Challaxe Luithiadir I know. James does incorporate truth into his reviews though. He has gotten more calm in his reviews and not as energetic. He has gone threw maturity. I remember when he redid Back to the Future and other older reviews, it really did make them better. When they played Friday the 13th, James was taking up for it until it got to a point were they couldn't stand it. Friday the 13th is mediocre at best, but it is playable. You can see where the developers where going with it. Same thing with Silver Surfer, a really hard, mediocre bullethell. I rather play Ikaruga or Gradius because they are better games, but that doesn't mean Silver Surfer shouldn't be picked on, there are other worse games that deserve it..
Challaxe Luithiadir One distinguish difference is that AVGN is generally seventeen minute reviews of the flaws in a game. James and Mike Mondays are twenty to forty minute playthroughs of games. They may point out some flaws, but overall they play to beat a game and not review it.
***** I don't think they put on an act when the get in front of a camera, so they are more focused on the game so weird conversations and replies happen.
I finally beat this game yesterday, it was a grand achievement. After so much stress and aggravation it is over. One of the hardest games I have ever played, without a doubt.
+Jake Sanderson (Film Composer) I beat it too. Since I don't have an NES I used an Emulator with a turbo button but no saving or anything. The day before I played it without the turbo option and I got a cramp in my back and shoulder so that I couldn't move for a day. Had to go to the pharmacy.
Bootsy has all the characteristics of a seasoned pro gamer. Completely rational and calm, no frustration whatsoever, insane finger speed. This dude is a fucking beast
***** Why is ex machina being used so much lately? I learned that in a Greek mythology class 10 years ago and never heard it outside of school until about a year or two ago. Now its all over the internet.
***** Deus ex machina is a really really really old literary plot device. Really, really, really old. People have been using it for hundreds of years you weirdo.
HAH 11:43 Mike references a hilarious part of the Silver Surfer AVGN episode and James just gets the best grin across his face and chuckles to himself like "fuck yeah I know I'm the man". Such a fucking badass
Just to show how much concentration this game requires: Mike: "There's the frogs in E.T." James: "How about the movie Frogs?" ..... Bootsy: "Oh yeah, the frogs in E.T.. heh.. hehehe"
Wielder of The Power Cosmic, clad in indestructible silver skin, able to transmute matter with a thought and fly throughout the universe. Has only one weakness: Frogs.
The one thing I'd change with this game is that I would make the terrain not kill you but instead just block you. Like normal terrain in any game. I'd make it clear which kind of terrain blocks you and which one doesn't.
***** Pretty much, even though silver surfer is hard as well. There is speed up stage that nearly impossible you too dodge it without rapidly dying in gradius/salamander
I like how the ending just goes Galactus: Oh good, you got that device, now give me- Surfer: Nope, I don't trust you with it, I'm gonna take it somewhere else. Galactus: Um...okay...=[
James says he didn't realize he could shoot backwards with that power up, but when he reviewed this game in 2007 he demonstrated it to us that you could do that. Did he forget? He must have forgotten that he knew that at one point haha
On the other hand, the ending is you saying "no" to Galactus, and he doesn't get another word in. I mean, does he just go "eh fine, oh well I kinda wanted that but there's nothing I can do if you refuse to hand it over, it's not like I'm some kind of space god or anything."
BaufenBeast I do not mean the "ending story line", I mean "the sequence of graphical and audio information that is played after you beat the game". I think that's also what James and Mike meant.
I agree. I mean, when you think of a typical NES gaem ending, you don't typically think of this, you typically think of "THIS STORY IS HAPPY END CONGLATURATION".
If I can change one thing about this game it would be. 1. Add a health bar ( 3 hit max) 2. Allow your character to touch the walls and survive. (Just as long as that wall has no spikes, fire etc.. )
Love this dude. Bringing in Bootsy is a great idea. Not only does he have interesting stuff to say when he talks, he lets Mike and James have a more organic conversation because they aren't so focused on playing the game.
