So How Bad are Thorpe Parks Operations?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ธ.ค. 2018
- Today we're visiting Thorpe Park in the UK to see how well they do with dispatching their roller coasters. We're able to test all of their coasters with the exception of the Walking Dead and Flying Fish. How do they do? Lets give it a look!
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Anyone else find it funny when during the time lapse on the invert, everyone’s always just swinging their legs
MatthewWK Dont we all do that tho? Pretty sure it’s tradition
& floorlesses
@Gamerman629 Hype Squad Put off shoes if the park operates 1 train(park recommends to do that)
Probably just to pass time or something
Everyone swings their legs. I went to Thorpe Park today and everyone was swinging their legs. The operating wasn't as long as what you see in the video but swarm took a while to load and it broke down at the very end and we were sitting there for about 5 minutes. In the end we went on a lot of rides and it was a great day!
I'm laughing at my home park's operations, sometimes the operations are better, it really does depend on the day, but I'm surprised Colossus had a shorter dispatch time than Inferno's, it takes like 10 minutes sometimes for colossus to dispatch.
And btw saw usually runs seven trains so credit to the only ride that stays on top of it
Yes! every time I’ve visited colossus has had the longest wait time
When waiting for colossus it always takes a while. For example, someone was too big a the restraint wouldn't secure and they tried for about 2 mins but failed
@@tornadopenguin619 nah its cus no one wanna ride any other row except from the front bcus it's too rough
lol no colossus isn't rough any more though and the fronts not great on colossus, backs so much better
If you clicked on the video you probably know the answer
ronylouis nope
ronylouis it’s good when there’s no people
Unless you live in Australia like me or are any of the billions of people in the world who haven’t been to Thorpe Park, yeah I agree
yeh.....
Ok
Finally one of my local parks
some random theme park enthusuiast same
You knows its bad when 40 seconds is just the people storing their bags.
Colossus's restraint system is awful, really bulky restraints that take ages to get in/out of.
Nemesis Inferno is usually 1min for me, but they always unlock the restraints.
iconicgeh god trying to get in and out of the seats on colossus is annoying as heckk
Colossus is usually the black sheep of the park
Yep, the trains on Colossus are awful - restraints don't pop up and are very heavy to open, you need to be a contortionist to get into the back of each car, restraints are heavy to pull down, seatbelts are fiddly, plus the station is really small so the dispatches are awful. I wish they'd just replace the trains because apart from this they really contribute to the roughness.
I really enjoy Colossus yeah, new trains would be good
@@Enthusitwat seriously just scrap the ride, put in a Mack or a crazy RMC or somethig
That surprises me about Nemesis Inferno... They are usually the star of the park and usually pride themselves on fast turnovers.. They frequently used to beat their counter on the wall (which I believe is 45 seconds) and in fairness in this video, it looks like you had at least 1 recheck. Colossus here was actually quick in this video. Anecdotally over the summer it was as high as 7 minute dispatches... The team for Swarm are usually amazing at dispatching their trains.. They seem to be the "New Nemesis Inferno"
Maybe they moved the Inferno team over to Swarm?
@@ParasocialCatgirl It's very possible.. the teams wouldn't be exactly the same each year either, they could be deployed anywhere on park. So it's possibly a question of good team or good team leader?
I see the title and go 'uh oh'
ellie stinky
@@tiktokmemes70 poop
Ellie yes so did I
When I used to operate Swarm we would aim to send it at least when it went over the station. The highest I’ve got was 46 trains in an hour. Average 39/40 trains. So this is slow for Swarm really.
Stealth my highest was 1164pph. It will average 850-900 generally with faf. Very few people got how to do Stealth properly. If it’s ready when the other arrives back, and offload are shouting you off quickly getting you to do the seatbelts before it stops, you have a good team 😀
Colossus is just poor design... Nemesis that’s just embarrassing. It’s so easy....
Inversions & Airtime Fourtism has disbanded
Inferno’s dispatches are a joke now they’ve changed the procedure. 2 staff check 2 seats in each row front to back. That’s why it takes so long! It needs to go back to how it was (2 staff check all seats in 1 row) then it’ll be back to being the fastest in the park. No clue why it was changed. The rumour amongst staff is that management say it’s better. It’s clearly not...
