Sword and Steel did a good video attacking the Custodes nonsense from a female POV. I believe she runs a store that sells GW product so was taking a risk.
Yeah Ikr 😀 That was such a nice surprise when I saw that video. I've only seen that video but she seemed genuine, just like this guy I'm watching right now. Also a first.
Wasn't Valrak blacklisted by Games Workshop because they hated the fact he had become a hub for company leaks that more often than not turned out to be true?
Don't bring facts to this argument. If you don't say he's a shill (even though there is ZERO evidence of that and in fact quite a bit he is not) you're an LBGTQXYZJKL wokehammer sympathizer.
Majorcringe never really cared that much about the game or lore. He admitted so himself one time. He jumped on the boat and became a porn peddling 40k dudebro. Funny how many people got fooled. Even he himself got so much of his own bullshit that he wanted to start attacking other creators. That was fun.
Valrak is i say a bit different since he has always been a fanboy and i respect him for not changing too much and also he has criticized a lot of the erda bs and the books. But majorkill and luetin have forgotten their identity. MajorKill is a big example... since he went from more edge and stupid content to full shill
Same Still, it's nice that everyone is on board now. I feel like I've been shouting at clouds since they quietly desexualised daemonettes of Slaanesh, then retconned the scattering of the Primarchs. DEI by a thousand cuts.
@sparkeykills1 yea. They have basically made a business out of their channels so they are not just gonna walk away from making content. I'm sure nothing will change and GW will probably get a little more popular until they eventually fall from grace like Star Wars and Marvel but on a smaller scale until nobody cares. Hey at least we save time and money. Not gonna try and hate to much tho it's just my time has finally come to separate from the hobby until something changes. For people who still enjoy 40k that's good for them I guess.
Honestly, the creators (be it painting tips, kitbash showcaser and the like) that deliberately are avoiding the situation and are noncomittal in their stance I don't really have a problem with, it's just the cost of being reliant on GWs "good graces". However, the ones that have fully on doubled down and are going hardcore with the bootlicking of GW and/or labels and ad-hom attacks on everyone who disagree are the creators that I'm straight up putting on a mental list to avoid interaction with and never give them a single view ever again.
@@NobleshieldAnd just maybe, maybe, as bad as the writing is, maybe we're right in making things diverse? Personally wouldn't want this change myself, like a lot of people, but my gripe is when yall freak over the perceived politics rather than the bad writing. You do realise all these right wing channels are being paid to talk about 40k like another? It's just another right wing ploy you're happy to fall for because you agree in part with the sentiment of 'women can't be in this faction' when they kinda can because it's fantasy and they're not even space marines, so the process is different. It's a retcon, suck it up or move on, don't force your bullshit politics into it though. This is Corporatism in a nutshell, following trends
@@TurbanCatMccoy I'm not so sure. I've seen people get riled up over all kinds of stupid things, but with this it seems more like a final straw situation than a self-contained event. Like if this happened in a vacuum no one would be that bothered, but its the last in a long line of social progressiveness in the lore since 2021? I don't know myself but its a point I've heard repeated a lot.
“Making things diverse”……. Do you actually read the lore or will you ignore that 40k is diverse already? Asian space marines, female-only military orders, black people in many chapters and the guard, the list goes on.
Anybody that expects a symbiotic leech to take a stand, realize that GW has them elbow deep, Kermit the frog style. It’s not that the content creators are woke, it’s because they are weak. That’s what I think for myself, as instructed. 😂
thing is the games who just quit 40k will no longer buy miniatures, or watch the TV show, and they are not coming back, GW has lost part of its market worth billions in long term profit, not only that but their kids will grow up playing D£ath Fields, Frostgrave and Bolt Action.
I unsubbed from Majorkill. He used to be pretty funny, but the writing was on the wall when he stopped with his "Timmy" character. Clearly told to clean up his act by GW in order to bypass their legal department. The guy seems more interested in selling his cartoon po rn anyway.
I honestly feel like you contradicted yourself there. You think GW actually made him kill the Timmy bit, but is cool with him SELLING Warhammer inspired porn? Come on man, that just doesn't make sense.
@@Freefall347 It makes perfect sense. His Timmy character was there for all to see; the Hentai behind a paywall. GW is all about visible brand image. Besides which, Timmy was essentially questioning from the perspective of someone who was concerned with the minutiae of the law : back when GW acted like they cared about it too. That's pretty much mocking the gatekeepers who kept the company afloat, until BR and Bezos got their claws into it.
What's ironic is valrak is on gws shitlist. Probably cause his "rumors" turn out to be true too much. But yeah he'll never criticis gw on this. Ever. Even though they blacklisted him.
I find myself within a realm where external opinions hold little sway over my actions. It's a realization that everyone harbours their unique perspectives, and I don't feel compelled to impede that. However, it's noteworthy that many prominent content creators are bound by non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) with Games Workshop. One such agreement was inadvertently revealed some time back, elucidating stringent clauses that effectively inhibit dissent or criticism toward the company. This arrangement facilitates their access to pre-release review copies of codex books and models, granting them a competitive edge.
I suspect a lot of content creators might have somewhat of a similar relationship to GW as game "journalists" have with gaming companies etc. This probably most applies to the ones showcasing games online though admittedly.
Well said. I agree with you. I'll fight with GW, not those who support their choices. I can't do the vectorial. Also, I feel its better to try talking things out like a rational adult. A possible solution, GW could have saved themselves some heartache by saying this female Custodian was a proof of concept or a contingency plan. Explains why she's never been seen nor left Earth. Just hope Amazon don't buy GW.
I still watch the big name channels like Majorkill and Valrak because I enjoy their style of content. I dont like to let my POV be spoiled by a few bad habits/takes from the youtuber. Also, Arch is still pretty solid for those who dont know.
