Finally found one used from Japan from an independent seller and not a dealer for $500. Money well spent, and I actually like the bracelet that comes with it.
Definitely agreed! The Murph is great, definitely has the same unique selling points with the cathedral hands and faux patina - definetly a model that deserves more love too :)
I got the last one in one of Tokyo‘s tic tac stores (blue one) in 11/23. For 290€. Love it on the Strapcode angus Jubilee. It’s so sexy, it says 😛😛😛😛to all oyster case based watches with a crown it passes like a cool Danelectro guitar passing vintage Les Paul‘s or a classic Citroen passing a bunch of Porsche‘s.
I came to the seiko game later and missed out on the affordable sarb033. In its place I purchased the dress model szsb007 on a deployment strap. Paid retail from Tic Tac. It has faults, what watch doesn’t. Depending on the light, the hands get lost on the silver sun burst dial, but I find it ticks all the boxes for a affordable watch to wear in the evening. By the way, the 4r35 is a good movement. Who cares about specs and accuracy when you wear it on occasion every other week.
I have no idea, as it it unmarked and came with the watch from the previous owner. Strapcode sells its SARB033/035 bracelets as “fitting on SZSB006” so I think it’s an aliexpres/ebay SARB bracelet :)
I agree with you: the cathedral hands and the "fox" patina are the best bits about this watch. The Seagull 1963 is a far better use of a display caseback. Given their pricing, cheaping out and build quality, I hope you'll keep using the "Psycho" pronunciation. OK watch and a very nice review. Cheers 🍻!
Agreed! I don’t really see the “value” of see-through caseback on any standard off the shelf no-complications movements, but you see it fairly often, so brands do it with a reason? I’m trying to say seiko properly and well aware but its not in the system yet 😂 Thank you for the extended reply! Cheers Robin
It was released again earlier this year or late last year JDM and no longer is a limited edition! The blue color too. I’m half Japanese and live in Japan.
I couldn’t find any info about that but that would make a lot of sense and answer the question why you can still buy it new. In my opinion, un-limiting a “limited edition” is quite a d*ck move to your fanbase (but a “limited edition” without serial already kinda is the same.
@@WatchEra Great video. It is being re-released again just this month, and it's the first proper watch I've bought, having always been a smart watch guy. Surprisingly (or maybe not?) still being sold at the original launch price of 55,000 JPY
Maybe it's not popular because for all that money, you get a Hardex with no AR coating instead of sapphire crystal, a pressed clasps instead of milled, an unsigned crown, hollow end links and 4R movement that while it's a workhorse, it can be found in $200 Seiko 5 Sports. In fact, specs wise, this is very similar to the 5KX.
Yes, definetly agreed and the point i’m making in the video too. Value for money this doesn’t rank high at all - what probably is something alot of seiko buyers are looking for!
@@WatchEra I love the design, though. But it's selling for $750 in my area and for that money, I expect something better. Especially when in my country Seikos are usually cheaper. With the King Samurai Manta Ray with ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal for only $350 brand new, spending double that for something that's objectively inferior doesn't seem sensible to me.
I don't see the appeal. It has a decent case, but hollow end links that look terrible between the lugs, unsigned crown, pressed clasp, etc. this is a hard, hard pass. Jody's Erebus Ascent kicks this to the curb. This feels like the beginning of Seiko's descent into the overpriced, crappy 5s we're all living with today at the "value" end of the spectrum.
I was in Japan last year and I located this watch at a store after a long search. Upon seeing it, though, I decided not to even handle it. My impression was that while it looked great on pictures, it looked lacklustre in person, almost as if it was old; not by reason of clever design, but rather by someone wearing it for years. Given the specs/price ratio, it just didn't seem worth it. For what's worth, I found the Alpinist SPB117 for an extra $50 somewhere else in Tokyo. The choice of which between those two was easy.
Comparing this to an alpinist (sarb or spb) is almost unfair battle, 100% agreed there. The value for money ratio on this is not what is appealing here :) I also think that the alpinist will never bore me, and this might grow old in a few years. Also going to Japan next year, excited to see what Seiko’s I can find there :)
You mention the after market bracelet a few times, but didn’t say where it came from or who made it. I ask this because the reviews I’ve seen about the original bracelet gives it a fair bit of criticism. Your thoughts on the bracelet?