I beat this game back in the day, but not gonna lie...it pretty much took months and months of trail and error, memorizing every stage, performing every stage to absolute perfection and of course...lots of stress, cursing and almost taking a hammer to the game a few times. Still...when I beat it finally and saw the ending....it was like climbing K2, only to trip and fall into a frozen turd at the top.
Someone has already mentioned it but the nemesis of Danger Mouse was Baron greenback being british was one of my fave cartoons as a kid. Another fun vid guys
Probably heard it before but, the reason for the Silver Surfer being on a surf board is that Jack Kirby was sick of drawing space ships... so, he gave his new character a different form of space travel.
I really love James and Mike Mondays! Just like with the cinemassacre movie reviews, it feels like you're just sat around with your friends watching shit and debating random trivia! It's so relaxing to watch XD
The Budweiser frogs! You forgot the Budweiser frogs! Also, fuck this game. I still remember how disappointed I was after saving my allowance to rent a game for the weekend and picking fucking Silver Surfer thinking it was gonna be amazing. But it was a soul crushing slap to my 8 year old face instead.
Thanks for the good work guys is great to see two good friend's playing some classic games and talking like the old days today everything is soooo online and is kind of sad you know? Thanks you guys always makes me smile even in the worst days you know? Thanks from a Mexican fan and sorry for my english i bad writing u_u and thanks! nobody here belive there was a game call Castlevania Rondo Of Blood and everyone call me lier!! but thanks to your video last week OMG they belive me thanks you guys! keep with that epic work! :D
You can distinguish foreground from background by shooting. If your shot hits an object you will run into it; If it passes through you will too. I also dont understand why everyone says this game is do shitty. Its like any side scrolling/top down shooter. They genre js difficult in general.
Donald here, love every video you have ever uploaded. Keep it up! I would also love to see more of Bootsy if he is able to appear in more. Maybe have a segment with the hardest reported NES games and have Bootsy play them all.
Check this.. I've taken the averages & made this formula to predict the amount of taps to the controller in this game. I'm not sure on the exact time of completion, so I've just decided to say 130 min / 2hrs & 10 min about right?? I'm not sure if the taps per second is accurate either, but hey. Mike was close if this is right: 5 taps per second (tps) 9 seconds after each level 5 levels x 3 stages 15 x 9 = 135 sec downtime 130 min x 60 = overall time to complete in seconds 7800 seconds - 135 sec downtime = 7665 X 5tps = 38,325 taps.
Hey James and Mike! Just responding to what was said in the video. I agree with you guys that you are trying to talk to keep the video entertaining but can be distracting when it comes to beating the game. However, if you look back at the time you guys beat Super C, you guys not only did that video in real time, but you guys barely talked. You were completely focused on the game! It was one of the most exciting videos you guys did and I think you guys should do that again. As a matter of fact, you guys should try Contra again, except this time do what you did with Super C. Don't worry, us fans willb e entertained! :D
That cut at 24:00 was perfect, perfect comedic timing. You do not even have to say anything when watching a game playing spectacle of this magnitude. The game alone is entrancing, but that tapping is ridiculous. Let's see anybody beat the game using an NES Advantage.
Silver surfer is a lot like gradius where you have to get the power ups in the easier stages and just not die somehow. If you die it's almost impossible to get your power ups later on
Jame's soul being destroyed in two sentences:
"Do you think this game can be beaten without any powerups?"
"Yeah... I do."
haha
I love that the goal of the game is to reassemble a vacuum cleaner.
Silver Surfer is broke and can't buy a new one
Looks like a Dyson prototype
While it’s on.
I really like the idea that they go back and play the games that the Nerd reviewed. It's like a different point of view from James and Mike.
Challaxe Luithiadir I know. James does incorporate truth into his reviews though. He has gotten more calm in his reviews and not as energetic. He has gone threw maturity. I remember when he redid Back to the Future and other older reviews, it really did make them better. When they played Friday the 13th, James was taking up for it until it got to a point were they couldn't stand it. Friday the 13th is mediocre at best, but it is playable. You can see where the developers where going with it. Same thing with Silver Surfer, a really hard, mediocre bullethell. I rather play Ikaruga or Gradius because they are better games, but that doesn't mean Silver Surfer shouldn't be picked on, there are other worse games that deserve it..
