No matter your level of success or fame, some things just stick. Some people just have an ability to shake things like that off and maybe not even recognise it as a weird thing, but if you do think it’s an extremely weird thing, it’s gonna stick. Might not affect you, but the memory is weird enough that you won’t forget it. I’ve had my fair share of weird encounters over the years and they pop up every now and then not because I hold some kind of grudge or anything but just because of how weird they were. That’s how memory works.
I think it's more some kid only wanted to shake his hand because he knew Kurt Cobain, that's really odd ahaha. I would of remembered that too. He's not saying it's weird because the kid liked Kurt Cobain more, what I'm gathering is that a kid waited in line for 3 hours just to shake someones hand who knew and saw their idol.
My girlfriend insulted him backstage at an Austrian SP gig once. He was apparently being rude and pompous, telling people around him not to talk to him because he needed to preserve his vocals, and my partner, who was dating a member of a supporting band at the time, said something like "why? What is there to preserve?" To which Billy responded "f**K you, you gothic b**ch." His crew then laughed and said "good one" to my girlfriend.
I think Billy is reading too much into it. Maybe the kid was autistic. Maybe the kid was nervous. Maybe the kid just wanted to shake Billy's hand, and also had a question.
Its absurd how jealous this guy is of Cobain even to this day. Its just sad, pathetic really... especially considering the guy has been dead for 30 years. He really is a miserable, bitter and twisted person.
@@erickh6587 it’s not insulting unless u make it about u or just give too much attention to it. I’d look at it as weird/ funny not insulting. Talking things like that personally to me is like puzzling considering all his success and fame andTHATS the fan interaction he’s so hung up on. I’d get over it that same day
you mean the mean spirited druggie from Michigan who hasn't been in the Pumpkins for over 20 years? Pumpkins have been a band longer without her than with her.
Im a Smashing Pumpkins fan and a Nirvana fan and I feel Saying that made you want to put a bullet in your head when thats what killed Kurt is A bit extreme....
I’m a Smashing Pumpkins fan, too, and I guess I would be nervous, since I met Kurt in passing on the street in 1992. 20 seconds, and he was cool. This comment makes me want to tell Billy “Hey, what was it like being the frontman of Midnight Oil” just to f@@k with him.
@@aaronj8599 its weird, but when you get other hundreds of fan passing there 3 hours before, if you don't have that much ego issues, you don't care about one random kid doing one weird thing
@@aaronj8599 That is indeed a bit weird, but not unimaginable or “dehumanising”. I could stand in line for Snoop Dogg, for 3 hours, just to shake his hand because he knew Tupac. That doesn’t even mean I don’t like Snoop! Also, 3 hours is nothing, I’ve waited longer for a bus. (I also think Snoop would not be insulted at all, he would understand and appreciate it because he also respects and loves Tupac and understands the gesture.) The absolute insane part of this story is still telling it 25 YEARS later! Trying to find approval from a random podcast or radio guy about the fact that you wanted to PUT A BULLET IN YOUR OWN HEAD because someone liked Kurt Cobain better than you! This mans choice of words only show his jealousy of, and disrespect for Kurt Cobain.
Exactly. Sounds like he was autistic or something, or was having a celebrity contact high with only having two degrees of separation between him and Kurt. Us common people get like that sometimes around famous people.
@@jonathanandrew2909It didn't matter whatever he is or he will do as long as it's not violent or life threatening. The fact that a guy can stand in line and shake his hand in a sea of fans still mean something than not waiting and saying nothing. Billy is a rock star yet has a fragile ego. He allowed such comment to rent freely in his head, such an insult to artistry.
Talking to other 90s legends is the only way Nirvana fans can really connect to Kurt Cobain on what feels like a personal level so I understand the kid
Great finally He got pulled down from the skies.. A humbling experience. He should have accepted it as a sign to stay humble. And I am a huge Billy Fan myself.. But still..