Thorpe Park is my home park and I’m there almost twice a week. It doesn’t depend on time of day or staff, it’s just terrible! 😞👎🏻 It’s my fav ride in the park too.
Tom Browne Yeah it used to have positions P1, P2, P3. P1 would do 1-3. P2 would do Gates, 6-7 and Dispatch button. P3 would have done Priority, Bag Box and 4-5. P4 would slide the bag box and do Priority if it was present. It sounds messy but it worked rather well. We could get the train out earliest at the OG and it would be achievable.
I host Swarm at the moment. Our capacity has definitely been reduced since the bag room was converted to the cleaning room. With a good team on the day we can push over 40 trains an hour, but being honest it's not common to consistently achieve over 40. With the bag room no longer being operational, guests spend much longer putting bags and loose items away when they get to the platform and of course some try to take them on, which means we have to waste time unlocking the restraint and asking them to remove the bag. We're also technically not allowed to dispatch super quickly (even when all checks are complete), because we can't have the train stop on the lift hill in case of an overspeed on the other train causing the ride to stop on the lift. Like you said, with a good team, I would ideally aim to dispatch the train as the other train goes over the station, but nowadays a dispatch is 'good' if we don't have the train stop in the transfer track.
@@InsaneCoaster ngl I used to just press the lift start button and it would send it over if it had the block clear 😂 we would send the train when the other was around the helicopter and actually aim to stop it on the lift. Then we knew it was the max we could get out of it 😂
Very much differs with the ride ops here from experience, with stealth and swarm normally being sub one minute dispatches. Saw is all over the shop normally. Nemseis Inferno has been poor for the last two years, but before it was normally on a 50 second dispatch, and this reduced capacity has lead to at least for me, it always having the longest queue time on park this year. Colossus is more understandable for long dispatches, as the restraints are heavy, and lifting them all day is tiring for staff. As well, it has a lot of issues with locking, as often the blue light in the station will not shine after the first go of locking , meaning it cant dispatch as the system says a restraint isnt locked properly, hence meaning staff have to go down the train again pushing down restraints. As well the restraints are tight meaning restraints often have to be released to assist a guest. Staff though make a big difference, as ive found dispatches to vary between 1.2, up to 5 mins this season when two trains have been in operation. Remember back to around 2013/14 when dispatches across the park seemed to be better with most rides achieving an average dispatch of just over a minute.
Front row queue with Fast Track on Colossus was over 30 minutes wait this October during Fright Nights. At least the front row doesn't murder your soul unlike the back...
As Thorpe is my home park I usually time the dispatches.
Colossus usually 2 minutes minimum
Nemesis Inferno 90 seconds
Stealth 50 seconds
Saw 50 seconds
Swarm 50 seconds with baggage hold - 2 minutes if bags on platform
Fact
Not 2 mins for craplosus
Oh god jeff taking the phone on stealth... not good idea
Also I wonder if some of these parks intentionally do slow operations so that they can make the queues longer and sell more fastpasses
I wonder
well, jeff had cargo shorts so it's fine. as long as your pockets are buttoned or zippered it's okay, I do it all the time.
DrDewott I came here a few years back, to be met with a closed Stealth. The park attendant at the entrance said that someone was filming the ride, dropped their phone on the launch track, and severed the launch cable. Their words, not mine 😂 but you’re absolutely right, bad idea indeed!!
DrDewott PortAventura much?
Parks dont "intentionally slow down operations",but like Taylor mentioned its alot of factors that put in to how long it takes to send a train and the conditions it takes to load/ check a train. Maybe a park isnt as busy, so the workers aren't going to break their backs over an empty station, but any other time the workers are always trying their best to keep the line moving as fast as possible (Six Flags Great Adventure does a great job at this)
Coming from a *former* employee, the Nemisis' dispatch time is quite surprising.. but for that ride it really depends on the team that day. Normally on two trains they are pretty efficient on platform and can dispatch trains pretty much flawlessly without stacking, guess that day was not a day like that though haha..