What are you even talking about? Hellstorm Gaming used to work for Games Workshop and criticises them all the time. Chapter Master Valrak does say when he doesnt like things that GW does. Do you even watch these peoples content? You say you don't want to keep beating a dead horse, then why do you keep talking about this? You've said what you've had to say on the topic several videos ago. Why dont you talk about something hobby related that you do like? There must be something, instead of you dwelling in this negativity.
The lore channels that are for the change or sitting on the fence is the worst bit from the youtuber side. Atleast when GW brought out the new marines they made some lore to back it up and didn't just tell us that they have always been there.
Here is a thought for all of you guys, Me personally understand the "bigger" channels not saying anything or much at all. They have bills to pay like the rest of us. When was the last time a creator's actions ever changed a corporation's way of ruining it's business? Never is the answer. The corporation either changed because of fans or people or they just went out of business over time. I say give the creator's a break and watch or listen to what they put out in the first place, that is why you watch them. Just don't support the corp.
For me the issue is I no longer care to give GW because they've made it clear that the lore doesn't matter. I therefore don't want to invest in the setting or the product. As far as woke vs non woke - the woke side hates me just for exiting - so it's obvious who to side with.
I really appreciate your intro. I honestly feel like I'm being greeted every time. It's super nice. I also appreciate that you ARE a small channel and can say how you actually feel, rather than having to shill whatever product or concept is going to keep the free swag flowing. Clout farming is lame.
Auspex Tactics prob had the best diplomatic but honest response. Which was wise, even though i prefer the more brutal respinse calling GW out on it's BS
What a interesting find about the social media person. Very nicely done. Unfortunately by doing that excellent work you MADE ME subscribe to your channel.
Will you say the same thing when the Dark Angels get the same treatment? Amazon decides to make a movie about the DA, and it's focused on a 3 female DA? None of them wear helmets because otherwise the audience wouldn't see that they are female...... great idea? Just curious.
@@davidea12valrak was given lots of info since when he was a small 10k channel. DOUBT it has been gw all this time... and he is sometimes wrong sometimes right
@@Ewil.Bluetooth I don't like the woke BS any more than you do. I'm just tired of all this click bait BS coming up on my feed. I have watched Valrak for a long time. He's not shilling for GW. Believe all the conspiracy theory BS you want to. The CFO RETIRED. She was planned to retire for over a year but all these click baiters talk about her like she's jumping a sinking ship. It's a load of crap. GW has taken tons of backlash, including me. I canceled my WH+ subscription over the female custodes crap. Hopefully they see the writing on the wall. I just can't stand all this pissing down my leg telling me it's raining by YT'ers looking for clicks.
Of course, shills will gladly get on their knees. However, why did these creators make their channel? Was it for the company? How did they get access to the company? Was it because of the fans? All it does is show your true character if you piss on the people that raised you up just to be on your knees begging for "access"
If you're going to believe anyone, make it someone like Arch who is "persona non grata" with the jack boots over at GW. I'm sure there are others. Look for who GW actively hates, and they've probably got some truths to tell.
I don't think these youtubers are doing damage control to be in good graces with GW. It's only that at this point they are just too attached to warhammer as content creators. They can't just say "I quit warhammer" without having to start from square one with a different game.
To be fair, Valrak went as far as saying he thinks the way GW handled this is crap. But as you've pointed out in the video, I don't blame him or others for either not discussing it (Rho) or not coming down hard on either side (Valrak, Majorkill). I'm not sure it's because they are trying to be all buddy-buddy with GW (the latter two have criticised GW in the past, including recently), but I get that they are in essence a brand of their own now, as you say - they don't want to divide their fanbase, cause friction, risk losing subscribers when they have a lore channel to run. And in that respect, they've shown more sense than GW has on this matter. If anything, I feel a little sorry for them, because this situation is beyond their control and it risks rocking the boat for them a lot (if not outright capsizing it, if GW do decide to go 'Rings of Power' level crazy with woke changes).
Nothing wrong with them staying on the fence, why would they jeopardize their primary source of income over a minor (albiet poor) lore change? If you hear big creators skirt around the issue and your first instinct is to completely abandon them then you have an issue. You are effectively saying that all of the entertainment and lore that they've provided for you over the years is worth less than this one thing. Don't blow things out of proportion.
Why go after people who are on the fence or unphased by this? Why is everyone acting hostile towards anyone that didn't have an adverse reaction to this? This is "with me or against me" behaviour. This is how you alienate people who would potentially agree with you and this is how you get stuck in and echo chamber. Plus there are also many warhammer and conservative channels that are financially incentivised to exaggerate and milk the situation and it's implications for content.
So you expect people to shut up and accept huge lore changes? We already saw what happened to Star Wars and the Last Jedi. Such huge redcons of old stuff, and you want fans to just accept a retcon of something that is over 30 years old and has been confirmed in many codexi, and every single one since 8th edition has custodes as only males. Now tell me again why fans should accept such disregard for cannon and bullshit response from GW gaslightint people?
@@DeadWayfes I never said any of that, and I agree and understand. People should just stop acting hostile towards others who don't care, that is all I was saying.
Guy, you're so full of it. Almost none of those people you focused on have any type of deal with Games Workshop. Majorkill has been threatened with legal action from Games Workshop several times. At what point have you ever seen Valrak with any free stuff from GW? You're acting so innocent, and saying you're not telling anyone to do anything...but they can search for the social media manager. Why? It's clear that you were blocked, and it's fairly obvious that it wasn't random or without reason; it doesn't work like that. So, you're retaliating by telling people you can find them by searching for them, and you mention this several times in your video.
Er, you think someone like Majorkill is toeing the line? I mean, the dude actually SELLS unlicensed 3D-printed minis, and Warhammer inspired pornography and nudie calendars. He even went as far as selling an unlicensed 3D printed Emperor model. I don't see how any of that could put him in their good graces. And it's not like he reviews or paints official Warhammer merchandise, so even if they wanted to send him free stuff, it wouldn't even work as advertising. On the other hand, I remember a period where he (Luetin as well) went pretty hard on what felt like a regular basis calling out a lot of their anti-consumer BS (absurd price hikes and artificial scarcity of product, etc). The simple truth is not everyone gets pissed off by the same stuff. It's entirely possible some people just don't care as much as you want them to. Discourse Minis, for example, put out a video where she didn't seem too keen on the Femstodes thing, but ultimately didn't seem to think it was a big deal, while reminding everyone that GW is guilty of some majorly shady business practices that actually cost players potentially thousands of dollars, sometimes rendering entire armies obsolete and unplayable in an official capacity.
