Still, the fact that people made that thinking "yeah this is ok, let's put this in arcades" baffles me. Apparently hardly ANY arcades would accept it, but it ended up being everywhere in third world countries.
Jesus Christ, that Wax Works game! There's something about that style that is more unsettling than any recent game. It actually reminds me of the art from the three EC horror comics. There was one artist on the team who was very good at making things...drip, be it a candle's melting wax or rotten flesh sliding off a zombie's bones. I think the last name was Ingles or something. His style was so disturbing that his talent at it unsettled him and he eventually quit.
In case anyone cares, the message that slowly gets uncovered between levels says "YOU HAVE FOUND EVERY TALISMAN." Mike is right that the covered message shows you exactly what you're supposed to be shooting (the "talismans") in the game's four levels to uncover the message. When you get them all, you go to a pointless bonus stage which is just a bunch of ghost faces floating from the bottom of the screen to the top that you have to shoot.
I remember reading about this game in a magazine and being really disturbed just by the descriptions they gave to the stages. Also, I also read somewhere that the development house where the game was made got haunted and got plagued with spiders or something. Really crazy.
The reason why the hit detection for the lightguns in Chiller is so poor is because unlike Duck Hunt or The Adventures of Bayou Billy where the "hitboxes" flash white, Chiller's flashes red. So to play at a comfortable level, you'd have to adjust your TV's settings to gaudy brightness and saturation levels.
I had this when I was a little fella. It creeped me out because it was so obscure, and the cartridge was like no other. It was like I found "The Ring" of games. So disappointed that it got lost in my childhood. This and Gargoyle's Quest 2, sought after by collectors, lost.
Hey James and Mike, ever thought about giving Clock Tower a whirl for next Halloween? It's said to be the grandfather of survival horror games, and probably still holds up today.
Exidy was way ahead of their time. They made Death Race in 1976 where you're goal is to run over people (aka gremlins), which was outrageous for the time and then Chiller in 1986.
Such an unusual game. Would like to know the full story... The graphics and music are super-low-budget, but it actually seems like there are alot more interactive parts of the screen than you would expect.
4:02 never heard about Waxworks, but i played Elivra "Mistress of the Dark" from 1990. 2 Years before Waxworks and looks like the same style and really violent.
Best quote, "...and you're just dissecting their bodies with your bullets," in reference to the arcade game "Chiller" while playing the NES version (see MAME for original).
I think I had this game for the C64. What a blast from the past! Thank you for doing the review. I'm only a few years older than you but like you, grew up on the NES and C64.
I remember this one game my cousin and I played a long time ago that use to disturb the hell out of me. I think it was a pc game I can't remember but it had this little boy who's dog got abducted by aliens or something and he goes off to save him but he's just a little boy and every time you fuck up it depicts this kid getting his head bit off by monsters, getting crushed, drowning, basically all the works lol it was awful. I forget the name of it but I hope someone remembers. The only thing I remember is that this poor little boy was always getting massacred.
I don't think I saw chiller at funspot. I may have missed it. But I did see death race where you just run over people for points and it makes this loud high pitched sound.
I suppose the "For Sharedata" gaffe was placed in there by a third party who developed the game for them (whoever that happened to be, much in the way Atlus did games for LJN).
I remember playing this game in the arcade. It started in the torture camber. I was a little kid and had no idea what to do since I didn't know that I was suppose to shoot the people. I ended up waiting for monsters until the time ran out.
Lol am I the only one who enjoyes the James and Mike Mondays/specials, as much if not more at time than avgn. That's coming from someone who has avgn DVDs lolol.
Umm is it just me or did the music towards the beginning 1:23 sound just like the ending part of feel a fear (eddy's theme song) from guilty gear?? It sounds way too similar.. wtf?
Surprised Chiller of all things would get ported to NES even illegally. Reminds me of how it sucked you couldn't get an arcade perfect port until like the early 00's.
I completely forgot about this game! I remembered when you said about shooting her and seeing her rip cage! Actually was a fun and graphic game for it's time! Thanks for bringing back some good memories James and Mike!
James, Mike, everyone: For a great review of Waxworks and this game Chiller please see Super Adventures in Gaming review and Just Games Retro as well. And yeah you can feed people to the alligator in this game!
I think the gore in that game hasn't been matched ever since. There's something about it that makes it extra creepy. Maybe it's the color palette plus the pixel art drawn over a guy posing in a photo.