Challaxe Luithiadir You don't think their opinions could be the same outside of the AVGN universe?
Challaxe Luithiadir One distinguish difference is that AVGN is generally seventeen minute reviews of the flaws in a game. James and Mike Mondays are twenty to forty minute playthroughs of games. They may point out some flaws, but overall they play to beat a game and not review it.
That would be awesome.
***** I don't think they put on an act when the get in front of a camera, so they are more focused on the game so weird conversations and replies happen.
Silver Surfer, wielder of the power cosmic, herald of Galactus, eater of worlds-OH SHIT PUMPKINS AND FROG TONGUES!!!!
***EXPLODES***
+dorpth A FUCKING RUBBER DUCK!!
+Lad Geßler *heart jumps out and attacks him
Leprechaun hats Oh My!
How about that killer rope!
Tree: KA ME HA ME HAAAAA
I seriously love watching Bootsy play with you guys he is so laid back and busts out skills better than most speed runners.
I finally beat this game yesterday, it was a grand achievement. After so much stress and aggravation it is over. One of the hardest games I have ever played, without a doubt.
Jake Sanderson congratz man
Jake Sanderson congratz. now try control on 007 goldeneye on 00 agent
+Jake Sanderson (Film Composer) I beat it too. Since I don't have an NES I used an Emulator with a turbo button but no saving or anything. The day before I played it without the turbo option and I got a cramp in my back and shoulder so that I couldn't move for a day. Had to go to the pharmacy.
+Jake Sanderson (Film Composer) Congrats! :D
You gonna go and spend five years trying to beat the Ninja Gaiden-trilogy, now?
Bootsy has all the characteristics of a seasoned pro gamer. Completely rational and calm, no frustration whatsoever, insane finger speed. This dude is a fucking beast
Also he is cool in the videos, really sad they split up in vain
@@-Tristan- What happened? Do you have a rundown?
@@Kiristovailack of payment and personal beef.
@@MrRobison94 ?
True
When there's a game you cannot beat... who you gonna call? Bad Luck Bootsy!
Or should I call it Bootsy ex Machina?
***** Why is ex machina being used so much lately? I learned that in a Greek mythology class 10 years ago and never heard it outside of school until about a year or two ago. Now its all over the internet.
***** Because it is what it is and I don't think it is what you think it is.
*****
Deus ex machina is a really really really old literary plot device. Really, really, really old. People have been using it for hundreds of years you weirdo.
KA ME HA ME HAAAAA
HAH 11:43 Mike references a hilarious part of the Silver Surfer AVGN episode
and James just gets the best grin across his face and chuckles to himself like "fuck yeah I know I'm the man".
Such a fucking badass
I can't believe you subjected yourself to this torture again!!
Just to show how much concentration this game requires:
Mike: "There's the frogs in E.T."
James: "How about the movie Frogs?"
.....
Bootsy: "Oh yeah, the frogs in E.T.. heh.. hehehe"
I can't believe 3 game fans didn't think of FROGGER
@@fliperotchy how about frogs and flies?
@@GrosvnerMcaffrey BATTLETOADS lol 👍GG👍
These guys are the best anti-depressor on the market
I agree.
I thought it was just me...
SSRI right back into my brain synapses.
oxycodone
Also agree!
Wielder of The Power Cosmic, clad in indestructible silver skin, able to transmute matter with a thought and fly throughout the universe. Has only one weakness: Frogs.
And ropes and rubber ducks and the corners of walls when they touch the tip of his board and the ground when he flies overhead. lol
***** Don't forget hats!
And fucking bridges, apparently.
And rubber duckies lmfao
Silver Shit.
This kind of content is Cinemassacre at its best.
All down hill now
That guy is cool, you should have him in more videos
So nostalgic. Loved this AVGN video back in the day. It seems a lifetime ago... "Silver surfer... Silver shit!" Greetings from Italy!
Ehi ciao! :P
The one thing I'd change with this game is that I would make the terrain not kill you but instead just block you. Like normal terrain in any game. I'd make it clear which kind of terrain blocks you and which one doesn't.