@@aaronj8599yeah I don't get why everyone is talking about his ego here? Is everyone here the kid in that line, or autism or something? That's really weird ahah
Kurt was a legend and phenomenon, as he is deceased his generations of fans will never meet him, therefore all those who knew him are the closest they would get to his legend. Billy should he honoured.
@@techno.science I don’t think that was the issue, they were just toxic with each other and it was never going to work. I don’t think anyone is sad it didn’t.
I mean, i would say Corgans enormous ego cant deal with the fact that Cobain was more FAMOUS than him. "Eclipsed him in every way" is absurd. Corgan is a far better guitar player, composer, and producer.
Amazing that Corgan lets these people who (in his eyes) disrespected him live rent free in his head. I’m a fan of 90s Smashing Pumpkins. The fact that I dig Nirvana even more so would probably really get on Billys nerves. 😂 I’m extremely skeptical of the fact he signed autographs “for 3 hours”. Just doesn’t come off as that kind of dude.
I don't think he's hurt, I think he says it's weird. It's not a ego thing at all, imagine your dad was John Lennon and I go "is your dad John Lennon, let me shake your hand... See ya" after waiting in line for 3 hours. You would be like, that was odd lol wouldn't you?
I waited in line for more than 3 hours in the late 90s to see the Pumpkins play a free concert in a local record store. Got to meet Billy and the band after the show. It should have been great to meet him, but he was a complete asshole. Never meet your heroes. The rest of the band were very nice.
@@aaronj8599So what. If you are an artist and your job is to woo fans to buy your album and a single guy would contemplate to buy or not buy your album because he liked another artist shouldn't mean shit to you because you can just move on and woo another set of fans. It's just business. But with all the money and fame, these artists are so all over their head thinking they're above anybody else and feeling disliked by the kid means that the world should dislike back that kid as a form of vindication. What's worse is to be careless with his words like "putting a bullet in your head" after saying Kurt Cobain.
Imagine if this guy was want an egomaniac. He’s made some of the best music of the 90s and is a shredder but he is his own biggest fan and it really ruins it.
Jesus how would you not be stoked to meet Billy Corgan? It would be great just to thank him for the badass music. I'm not a huge fan of their later albums but Gish-Mellon Collie are 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The ever self-important, arrogant, and egotistical Great Pumpkin felt "dehumanized" by a kid. Oh, boo-effing-hoo, Billy. Must be rough being dissed like that. All that money and all that fame and you're whining about some random kid who shook your hand and said something which was likely out of nervousness being in the presence of a god. Wow. That must have been a very traumatic experience for you, ZERO. Your humility and grace are astonishing.
Billy Corgan is a phenomenal musician and he and Kurt shouldn't be compared. They are different people with different minds. I love Kurt but I also very much love Billy. They are both beautiful people.
Billy is a gnarled little goblin obsessed with how he's percieved to the point of patheticness, who has a lame, cringey vocal style. Kurt is like if a tolkien elf could scream like an angel. Corgan managed to create some great music in spite of himself but he is absolutely the polar opposite of a beautiful person.
If you don't play the guitar yourself, it's hard to understand just how innovative and great Cobain was as a musician. The amount of thought and effort put into his guitar setup alone, the customization of the guitars themselves, every part playing a role in creating that guitar sound,even the amps he used, down to the particular speakers that were only used for a couple years in the 60s that are almost impossible to find- and selling for a high price when you find them-unless you can understand this and then hear the instruments being played with no accompaniment... Nevermind the fact that he fused punk rock and the Beatles to create a whole new genre of music that Continues to inspire to this day.. no, Kurt was light years ahead of billy Corgan, and Im sure billy knows it... There's a guy on TH-cam that has made a series of.videos documenting his journey to find and recreate Kurt Cobain's various guitar setups from the 3 different albums and the subsequent tours, they are super interesting to watch...
@@HangshaiHardly. He was an average guitarist at best and a decent songwriter but he couldnt write the classics Billy did. He didn't have the depth or skill coz he was a one trick pony. He also didn't invent anything. Pumpkins, Soundgarden, Meat Puppets and Alice In Chains were light years ahead of Nirvana. Cobain was too self destructive to be a good role model. He was weak and allowed a woman to dominate him. Thats why he died young and the others went on to have a career.