Flaviu Val Not really the same. The gore in Waxworks wasn't that cartoony, and had lots of detail. It's also drawn over an actor. I do remember seeing the original box art for Isle of the Dead at a computer store way back when, and was intrigued by it. Too bad the game is crap.
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I couldn's stop laughing when I saw Mike transform into an arcade machine at 2:10 :P
James and Arcade Mondays
"I feel so bad for these people, they're already being tortured -"
"LOOK THERE'S A GUY TIED UP AND THERE'S AN ALLIGATOR!"
I just looked at some footage of the arcade game. How the hell did a game like that get made??
Wow, that really is very violent. Actually I'm gonna give a + for that (y)
Hello
It was made 8 years before ESRB ratings.
Still, the fact that people made that thinking "yeah this is ok, let's put this in arcades" baffles me.
Apparently hardly ANY arcades would accept it, but it ended up being everywhere in third world countries.
NitroRad well this is more excusable than that trucker game that was released in the early 2000's
Cher Dada
Dude..you watch this too? Sick!!
Angthony Nerdtano
What are you doing here, Bandano?
you fucking guy
Do some kind of collab with James and Mike !
Kevin Smith getting killed at around 4:40 ?
I was thinking the same thing
thats my favorite part
no its dspgaming
Joel Eustice this is what you get for that last shitty movie
Jesus Christ, that Wax Works game! There's something about that style that is more unsettling than any recent game. It actually reminds me of the art from the three EC horror comics. There was one artist on the team who was very good at making things...drip, be it a candle's melting wax or rotten flesh sliding off a zombie's bones. I think the last name was Ingles or something. His style was so disturbing that his talent at it unsettled him and he eventually quit.
Waxworks is insane. It's probably one of the most violent games ever made.
It's amazing.
In case anyone cares, the message that slowly gets uncovered between levels says "YOU HAVE FOUND EVERY TALISMAN." Mike is right that the covered message shows you exactly what you're supposed to be shooting (the "talismans") in the game's four levels to uncover the message. When you get them all, you go to a pointless bonus stage which is just a bunch of ghost faces floating from the bottom of the screen to the top that you have to shoot.
I remember reading about this game in a magazine and being really disturbed just by the descriptions they gave to the stages. Also, I also read somewhere that the development house where the game was made got haunted and got plagued with spiders or something. Really crazy.
The reason why the hit detection for the lightguns in Chiller is so poor is because unlike Duck Hunt or The Adventures of Bayou Billy where the "hitboxes" flash white, Chiller's flashes red. So to play at a comfortable level, you'd have to adjust your TV's settings to gaudy brightness and saturation levels.
that game waxworks for 1992 holy shit and i will say the game is still gory as hell 25 years later
Nothing is more nostalgic then the clack, clack, clack of the controllers.
I had this when I was a little fella. It creeped me out because it was so obscure, and the cartridge was like no other. It was like I found "The Ring" of games. So disappointed that it got lost in my childhood. This and Gargoyle's Quest 2, sought after by collectors, lost.
I sense this would have made a good AVGN episode. Looks like there's plenty of frustration material.
Guys please play waxworks - i think it sounds really interesting
Killing the last boss of Waxworks was some of the most brutally violent over the top shit ever.
I Played Waxworks in 1992! Scarred me for Life!
So many videos uploaded recently. Thanks for all your work Mike and James!
Hey James and Mike, ever thought about giving Clock Tower a whirl for next Halloween? It's said to be the grandfather of survival horror games, and probably still holds up today.
the woman in the torture room is also covered in the arcade version
Exidy was way ahead of their time. They made Death Race in 1976 where you're goal is to run over people (aka gremlins), which was outrageous for the time and then Chiller in 1986.
I was born in the 2000s and this game was at the bowling alley. It was extremely nightmare inducing.
Amazing that they had it for that long.
@@applescruff1969 I think they got rid of it around 2006 or 2007 but the fact that the game was there for so long baffles me.
I played the arcade version in a hotel in Radcliff, KY, circa 1994. It was the only game they had besides a pinball machine.
4:35 I think Kevin Smith was the main character in that Waxworks game.
The Arcade game is so dope! As well as Crossbow and Cheyenne
Awesome Guilty Gear midi use in this video. Thumbs up for that.