Hi! I don’t know what aftermarket brand or make it is, it is unmarked and bought it with the watch from previous owner. I think most/all SARB033 bracelets should fit, Strapcode is promoting their SARB bracelets for the SZSB006 too. Genuine bracelet is really “meh” - flimsy links, hollow end links, folding bracelet. A better bracelet or new strap in my opinion is a must for this watch, quite unfortunate for a 4-500$ purchase.
@@WatchEra thanks for the follow up response! I’ve bookmarked the Strapsco article in case of future purchase. I’m gonna give the original one a chance, and replace if needed. I’ve never worn a bracelet on a watch before, so I have no experience with them.
@@FWIWDept No worries! I have all my sub ~1000 seikos on aftermarket bracelets from either Strapcode or Uncle Seiko - gamechanger in terms of quality and wearability and they up the watches so much in total appearance and quality in my opinion, once you have worn and changed / swapped links on a better bracelet you never want different ;-)
Also after wearing for a couple of months, this is definitely worth the $500 I paid for it. Can’t compete with a $750 Alpinist, but it’s also completely unique if you’re outside of Japan and is kind of limited. Either way, it was on my Alpinist/Alpinist adjacent bucket list, and I’m super happy with it. Only criticism is I’d like it to be 38mm. 🤷🏻♂️
@@daveLin104 I do have a regular Alpinist as well as a “baby”. The baby fits me the best and is my favorite of the bunch since I have smaller 6.75” wrists. 38mm is my sweet spot. For my wrist, the 48mm lug to lug on the TicTac is about as wide as I wanna go. And while the hands are similar to the Alpinist on the TicTac, the dial looks on the cheap side in comparison. That said, I am one of the few that love the bracelet that it comes on and prefer it to a nato or leather(tried both) and don’t think a bracelet quite works with the Alpinist line. Hope that helps! Let me know if there’s anything I can answer or expand upon. Cheers!
@FWIWDept thanks so much for getting back to me 👍think youbhave steered me to the alpinist or baby alpinist both look great. I had my eye on the blue glacier spb197 or green baby alpinist can't decide 😫 I have the same size wrist as you. Do you find the baby a bit thick or not ?
@@daveLin104 nice, I didn’t know that glacier blue existed! I don’t find the baby too thick at all, in fact it’s currently the most perfect fitting watch in my collection. Not to mention the fume style dial on the grey, green, and blue just make it punch above its weight. They’re also endless fun with the strap variation that you can do. I’ve got at least 4 that I rotate on it.
@FWIWDept sounds great what dial have you got in the baby ? I like the black but I have a khaki 38mm auto and mechanical so would be a little too similar thats why I was looking at green :)
I picked one up lightly used last month and am really pleased with it. I loved it ever since release, but as you said it was going for a lot of money initially. I had reached out to a few pre-owned sellers over the years and they were around US$600, but in the end I wasn't sure it was worth quite that much. I got mine for $475 shipped from a U.S. individual seller. I really love the vintage vibe (cathedral hands, matte dial, faux patina lume) combined with the more modern sizing. Even the original bracelet with hollow end links and pressed clasp contribute to that vintage feel. I also have an SBDC119/SPB159 baby Alpinist on the Alpinist bracelet. Comparing the two, the Alpinist is clearly better built in every aspect. However, I do like the 40mm size of the TicTAC over the 38mm Alpinist and the Alpinist has a combination of faux patina and white lume that doesn't work quite as well. Not only that, but the shade of the faux patina on the Alpinist is not as good as the TicTAC. On the Alpinist's side though, that white lume does glow much brighter. The TicTAC is certainly acceptable, but not at the typical Seiko wow levels. The TicTAC does get it right by making the numerals lumed, which Seiko should have done on the baby Alpinist. Anyway, it's an interesting contrast. Ironically, I picked up the baby Alpinist for only US$400 for a much better built watch, but those were readily available globally before Seiko apparently discontinued that and a few other Alpinists not long ago. I saw an SZSB028 for sale the other day for only $375. I don't think that one is as in demand and really the sunburst blue dial does not have the same vintage vibe. I would like to see one in person at some point though. I took my TicTAC to a watch meet recently and multiple people offered to buy it if I ever decided to sell it.
