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  • @stephencutajar2548
    @stephencutajar2548 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I truly appreciate the work and your patience to document the progress including the trials and errors that come with it. I am or I was a very capable DIYer in my time, I am a retired technician and I'll be 62 this year and have been sim racing for the last couple of years and truly enjoying it. I have been contemplating whether to buy a ready-made seat-mover or build one myself since I have all the tools and knowledge of how things work and I must say your videos inspire me to get my ass off the couch and start building things again. Keep up your good work.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stephen, I am just turning 60.. so Yeah.. I'm pretty much the same age. I did the same thing.. ready built - I thought about it too. But I figured, It's not rocket science. So I built my 3DOF, which has been running for 2.5 years now with no issues.. *and it's absolutely mental * Best thing I ever built. Watch a few of those videos too if you have a chance. I will be going over the Arduino/IBT setup again on the 2DOF seatmover upgrade this weekend.. I dont know if I will get a video out or not this weekend but I will be working on it to better explain the details.. Thanks for commenting.. Congrats on 62.. Dave

    • @ClickerSnapper01
      @ClickerSnapper01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Like your comment Stephen, I too just got into Sim Racing If you decide to get off the couch, then what ever you do in or for a sim rig record and post it! ( Of course if you want to ) I personally like to spend some time seeing what other fellas are up too in the sim world.

  • @pyroblaze13
    @pyroblaze13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Brother Dave. Much Love

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for takin a look my friend! Just trying some new motors.. we will see what happens! Dave

  • @atchenhernandezvargas3082
    @atchenhernandezvargas3082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Buenas señor como siempre un placer ver sus videos saludos desde Canarias👍

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Canary Islands!? Wow! ¡Gracias mi amigo! ¡Aprecio que estés mirando! ¡Espero que te ayude! Dave

  • @FVRFactor
    @FVRFactor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Dave - another great vid - each day a step closer and your vid is my primary source now. Cheers mate

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks my friend! But there is a lot more info on the x-simulator.net forum.. Just check it out.. Cool people. Lot of projects on motion sims.. Dave

  • @madeinchina10
    @madeinchina10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    top job Mr D looks strong and I had some blue smoke in my power supply not to long ago . thanks mate

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for taking a look.. This is pretty experimental for sure.. Lot of unknowns.. That kind of why my first build (3DOF) uses a 12V truck battery as it's power. We shall see if these AC to DC converters can handle the pain (maybe not).. but at least by doing this for you guys, we can get a little data on what's actually required for a reliable power source. Have you any idea how many amps you were pulling when it happened?

  • @RVRCloset
    @RVRCloset 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really sad how one madman can make this much suffering for both Ukraine and his own country and people!..
    Great vid as always my friend!💪😃

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah Agreed.. a couple weeks ago.. we all seemed to be just minding our own business.. Now this.. Crazy! Thanks for checking in R-VR! Dave

  • @terryteed1903
    @terryteed1903 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohh Dave, that blooper was amazing, had me rolling on The floor of the van. Nice touch at the start of the Vid. ✌️.

  • @JoseFcoBN
    @JoseFcoBN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always use oversized power supplies, it is good to have a considerable margin, better 24V.40Amp.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good point.. 40 amps is a lot.. but I was figuring this is a seat mover.. If it takes more than 25 amps to move me.. I probably need to lose some weight or something! .. Anyway.. It stalls way higher than I thought it would but we will see what happens . If we (me and you guys, that is..) get some good data from these tests it will help people decide Dave

    • @JoseFcoBN
      @JoseFcoBN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DMAX_DIY Yes, 40 Amp. too much, but keep in mind that they are cheap power supplies (NOT certified) and will never actually reach 40Amp.
      The cheap ones reach 65/70% of the nominal Amperage, and MeanWell will reach 95% even if the price of the certified one doubled...

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JoseFcoBN Well.. I have 850 amps in my 12 volt system.. 850.. just saying.. I'm not running out of power anytime soon on the 3DOF .. This is new stuff for me.. Dave

  • @RacerXtc
    @RacerXtc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good Job Dave, Missed your last video got 2 for 1 today :o) So Close..up Next 6DOF Then can't wait for your backyard Roller Coaster build video

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey buddy! Thanks for checking back in!! 6DOF.. man that would be epic!! Gotta get big motors for that.. SIX of them! Dave

  • @d_yalcin
    @d_yalcin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for taking your time to help us deciding on which motors we could use! Seems like these motors are even strong enough to move a full rig instead of only the seat.
    Looking forward for your next videos! 🙂

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the comment Deniz.. You just never know.. I'm a bit skeptical still cause of the gear ratio. We will see ! Dave

  • @hippysplace
    @hippysplace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks great D, can't wait for the next one!