Thought I recognized Eddie's theme.
it's actually not a midi; it's redone on the NES: inversephase.bandcamp.com/album/the-midnight-chiptunes
Mikes 3 years older than me. That's a surprise he looks very Young for his age
Is that Eddie/Zato1 theme from Guilty Gear on the background?
Such an unusual game. Would like to know the full story... The graphics and music are super-low-budget, but it actually seems like there are alot more interactive parts of the screen than you would expect.
Is that an 8-bit verson of Sanctify by Nine Inch Nails in the background?
yes, from this: inversephase.bandcamp.com/album/pretty-eight-machine
inversephase Right on man! I noticed Sanctified in this video as well and was tripping out! Great job! :D
Thanks so much for the bonus videos guys, I look forward to them every week
I played Chiller in a couple of arcades when I was a kid. I loved it so much! still one of the best games I've ever played
James changed a lot in 10 years.. can tell the years passing but Mike didn't change at all.. looks even younger than before lol
5:09
I am surprised they didn't keep playing until the message was fully unscrambled.
What is the message?
Yagi Hige YOU HAVE
-F...something?
I always like how when you guys are referring to something else you show that on screen for a moment, good editing.
I've SEEN Chiller in the arcade back when I was in college.
4:02 never heard about Waxworks, but i played Elivra "Mistress of the Dark" from 1990. 2 Years before Waxworks and looks like the same style and really violent.
Nice 8bit Guilty Gear music! Does the game usually have no music at all and you replaced it with Guilty Gear?
the actual game has music more comparable to something on the 2600, lol
Sounds more like Sanctified by Nine Inch Nails
Nintendo used to censore everything at the time, impressing that this game actually came out.
This was a unlicensed nes game
James was wrong, the woman in the arcade version IS covered.
You're right, but the arcade version still has bare breasts in another stage.
The nekkid woman in the arcade game is the zombie woman in the center of the Graveyard.
Thank you for the bonus videos!!!
Waxworks is available on Good Old Games. Go get it, people!
Best quote, "...and you're just dissecting their bodies with your bullets," in reference to the arcade game "Chiller" while playing the NES version (see MAME for original).
I think I had this game for the C64. What a blast from the past! Thank you for doing the review. I'm only a few years older than you but like you, grew up on the NES and C64.
4:38 OMG! God of War III, the 1992 version!
Is that the music from "The Rescue Of Pops Ghostly' at 2:33? Hysterical!
Waxworks looks like those old horror comics I used to read whenever my dad took me to the barbershop.
Happy Halloween guys thanks for the extra video! ;)
I messaged you on TH-cam like 8 years ago to do a video on this game. Glad you finally did it :-D
I remember this one game my cousin and I played a long time ago that use to disturb the hell out of me. I think it was a pc game I can't remember but it had this little boy who's dog got abducted by aliens or something and he goes off to save him but he's just a little boy and every time you fuck up it depicts this kid getting his head bit off by monsters, getting crushed, drowning, basically all the works lol it was awful. I forget the name of it but I hope someone remembers. The only thing I remember is that this poor little boy was always getting massacred.
That's Heart of Darkness on the PlayStation.
ConkadeWonko Yea that's it. Totally forgot what the name was.
I remember it, it's Heart of Darkness, ahha i was also traumatized by that game, it's great!
This has to be the most violent nes game I’ve seen
I don't think I saw chiller at funspot. I may have missed it. But I did see death race where you just run over people for points and it makes this loud high pitched sound.
You spoil us with all these new videos, Mike and James. Thanks!
Also curious about this Waxworks game, I really never heard of it until now.
As a kid, loved Phantasmagoria
Thanks for your preview I’m definitely buying this NES game
I'd love to see Mike and James go through the Waxworks games.
You guys are the best. Keep making awesome videos and we will continue to be awesome fans!
I suppose the "For Sharedata" gaffe was placed in there by a third party who developed the game for them (whoever that happened to be, much in the way Atlus did games for LJN).
Loved the NIN 8 bit remix
feel free to check out the rest! inversephase.bandcamp.com/album/pretty-eight-machine
OMG THE MIDI! =O "I am Sanctified!" Shhhck! "I am Justified!" Shhhck!
Was wondering why I had NIN in my head for some reason.
i just noticed that as well! awesome use of a great song!!
Barcade in Brooklyn puts out Chiller every October.