The Nemi team also pride themselves on their fast dispatches and you can see the recheck of bars too due to having to release all the rows, so they could have probably had a faster dispatch time if that wasn't the case.
Xevoius I totally see where you're coming from, but it's just kind of strange when every single dispatch on nemesis inferno that day was around 3 minutes long.
Coaster Studios Ah, if that's the case, then it's completely down to the team on that day.. which is a massive shame..
I'm pretty sure the constant re checking of the bars is a fault with the train, otherwise why would it do it nearly every time?
w Twyman sometimes if guests have bags on the ride/ need to get off we have to release all the bars, its not a fault with the ride!
Being a regular user of Thorpe park, most of the time bigger builded people who don't use the test seats make the time longer for dispatches. Nemesis inferno is normally a 1-1:30 minutes for a dispatch, but due to a bigger builded person, it took longer in the video, so not really a great comparison for this ride.
Of course many comments below me would have thought the park would make ques longer to promote fastpasses….
This is so surreal watching my home park on this channel 😂
As someone who’s been an operator at thorpe park I can agree some dispatches are slow annoyingly though sometimes due to issues outside our control. But I’d say generally they’re not too bad which this video shows fairly. Even though it was only a summer job I do miss it
For a B&M invert.... Anything over 90 seconds is dishonorable.
COUGH COUGH Gyeongju World #파에톤(phaethon)
That's my home park, and it has 2:00~2:30 dispatch.
However, B&M dive has 1:30~1:45 dispatch
THORPE PARK NEEDS A RMC
Thorpe Park itself was actually an RMC until 1998.
Thorpe Park needs a B&M hyper
@@Yasin_2312 maybe one day but a RMC 1st
Really good video - I quite enjoy seeing how good despatch times are. Have you thought also about seeing how long the queues are as you join and then seeing how accurate they are?
I visited today and I gotta hand it to the swarm team, they killed it! 80 minute queue on the sign, on the ride in 25! Probably the best I've seen.
Woo! Glad to see Thorpe Park in a video!
Nemesis inferno is so long cause wills having a rant!
Good video! The operations of Thorpe Park do seem pretty mixed for some reason...
I notice nemesis inferno had the problem it often seems to get where they have to re raise the restraints as it seems the sensor doesn't detect when they are locked, strangely original nemesis doesn't suffer this and is older so I guess inferno needs some maintenance, I think one train does it more than the other.
If you ever come back I recommend paultons park and chessington, good parks and well, they are my locals haha
The swarms operations are amazing and the line never stops moving
Nice to see some UK parks! Can you do some more? Maybe Chessington World of Adventures and Alton Towers?
Unfortunately I did not film any operations videos at any other UK park. But I have other assorted content from Alton Towers and Blackpool Pleasure Beach!
I must say for the 2019 season they did really improve dispatches, especially on colossus they are now at about 30-40 seconds staff are running madly now haha
thanks for doing this for me because Thorpe Park is my home park and is my favorite park in the UK I have also been there 3 times
1:38 isn’t she doing the floss 😂
I don’t know if this is because things have changed at the park in the last few years, but I went on these rides recently and got really fast dispatch times- nemesis inferno was dispatched in 30 seconds and stealth was even quicker. They are really efficient here now, but I don’t know if it’s always been like that
I do like having Thorpe as my home park, always fun to visit but I queues are always massive compared to many parks in the US
Saw is very fast! That’s what I like about queuing for it, once your inside the que goes pretty quick
Went recently, and Nemesis Inferno had dispatches similar to Colossus, and they weren't constantly locking and unlocking bars, so it really does depend on crew at the time. Hopefully a new coaster soon
Love this park!
2:48 for Nemesis Inferno? Are you actually serious right now?
i love on stealth it gives u a warning, the breaks go down it rolls back a bit then it launches
My home Park in another video 😀. I’d love to see some more vids from the UK!
“verdict: YIKES...” i laughed so hard 💀
I remember being there for a day with my friends. Couldn't even get on swarm since we literally stood 2 and a half hours at Nemesis, although the waiting time was supposed to be 90 min. And only once we got to the station we saw why the line was going so slowly...
You caught colossus on a good day, 2minutes for colossus is like a dream come to true honestly.