First up, Valrak is blacklisted by GW, he never gets free stuff from them and he also talks about the negatives of GW. He gets absolutely nothing from them other than the whispers of the warp. Secondly the lore is and always has been mutable, I remember the Dark Angel Deathwing being full of Native American characters with feathers and stuff, but that was dropped. The Thousand Sons used to be normal Chaos Marines until they changed them into automatons. Heck look at the Squats, they sold poorly in 1st/2nd ed so GW dropped them and brushed aside any mention of them, and what happened only a few shorts years ago? They came back as GW could make money selling new the Votann. Lore is mutable and changeable, it has always solely existed to sell tiny fighting plastic models. Getting hung up on lore changes is silly. I've been in this since '89 and have seen so many rules and lore changes that its water off a ducks back. If you're getting that wound up about Female Custodes or potential Female Space Marines, you need to really ask yourself why? And don't say lore, it'll change, whats the real reason? And I don't care if there is or isn't female custodes or marines, it's not going to stop me painting and playing with toy soldiers. Finally, when it comes to working for GW people come to company for all sorts of reasons, maybe they fancied a career change, maybe they fancied working for GW but I can assure you that they will be paid under market value for the role they are doing. GW has a long history of paying the bare minimum for a role, I've met store managers barely getting more than minimum wage and region managers getting far less than their counterparts in other companies. Peachy and others have talked about this. But its the job of the social media manager to direct the staff on content to create and how the staff interact with customers. They don't set the policy, its usually someone far higher up, but given the abuse I witnessed being thrown at GW staff on Twitter I would have done the same with blocking people and deleting comments. There was no need for people to be nasty to some poor customer service staff.
Here is the thing that the people opposing female Adeptus Custodes don't understand. For purposes of this issue: The lore doesn't matter. Your nostalgia doesn't matter. Existing female representation doesn't matter. There is only one thing that matters and when you understand it, you understand that female Custodes and Space Marines must exist. It is this; Custodes and Space Marines must be inclusive because they are described as being the best of the best of the human race. Whats more, Space Marines are the face of 40K. If you say women can't be a part of the best of the best, than you are saying women are inherently inferior to men. Thats the shameful 40 year old message they wrote into their lore. That message is not only untrue; it is abhorrent to any fair minded person. 40K has existed with this implicit statement as part of it's IP so far because it is not even a blip on the average person's radar. But things are changing. Games Workshop and Warhammer 40k are entering larger spheres. They must fix this problem in the lore if they are going to be accepted in those spheres. Games workshop knows this. Amazon knows this. Female Custodes are here. Female Space Marines are coming. This holds true for BIPOC & LGBTQ+ representation as well. You can't tell people they are lesser because they aren't white males. It's not true and it's not right.
@SchalaZeal1 Well, if I would give it a college guess, I would say it would be for control. Bring this niche hobby to the mainstream as per their desire, and then control them with political correctness. As investment firms will withhold funding unless they bow to the esg demands. As Fink said "we need to compel behavior"
Subscribed. Very well put together, it's important to keep one's mind in this situation. I've found that everyone who supports Femstodes is intellectually dishonest, or insufferable.
Well, this was bound to happen, big content creators within every fandom always get ridiculed for having a different opinion, and every criticism they've had for the company in the past has suddenly become irrelevant because they've "brands" and can't think for themselves, "shills" for the company🤣 Valrak is a shill now, someone who constantly complains about GW and was not long ago shadowbanned by GW for leaking information😂this reminds me of when WoW fans suddenly call Asmongold a paid Blizzard Shill every blue moon that he has a different opinion than them, this is hilarious.
GW was never perfect *cries in battlefleet gothic*. But GW and their games/community went downhill so fast when they introduced the hobby into mainstream America. Since then they have adopted a more American business practices the entire franchise just feels like its loosing all of its heart and soul and just feel like its chasing itself in circles. Warhammer was better before the American approaches/cukture wars/marketing were adopted and pandered to.
Nobody cares what the woke people think. They really don't. They are a very tiny vocal minority. If you like woke brands then more power to you. Just don't angry when the silent majority takes their money and leaves. This is how the free market works: When there is low demand for product or service, that business cannot justify existing. If that results in new rival brands swooping in to fill the void to take the place of the previous business that made stupid decisions then it means customers are getting what they asked for which is rightfully supposed to happen. No empire lasts forever...
This guy is saying dont fall in line with youtubers while trying to get you to fall in line with his agenda. This mans hobby is complaining. Life is short. Do not waste it being miserable like this guy. If warhammer upsets you then sell it and move on. I find it verry strange that so mutch of the warhammer community is just a negative echo chamber. I would buy female space marines just to upset dorks that complain about everything. Female desolation squad would trigger nerds lol
I am disappointed and angry as well, I love Warhammer and am much newer to the hobby than many people out there. I don’t expect everyone to feel the way I do, which is once they start rewriting known lore the inevitable end of the IP is at hand. Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel etc all have went down this slippery slope of trying to appease non fans and political activists. All these IPs are dead.
You are new. The IP has had lore changes since the beginning. Chaos wasn't even going to be in 40k originally. Primarchs weren't a thing until later in second edition. Necrons are based on the original Chaos Androids from Space Crusade board game.