@@rushshukla4636I hate to admit but you're right. The same could possibly said about Layne who let the suicide of his girlfriend sink him further into the dregs of his depraved depression. Then again, I don't know the guy-only know things about him.
If anything, that kid's a hero. Someone who's over the top of his head with money and fame and yet felt "dehumanized" by a kid who barely knew what to say. People are dying left and right with unfair disadvantages yet this guy thinks his opinion about a kid is more important than the wellbeing of anyone. Artists really failed to be accountable as said by Bo Burnham. They get reach by being attention attractors and yet in truth is their it's their drug and they are getting paid for being addicts.
"Hey kid, I'll give you $150 if you stand on that line and ask that bold head guy over there if he knew Kurt Cobain, if he says yes, shake his hand and leave, if he says no, say ok and leave" -D'arcy after being fired. "Is that all, where is the money, and whats the name again" -Kid "Its Kurt Cobain, dont forget, as a matter of fact, let me write it down to you in this piece of paper, and here is $70, ill give you the rest after you finish your job OK" -D'arcy
The mental gymnastics is strong with this one. Kid was probably really naive and nervous, but of course, a narcissist has no clue about any of those two concepts. The world keeps rotating without you, man..
The kid probably went along to keep a friend company, sensed Billy was an arrogant knob from observing him with his fans, so decided to troll Corgan. And he pulled it off.
I like Billy Corgan, i think, but he doesn't need EVERYBODY to be HIS super fan. I get that striving for perfection is a great quality to make you succeed, and not settling for "okay' instead of 'greatness' but you can't have everybody worship you Billy Bob.
I thought I was the only one who saw the personality resemblance. They can be almost the same person at times. One minute they'll have a brilliant comment on something and the next - it's all about ME...again. Politically, they both seem Libertarian and they both seem to have a real love/hate relationship with their original bass players. ;-) I still find them both fascinating and am a fan of their music.
How so? He's saying that at his meet and greet the only reason someone wanted to shake his hand, after waiting 3 hours (which to me, is the part that says alot about Billy Corgan more than the rest of the story) a kid only wanted to shake his hand if he knew Kurt Cobain, that's a really odd thing to do. It would be like going to McDonald's to buy 100 soft serve cones, just why lol.
I had Rupaul autograph the photo he was in with Kurt. Everything is an energy transfer and William should know more about this rather than allowing his ego to eat the moment. Great artist
He might have been the biggest pumpkins fan out there and just didn’t know what to say bc he idolized him so much. Here billy taking it as an insult when some kid waiting three hours to meet him. What a world.
Wow, billy corgan met the guy who shaked billys hand after asking him if he knew kurt cobain. I'd like to shake billy corgans hand for meeting that guy.
Poor old bill.... some people are famous rock stars ....and some people change the game..and are remembered forever for that reason ..and kurt changed the game .....you got ...bob marley... the beatles ....elvis ....kurt cobain...hendrix....etc.... its a small group that actually change the game and the rest follow ..i like the pumpkins ...great band ..but they was just a great band ..the kurt thing is more than music...the people decide who there hero is..... and that is the beuty of it....its time for another guy or girl to tip it upside down again
Imagine having the money, fame and success of this dude but carrying a memory like that around forever 😂
Exactly
No matter your level of success or fame, some things just stick. Some people just have an ability to shake things like that off and maybe not even recognise it as a weird thing, but if you do think it’s an extremely weird thing, it’s gonna stick. Might not affect you, but the memory is weird enough that you won’t forget it. I’ve had my fair share of weird encounters over the years and they pop up every now and then not because I hold some kind of grudge or anything but just because of how weird they were. That’s how memory works.
Yup. That kid got him good. 👍
😂
This guy is a storyteller. He has a good memoria...
I have a feeling Billy gets insulted very easily
All narcissists do.
I think it's more some kid only wanted to shake his hand because he knew Kurt Cobain, that's really odd ahaha. I would of remembered that too.