0:25 saw the ride just chillin in the background
Hmm weird when did you go?When I go early June it's about 45 seconds or so.
But great video keep up the good work!
This was filmed in the end of June
I really liked the ghost train they had, along with stealth. I didn't have time to go on nemesis and swarm though
I've been watching your dispatch time videos to help out with our dispatch time at Elitches to improve them. Now what for this video I saw two critical reason why both Colossus and nemesis both had high dispatch time.
For Colossus I noticed attendant was talking to some guess on exit side. She didn't start checking restraints until almost minute and a half into the loading process. So I think you can shave 30 seconds she wasn't distracted by the those guess
Next the nemesis. During the load process of nemesis the tenants had to recheck the restraints after they pop open because of something you noticed you'll notice this around 3:25 in the video time. So if they didn't have to recheck the restraints. If they didn't have to do restraint recheck Nemesis time would been around a minute 15.
Sorry bad grammar tried to fix it
I love how you put ‘How fast are the operations of ______’ but for Thorpe you put ‘How bad are the operations at Thorpe Park’. Really says something about the park and the reputation they have gained
Is it bad I'm quicker to watch the operations videos with "Bad" in the title than with "Fast"?
SiebayRoo reverse psychology?
@@abulato *perhaps* it is
When are you doing Alton Towers operations, love watching these videos
Unfortunately I did not film an operations video at Alton Towers
Yay! You came to my country
On the nemis inferno they had a restraint failure that's why it took so long
1:51 lol koaster dad
If they had rules more like Universal Orl with what you can take on ride/lockers the dispatches would be a lot slicker. Whenever i have gone there spend ages waiting for one group or another crossing the car to leave something then come back etc
But they would need to build a **lot** of lockers.
Alton Towers' ThunderLooper used to have the fastest throughput I've ever seen on a ride and at a park anywhere. There's a video on youtube somewhere. SO FAST!
Yep Nemesis always has the longest line!
Colussus usually has an even longer line.
Usually colossus has the longest line and it’s a lot slower moving
bruh, why did they unlock all the restraints on the invert when it was ready to dispatch then that delayed it by alot
nemisis was an off day for you then because ive been on that ride around about 20 times aha and its been no more than 1 minute each time. the reason it probably took longer was due to people having to redo seatbelts as they wanted to get off. ❤️
not being funny but your mate contributed to the delay in Stealths dispatch!
I’ve been looking at Thorpe park povs a lot lately knowing I’m going in June then this pops up and my face goes from: 😁to 😲😳in a second
I’m going tomorrow😩
when I went they had a power cut and I was about to go on stealth and it was really scary
Ahh my home park, I was expecting better but some were actually pretty bad. Like really nemesis inferno? and colossus? but then again those are higher capacity and require luggage to be stored in the station as opposed to lockers before that such as swam and saw, which will also slow down operations.
When I went to Thorpe Park Steath was 3 minute dispatches,Nemesis was around 1 minute and Saw the ride was 30 seconds!
Fang Playz stealth’s 3 seconds don’t count because ita part of the ride
Can you please do Alton towers coster parodies
Is there one of these videos for blackpool pleasure beach?
AblazeClamp 2525 no
@@CoasterStudios How did you find the operations there?
Did you do an Alton towers one????
On a busy summers day, Colossus took almost 4mins to dispatch. It was painful.
Honestly I think the amount of time it take to send of the train is good they check the restraints and have to also clip in the empty seats restraints other wise the ride won’t start so the amount of time is take for the train to leave the station is good
Did you do a pleasure beach one?
lol my local park
Camdamcool same
YH ME TO
Same
Same
Dispatch was very slow for stealth wen I went last October I could not get on it so I left the queue kept saying 5 or 10 minutes queue but it felt 65 minutes
Total agree with nemesis and colossus, but colossus I can understand the long times. The rest are pretty good though
That explains Colossus’s que all the time😂😂
Come to Oakwood!!
I think you need to conduct multiple tests on a rides operation and then work out the mean average.