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks my friend! Yes.. I just wish I could 'speed up the process'.. but I'm just not able to squeeze in the time I wish I could.. So add another episode I guess! Dave

  • @brailynnematheny167
    @brailynnematheny167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great vid D Max!! Top notch tutorials 👍

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for checkin in B! I appreciate your comment for sure! DMAX

  • @henryjames3580
    @henryjames3580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Henry! DMAX

  • @nrome49
    @nrome49 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I cant wait to see it all done

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for checking in Nick! Yeah it should be great! hopefully no more disasters.. but you never know till you push the limit! DMAX

  • @Driving_the_virtual_world
    @Driving_the_virtual_world 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    more amazing DIY stuff...love it 😊

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Too Cool my friends! Thanks for checking in! Dave

  • @KeremYurtsevenOfficial
    @KeremYurtsevenOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You make complex things look simple :D

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the comment Kerem! I just work hard that's all.. But Hope this info is helpful to people who may want to build one for themselves.. Never know where the info could lead them.. Maybe they will become the next big designer of stuff.. Dave

    • @KeremYurtsevenOfficial
      @KeremYurtsevenOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DMAX_DIY That's a great perspective.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KeremYurtsevenOfficial You never know. Might help someone do something big.. Dave

  • @itsJaeTeal
    @itsJaeTeal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your insight

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the comment! I just came out with a new series for a 3DOF compact simulator.. th-cam.com/play/PLO8l70qEp71MER1P0D-BBZza_gqzzmgp_.html
      Take a look if you have time.. Thanks Dave

  • @cupcakecups9112
    @cupcakecups9112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is awesome! ive watched all of your build videos. so great! thanks for making these! can you do a more indepth video of how you modified yor rig for traction loss?

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for the idea.. Yeah I did not really cover the traction loss very well.. I'll do that on an upcoming episode. Check! Thanks Dave

  • @humblegeorge
    @humblegeorge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good to see you Dave :>) Amazing how you do this stuff.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for checking in humblegeorge! Somehow it takes a lot out of me sometimes to make these builds.. But if I'm helping anyone out, its worth it. Cause I was pretty confused before I began my first build and felt like I was risking a lot, but turns out I was not.. Just lacking cohesive info. Now just trying to post helpful stuff for folks.. Thanks again! Dave

    • @humblegeorge
      @humblegeorge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DMAX_DIY your welcome Buddy :>) Cheers mate.

  • @bake331029
    @bake331029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the videos. I'm starting to build a 1DoF (traction loss only) and have found you videos very helpful. xsimulator is full of info, but I find it very difficult to find what I'm looking for so the videos have been great (plus the links to the important parts of xsimulator).

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh that's great! TL is super cool my friend. And a LOT of FUN! I appreciate your comment and glad some of my info could help! Dave

  • @happninmojo
    @happninmojo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video as always.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks my friend! Hope I make em better and more informative each time.. Dave

  • @dCA0802
    @dCA0802 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video ❤❤

  • @ClickerSnapper01
    @ClickerSnapper01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The project is coming right along I see. Them motors are stout! Could they be too strong?? Looking forward to the outcome.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for taking a look.. No they will not be too strong.. You can set that up in the software.. So If you drive a real low powered car, it will act like it.. If you drive a formula 1 car. Yep it will definitely act like an F1 car.. so it's better to have way more power available than not.. Check back, probably having another video out late this weekend.. Dave

    • @ClickerSnapper01
      @ClickerSnapper01 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DMAX_DIY Oh yeah I see. As you can tell, I know very little about motion rigs. Thanks to your posts, I'm learning a lot about them.
      I sure wish I could experience a motion rig on some of the awesome tracks I've just acquired and racing in the events over at Sir Spats Gaming Server for Assetto Corsa, the Prague, 1966 Spa, and Targa Florio tracks. I ran the Targa Hotlap Challenge in about 45 minutes. I would not ask you to try and make a video of you running that one in your full motion rig, but If you ever want to make a video running a track again maybe with this project your working on to showcase it or your FM rig, Please consider Prague or 1966 Spa tracks, they are shorter but man are they great tracks!. Of course if you do decide to enter the Targa event be sure to video it! Even if you just cruising the track and not really trying to make time. I for one would watch it in it's entirety. Oh the only reason I'm even mentioning this, as you probably already know I'm 62 and when I see other fellas around my age having a thrill of a drive, well I just think that's the good stuff. I do like reading all the comments you are getting from this project as well, till next time, enjoy and don't short anything out! -Clicker