I also tried to get this in 2019 and it was basically impossible unless you wanted to pay the ridiculous markups on the secondary market. I did find the 007 version and settled for that. About a year plus ago I noted that TicTac Japan were selling them online and purchased mine new directly from them. It turns out Seiko were batch releasing them. I heard there are tens of thousands of units made. So not really that they are unpopular but more like a shit ton out there trickling through. Seiko are notorious for this and a Limited Edition to them is yet another cash grab as inevitably there’s another one that comes along in a different colour way. That being said I love both of mine and will never sell either.
That would make a lot more sense actually and also explain why it is still being sold new. Honestly I’m a big Seiko fan boy but these kind of “limited edition” tricks really make me steer away from it a bit…
@@WatchEra Sometimes it works in your favor, though. I still really want that Ginza Alpinist, but refuse to pay the second hand mark up. Holding out hope they do another release with a minor change.
I would consider buying one if I didn't have the SARB017 Alpinist. Maybe I should sell my Alpinist and buy the TicTac... After 6 years I'm getting a little bored with with it.
@@George_Lewis I own a SARB017 and the SZSB006 still. Look, if you’re bored of a watch and it doesn’t get wrist time… sell it - for sure! But from a quality/price perspective, I would never trade my SARB against this SZSB, the Sarb wins in pretty much every aspect - it is overall a better made watch.
The moment you said "mineral crystal" - I lost all interest. but this applies to any and every watch. if it doesn't have a sapphire crystal - I'm not interested.
Didn't even watch the vid and can say its way over priced. Just a seiko 5 with a different dial. 4r with harlex. Why would i buy this when seiko themselves have similar watches at cheaper prices.
No Sapphire No AR for $500 .... plus dumb seiko limited edition . Frankly Seiko is disrespecting the customer. You get better value from Microbrand and chinese brands , even citizen Nb1050 and tusyosa offer better value
Would you buy the SZSB006?
Maybe for $300 max. For $200 I'll buy it for sure.
SZSB028 with blue dial, definitely would buy
Finally found one used from Japan from an independent seller and not a dealer for $500. Money well spent, and I actually like the bracelet that comes with it.
@@FWIWDepthow does it wear with different straps? This looks like it would make a great present for my boyfriend’s birthday!
Yes
too be honest, I love it that it has hints of the Rolex explorer 1016.
I own this watch and love it! I call it the Mount Fuji explorer. It fits my 7 1/4 inch wrist very well and goes with everything.
Love the “Fuji Explorer” Nickname! Well said 👍🏻
I like the original stainless steel bracelet. It works for me.
I like how you get straight to the point.
Thank you! No need for chit chat :)
Immiadetely subscribed, great review, brought a watch that I didn’t know and gave a very good run down on it.
Thank you, I appreciate that! Always fun to show people something “new” :)
Hello Era
This is the first time I've seen your channel, great looking watch & good review 👍 just Subscribed!
Yes i would buy this watch .
Hi Junior, thank you very much! 👍🏻🔥
I think it's one of the best Alpinist styled watches out there . I purchased the bigger Hamiltion Murph at the time
Definitely agreed! The Murph is great, definitely has the same unique selling points with the cathedral hands and faux patina - definetly a model that deserves more love too :)
Excellent review. I’m going to check out this Psycho 😊. I’m now a subscriber. Keep the reviews and interesting content coming
Thank you for the sub & comment Captain 6105! There’s definetly more Psycho’s coming! Both new and vintage ;-)
I could listen to your accent all day
Thoughts on the cream dial tictac
I got the last one in one of Tokyo‘s tic tac stores (blue one) in 11/23. For 290€. Love it on the Strapcode angus Jubilee. It’s so sexy, it says 😛😛😛😛to all oyster case based watches with a crown it passes like a cool Danelectro guitar passing vintage Les Paul‘s or a classic Citroen passing a bunch of Porsche‘s.
I came to the seiko game later and missed out on the affordable sarb033. In its place I purchased the dress model szsb007 on a deployment strap. Paid retail from Tic Tac. It has faults, what watch doesn’t. Depending on the light, the hands get lost on the silver sun burst dial, but I find it ticks all the boxes for a affordable watch to wear in the evening. By the way, the 4r35 is a good movement. Who cares about specs and accuracy when you wear it on occasion every other week.
Well done review, big SARB fan here, subscribed.
Thank you! Definitely a fan of the SARB models here - especially the 033/035 and 017 are cult classics on its own for good reasons!
@@WatchEra I agree, I feel very lucky to have all three, just lucky timing when I started collecting. The SZSB006 would be my top tic tac version.