He's not saying it's weird because the kid liked Kurt Cobain more, what I'm gathering is that a kid waited in line for 3 hours just to shake someones hand who knew and saw their idol.
My girlfriend insulted him backstage at an Austrian SP gig once. He was apparently being rude and pompous, telling people around him not to talk to him because he needed to preserve his vocals, and my partner, who was dating a member of a supporting band at the time, said something like "why? What is there to preserve?" To which Billy responded "f**K you, you gothic b**ch." His crew then laughed and said "good one" to my girlfriend.
Takes one to know one.
Happened over two decades ago and of course Billy is still bothered by the kid. His ego took a blow that day lol
He's so annoying and can't seem to move on.
@@MothGirl007 He never moves on ye, and not only on that kid story
Billy is somewhat of a narcissist and a little douchey but he can write some great songs.
@@TomSomniacsuch is the mind of an artist
@@gunnymaru2900 not all of them, being an artist doesn't make you a narcissist.
I think Billy is reading too much into it. Maybe the kid was autistic. Maybe the kid was nervous. Maybe the kid just wanted to shake Billy's hand, and also had a question.
Yeah he's a smart guy he should be able to wrap his head around the situation
@@paranoizehfx I have met a couple celebrities before, and I am sure that I (inadvertently) said some wacky stuff just because I was nervous.
Nah, BS. Sorry doesn't compute.
@@paranoizehfx ❤😢
Nah, autism wasn't around then..the spectrum began around 2010
"So i met this kid who worshiped someone other than myself and it was insulting to me."
He waited 3 hours to shake his hand because of someone he used to know.
Its absurd how jealous this guy is of Cobain even to this day. Its just sad, pathetic really... especially considering the guy has been dead for 30 years. He really is a miserable, bitter and twisted person.
@@slimyfisher1370 How long have you known him?
I cant be the only one to see the idiocy and exaggeration from yall hating on this
Because Kurt was better as a person and in my opinion as a songwriter
He’s obsessed with Kurt and I hope he deals with it in therapy because it’s bad
I think he got sloppy seconds and fourths and sevenths
He was with Courtney before she got with Kurt.
This might be the most drama queen thing Ive ever heard of. 😂
He wanted to shake the hand of someone who shook Cobains hand.
Wouldn't it make more sense to wait in line to meet Dave Grohl?
@@Nathan-gd7xq This was before Dave Grohl formed Foo Fighters
@@Durstlover3447 No it wasn't, Dave created ff in 1994
@@Nathan-gd7xqDave Grohl is probably so much nicer haha
Kurt still haunts him 😂
Man the fragile ego on this guy.
Na if his ego was that big he wouldnt put it out there
@@9FINGApeople are needlessly harsh on Billy.
@@AndI0td763 billy is needlessly insulted by weird fan lol get over it isn’t that deep
@anitamann9217 it is kind of insulting though and he's just speaking his mind not really complaining
@@erickh6587 it’s not insulting unless u make it about u or just give too much attention to it. I’d look at it as weird/ funny not insulting. Talking things like that personally to me is like puzzling considering all his success and fame andTHATS the fan interaction he’s so hung up on. I’d get over it that same day
That kid was trolling. That’s all that was
We need to meet this kids 😅
for real. people are goin too deep on this lol
His troll game is strong
No he was just being the moron he was!
Nah, some people are actually dumb and rude like that
Makes me wanna insult Billy by shaking his hand because he once was in a band with D`Arcy...
Exactly.. Were you in a band with darcy? Is it true.. I love her.
you mean the mean spirited druggie from Michigan who hasn't been in the Pumpkins for over 20 years? Pumpkins have been a band longer without her than with her.
Yeah social media is really shining the light on all his bs
Im a Smashing Pumpkins fan and a Nirvana fan and I feel Saying that made you want to put a bullet in your head when thats what killed Kurt is A bit extreme....