Not really care imo. I've been in the hobby for 40+ years. GW has been woke for 10 years. Imperium are fascists. World conquers. They also got rid of religion. But call the patriarchy the God Emporer. Politics in 40k will make a hypocrite out of anyone. It's satire lore that makes fun of Republicans. Liberals will spin in place, making sense of it. Sure, the lore has changed over the ears to what it is now. It makes it interesting. Unfortunately, politics infiltrate into all forms. It's a trend. Superman never flew. He jumped. He never had Lazer eyes. Take a look at the last hundred years and you will find that history is repeating itself. But rightfully so. Changing the lore and gasslighting fans is a stab in the back. But the rabbit hole gets deeper. Amazon series? DEI? Cancel culture tourists. Most who complain about inclusiveness won't bother to be included. Most wont be able to invest into the hobby. 5 models cost 100$ now a days. A single character model was $12-15 in pewter. I just hope I live to see me finish my pile of grey plastic. Thanks for all the fish GW. 3d printer go brrrrrrrr
40k hasn't been satire for a long time. Rogue Trader started as such, but 2nd edition already removed the more overt satirical elements. By 3rd edition almost all the satire was gone, and the setting took itself completely seriously.
@@davideguarneri9076Yeah, I am a newbie that has only been reading and listening to lore for a year or so, but aside from a few sentences in every other book, there isn't much satire anymore. Looking at the old stuff side by side with the newer, it's so disingenuous imo to claim that GW are making satire in 40k nowadays. It went from 50-100% satire to 5%, and that 5 is being generous. "Republicans" instead of Tories is a dead giveaway for the disingenuous I mentioned. Dumb yanks really can't seem to grasp that there's more things in the world than what they know. Hopefully the smarter ones will defeat that blight on the country sooner rather than later. I'm from neither country.
@@MrPolicekarim No, it's because the original satire was against tatcherism, and it became increasingly irrelevant with the passage of time and expansion of the brand outside the UK.
But it is left versus right, it is woke versus non-woke and these are politics that the woke left is inserting into our culture. Think about how Star Wars and Lord of the Rings went. In 2021 I left clans, guilds and societies because people said I was being political talking about speech restrictions and what I predicted happening right now with AI banning players for words. It's weird because I hadn't brought politics as such into it, it even seemed strange people took it like that. I personally would like politics out of my games and every other space I go to escape in but real life constraints and heavy political influence means I have nowhere to go. If you want to keep your hobby you can in its new form, but like the Star Wars universe, the Marvel Universe, Star Trek, Lord of the Rings and more, don't expect many if any new players because old players will walk away and the engagement from other players to introducing new players will diminish, plus you will have a stigma. You're about to go from being called nerds to woke cult followers if this goes through and gets worse like it's bound to. You have an imagination about your universe, so do they, it conflicts with yours and they use an algorithm to design theirs. I hope you don't take it too bad when the mother (might be the daughter) of the Emperor of Mankind turns up to rescue him and what's left of the custodes after they get their asses kicked, you know how this works, right? It's weird, the way this is happening is how Antonio Gramsci would have liked it, you should look him up.
On the part about thinking for your own opinion , I once met an Arch fan for Total War Warhammer. The fan in question made a "loreful" mod saying that upgrades Dwarf Hammerers to have the same kind of armour as Ironbreakers. I commented that its not actually loreful and pointed out what the Army Books actually say. Then the mod maker says Arch says so, so it must be true and later deleted my comment. Absolute sheep.
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Sword and Steel did a good video attacking the Custodes nonsense from a female POV. I believe she runs a store that sells GW product so was taking a risk.
She does? That's really cool.
She’s a legend. That was the first vid I’ve seen from her, but she was so fair and poignant at the same time
Yeah Ikr 😀
That was such a nice surprise when I saw that video. I've only seen that video but she seemed genuine, just like this guy I'm watching right now. Also a first.
@@Ewil.Bluetooth Feels good to see decent people standing up for what they love.
Nah she's a pick me.
Wasn't Valrak blacklisted by Games Workshop because they hated the fact he had become a hub for company leaks that more often than not turned out to be true?
Don't bring facts to this argument. If you don't say he's a shill (even though there is ZERO evidence of that and in fact quite a bit he is not) you're an LBGTQXYZJKL wokehammer sympathizer.
Majorcringe never really cared that much about the game or lore. He admitted so himself one time. He jumped on the boat and became a porn peddling 40k dudebro. Funny how many people got fooled. Even he himself got so much of his own bullshit that he wanted to start attacking other creators. That was fun.
He was so abviously a dishonest parasite(using nice words here) from the start never wasted time on that thing once i realised years ago
@@mykalkelley8315 a what?
And of course he loves being a total peacock, wearing wife-beaters to show off his body like some kind of male gigalo
Yeeeea I really do pin alot of blame on him for the stupid amount of rule 34 40k stuff flooding the 40k scenes.
I thought it was understood that anyone who says "GW sent this model" is not unbiased. Always consider the source.
Valrak is i say a bit different since he has always been a fanboy and i respect him for not changing too much and also he has criticized a lot of the erda bs and the books.
But majorkill and luetin have forgotten their identity. MajorKill is a big example... since he went from more edge and stupid content to full shill
I unsubscribed from all the "big" channels like majorkill and leutin.
Same
Still, it's nice that everyone is on board now. I feel like I've been shouting at clouds since they quietly desexualised daemonettes of Slaanesh, then retconned the scattering of the Primarchs.
DEI by a thousand cuts.
Dito, wanted to know if they had any integrity. Saw their videos and realized they don't. Sucks but it is what it is
@sparkeykills1 yea. They have basically made a business out of their channels so they are not just gonna walk away from making content. I'm sure nothing will change and GW will probably get a little more popular until they eventually fall from grace like Star Wars and Marvel but on a smaller scale until nobody cares. Hey at least we save time and money. Not gonna try and hate to much tho it's just my time has finally come to separate from the hobby until something changes. For people who still enjoy 40k that's good for them I guess.
Yeah, I unsub of lot of them. Not worth.
@@bigpauliep6992The slippery slope shouldn't be scuffed at. Yet it always seems to be the case.