  • @karelknightmare6712
    @karelknightmare6712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice video. Do you plan to create a surge dedicated motor. "Low" power shouldn't be an issue.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the question! Not sure.. We could use a couple batteries if needed.. I'll play it by ear.. Dave

    • @karelknightmare6712
      @karelknightmare6712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DMAX_DIY sorry. English is not my mother tongue.
      I meant a motor similar to the one dedicated to traction loss but for the surge motion.
      I have recently tried a 3 DOF racing sim in a store and I missed the « kick » forward on gas and backwards on brakes.
      I guess that with good wheels, a wiper motor could do just fine.

  • @Proximo011
    @Proximo011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well said brother. This isn't right this war

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I wanted to say a bit more.. but I hold off .. Cant help thinking about those refugees.. Lives were totally destroyed.. But looks like the world is pretty pissed off right now about it..

  • @SingleRacerSVR
    @SingleRacerSVR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    MORE TORQUE!!!.............................. I think I just got a little turned on, hahahaha. Great so see another D Max Production, er um, D Max ; )))

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep.. MAX Torque!! That's funny.. I appreciate you checking in and commenting! Hope it's all going good for you SingleRacer! DMAX

  • @FynSpace
    @FynSpace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Dave - thanks for these vids! starting my own build here as soon as everything shows up. I got the same motors you did here, and really appreciate you doing this testing on them... Good stuff. Did you ever get the torque measured? Also I noticed you mentioned they're 20:1, but saw you have 18:1 written on them. Curious which is the right one :D
    I'm trying to get all the specs sorted out for simcalc, but I'm missing some info still. Oddly, it seems no data sheet was ever written for these lol.
    Thanks!

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the comments Adam.. Yeah One is 20:1 one is 18:1.. Perplexing.. but then again they were only like $60.. The motors stalled out at around 20 amps.. which was higher than expected. So we will see how it works out with the 25 amp power supplies. Worked on the sim today getting some footage for the next video.. Stay tuned my friend! Dave

    • @FynSpace
      @FynSpace 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DMAX_DIY Awesome, thanks! Any idea what the torque is? My motors showed up this morning - they work! Looking forward to the next vid!

  • @KeremYurtsevenOfficial
    @KeremYurtsevenOfficial 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And by the way will you design something and cover back of your rig when your project is over?

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably not.. cause it's a Test Rig.. I'll just keep putting new parts on it and trying different configurations till I cover all the ones I want to.. So for now, no . Thanks for the comment! Dave

  • @protomor
    @protomor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I watched this video series about 5x before building mine and this has been super invaluable. I think my only issues is that the pots seem noisy and the motors are constantly chattering. I don't see movement but it definitely seems like the system is working when it shouldn't be. I think that's your point about a hall sensor instead of a mechanical pot. Any advice?

    • @dgator7251
      @dgator7251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ensure good connections to everything and make sure you are using shielded cable and ferrite chokes for your pot connections and not running them next to power cables. Also make sure your PWMmin is not too high as well as bumping up your fpid a couple notches can help.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dgator7251 I agree with DGator here.. I found that once I soldered the connections it helped my 3DOF rig. Also The PWMin can affect it.

  • @JohnFobbs-h8k
    @JohnFobbs-h8k ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my names John

  • @humblegeorge
    @humblegeorge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Two weeks ? I have had two weeks of trouble too Dave .In fact a whole computer rebuild is in the works.I hope to back after the 21st of this month.
    the devil is busy these days bringing discord between even friends .Things are ramping up World wide and the Bible has told us all this right along.
    I am comited to walk forward in life with out hating anyone.I am put at odds due to my stand and friends and they are leaving me several at a time.
    Well,it is what it is.I do not watch ( any ) TV .None period.So my World view is not that of the average person.And I keep it to myself now, as I am
    attacked for having my own opinion.Cheers buddy .