Any terrain in side scrolling shooter will kill you
bunnyfreakz I don't think the terrain in Gradius is lethal
I think your shots pass through terrain that is passable, I think.
Elias R. The terrain in Gradius games is very lethal. Some Gradius games have a "speed-up" stage designed to make you bob and weave terrain.
*****
Pretty much, even though silver surfer is hard as well. There is speed up stage that nearly impossible you too dodge it without rapidly dying in gradius/salamander
19:55, the glitch gremlin is standing behind the laser wall.
:0
I like how the ending just goes
Galactus: Oh good, you got that device, now give me-
Surfer: Nope, I don't trust you with it, I'm gonna take it somewhere else.
Galactus: Um...okay...=[
UltimaKeyMaster Galactus isn't going to say shit, after seeing Silver Surfer make it through all of that..
This game has pretty neat music, even though it's impossible
30:00 wait a minute... Are those disembodied alien elephant heads with the skin partially ripped off of their skull???
Yeah I was surprised they didn't say anything about that!! That looked very out of place for this game! Cool design though.
How the hell did that get into a Nintendo game?
Yeah I didn't even notice that either. I was too busy hoping he wouldn't die at that point.
The testers probably missed that because they were so done with this game before that point
The weird fever dream of a British game designer I suppose.
2AM in the morning, can't fall asleep, then this pops up. Gonna be exhausted in the morning.
The upload time for their Monday videos make it the last bit of weekend for me.
Andrei Kay Damn, you are a nice person dude.
Andrei Kay Because insulting random people on the internet is what makes this world a better place. :)
4AM over here, get on my level scrubs
I may be a shut-in but I do have windows. :P
Best part of the video is the organic silence from them understanding how tough it is to do what he’s doing.
James says he didn't realize he could shoot backwards with that power up, but when he reviewed this game in 2007 he demonstrated it to us that you could do that. Did he forget? He must have forgotten that he knew that at one point haha
And he immediately complains about the thumb hurting. Then, they bring up the turbo JUST LIKE IN AVGN
he once said in a video that sometimes mike is the one that's actually playing when he is making the AVGN episodes
Don’t forget the reviews are sometimes 10+ years old and if that’s the last time you played you might just forget.
he forgets loads
He always forgets shit from his reviews lol especially the old ones
One of the hardest game but one of the greatest soundtrack on the nes . Tim follin rock that 2A03 chip
I literally cant believe how James wouldnt comment on it in neither the review nor this. it's so epic, I'd blast it any day
I think it's a pretty good ending for a NES game. Cut scenes, pictures. So often you get just a few letters.
On the other hand, the ending is you saying "no" to Galactus, and he doesn't get another word in. I mean, does he just go "eh fine, oh well I kinda wanted that but there's nothing I can do if you refuse to hand it over, it's not like I'm some kind of space god or anything."
BaufenBeast I do not mean the "ending story line", I mean "the sequence of graphical and audio information that is played after you beat the game". I think that's also what James and Mike meant.
I agree. I mean, when you think of a typical NES gaem ending, you don't typically think of this, you typically think of "THIS STORY IS HAPPY END CONGLATURATION".
Yeah, CONGLATURATIONS is the most important part !
Alexey Filippenko
LOL, yeah.
I like this series a lot. It's cool seeing James and Mike play the games the AVGN played, and seeing how similar the experiences are
He should have used the "Speedboard" there! :P
That was amazing!!!
If I can change one thing about this game it would be.
1. Add a health bar ( 3 hit max)
2. Allow your character to touch the walls and survive. (Just as long as that wall has no spikes, fire etc.. )
I miss james and mike mondays. I feel like a fossil.
True dat
Love when bootsy is featured in these. He's pretty awesome at these games
Thunderous applause!! Well done guys!!
Love this dude. Bringing in Bootsy is a great idea. Not only does he have interesting stuff to say when he talks, he lets Mike and James have a more organic conversation because they aren't so focused on playing the game.
please bring this back i miss you guys
I like how James totally forgot he could shoot backwards, despite mentioning it in the original review
We need a reunion of all the originals...