I just LOVE the look of this watch. Movement or glass quality be damned. :D
Ordered it for 435€ last week. Groetjes vanuit Amsterdam
great review! I wanna buy this watch after watching your video and I want to buy the bracelet too😂 do you have any idea what brand is it？
I have no idea, as it it unmarked and came with the watch from the previous owner. Strapcode sells its SARB033/035 bracelets as “fitting on SZSB006” so I think it’s an aliexpres/ebay SARB bracelet :)
I love this watch too
Nice!! 👍🏻✔️
I agree with you: the cathedral hands and the "fox" patina are the best bits about this watch. The Seagull 1963 is a far better use of a display caseback.
Given their pricing, cheaping out and build quality, I hope you'll keep using the "Psycho" pronunciation.
OK watch and a very nice review. Cheers 🍻!
Agreed! I don’t really see the “value” of see-through caseback on any standard off the shelf no-complications movements, but you see it fairly often, so brands do it with a reason?
I’m trying to say seiko properly and well aware but its not in the system yet 😂
Thank you for the extended reply! Cheers Robin
@@WatchEra Please use you regular pronunciation - I'm not making fun of you, believe me, but rather the Seikopaths.
Have a great day!
Hey, where did you get the president bracelet? it looks stunning ❤❤
I have no idea - it came on the watch when I bought it from the first owner.
Love how you pronounce Seiko as Psycho in American English.
I’m aware of the mispronunciation but its hard to change something like that 😂
@@WatchEra never change, bro! That is pretty hilarious. And awesome.
It was released again earlier this year or late last year JDM and no longer is a limited edition! The blue color too. I’m half Japanese and live in Japan.
I couldn’t find any info about that but that would make a lot of sense and answer the question why you can still buy it new. In my opinion, un-limiting a “limited edition” is quite a d*ck move to your fanbase (but a “limited edition” without serial already kinda is the same.
@@WatchEra Great video. It is being re-released again just this month, and it's the first proper watch I've bought, having always been a smart watch guy. Surprisingly (or maybe not?) still being sold at the original launch price of 55,000 JPY
Maybe it's not popular because for all that money, you get a Hardex with no AR coating instead of sapphire crystal, a pressed clasps instead of milled, an unsigned crown, hollow end links and 4R movement that while it's a workhorse, it can be found in $200 Seiko 5 Sports. In fact, specs wise, this is very similar to the 5KX.
Yes, definetly agreed and the point i’m making in the video too.
Value for money this doesn’t rank high at all - what probably is something alot of seiko buyers are looking for!
@@WatchEra I love the design, though. But it's selling for $750 in my area and for that money, I expect something better. Especially when in my country Seikos are usually cheaper. With the King Samurai Manta Ray with ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal for only $350 brand new, spending double that for something that's objectively inferior doesn't seem sensible to me.
I don't see the appeal. It has a decent case, but hollow end links that look terrible between the lugs, unsigned crown, pressed clasp, etc. this is a hard, hard pass. Jody's Erebus Ascent kicks this to the curb.
This feels like the beginning of Seiko's descent into the overpriced, crappy 5s we're all living with today at the "value" end of the spectrum.
Wrist size?
@@rychartz Hi! Around 17,5 cm :)
I was in Japan last year and I located this watch at a store after a long search. Upon seeing it, though, I decided not to even handle it. My impression was that while it looked great on pictures, it looked lacklustre in person, almost as if it was old; not by reason of clever design, but rather by someone wearing it for years. Given the specs/price ratio, it just didn't seem worth it. For what's worth, I found the Alpinist SPB117 for an extra $50 somewhere else in Tokyo. The choice of which between those two was easy.
Comparing this to an alpinist (sarb or spb) is almost unfair battle, 100% agreed there. The value for money ratio on this is not what is appealing here :)
I also think that the alpinist will never bore me, and this might grow old in a few years.
Also going to Japan next year, excited to see what Seiko’s I can find there :)
Beautiful... why its look thick like 13mm ?
Because it is quite thick - the caseback adds (unnecessarily) around 2-3mm
@@WatchEraso thr thickness is 13mm or still 11mm?
It says limited but anyone knows how many were actually manufactured?
Does it have sapphire?
Unfortunately, we are not blessed like that and it has a domed mineral crystal.