I remember playing this game in the arcade. It started in the torture camber. I was a little kid and had no idea what to do since I didn't know that I was suppose to shoot the people. I ended up waiting for monsters until the time ran out.
Wow, truly a game where you play as the monster! Nothing even attacks you.
The oldest classic gaming reviewer still does youtube pretty much the best of all time!
GUILTY GEAR OST IN 8-BIT? I need that
I think you missed a switch at the top of the screen in the second dungeon scene, i think it electrocutes the girl in the iron maiden type device.
Lol am I the only one who enjoyes the James and Mike Mondays/specials, as much if not more at time than avgn. That's coming from someone who has avgn DVDs lolol.
I'm loving these bonus Halloween videos. :)
Yes! What is this the gameboy version of Feel a Fear playing in the background?
Music is an 8 bit representation of 'Feel a Fear' from the Guilty Gear series.
+ARX78 oh hey, someone else noticed
+ARX78 Also the intro music is Feedback, the opening theme for Guilty Gear XX which is awesome to hear
Nine Inch Nail's "Sanctified" plays for a while as well.
You guys are awesome!!! thanks for all the videos this month :) Happy Halloween!!
4:34- Huh, it's DSP.
If only...
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT this game is so fucking stupid man.
Finally some love for Waxworks and the awesome Elvira games.
I love the Guilty Gear background music that you put in your video.
Inverse Phase! I own and love his "Pretty Eight Machine" album (chiptune version of "Pretty Hate Machine"). Awesome stuff!
I need more of this in my life
How many would put them on location? Anyone who had a 200 pound paperweight called Crossbow. It was a conversion kit for that game.
The music at the very end of the video sounded like an 8-bit rendition of "Sanctified" by Nine Inch Nails.
Why is Kevin Smith getting his head ripped off at 4:40?
You guys might be interested to know that Waxworks is on sale on GOG this weekend for $1.99.
I remember Wax Works!! and yes, it was definitely violent.
Umm is it just me or did the music towards the beginning 1:23 sound just like the ending part of feel a fear (eddy's theme song) from guilty gear?? It sounds way too similar.. wtf?
Nice drop of Waxworks Mike. Pretty cool game. Unofficial continuation to the first two Elvira RPG / Adventure games.
Surprised Chiller of all things would get ported to NES even illegally. Reminds me of how it sucked you couldn't get an arcade perfect port until like the early 00's.
Is that an 8 bit version of santificted by nine in nails in the end?
Hah im pretty sure an 8-bit version of the Nin song Sanctify is played in the background.
I completely forgot about this game! I remembered when you said about shooting her and seeing her rip cage! Actually was a fun and graphic game for it's time! Thanks for bringing back some good memories James and Mike!
James, Mike, everyone: For a great review of Waxworks and this game Chiller please see Super Adventures in Gaming review and Just Games Retro as well. And yeah you can feed people to the alligator in this game!
The only NES game to support two zappers at once and you’re using remotes?!?!
Now I wanna play the arcade
Loved Waxworks. It was very similar to Elvira 1-2.
It's also sold alone with both Elvira games in the Elvira Horror Pack.
Sandy McTire Oh really? Interesting. Good games.
I think the gore in that game hasn't been matched ever since. There's something about it that makes it extra creepy. Maybe it's the color palette plus the pixel art drawn over a guy posing in a photo.
Flaviu Val Not really the same. The gore in Waxworks wasn't that cartoony, and had lots of detail. It's also drawn over an actor. I do remember seeing the original box art for Isle of the Dead at a computer store way back when, and was intrigued by it. Too bad the game is crap.
Super Adventures in Gaming has excellent reviews of Isle of the Dead, Waxworks too. Just Games Retro might as well.
Two bonus episodes?!?! Time to sit down with the bowl of candy before the doorbell starts ringing
i saw chiller in the arcade as a kid and found it very disturbing lol.
That Waxworks game looks fucking nuts. SO much more violent and gory than mortal kombat.
The torture level wouldn't have to be toned down or really censored since this is an unlicensed game.
I loved this game in the arcade when I was like 10-11 years old
Used to play Waxworks for Amiga. A really scary game at the time. So brutal Death scenes I dont Think they are matched even today.
Again with Pretty 8 Machine. James and Mike are Nine Nails fans!
Loved the 8-bit Nine Inch Nails at the end!
0:30 It's just me or someone else can hear the Eddie's theme from Guilty Gear?
It's legit Eddie's theme.