I beat this game back in the day, but not gonna lie...it pretty much took months and months of trail and error, memorizing every stage, performing every stage to absolute perfection and of course...lots of stress, cursing and almost taking a hammer to the game a few times. Still...when I beat it finally and saw the ending....it was like climbing K2, only to trip and fall into a frozen turd at the top.
@7:40 he starts playing and ends @31:24 (c.a. 24 min) with an average click speed of 5 button taps a second...= roughly 7,000 taps during the game
Someone has already mentioned it but the nemesis of Danger Mouse was Baron greenback being british was one of my fave cartoons as a kid. Another fun vid guys
I miss this series
When you start up a Cinemassacre video and Bootsy is sitting on the couch, you know some shit is about to go down.
Probably heard it before but, the reason for the Silver Surfer being on a surf board is that Jack Kirby was sick of drawing space ships... so, he gave his new character a different form of space travel.
I really love James and Mike Mondays! Just like with the cinemassacre movie reviews, it feels like you're just sat around with your friends watching shit and debating random trivia! It's so relaxing to watch XD
The Budweiser frogs! You forgot the Budweiser frogs! Also, fuck this game. I still remember how disappointed I was after saving my allowance to rent a game for the weekend and picking fucking Silver Surfer thinking it was gonna be amazing. But it was a soul crushing slap to my 8 year old face instead.
Thank you for uploading the full video at once and not splitting it up! :-)
Thanks for the good work guys is great to see two good friend's playing some classic games and talking like the old days today everything is soooo online and is kind of sad you know? Thanks you guys always makes me smile even in the worst days you know? Thanks from a Mexican fan and sorry for my english i bad writing u_u and thanks! nobody here belive there was a game call Castlevania Rondo Of Blood and everyone call me lier!! but thanks to your video last week OMG they belive me thanks you guys! keep with that epic work! :D
That was way impressive. I remember beating this game as a kid... No way would I have the patience nowadays.
Great soundtrack, one of my favorites.
6:36, when Mike says "I don't think it's that funny", is ridiculously funny!
Great video guys! Thanks for sharing this one. Was intense, found myself making goofy faces when Bootsy would jam on hard spots just like James was.
25:15 - 25:17
see the similarities
Can we agree the soundtrack for this game slaps?
What about Glen (Frog) from Chrono Trigger? At least it's my favourite Frog!
You can distinguish foreground from background by shooting. If your shot hits an object you will run into it; If it passes through you will too.
I also dont understand why everyone says this game is do shitty. Its like any side scrolling/top down shooter. They genre js difficult in general.
"Never count me out"...legend.
I love it when you guys include Bootsy. Not being much of a gamer myself, his skills leave me in awe.
Cinemassacre: I figured out how you can tell what you can and can't go through in this game. Pay attention to which objects stop your bullets.
And simultaneously pay attention to where the enemies are, and their projectiles...
*****
and have brain surgery
Horizontal stages where you can't shoot the ceiling: *Joined the chat*
conglaturations! that was so intense to watch! i grant you my applause.
brilliant monday, great episode
Happier times for cinemassacre
25:06
When the game's so hard it breaks AVGN
25:15 Hand over face: Silver Surfer Style
Mike is great, I have no idea why people used to hate on him when he started reviewing games. He's so fun, humble and also incredibly smart
18:30 come on how could you forget Glenn/Frog from Chrono Trigger
who
Thats right another Chrono Trigger fan, up top
Especially when they are always raving about how they love Chrono Trigger. I thought for sure they would mention it too
Love the full circle from then to now. Plus, Bootsy is the man!
Donald here, love every video you have ever uploaded. Keep it up! I would also love to see more of Bootsy if he is able to appear in more. Maybe have a segment with the hardest reported NES games and have Bootsy play them all.
Jesus, Bootsy is a fucking beast. Good job man.
Wow, beating Silver Surfer in one sitting like this is pretty impressive.^^
James and Mike,you should make a James and Mike Mondays of DKC2
I second that.