Honestly, the creators (be it painting tips, kitbash showcaser and the like) that deliberately are avoiding the situation and are noncomittal in their stance I don't really have a problem with, it's just the cost of being reliant on GWs "good graces". However, the ones that have fully on doubled down and are going hardcore with the bootlicking of GW and/or labels and ad-hom attacks on everyone who disagree are the creators that I'm straight up putting on a mental list to avoid interaction with and never give them a single view ever again.
Exactly. that so many are immediately jumping on the left-wing side and dismissing anyone saying they dont' like it as bigots/nazis speaks volumes.
Yes!
@@NobleshieldAnd just maybe, maybe, as bad as the writing is, maybe we're right in making things diverse? Personally wouldn't want this change myself, like a lot of people, but my gripe is when yall freak over the perceived politics rather than the bad writing. You do realise all these right wing channels are being paid to talk about 40k like another? It's just another right wing ploy you're happy to fall for because you agree in part with the sentiment of 'women can't be in this faction' when they kinda can because it's fantasy and they're not even space marines, so the process is different. It's a retcon, suck it up or move on, don't force your bullshit politics into it though. This is Corporatism in a nutshell, following trends
@@TurbanCatMccoy I'm not so sure. I've seen people get riled up over all kinds of stupid things, but with this it seems more like a final straw situation than a self-contained event. Like if this happened in a vacuum no one would be that bothered, but its the last in a long line of social progressiveness in the lore since 2021? I don't know myself but its a point I've heard repeated a lot.
“Making things diverse”……. Do you actually read the lore or will you ignore that 40k is diverse already? Asian space marines, female-only military orders, black people in many chapters and the guard, the list goes on.
Anybody that expects a symbiotic leech to take a stand, realize that GW has them elbow deep, Kermit the frog style.
It’s not that the content creators are woke, it’s because they are weak. That’s what I think for myself, as instructed. 😂
thing is the games who just quit 40k will no longer buy miniatures, or watch the TV show, and they are not coming back, GW has lost part of its market worth billions in long term profit, not only that but their kids will grow up playing D£ath Fields, Frostgrave and Bolt Action.
Ya can sail the seas to see the show to see how bad or good it is, but i def will not pay for it
I unsubbed from Majorkill. He used to be pretty funny, but the writing was on the wall when he stopped with his "Timmy" character. Clearly told to clean up his act by GW in order to bypass their legal department.
The guy seems more interested in selling his cartoon po rn anyway.
He used to say the ghey f word and the N bomb. How the mighty have fallen.
Wait, he actually does that? I always thought it was a joke when he signed off with that on his videos. Oh dear.
I honestly feel like you contradicted yourself there. You think GW actually made him kill the Timmy bit, but is cool with him SELLING Warhammer inspired porn? Come on man, that just doesn't make sense.
@@Freefall347 It makes perfect sense.
His Timmy character was there for all to see; the Hentai behind a paywall.
GW is all about visible brand image.
Besides which, Timmy was essentially questioning from the perspective of someone who was concerned with the minutiae of the law : back when GW acted like they cared about it too. That's pretty much mocking the gatekeepers who kept the company afloat, until BR and Bezos got their claws into it.
It wasn't Gee Dub that killed Timmy it was TH-cam.
What's ironic is valrak is on gws shitlist. Probably cause his "rumors" turn out to be true too much. But yeah he'll never criticis gw on this. Ever. Even though they blacklisted him.
Hey, if Weezy says it, I believe it. He told me to think for myself, and that is exactly what I will do! 😁
I’m starting the worlds smartest cult
Content creators that want to sit on the fence can't complain when they get splinters in their arse.
Brother you make good points. Good on you and appreciate the humility you have as you vocalise your thoughts
I find myself within a realm where external opinions hold little sway over my actions. It's a realization that everyone harbours their unique perspectives, and I don't feel compelled to impede that. However, it's noteworthy that many prominent content creators are bound by non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) with Games Workshop. One such agreement was inadvertently revealed some time back, elucidating stringent clauses that effectively inhibit dissent or criticism toward the company. This arrangement facilitates their access to pre-release review copies of codex books and models, granting them a competitive edge.
So how many content creators have sold out to GW then?
I suspect a lot of content creators might have somewhat of a similar relationship to GW as game "journalists" have with gaming companies etc. This probably most applies to the ones showcasing games online though admittedly.
Most of them I'd magine, since almot all of them say that GW gives them free shit
Those that can't imagine having any other job, and would rather get down on all four and beg for it than lose "access".
Gamza made a video where they list alot of 40k youtubers by their views and which ones are boot lickers
@@krivaan7836 Name plz ? :)
Well said. I agree with you. I'll fight with GW, not those who support their choices. I can't do the vectorial. Also, I feel its better to try talking things out like a rational adult. A possible solution, GW could have saved themselves some heartache by saying this female Custodian was a proof of concept or a contingency plan. Explains why she's never been seen nor left Earth. Just hope Amazon don't buy GW.
Don't worry, I got labeled fascist for no good reason either.
pretty sure gw hates valrak with all the rumour mill videos he makes
Way to miss all the people that ACTUALLY do unboxings and get free shit. 🤦♂️
I agree with your #NoRobo stance. Unfortunately no government schools teach HOW to think for yourself. They teach you WHAT you should think.
Schools & Education boards need some Night Lords Treatment.
I still watch the big name channels like Majorkill and Valrak because I enjoy their style of content. I dont like to let my POV be spoiled by a few bad habits/takes from the youtuber.
Also, Arch is still pretty solid for those who dont know.
Arch is solid.
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 solid crap.
Admitting to watching everything and thinking for yourself? Well, I am subscribed, dude.
What are you even talking about? Hellstorm Gaming used to work for Games Workshop and criticises them all the time. Chapter Master Valrak does say when he doesnt like things that GW does. Do you even watch these peoples content?
You say you don't want to keep beating a dead horse, then why do you keep talking about this? You've said what you've had to say on the topic several videos ago. Why dont you talk about something hobby related that you do like? There must be something, instead of you dwelling in this negativity.