A poor choice of words or getting a little revenge on the kid and on Kurt because CL left him for Kurt
Yeah he def backed up his thinking there for a min. What A pompous prick
Yea that was just bad taste. You can tell his ego is still bruised by that 😅
💯
I’m a Smashing Pumpkins fan, too, and I guess I would be nervous, since I met Kurt in passing on the street in 1992. 20 seconds, and he was cool. This comment makes me want to tell Billy “Hey, what was it like being the frontman of Midnight Oil” just to f@@k with him.
The ego on this guy lol
He just knows that he’ll never be as cool as Kurt. Unbelievably talented and successful but can never be as cool as Kurt.
Kurt Cobain was indeed less talented. If you find emo junkies cool, Kurt is your guy.
This is where you seperate the artist from the art. Gish is a fantastic record.
Everything he writes is gold, yet everything he says is garbage.
The narcissist got his feelings hurt
To be fair… Billy is most famous for knowing Kurt Cobain 😂😂😂😂😂
It’s not weird someone waited 3 hours to shake someone hand because they knew another person at one time?
@@aaronj8599 its weird, but when you get other hundreds of fan passing there 3 hours before, if you don't have that much ego issues, you don't care about one random kid doing one weird thing
@@aaronj8599 That is indeed a bit weird, but not unimaginable or “dehumanising”.
I could stand in line for Snoop Dogg, for 3 hours, just to shake his hand because he knew Tupac.
That doesn’t even mean I don’t like Snoop! Also, 3 hours is nothing, I’ve waited longer for a bus.
(I also think Snoop would not be insulted at all, he would understand and appreciate it because he also respects and loves Tupac and understands the gesture.)
The absolute insane part of this story is still telling it 25 YEARS later!
Trying to find approval from a random podcast or radio guy about the fact that you wanted to PUT A BULLET IN YOUR OWN HEAD because someone liked Kurt Cobain better than you!
This mans choice of words only show his jealousy of, and disrespect for Kurt Cobain.
Yes, 25 years ago and he is still not over it! 😂
I think the kid was nervous and just didn't know what to say.
Exactly. Sounds like he was autistic or something, or was having a celebrity contact high with only having two degrees of separation between him and Kurt. Us common people get like that sometimes around famous people.
@@jonathanandrew2909 These people are not worth getting nervous over.
@@gonzaloc4711 that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen though.
@@jonathanandrew2909It didn't matter whatever he is or he will do as long as it's not violent or life threatening. The fact that a guy can stand in line and shake his hand in a sea of fans still mean something than not waiting and saying nothing. Billy is a rock star yet has a fragile ego. He allowed such comment to rent freely in his head, such an insult to artistry.
Talking to other 90s legends is the only way Nirvana fans can really connect to Kurt Cobain on what feels like a personal level so I understand the kid
This could have been such a sweet story about a fan trying to connect to Kurt through Billy. And of course, Billy made it about himself 😂
Kurt’s ghost still haunts Billy from beyond the grave and still living rent free in his head.
And it’s all because of Courtney. That’s all it is.
Great finally He got pulled down from the skies.. A humbling experience. He should have accepted it as a sign to stay humble. And I am a huge Billy Fan myself.. But still..
YES yes and yes.
Its a weird thing to happen. To wait 3 hours to shake someone hand because they knew another person at one point. That’s not normal
Dude that’s most people.
@@aaronj8599yeah I don't get why everyone is talking about his ego here? Is everyone here the kid in that line, or autism or something? That's really weird ahah
Kurt was a legend and phenomenon, as he is deceased his generations of fans will never meet him, therefore all those who knew him are the closest they would get to his legend. Billy should he honoured.
Wait until the kid finds out he slept with Courtney lol 😂
I think this may be part of the reason Billy got triggered. He never lived up to Kurt, even in the bedroom.
@@techno.science I don’t think that was the issue, they were just toxic with each other and it was never going to work. I don’t think anyone is sad it didn’t.
Maybe the kid knew it
Corgan’s enormous ego can’t deal with the fact that Cobain eclipsed him in every way.
I mean, i would say Corgans enormous ego cant deal with the fact that Cobain was more FAMOUS than him.