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah it's been pretty messed up.. I'm P.O'd about it too. I had a lot more on my mind, but very important that people realize the kids will be impacted for a long long time .. I cant imagine .. Dave

    • @humblegeorge
      @humblegeorge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DMAX_DIY Do your best to stay walking in love .No one likes a bully.
      Yet some bring Judgement on them selves.We do not know the whole picture.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@humblegeorge Been pretty busy this week working.. Finally Friday and back home.. Need to put my feet up and take it easy for a little while Thanks my friend! Dave

  • @oliverf944
    @oliverf944 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you done the test of the 10k wire bound potentiometer? In nz I can’t find hall potentiometer so I’m thinking to use analog hall sensors with magnets. A49e hall sensors are dirt cheap and readily available

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would go with the 180 degree hall effect pots.. I order them from digi-key.. 180 degrees is all you need plus with the hall effect, they can spin all the way around without encountering any physical resistance.
      I think I have them linked in the description.. No.. I have some 10k wire wound ones.. I have not had time to test them.. I think the hall effect would have less interference EMI than wire wound.. but I do plan to test them next year.. Dave

  • @piggehdeluxe
    @piggehdeluxe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video.
    Is it easy to set up 2 arduinos for running more than 3 motors, the quides i find tells me to do 2 replica setups with ibt and arduinos but they dont show how to set it up when you calibrate the motors and sign every motion to axies.
    Going to build surge, sway, tc, and yaw.
    Gonna start with the easy 3 dof and later ad sway and surge if i can build it.
    Quessing the hard part is wheigt for the sway and surge, but going to be fun to try.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, I think it should be, they will be on separate com ports.. I have seen several people do it for their projects. Its just communications setup between each Arduino and the SMC3. Way more info on x-simulator.net forum.. Also maybe check out 6 Degrees of flights video too.. He uses two and describes how to use them. I'll make a video about it at some point but probably next year so here is a link to his video If they let me post it here.. th-cam.com/video/m76rkAmur_k/w-d-xo.html

    • @piggehdeluxe
      @piggehdeluxe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DMAX_DIY tnx man that video was what i needed :)

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@piggehdeluxe Tune in again.. Hopefully I get some time to work on it this weekend.. I'm working all week away from my garage.. so I only get a little time to work on it + house chores ! hahah Dave

    • @piggehdeluxe
      @piggehdeluxe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DMAX_DIY cant wait for the next episode :)

  • @jparish2469
    @jparish2469 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi what tube are you using for the motor to seat many thanks .prepping for my 1st build .

  • @SaintMeTube
    @SaintMeTube 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought all of the same motors, Arduino and motor controllers. Where is the sketch for the Arduino? Not clear to me how to get SMC3 talking to the motors.

  • @dragonjerod
    @dragonjerod 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you code the arduino so if a signal is being sent to the motor but no changes were read from the potentiometer it will power off? That would be a good fail safe. Maybe add an led or a screen showing an error code.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah good question.. And I have the answer.. In the SMC3 software, it does that with the CLIP limits and the MAX limits.. So the Clip limits will try and reverse power the motor when it approaches the CLIP.. If it passes the CLIP, it will still try and reverse power the motors until it reaches the MAX Limits. Then the motor will shut off.. I have a new video out which I try and explain it a bit better.. Take a look if you have time.. here is the link.. th-cam.com/video/KrTEpgaQViQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @henryjames3580
    @henryjames3580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where can I find more about how to use xsimulator in your videos

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Henry, so X-simulator is kind of a forum that all the motion sim builders use to either show their stuff, learn how to build stuff or have questions on motion sim stuff. Here is my link to my build page.. www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/full-frame-2-dof-traction-loss-new-build.14740/ So on the x-simulator.net page you can get your PLUG in programs for various games.. www.xsimulator.net/simtools-motion-simulator-software/
      You can download SImtools and also SMC3.. www.xsimulator.net/community/threads/smc3-arduino-3dof-motor-driver-and-windows-utilities.4957/
      This is not my site.. I just use the software and plugins and post some of my build stuff.. The moderator NOORBEAST is very helpful if you have questions.. Dave

  • @henryjames3580
    @henryjames3580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't find motors like that will I need a right side and left side

    • @JoseFcoBN
      @JoseFcoBN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      24v wheelchair motor,yes,left right.

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes.. these were left and right.. But.. On my 3DOF rig, the crab pot motors were agnostic.. sort of.. I just put the armature on whatever side I wanted to..

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JoseFcoBN Yes.. these were left and right.. But.. On my 3DOF rig, the crab pot motors were agnostic.. sort of.. I just put the armature on whatever side I wanted to..

    • @henryjames3580
      @henryjames3580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DMAX_DIY thanks for your info and your time

    • @DMAX_DIY
      @DMAX_DIY  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@henryjames3580 Yeah.. I just keep checking.. I'm the same as you my friend! DMAX

  • @JohnFobbs-h8k
    @JohnFobbs-h8k ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you build me one even if it's a seat mover I would love to race with you but I don't have a simulator and I don't have the equipment to build one