Isn’t Valrak blacklisted by GW?
The lore channels that are for the change or sitting on the fence is the worst bit from the youtuber side.
Atleast when GW brought out the new marines they made some lore to back it up and didn't just tell us that they have always been there.
Here is a thought for all of you guys, Me personally understand the "bigger" channels not saying anything or much at all. They have bills to pay like the rest of us.
When was the last time a creator's actions ever changed a corporation's way of ruining it's business? Never is the answer. The corporation either changed because of fans or people or they just went out of business over time.
I say give the creator's a break and watch or listen to what they put out in the first place, that is why you watch them.
Just don't support the corp.
this is the crasy thing on social media . if you dont agree you automatically labeled as a bigot incel
I'm not mad. I'm disappointed. 3:20
Perfectly said.
For me the issue is I no longer care to give GW because they've made it clear that the lore doesn't matter. I therefore don't want to invest in the setting or the product.
As far as woke vs non woke - the woke side hates me just for exiting - so it's obvious who to side with.
Very rational take. IMO the majority of large warhammer youtube's have always been hobby poison, and bring little or nothing to the table so to speak.
I really appreciate your intro. I honestly feel like I'm being greeted every time. It's super nice.
I also appreciate that you ARE a small channel and can say how you actually feel, rather than having to shill whatever product or concept is going to keep the free swag flowing. Clout farming is lame.
He's a Fed
Auspex Tactics prob had the best diplomatic but honest response. Which was wise, even though i prefer the more brutal respinse calling GW out on it's BS
What a interesting find about the social media person. Very nicely done. Unfortunately by doing that excellent work you MADE ME subscribe to your channel.
One question. Why has GW allowed Majorkill to keep his channel? The guy was selling stuff that was copied from GWs range! So much for copy right laws!
"You can't trust that guy, he disagrees with me."
Yeah sure, sometimes it's to play it safe. And sometimes it's because they actually feel that way.
Dude, Valrak is straight up blacklisted by GW. Maybe he just doesn’t want to get into this BS. I don’t.
Will you say the same thing when the Dark Angels get the same treatment?
Amazon decides to make a movie about the DA, and it's focused on a 3 female DA?
None of them wear helmets because otherwise the audience wouldn't see that they are female...... great idea?
Just curious.
Valrak is given info direct from GW and gets stuff early, they just all pretend he's blacklisted.
@@davidea12valrak was given lots of info since when he was a small 10k channel. DOUBT it has been gw all this time... and he is sometimes wrong sometimes right
@@davidea12 Yeah, he sells himself for a book and a boxset and then pretends GW hates him!
@@Ewil.Bluetooth I don't like the woke BS any more than you do. I'm just tired of all this click bait BS coming up on my feed. I have watched Valrak for a long time. He's not shilling for GW. Believe all the conspiracy theory BS you want to. The CFO RETIRED. She was planned to retire for over a year but all these click baiters talk about her like she's jumping a sinking ship. It's a load of crap. GW has taken tons of backlash, including me. I canceled my WH+ subscription over the female custodes crap. Hopefully they see the writing on the wall. I just can't stand all this pissing down my leg telling me it's raining by YT'ers looking for clicks.
Of course, shills will gladly get on their knees. However, why did these creators make their channel? Was it for the company? How did they get access to the company? Was it because of the fans?
All it does is show your true character if you piss on the people that raised you up just to be on your knees begging for "access"
If you're going to believe anyone, make it someone like Arch who is "persona non grata" with the jack boots over at GW. I'm sure there are others. Look for who GW actively hates, and they've probably got some truths to tell.
liars always hate those who reveal their lies...
I don't think these youtubers are doing damage control to be in good graces with GW. It's only that at this point they are just too attached to warhammer as content creators. They can't just say "I quit warhammer" without having to start from square one with a different game.
They want Free stuff and I personally think they sell themselves very.... very cheap! A box set and a book.... not worth selling out for.
Luetin made a video about Femstodes and it wasn't positive
To be fair, Valrak went as far as saying he thinks the way GW handled this is crap. But as you've pointed out in the video, I don't blame him or others for either not discussing it (Rho) or not coming down hard on either side (Valrak, Majorkill). I'm not sure it's because they are trying to be all buddy-buddy with GW (the latter two have criticised GW in the past, including recently), but I get that they are in essence a brand of their own now, as you say - they don't want to divide their fanbase, cause friction, risk losing subscribers when they have a lore channel to run. And in that respect, they've shown more sense than GW has on this matter.
If anything, I feel a little sorry for them, because this situation is beyond their control and it risks rocking the boat for them a lot (if not outright capsizing it, if GW do decide to go 'Rings of Power' level crazy with woke changes).
Says bigger TH-camrs are in GW's pocket then says to think for yourself. So I think you're straight up wrong on the first part.
Nothing wrong with them staying on the fence, why would they jeopardize their primary source of income over a minor (albiet poor) lore change?
If you hear big creators skirt around the issue and your first instinct is to completely abandon them then you have an issue. You are effectively saying that all of the entertainment and lore that they've provided for you over the years is worth less than this one thing.
Don't blow things out of proportion.
This guy's the prime example of TURBO VIRGIN
Clearly what the demands is more Space King.
Why go after people who are on the fence or unphased by this? Why is everyone acting hostile towards anyone that didn't have an adverse reaction to this?
This is "with me or against me" behaviour. This is how you alienate people who would potentially agree with you and this is how you get stuck in and echo chamber.
Plus there are also many warhammer and conservative channels that are financially incentivised to exaggerate and milk the situation and it's implications for content.
So you expect people to shut up and accept huge lore changes? We already saw what happened to Star Wars and the Last Jedi. Such huge redcons of old stuff, and you want fans to just accept a retcon of something that is over 30 years old and has been confirmed in many codexi, and every single one since 8th edition has custodes as only males.