You mention the after market bracelet a few times, but didn’t say where it came from or who made it. I ask this because the reviews I’ve seen about the original bracelet gives it a fair bit of criticism. Your thoughts on the bracelet?
Hi! I don’t know what aftermarket brand or make it is, it is unmarked and bought it with the watch from previous owner.
I think most/all SARB033 bracelets should fit, Strapcode is promoting their SARB bracelets for the SZSB006 too.
Genuine bracelet is really “meh” - flimsy links, hollow end links, folding bracelet.
A better bracelet or new strap in my opinion is a must for this watch, quite unfortunate for a 4-500$ purchase.
@@WatchEra thanks for the follow up response! I’ve bookmarked the Strapsco article in case of future purchase. I’m gonna give the original one a chance, and replace if needed. I’ve never worn a bracelet on a watch before, so I have no experience with them.
@@FWIWDept No worries! I have all my sub ~1000 seikos on aftermarket bracelets from either Strapcode or Uncle Seiko - gamechanger in terms of quality and wearability and they up the watches so much in total appearance and quality in my opinion, once you have worn and changed / swapped links on a better bracelet you never want different ;-)
u coming back?
Some people said the real thickness is 13mm not 11mm...which one is the real thickness?
Sorry for the late reply, my exact measurements are 13.09mm with the crystal, 11.42mm without the crystal.
@@WatchEra yeah thank you for replying, already buy the watch. Its very proportional design case i think.
It's actually pretty popular here in Southeast Asia
I wouldn’t completely be suprised! perhaps the fact that it was an in-store Japan JDM does matter for it’s market & popularity after all.
Also after wearing for a couple of months, this is definitely worth the $500 I paid for it. Can’t compete with a $750 Alpinist, but it’s also completely unique if you’re outside of Japan and is kind of limited. Either way, it was on my Alpinist/Alpinist adjacent bucket list, and I’m super happy with it. Only criticism is I’d like it to be 38mm. 🤷🏻♂️
Do you have the alpinist as well ? If so how does it compare to this watch thanks
@@daveLin104 I do have a regular Alpinist as well as a “baby”. The baby fits me the best and is my favorite of the bunch since I have smaller 6.75” wrists. 38mm is my sweet spot. For my wrist, the 48mm lug to lug on the TicTac is about as wide as I wanna go. And while the hands are similar to the Alpinist on the TicTac, the dial looks on the cheap side in comparison. That said, I am one of the few that love the bracelet that it comes on and prefer it to a nato or leather(tried both) and don’t think a bracelet quite works with the Alpinist line. Hope that helps! Let me know if there’s anything I can answer or expand upon. Cheers!
@FWIWDept thanks so much for getting back to me 👍think youbhave steered me to the alpinist or baby alpinist both look great. I had my eye on the blue glacier spb197 or green baby alpinist can't decide 😫 I have the same size wrist as you. Do you find the baby a bit thick or not ?
@@daveLin104 nice, I didn’t know that glacier blue existed! I don’t find the baby too thick at all, in fact it’s currently the most perfect fitting watch in my collection. Not to mention the fume style dial on the grey, green, and blue just make it punch above its weight. They’re also endless fun with the strap variation that you can do. I’ve got at least 4 that I rotate on it.
@FWIWDept sounds great what dial have you got in the baby ? I like the black but I have a khaki 38mm auto and mechanical so would be a little too similar thats why I was looking at green :)
In 38mm I would buy it. Personally, I find 40mm for a simple three hander too big.
Addies have done a 38mm homage for ⅒ of the price
I picked one up lightly used last month and am really pleased with it. I loved it ever since release, but as you said it was going for a lot of money initially. I had reached out to a few pre-owned sellers over the years and they were around US$600, but in the end I wasn't sure it was worth quite that much. I got mine for $475 shipped from a U.S. individual seller. I really love the vintage vibe (cathedral hands, matte dial, faux patina lume) combined with the more modern sizing. Even the original bracelet with hollow end links and pressed clasp contribute to that vintage feel. I also have an SBDC119/SPB159 baby Alpinist on the Alpinist bracelet. Comparing the two, the Alpinist is clearly better built in every aspect. However, I do like the 40mm size of the TicTAC over the 38mm Alpinist and the Alpinist has a combination of faux patina and white lume that doesn't work quite as well. Not only that, but the shade of the faux patina on the Alpinist is not as good as the TicTAC. On the Alpinist's side though, that white lume does glow much brighter. The TicTAC is certainly acceptable, but not at the typical Seiko wow levels. The TicTAC does get it right by making the numerals lumed, which Seiko should have done on the baby Alpinist. Anyway, it's an interesting contrast. Ironically, I picked up the baby Alpinist for only US$400 for a much better built watch, but those were readily available globally before Seiko apparently discontinued that and a few other Alpinists not long ago.