You should go the knoebels its a family park but has great roller coasters
Brenda lee He's been
I just wanted to say for nemesis inferno but it's because they need to wait for the the other cart to come in so it's safe to run
Is the " in depth" study not flawed? As it doesn't take into account the amount of people per ride. Surely dispatch times will be higher for rides with more punters such as stealth compared to say the saw ride?
when i went to thorpe park and went on nemesis inferno the dispatch time was rlly quick
Inferno gets an unfair showing in this because they clearly had a re-lock
For me, nemesis inferno takes about 45 sec to 1min 15sec to dispatch when I ride.
So at 1:45 you said Saw's capacity isn't bad? Well Firstly, 45 second dispatches I believe would give a capacity of 640 RPH, less than the listed capacity of Flying Fish, according to RCDB. Secondly, the first time I rode Saw, last year (2021), I was queueing for 90 mintes for the ride that isn't even that good in my opinion, and as my friends didn't know that this ride has one of the worst capacities in the park, they thought I was missing for over an hour. However, I believe I came on a peak day, as other times that I have ridden Saw, I only queued in half of the queue, but still, Saw can have a really bad capacity.
Colossus is a bit of an odd one. ride time is 1:45, and the train cant dispatch until the other one finishes and is in the block, so 2mins is not that bad... Though they could have it ready to dispatch.. Nemesis Inferno is usually much better than that, so looks like poor staff and bad batching with a mix of messing around with bags etc.
Thorpe Park is my home park!!!
Well their health and safety has gotten stricter, meaning that it’s good staff are taking time on checking it.
The piano music with saw the ride. Even though it is themed off of torture
As an annual pass holder I'd say only Colossus is regularly that bad. NI is usually way quicker. The issue of course is it relies on people getting on and off quickly which most of them can't seem to do...
Will you be doing Alton Towers?
no unfortunately
@@CoasterStudios That's unfortunate, I understand though, they are a bit iffy about cameras at Alton
I went there a couple of months ago
Unfortunately, Inferno has that kind of dispatch regularly. The Colossus time was pretty good, since it generally sits around the 3 minutes mark. Stealth and Swarm usually have phenomenal throughputs, Saw is usually pretty good too. The great thing with Saw is that it has sooooo many block segments, with 3 on the indoor section alone, so as far as eurofighters go, it’s insanely fast throughputs!
Alton Towers honestly has better dispatch times in general. There are easy comparisons to draw (Stealth vs. Rita, Nemesis vs. N. Inferno, Saw vs. Smiler, Flying Fish vs. RMT), and more often than not, Towers gets them out quicker. The only one at Alton Towers with a poor throughput that I can think of is Spinball Whizzer, but it’s a Maurer Söhne ride, who expected anything different. With queue-eaters like Oblivion (1950 riders per hour) on park, Towers is clearly gonna beast Thorpe Park 😂😂
I think Inferno has really stepped it up since the start of 2019 to be completely honest. The 3 S coasters are all very good with throughput and colossus is very mediocre
ive always found nemesis to take forever to depart. especially when your just about to get on and ur waiting
Used to get 25 second dispatches on Swarm/Stealth a few years ago... my face during this whole video was AGGHHHHHH
If you go to parks like Space World(sad that it's closed) and several parks in Asia, Thorpe Park is not that slow.
Oh god, I can't watch, I can't watch :-(
*watches video*
You should do tayto Park in Ireland
Efteling next please! ^^
Thank you for including Stealth’s launch. I’m sure I’m not the only one who appreciated that!
Yeah dispatch times are very subjective for this park. If the park is practically empty, then of course they're brilliant. But during busier times, the dispatches can be awful, and they can be good depending on what staff are on the rides. The fact that there aren't bag holders right next to the gates doesn't help either. But nice video :)
Did you do busch gardens Tampa lol?
I did actually!
Do one at Alton towers, my local park, it’s pretty fast there
unfortunately I did not film one at Alton Towers
As I said they’re pretty fast, other than oblivion but be sure to do one sometime you go again
Shouldn't capacity be considered when calculating the efficiency of boarding times? Like time taken ÷ total passengers = passengers per minute.
that's actually not a bad idea...
Good vlog
colossus takes a while because of safety reasons. For the next 2 seasons it has to ride one car on the track at a time whilst the other goes round because of a risk of having an incident.