Now tell me again why fans should accept such disregard for cannon and bullshit response from GW gaslightint people?
@@DeadWayfes I never said any of that, and I agree and understand. People should just stop acting hostile towards others who don't care, that is all I was saying.
Poke the bear, thats always such a good idea
Guy, you're so full of it. Almost none of those people you focused on have any type of deal with Games Workshop. Majorkill has been threatened with legal action from Games Workshop several times. At what point have you ever seen Valrak with any free stuff from GW?
You're acting so innocent, and saying you're not telling anyone to do anything...but they can search for the social media manager. Why? It's clear that you were blocked, and it's fairly obvious that it wasn't random or without reason; it doesn't work like that. So, you're retaliating by telling people you can find them by searching for them, and you mention this several times in your video.
Meds
Er, you think someone like Majorkill is toeing the line? I mean, the dude actually SELLS unlicensed 3D-printed minis, and Warhammer inspired pornography and nudie calendars. He even went as far as selling an unlicensed 3D printed Emperor model. I don't see how any of that could put him in their good graces. And it's not like he reviews or paints official Warhammer merchandise, so even if they wanted to send him free stuff, it wouldn't even work as advertising. On the other hand, I remember a period where he (Luetin as well) went pretty hard on what felt like a regular basis calling out a lot of their anti-consumer BS (absurd price hikes and artificial scarcity of product, etc).
The simple truth is not everyone gets pissed off by the same stuff. It's entirely possible some people just don't care as much as you want them to. Discourse Minis, for example, put out a video where she didn't seem too keen on the Femstodes thing, but ultimately didn't seem to think it was a big deal, while reminding everyone that GW is guilty of some majorly shady business practices that actually cost players potentially thousands of dollars, sometimes rendering entire armies obsolete and unplayable in an official capacity.
Who's the shill? Comment when you figure it out lmk.
Luetin , Hellstorm, Major Kill, Valrak and many more!
@Duppyman695 ahh I see
First up, Valrak is blacklisted by GW, he never gets free stuff from them and he also talks about the negatives of GW. He gets absolutely nothing from them other than the whispers of the warp. Secondly the lore is and always has been mutable, I remember the Dark Angel Deathwing being full of Native American characters with feathers and stuff, but that was dropped. The Thousand Sons used to be normal Chaos Marines until they changed them into automatons. Heck look at the Squats, they sold poorly in 1st/2nd ed so GW dropped them and brushed aside any mention of them, and what happened only a few shorts years ago? They came back as GW could make money selling new the Votann. Lore is mutable and changeable, it has always solely existed to sell tiny fighting plastic models. Getting hung up on lore changes is silly. I've been in this since '89 and have seen so many rules and lore changes that its water off a ducks back. If you're getting that wound up about Female Custodes or potential Female Space Marines, you need to really ask yourself why? And don't say lore, it'll change, whats the real reason? And I don't care if there is or isn't female custodes or marines, it's not going to stop me painting and playing with toy soldiers.
Finally, when it comes to working for GW people come to company for all sorts of reasons, maybe they fancied a career change, maybe they fancied working for GW but I can assure you that they will be paid under market value for the role they are doing. GW has a long history of paying the bare minimum for a role, I've met store managers barely getting more than minimum wage and region managers getting far less than their counterparts in other companies. Peachy and others have talked about this. But its the job of the social media manager to direct the staff on content to create and how the staff interact with customers. They don't set the policy, its usually someone far higher up, but given the abuse I witnessed being thrown at GW staff on Twitter I would have done the same with blocking people and deleting comments. There was no need for people to be nasty to some poor customer service staff.
About half of the bodies you mention don't have gw affiliation. Everything you say does hold true for the ones towing the company line though.
Here is the thing that the people opposing female Adeptus Custodes don't understand.
For purposes of this issue:
The lore doesn't matter.
Your nostalgia doesn't matter.
Existing female representation doesn't matter.
There is only one thing that matters and when you understand it, you understand that female Custodes and Space Marines must exist.
It is this; Custodes and Space Marines must be inclusive because they are described as being the best of the best of the human race. Whats more, Space Marines are the face of 40K.
If you say women can't be a part of the best of the best, than you are saying women are inherently inferior to men. Thats the shameful 40 year old message they wrote into their lore. That message is not only untrue; it is abhorrent to any fair minded person.
40K has existed with this implicit statement as part of it's IP so far because it is not even a blip on the average person's radar.
But things are changing. Games Workshop and Warhammer 40k are entering larger spheres. They must fix this problem in the lore if they are going to be accepted in those spheres.
Games workshop knows this.
Amazon knows this.
Female Custodes are here.
Female Space Marines are coming.
This holds true for BIPOC & LGBTQ+ representation as well. You can't tell people they are lesser because they aren't white males. It's not true and it's not right.
I don't give a shit, Andy Talbot is his name, go ask him where the female custodes models are
@SchalaZeal1 hmm...
"Both?"
"Both"
"Both" "both"
"Both is good"
@SchalaZeal1 Well, if I would give it a college guess, I would say it would be for control.
Bring this niche hobby to the mainstream as per their desire, and then control them with political correctness. As investment firms will withhold funding unless they bow to the esg demands.
As Fink said "we need to compel behavior"
Preach!
@0:43 youtuber razorfist does the samethiing will blolck anyone he doesn't agree with him than cry when others block him.
Great find. its widespread. Yet people still think this is pr0fit driven.
Subscribed. Very well put together, it's important to keep one's mind in this situation. I've found that everyone who supports Femstodes is intellectually dishonest, or insufferable.
You do know the Uk goverment is right of centre and right wing right ? not not sure why you think its a got ya moment outing this guy!
Lames Wokeshop and Ma'amazon presents Wokepander 40K...