I saw an SZSB028 for sale the other day for only $375. I don't think that one is as in demand and really the sunburst blue dial does not have the same vintage vibe. I would like to see one in person at some point though. I took my TicTAC to a watch meet recently and multiple people offered to buy it if I ever decided to sell it.
I also tried to get this in 2019 and it was basically impossible unless you wanted to pay the ridiculous markups on the secondary market. I did find the 007 version and settled for that. About a year plus ago I noted that TicTac Japan were selling them online and purchased mine new directly from them. It turns out Seiko were batch releasing them. I heard there are tens of thousands of units made. So not really that they are unpopular but more like a shit ton out there trickling through. Seiko are notorious for this and a Limited Edition to them is yet another cash grab as inevitably there’s another one that comes along in a different colour way. That being said I love both of mine and will never sell either.
That would make a lot more sense actually and also explain why it is still being sold new.
Honestly I’m a big Seiko fan boy but these kind of “limited edition” tricks really make me steer away from it a bit…
@@WatchEra Sometimes it works in your favor, though. I still really want that Ginza Alpinist, but refuse to pay the second hand mark up. Holding out hope they do another release with a minor change.
Nice, interesting watch...I didn't know about it until now. Is the crown screw-in?? Thanks.
Glad I could show a new watch! Crown is not screwed in, its only 100m rated too.
If I had the money, I'd buy it.
The neverending problem when you’re watch enthousiast isn’t it… money ;-)
I think it's not as popular because it's a Japan Domestic Market exclusive and it's pretty obscure with normal customers outside of Japan.
Not a fan of the crown guard. But the rest is amazing
Hi Jonas! This seems to be what more people think and say - what is it you dislike about it? Rather no crown guards at all?
@@WatchEra The crown is hefty, so either none at all, or giving the guard some more presence with a slightly smaller crown.
Cheers
Welcome! 👍🏻
I would consider buying one if I didn't have the SARB017 Alpinist. Maybe I should sell my Alpinist and buy the TicTac... After 6 years I'm getting a little bored with with it.
@@George_Lewis I own a SARB017 and the SZSB006 still. Look, if you’re bored of a watch and it doesn’t get wrist time… sell it - for sure!
But from a quality/price perspective, I would never trade my SARB against this SZSB, the Sarb wins in pretty much every aspect - it is overall a better made watch.
Price if you can
Around 4-500$ on the second hand market (Chrono24, ebay, forums/reddit)
The crown guard is not nice. If only they do it without the weird crown guard
They are overpriced. Just that simple. $200 tops for 4r and mineral, but good luck finding for less than $350.
i’m happy is not popular as i got mine with ease & no manipulation
I agree! Some other recent watches are impossible to purchase for "normal" prices - pretty annoying :(
Too long l2l, does not look porpotioned
The moment you said "mineral crystal" - I lost all interest. but this applies to any and every watch. if it doesn't have a sapphire crystal - I'm not interested.
A fair opinion / standpoint that many owners hold, unfortunately mineral / hardlex is very standard on many sub 1000$ seiko’s even.
Do you knock your watch alot?
Didn't even watch the vid and can say its way over priced. Just a seiko 5 with a different dial. 4r with harlex. Why would i buy this when seiko themselves have similar watches at cheaper prices.
Perhaps watch the video first. Value 2 specs is not everything and it’s not a seiko 5 ;-)
mineral crystals is deal braker
hardlex, meh movement, display back = no bueno for the price
Definetly not wrong there!
It is expensive
In perspective, it is!
No Sapphire No AR for $500 .... plus dumb seiko limited edition .
Frankly Seiko is disrespecting the customer. You get better value from Microbrand and chinese brands , even citizen Nb1050 and tusyosa offer better value
LOL at "fox" patina. That's not how you pronounce faux.
I’m not french, no clue how they say it.
@@WatchEra it's pronounced "faw" like "law" 😊
The crown guards spoil the watch IMO, basically a dumbed down alpinist.