"Eclipsed him in every way" is absurd. Corgan is a far better guitar player, composer, and producer.
come on Billy sort it out
Billy is the one with the problem. He's been around 10's of thousands of people and he remembers a 2 second encounter.
Amazing that Corgan lets these people who (in his eyes) disrespected him live rent free in his head. I’m a fan of 90s Smashing Pumpkins. The fact that I dig Nirvana even more so would probably really get on Billys nerves. 😂 I’m extremely skeptical of the fact he signed autographs “for 3 hours”. Just doesn’t come off as that kind of dude.
I'd shake that kid's hand, get two legends for the price of one. Work smart, not hard.
😂 🤣 😂
Billy cheated with Kurt’s wife , this guy is so disrespectful as hell.
Arrogance needs to be smashed
He knows he's second chair
………not sure how that’s an insult….
Jeez Billy, get over yourself, you've had a very successful career! Crazy to have been so hurt by something like that. It's just silly.
Kurt was #1 he can't ever get over that
I don't think he's hurt, I think he says it's weird. It's not a ego thing at all, imagine your dad was John Lennon and I go "is your dad John Lennon, let me shake your hand... See ya" after waiting in line for 3 hours. You would be like, that was odd lol wouldn't you?
@@brianemo6208 Julian has dealt with that his entire life.
I waited in line for more than 3 hours in the late 90s to see the Pumpkins play a free concert in a local record store. Got to meet Billy and the band after the show. It should have been great to meet him, but he was a complete asshole. Never meet your heroes. The rest of the band were very nice.
Poor baby. Boohoo.
Billy is so egotistical wow
That’s normal behavior to you? Wait 3 hours to shake someone hand because they used to know someone
There was an online cartoon called Billy the Egomaniac. I believe it is available as a book now.
@@aaronj8599So what. If you are an artist and your job is to woo fans to buy your album and a single guy would contemplate to buy or not buy your album because he liked another artist shouldn't mean shit to you because you can just move on and woo another set of fans. It's just business. But with all the money and fame, these artists are so all over their head thinking they're above anybody else and feeling disliked by the kid means that the world should dislike back that kid as a form of vindication. What's worse is to be careless with his words like "putting a bullet in your head" after saying Kurt Cobain.
@@aaronj8599 The kids hero was Kurt Cobain so what... yeah it's not hard to believe
@@spaceorbisonI mean, why not just talk about Kurt Cobain, shaking someone's hand only if they knew Kurt Cobain is autistic af lol.
"Cause thats when you want to put a bullet in your head" poor guy was insulted so bad that he wants to do what kurt did 💀
Imagine if this guy was want an egomaniac. He’s made some of the best music of the 90s and is a shredder but he is his own biggest fan and it really ruins it.
Kurt would’ve just laughed if it was the other way and wouldn’t have remembered nor cared
Kurt was addicted to heroin and committed suicide. Let's not pretend Kurt let everything just roll off his shoulders.
Bitter dude
He still trying to win the band Wars
I would’ve done the same
He’s too mental if he’s taking something like that so personally.
Ask him bout the time he was insulted by Kurt directly 😂
Yeah, didnt he call him The Pear Shaped Box?? 😂😂 Apparently Kurt absolutely despised Billy, surprisingly...
@@slimyfisher1370 🤣😭
I love the smashing pumpkins, but whoever that kid is is a blooming genius!
Most ppl would laugh that off. Oh well. I shook novoselic's hand and it occurred to me Kurt shook that. But I was very happy to meet Krist.
Jesus how would you not be stoked to meet Billy Corgan? It would be great just to thank him for the badass music. I'm not a huge fan of their later albums but Gish-Mellon Collie are 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The ever self-important, arrogant, and egotistical Great Pumpkin felt "dehumanized" by a kid. Oh, boo-effing-hoo, Billy. Must be rough being dissed like that. All that money and all that fame and you're whining about some random kid who shook your hand and said something which was likely out of nervousness being in the presence of a god. Wow. That must have been a very traumatic experience for you, ZERO. Your humility and grace are astonishing.