Well, this was bound to happen, big content creators within every fandom always get ridiculed for having a different opinion, and every criticism they've had for the company in the past has suddenly become irrelevant because they've "brands" and can't think for themselves, "shills" for the company🤣
Valrak is a shill now, someone who constantly complains about GW and was not long ago shadowbanned by GW for leaking information😂this reminds me of when WoW fans suddenly call Asmongold a paid Blizzard Shill every blue moon that he has a different opinion than them, this is hilarious.
GW was never perfect *cries in battlefleet gothic*.
But GW and their games/community went downhill so fast when they introduced the hobby into mainstream America.
Since then they have adopted a more American business practices the entire franchise just feels like its loosing all of its heart and soul and just feel like its chasing itself in circles.
Warhammer was better before the American approaches/cukture wars/marketing were adopted and pandered to.
Lucas Film caught me years ago never show a major corporation loyalty, they are absolutely not loyal to you and never will be.
GW hates Valrak.....just saying.
Ohhh is very easy for me to be on the anti-woke side, since the woke virus has destroyed every franchise I have ever loved.
Nobody cares what the woke people think. They really don't. They are a very tiny vocal minority. If you like woke brands then more power to you. Just don't angry when the silent majority takes their money and leaves. This is how the free market works: When there is low demand for product or service, that business cannot justify existing. If that results in new rival brands swooping in to fill the void to take the place of the previous business that made stupid decisions then it means customers are getting what they asked for which is rightfully supposed to happen. No empire lasts forever...
Dude, this whole thing just keeps going further up the ladder
Well arch is a bad ragebait grifter 😂 canr believe how haed he fools his audience
This guy is saying dont fall in line with youtubers while trying to get you to fall in line with his agenda. This mans hobby is complaining. Life is short. Do not waste it being miserable like this guy. If warhammer upsets you then sell it and move on. I find it verry strange that so mutch of the warhammer community is just a negative echo chamber. I would buy female space marines just to upset dorks that complain about everything. Female desolation squad would trigger nerds lol
Good advice 👍🏽
I am disappointed and angry as well, I love Warhammer and am much newer to the hobby than many people out there.
I don’t expect everyone to feel the way I do, which is once they start rewriting known lore the inevitable end of the IP is at hand. Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel etc all have went down this slippery slope of trying to appease non fans and political activists. All these IPs are dead.
You are new. The IP has had lore changes since the beginning. Chaos wasn't even going to be in 40k originally. Primarchs weren't a thing until later in second edition. Necrons are based on the original Chaos Androids from Space Crusade board game.
Culture war.
Not really care imo. I've been in the hobby for 40+ years. GW has been woke for 10 years.
Imperium are fascists. World conquers. They also got rid of religion. But call the patriarchy the God Emporer. Politics in 40k will make a hypocrite out of anyone. It's satire lore that makes fun of Republicans. Liberals will spin in place, making sense of it. Sure, the lore has changed over the ears to what it is now. It makes it interesting. Unfortunately, politics infiltrate into all forms. It's a trend. Superman never flew. He jumped. He never had Lazer eyes. Take a look at the last hundred years and you will find that history is repeating itself.
But rightfully so. Changing the lore and gasslighting fans is a stab in the back. But the rabbit hole gets deeper. Amazon series? DEI? Cancel culture tourists. Most who complain about inclusiveness won't bother to be included. Most wont be able to invest into the hobby. 5 models cost 100$ now a days. A single character model was $12-15 in pewter. I just hope I live to see me finish my pile of grey plastic.
Thanks for all the fish GW. 3d printer go brrrrrrrr
40k hasn't been satire for a long time. Rogue Trader started as such, but 2nd edition already removed the more overt satirical elements. By 3rd edition almost all the satire was gone, and the setting took itself completely seriously.
@@davideguarneri9076Yeah, I am a newbie that has only been reading and listening to lore for a year or so, but aside from a few sentences in every other book, there isn't much satire anymore.
Looking at the old stuff side by side with the newer, it's so disingenuous imo to claim that GW are making satire in 40k nowadays.
It went from 50-100% satire to 5%, and that 5 is being generous.
"Republicans" instead of Tories is a dead giveaway for the disingenuous I mentioned.
Dumb yanks really can't seem to grasp that there's more things in the world than what they know. Hopefully the smarter ones will defeat that blight on the country sooner rather than later.
I'm from neither country.
@@davideguarneri9076 You think threy did that, to appeal to kids?
@@MrPolicekarim No, it's because the original satire was against tatcherism, and it became increasingly irrelevant with the passage of time and expansion of the brand outside the UK.
Fuck yeah.
bruh, your camera
get woke go broke. GW is going disneys way
But it is left versus right, it is woke versus non-woke and these are politics that the woke left is inserting into our culture. Think about how Star Wars and Lord of the Rings went. In 2021 I left clans, guilds and societies because people said I was being political talking about speech restrictions and what I predicted happening right now with AI banning players for words. It's weird because I hadn't brought politics as such into it, it even seemed strange people took it like that.
I personally would like politics out of my games and every other space I go to escape in but real life constraints and heavy political influence means I have nowhere to go.
If you want to keep your hobby you can in its new form, but like the Star Wars universe, the Marvel Universe, Star Trek, Lord of the Rings and more, don't expect many if any new players because old players will walk away and the engagement from other players to introducing new players will diminish, plus you will have a stigma.
You're about to go from being called nerds to woke cult followers if this goes through and gets worse like it's bound to. You have an imagination about your universe, so do they, it conflicts with yours and they use an algorithm to design theirs.
I hope you don't take it too bad when the mother (might be the daughter) of the Emperor of Mankind turns up to rescue him and what's left of the custodes after they get their asses kicked, you know how this works, right?
It's weird, the way this is happening is how Antonio Gramsci would have liked it, you should look him up.
On the part about thinking for your own opinion , I once met an Arch fan for Total War Warhammer. The fan in question made a "loreful" mod saying that upgrades Dwarf Hammerers to have the same kind of armour as Ironbreakers. I commented that its not actually loreful and pointed out what the Army Books actually say. Then the mod maker says Arch says so, so it must be true and later deleted my comment.
Absolute sheep.