
@@katanafourzeroninethey do take prisoners
@@jimiacuwhg3836in the DLC only? I don't recall anyone taking POWS in base game
Not for those murderers who gleefully ruined so many innocent people's lives out of sadistic hatred.
Cracked the widest smile when Crystal Kingdom denied the cessation of hostilities starting at 9:37. You don't invade peoples' home and expect to come out unbloodied, mate.
Well it did come back to bite them in the ass after they nuked Presidia
@jewchini6261 didn't C1 do 2nd nuke attack on his own accord?
@@jewchini6261it wasn't on their accord though, Fed and CIF was so close on signing in official ceasefire before they dropped the anticlimactic anime battle
8:20
And this is when the Federation's rage begins. Great job, Faust.
When the RTO said Crystal Kingdom Denies the Request He was so Cold with the dialouge
the quiet part of the battle until it starts building up to resume hostilities was so insanely good
Love the sound design of this level. Especially on the part where Woodward asked the Feds for a ceasefire just because Faust ditched them and he had to get the Cascadians who didn't join her out of Magadan.
"Crystal Kingdom denies the request."
Yeah, that's gonna come back to bite them. Doesn't make it any less chilling.
6:57
I don’t know why but with this line I have a feeling that Faust knew Stardust will give Sicario “the deal”
Yes, the Deal was known to a number of the Cascadian higher ups for at least a week leading up to the Prospero disaster. That incident simply expedited the process of the Deal being presented
Mission 11 Cold War in the base game is a reflection of this war as a whole.
There is no turning back, just escalation after escalation, until both sides doubled down on the table.
Either the last of you die, or you kill them all.
I honestly wish we can get these missions in the PC version of PW as a DLC. Locking it behind the PlayStation is just a dick move for us players who play on our PC.
The devs got their well-earned bag at least, but I'm sure there will be a port figured out by the PC community here soon
@@TITANxRaven_Gamingor maybe another feds mission based on a whole different unique Fed squadron. Or maybe... a whole new PK Squadron FOV?
It seems to be timed exclusive because they cant talk about it’s future in other platforms yet.
Sony paid for this DLC from the looks of it and is not part of the Kickstarter planed or promised content so I wouldn’t be too upset yet.
@@TITANxRaven_Gaming Be advised that if people do that it'll get taken off of mod sites because it's stealing content, basically pirating. It really sucks that PC has to wait for it, but I am ECSTATIC that it finally came to PS5.
that was the moment. when captain of eminent domain ask for temporary truce, that was the moment the federation have chance to have a goodguy moment. but alas. the war keep going. and not even the driver ask why contniue
A reminder the the day after they launch nukes to Prospero. Even if they had a good guy moment, it would’ve immediately been vaporized lol
@@DiogenesTheCynic.Yep 😂
I suddenly feel patriotic for the Federation
Ahhh, a good way to relax with some PW and fed massacres of marines who just want to go home after blatantly refusing a ceasefire
We love us some warcrimes!
Meh, allowing enemy to retreat would be stupid. Those soldiers won't be retiring, they will keep fighting elsewhere. If Woodward or Marine CO refuses to surrender, kill them so they won't be able to fight you in the future.
@@kesmeseker9593 I mean, killing off dudes who can’t really fight back after denying a ceasefire is damn close to a war crime
@@TheCobra114-o5eTo be honest, Captain Woodward only asked for them to allow the remaining Cascadian soldiers to be withdrawn. He never mentioned anything about keeping them out of the war in Cascadia itself, which was the Federation's priority no. 1.
@@CrystalKingdomGeneral4942 fair point
The ending to PW may have made me feel hollow, despite how much fun the game is, but this mission is the one that i actually struggle to complete. Not from difficulty, but the morality
K9A Driver: “Good soldiers follow orders. Good soldiers follow orders. Good soldiers follow orders…” 😈😈😈
BLAST HIM!
man what a great mission. Defending your own land never felt so evil.
6:54 that line had the same energy as "What do you know of beauty?!?"
Never should’ve invaded Magadan in the first place when your whole objective was to achieve independence from the Feds. That and the destruction of energy plants in Magadan.
federation justified. glory to the federation.
Pax Federation
PAX FEDERATION!
I'm the Federation's #1 guy.
I assume 'Khan' must be Steel 1.
man I thought "World on Fire" was a final boss fight soundtrack
I like the Peacekeeper group name drops. I would be interested to see the franchise turn into a bunch of lads picking off each of these PK groups one by one.
Since the Federation was in ruin after Cascadia's breakaway, I wouldn't be surprised to see conflict break out in the Federation with the PK groups as the main leverage in the skies.
Essentially, I'm saying that Project Wingman could become a franchise of a bunch of lads singlehandedly tearing the Federation apart piece by piece.
I couldn't bring myself to destroy those landers.
But the extra points!
wow the VX23 already?
Yeah we get that plane super early, but then again this set of missions is only 6 missions long and has its own unlock system and not the same one as the main campaign
Just like the Ace Combat 7 PS4 VR Exclusive?
This mission happened 5 days after Open Season.
Does kind of give you a bit of juxtaposition in regards to surrender declarations.
Not really, the Feds surrendered in the end and it was honored. No surrender would be honored here, sending dogs on the CIF, mixing white phosphorus and cordium to incinerate their fleeing enemy, and the manipulation of a good intentioned ceasefire to reveal the positions of fleeing CIF. Cruelty for the sake of cruelty.
The Feds had already won and were prolonging the fighting after the proposed ceasefire, risking the lives of their own men on the ground just to add to the slaughter.
Captain Woodward made the right call to try to save the men he'd been handed by Faust as she abandoned her post. If only more officers were like him there would be a lot less bloodshed and possibly an expedited end to the conflict.
@@Taz_XE076 Ummm... the first two words in your post kinda contradicts the entire rest of it.
THE MUSIC THO
So good bruh
I wonder why stardust is ordering faust even though faust is a general and stardust is a captain
Heck, I'd yell at Faust too because her plan is the entire reason everyone in Magadan was killed and the Orange incident happened
This game looks amazing!
Is this an Ace Combat spinoff?
Even the voice actors remind me of that game
Project Wingman isn't a spinoff of Ace Combat, but is heavily inspired by it. It was made by 3 people who were big Ace Combat fans, and PW is basically a love letter to Ace Combat. Very similar, yet very different but in a good way :)
Tbh if it wasnt for Faust and her terrible decisions, Casscadia couldve won the war a lot sooner. Not to mention, not have lost all those good troops
Driver vs Monarch, thoughts?
Look in a mirror 😂
both probably go awol to settle their old businesses alone
Depends on if Driver has more experience than he lets on. Otherwise, Monarch probably bodies through shear experience edge as a mercenary would have way more air hours.
Prez wins WSO tho; would have handled Monarch through that tunnel like a champ.