If i ever run into Billy I’m gonna say that shit. Let’s all agree to say that so he gets bombarded with that for eternity.
Emotional damageee
Billy Corgan is so honest and a treasure
In agreement with the kid. That's the only reason I can think of to want to shake Corgan's hand.
You would wait 3 hours to shake someone’s hand because of someone they used to know.
@@aaronj8599But you didn’t have to CUT ME OFF 🎶
Aww, poor little Billy felt bad that one particular person wasn’t there to fawn all over him and tell him how great he was. What a chump. Sad.
Cobain is Cobain, people will go to lengths he was a legend.
Ol cardigan corgan at it again!
It is humanizing actually. Your human body touched kurt Cobain's. Now his body touched you. It's only an ego killer is all.
Nirvana the smashing pumpkins and nine inch nails were a massive part of my childhood, i’m so lucky to have found them at such a young age.
smart kid...
Billy Corgan is a phenomenal musician and he and Kurt shouldn't be compared. They are different people with different minds. I love Kurt but I also very much love Billy. They are both beautiful people.
Billy is a gnarled little goblin obsessed with how he's percieved to the point of patheticness, who has a lame, cringey vocal style.
Kurt is like if a tolkien elf could scream like an angel.
Corgan managed to create some great music in spite of himself but he is absolutely the polar opposite of a beautiful person.
If you don't play the guitar yourself, it's hard to understand just how innovative and great Cobain was as a musician. The amount of thought and effort put into his guitar setup alone, the customization of the guitars themselves, every part playing a role in creating that guitar sound,even the amps he used, down to the particular speakers that were only used for a couple years in the 60s that are almost impossible to find- and selling for a high price when you find them-unless you can understand this and then hear the instruments being played with no accompaniment... Nevermind the fact that he fused punk rock and the Beatles to create a whole new genre of music that Continues to inspire to this day.. no, Kurt was light years ahead of billy Corgan, and Im sure billy knows it...
There's a guy on TH-cam that has made a series of.videos documenting his journey to find and recreate Kurt Cobain's various guitar setups from the 3 different albums and the subsequent tours, they are super interesting to watch...
Lay off the crack jack jack...
@@HangshaiHardly. He was an average guitarist at best and a decent songwriter but he couldnt write the classics Billy did. He didn't have the depth or skill coz he was a one trick pony. He also didn't invent anything. Pumpkins, Soundgarden, Meat Puppets and Alice In Chains were light years ahead of Nirvana. Cobain was too self destructive to be a good role model. He was weak and allowed a woman to dominate him. Thats why he died young and the others went on to have a career.
@@rushshukla4636I hate to admit but you're right. The same could possibly said about Layne who let the suicide of his girlfriend sink him further into the dregs of his depraved depression. Then again, I don't know the guy-only know things about him.
You can't compete with a dead star😓
That kid is laughing at this clip today. Well played kid, well played.
If anything, that kid's a hero. Someone who's over the top of his head with money and fame and yet felt "dehumanized" by a kid who barely knew what to say. People are dying left and right with unfair disadvantages yet this guy thinks his opinion about a kid is more important than the wellbeing of anyone.
Artists really failed to be accountable as said by Bo Burnham. They get reach by being attention attractors and yet in truth is their it's their drug and they are getting paid for being addicts.
Its never enough for him.😂.
Blah blah. STILL JEALOUS ..let it go ..
😂 don’t even try to figure it out Billy. Eff it.
"Hey kid, I'll give you $150 if you stand on that line and ask that bold head guy over there if he knew Kurt Cobain, if he says yes, shake his hand and leave, if he says no, say ok and leave"
-D'arcy after being fired.
"Is that all, where is the money, and whats the name again"
-Kid
"Its Kurt Cobain, dont forget, as a matter of fact, let me write it down to you in this piece of paper, and here is $70, ill give you the rest after you finish your job OK"
-D'arcy
Bro remembers it 30 years later 🤣🤣
I wish Courtney would have picked Billy instead and left Kurt the hell alone 😢
Lmao that kid was cool
His guy is such a tool its unreal. So sad that so.e kid doesnt love him enough.