Mari Dias I fifth that
YESSSS. So stoked to see Bootsy! You need to get him on more Monday episode!
That was insane, I am in awe of Bootsy. I would like to see Bootsy do Battletoads next.
Check this.. I've taken the averages & made this formula to predict the amount of taps to the controller in this game.
I'm not sure on the exact time of completion, so I've just decided to say 130 min / 2hrs & 10 min about right?? I'm not sure if the taps per second is accurate either, but hey. Mike was close if this is right:
5 taps per second (tps)
9 seconds after each level
5 levels x 3 stages
15 x 9 =
135 sec downtime
130 min x 60 = overall time to complete in seconds
7800 seconds - 135 sec downtime =
7665 X 5tps =
38,325 taps.
he hit the button 46 times and im also bad at counting
+Brendan Carlson 46 times under half a minute. O_O
He hits the button moee then once every second, just times that by 60.
+t daquila Multiply*
bootsy is the fuckin' man!! dude killed it, even while facing the brink of defeat, he came back and dominated, now that's clutch
It's so chill out for me to watch you guys play retro games at night with something to eat in front of my pc.
Great job for beating the game.
Hey James and Mike! Just responding to what was said in the video. I agree with you guys that you are trying to talk to keep the video entertaining but can be distracting when it comes to beating the game. However, if you look back at the time you guys beat Super C, you guys not only did that video in real time, but you guys barely talked. You were completely focused on the game! It was one of the most exciting videos you guys did and I think you guys should do that again. As a matter of fact, you guys should try Contra again, except this time do what you did with Super C. Don't worry, us fans willb e entertained! :D
25:14 Bootsy and silver surfer make the same expression
Btw if you rewatch the barbie making of episode.. let's just say the information has become slightly outdated lol.
Alright Jimmy! Rocking a "That Metal Show" T-Shirt
The best parts of these James & Mike Mondays videos is watching James' face when the action gets tense.
That cut at 24:00 was perfect, perfect comedic timing. You do not even have to say anything when watching a game playing spectacle of this magnitude. The game alone is entrancing, but that tapping is ridiculous. Let's see anybody beat the game using an NES Advantage.
this guy makes the game look easy :)
Bad-Luck Bootsy has successfully evolved into Bad-Ass Bootsy! :)
Hardest NES game? Fester's Quest. More than 15 years later and still haven't beaten it. Saw my dad do it when I was a kid though.
23:50 Bootsy starts off like the Ninja from the Ninja Gaiden review, then he's just like "fuck...shit..FUCK!" lol
Looks like you can tell what you can pass through and what you can't depending on whether your bullets pass through or get blocked.
What I've learned from this video.... when Silver Surfer has balls, the game is easier. :P
"You know how you got that extra ball?"
Now that's a conversation starter
Excellent. Now use that password shown during the credits and beat the hard mode.
>:-D
Mets cap and silver surfer, can't get any better than this =)
Silver surfer is a lot like gradius where you have to get the power ups in the easier stages and just not die somehow. If you die it's almost impossible to get your power ups later on
Jesus, just watching I feel exhausted :O
James is just in awe!
Never got to hear what James would change about the game :(
The music in this game is so amazing!
These are just getting better and better. Thanks for making Monday awesome.
*** Bootsy Again ... he is fuc3n NES MACHINE ***
Can you beat Adventures of Bayou Billy for NES ? That´s also a hard NES game.
Darthadios
I did after two years I was given that game in Christmas. One day I said to my bro let's finish that before we get older. Glad we did
I know Larry Fishburne as Clean from Apocalypse Now.
Right! And after that as Jimmy Jump in King of New York and Furious Styles in Boyz'N'tha hood. He's been the man for a long time.
日本のサイトでは『難易度は高いけど…見ている分には楽しめる』と説明が有った、…映像を見て私も同じ事を感じた。音楽はリズム感があって良い。
ボタンの連射は疲れない？。
後ろの小型ゲーム機がとても気になる。
That was intense! Bootsy makes it look easy, but holy hanna Silver Surfer must be so hard. I was on edge of my seat! Fun video, thanks.