The mental gymnastics is strong with this one. Kid was probably really naive and nervous, but of course, a narcissist has no clue about any of those two concepts.
The world keeps rotating without you, man..
The kid probably went along to keep a friend company, sensed Billy was an arrogant knob from observing him with his fans, so decided to troll Corgan. And he pulled it off.
I like Billy Corgan, i think, but he doesn't need EVERYBODY to be HIS super fan. I get that striving for perfection is a great quality to make you succeed, and not settling for "okay' instead of 'greatness' but you can't have everybody worship you Billy Bob.
Disarm you with a smile. Would have loved Nirvanas version of Disarm. Also bullet with butterfly wings imagine Kurt going to town on that song.
That kid stabbed him and years later he’s still bleeding
recounting the story doesn't mean that it still bothers him, you can't glean that from the context available in this clip
You cannot compete w someone who is gone. Different plane different rules. Ppl were obsessed like they did Presley Morrison Hendrix etc.
Millennials identify with the kid. GenXers identify with Billy.
Dollar store Dave Mustaine. They both can't get over shit that happened decades ago
Both very obviously have a personality disorder.
Totally.
I thought I was the only one who saw the personality resemblance. They can be almost the same person at times. One minute they'll have a brilliant comment on something and the next - it's all about ME...again. Politically, they both seem Libertarian and they both seem to have a real love/hate relationship with their original bass players. ;-) I still find them both fascinating and am a fan of their music.
Narcissists never forget ego blows.
He knows Kurt was better 😂
Man, I would have asked him the same thing
Egos are a terrible thing. So insecure
How so? He's saying that at his meet and greet the only reason someone wanted to shake his hand, after waiting 3 hours (which to me, is the part that says alot about Billy Corgan more than the rest of the story) a kid only wanted to shake his hand if he knew Kurt Cobain, that's a really odd thing to do. It would be like going to McDonald's to buy 100 soft serve cones, just why lol.
Maybe Billy just got trolled in an epic proportion! LOL
I would’ve asked billy if courtney hate was a good lay
I had Rupaul autograph the photo he was in with Kurt. Everything is an energy transfer and William should know more about this rather than allowing his ego to eat the moment. Great artist
"do you know who killed, Kurt Cobain?"
“Put a bullet in your head” are you serious bro you’re coasting off your first two albums like Oasis
He might have been the biggest pumpkins fan out there and just didn’t know what to say bc he idolized him so much. Here billy taking it as an insult when some kid waiting three hours to meet him. What a world.
You feel dehumanized, Billy? Yet you were the one fooling around with Kurt’s wife, at a time when he was going through some really dark times.
this is hilarious
His ego is bigger than his huge dome head. I’m glad this happened to him. Hope it happens again, 1,000 more times.
Wee Billy's ego was hurt
Imagine if he would've asked if he knew Rex Manning?
Wow, billy corgan met the guy who shaked billys hand after asking him if he knew kurt cobain.
I'd like to shake billy corgans hand for meeting that guy.
Poor old bill.... some people are famous rock stars ....and some people change the game..and are remembered forever for that reason ..and kurt changed the game .....you got ...bob marley... the beatles ....elvis ....kurt cobain...hendrix....etc.... its a small group that actually change the game and the rest follow ..i like the pumpkins ...great band ..but they was just a great band ..the kurt thing is more than music...the people decide who there hero is..... and that is the beuty of it....its time for another guy or girl to tip it upside down again
Well considering music went to shit I guess that still counts as a game changer
I guess despite all his rage…
Because he always put Kurt as his competitor not his friend. Thats why...
You ever imagine the kid, thinking for a long time after, "man why did i say that to Billy?"
I wouldn't of shook his hand lol
It was a highly elaborate insult that Billy doesn't seem to have understood. An impressive slight if ever I heard one
Kurt was so much more than him lol.