It's criminal you don't have more subs you've got to be the most informative channel on TH-cam when it comes to DIY motion rigs. I can read XSim forum posts all day long but these videos really connect better for my brain.
Thanks RicheyB.. Hopefully It will catch on.. Once I retire, I'll have a bit more time to make tutorials and stuff. Right now.. Just a couple days a month. I appreciate you saying that.. It means a lot to me.. I was in the same position with x sim.. lot of reading.. nobody showing how they actually did it or what things they encountered. SO.. Figured I would do it.. Cheers! Dave
congratulations Nick and thanks Dave again, you reached the point of the construction, perhaps the most delicate for me, when I wanted to balance my weight, I did not take into account the weight of the additional components to the structure and that was my mistake, I changed the point center and balance. now I learned to take into account the total weight. Thank you
Yeah there a bit to consider.. So i even gave myself some adjustability (a little bit) in case I change the pedals or get a heavier WB or whatever.. I went from G25 plastic wheels to the V3 and it changed the balance point about 4 inches on the other rig.. Thanks for watching my friend! Dave
It's looking good so far.. next video up is 'wiring up the arduino and IBT and the IBT to the motors.. should be informational.. **no welding** hahah.. Thanks for a great comment and hope you can tune in.. I also have a few more simtools pro to 'give away'.. so try and check in when you can.. Dave
Thanks for takin a look Cameron.. I'm just starting to tape the Electrical stuff.. I have a few other videos on it but Figured i would do it again.. Better this time.. Thanks for commenting! Dave
Excelente trabajo!! No puedo esperar al siguiente video, gracias a tu inspiración estoy haciendo un simulador con pérdida de tracción, una abrazo grande crack 💪
Translation: Excellent work!! I can't wait for the next video, thanks to your inspiration I'm making a simulator with loss of traction, a big hug Thanks you CAI_77 next video up is the 'wiring' .. arduino to IBT and Motors to IBT.. stay tuned my friend and thanks for the great comment! Dave
Thanks David, great trick finding the center of gravity, cannot wait for the next one, already have all the electronics, so I will wait for the next to set everything up (having some problems with the motors from a Renault Twingo power steering, hope to get that fixed to benchmark the electrical part)
Yes Luis.. Center is very important.. and when or (if) you change your rig up with different pedals (especially cause the weight is way out there) or a different seat - you may notice your rig moving differently than before.. Happened to me when I changed from G25 plastic pedals to the V3.. the rig just seemed.. 'dead' all of a sudden.. That's cause the Center of balance moved.. I redid the center of balance - welded in some new bracing for the u joint and it's been awesome for the last 2 years.. So next video up is a 'wiring' video.. hope you can 'tune in'.. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY Nice tip, I still have an old GT logitech wheel that I will replace, eventually, I will try to build the rig taking into account that I will have to change the center of gravity, when this happens. I had to abandon the Renault motors idea, looking for alternatives that don't involve giving up one of my kidneys 😜
@@lpinho77 Well you need the kidneys.. so maybe something less invasive.. That's sucks.. did they just 'not work' or could not isolate the 'grounding'? I tried those WW motors I had in a video series, but never could get them powerful enough to seem real. I would figure that $100 bucks per motor is probably a good idea to get ones with the right amount of power.. It's just difficult to source them worldwide.. I get mine from canada.. and even then, they were 'out of stock' for like 8 months.. Keep trying.. worth the effort my friend! Dave
@@DMAX_DIY hi, I was able to make the motor spin, but the gear and shaft were not moving, after decoupling the motor from the gear, I noticed that the torque of the motor was so low that I could stop it with a small touch of my finger. Since the motors were about 75 euros each, I return them and I'm now looking for a new set. I found some wheel chair motors for 100 euros in amazon, 24v around 75 rpm, they look nice and another builder is using them in a compact build. Let's see 😊, not giving up
@@lpinho77 Good update.. yeah ya never know and 75 euros is a lot.. Torque is everything with these things. Ok I did a series on 24volt just before this series. I wanted to see if I could use AC to DC converters and it did work fine on a 2DOF seatmover. Dave
very cool comment my friend!.. Hey I'm just putting out a new series in a few minutes - Getting your compact motion sim up and running - (or something like that) Stay tuned and hope you like the new series.. Dave
Yes, Rebar77.. Nick seems pretty happy! I would be too If I won.. I had to buy it a few years back and now I can give a few away.. weird.. stay tuned if you can.. Next video is wiring arduino to IBT and IBT to motors and wherever we get from there.. I know this vid was pretty long for me so Hope to make the next one **not as long** haha Dave
Your welcome my friend! Be sure to check out some of the other videos.. Should be starting a new series soon.. **wiring Arduinos Motors, SMC3 and SIMTOOLS setup** Probably this weekend I will be doing it.. Dave
Gratz to Nick! Dave. Another great video, things are really taking shape. Looking forward to seeing the next series. I think I have a good idea (and now a great reference thanks to your videos) on the motion platform build. I recently bought a motor to test and got my uno and motor drivers so I am especially looking forward to the software setup/etc. As for wiring, have you put any thought about running things internal in the tubing? Would make for a really slick look.
Yeah, actually going to be consolodating the wiring and giving it a lot more thought on this rig.. The other one, I just kept tearing it apart and modding it so never got to wire management.. I will be doing so on this one. Thanks for watching and the wiring and software videos are coming up next.. Dave
Yeah I probably broke it.. I'll see what they say after some specific troubleshooting.. It is what it is.. I do remember being able to feel the 'lock up' on the brakes but that was a couple years ago.. Dave
Is the butt kicker not redundant on a motion rig? I’m getting so much rd vibration now through the 2dof motors and force feedback steering wheel. Your new rig looks so comfortable!
Good question.. not at all is the answer.. The buttkicker adds a whole lot of immersion.. I'm in VR so cant really see anything except the VR view so the more things that are tactile the better.. Just turn down the forces you dont want to feel as much if you add a buttkicker.. Make them specific for "SHIFTING" or Front lockup - they are configurable through SIM HUB.. I cant do without it.. Dave
I have the 24v wheel chair motors, I am having problems with the motors spinning too far one way. I have the middle set, but when it goes up are down it goes past the lowest point and highest point. I seen in one of your videos you talked about gear ratio, is there a setting where you can change that? I also like to say thanks for all the great videos you have put out on how to do this!!!
First, Thanks for watching my video. I appreciate it. Ok so this could be two things.. First, IN the SMC3 software, you have Clip limits and Max Limits (max is where it will shut off signal to the motor causing it to stop).. These readings a given from the potentiometer or the Hall Effect sensor connected to the motor shaft. What I would do, is go back to SMC3 and look at the blue line (the potentiometer reading). The motor should shut off when the blue line intersects with the red (max limits).. Feel free to expand on your question as I am on the road this week and will be able to respond.. hopefully we can get this sorted out.. Also I do have around 90 other videos and most of the series's deal with issues and how to solve them.. Let me know.. Dave
Thanks for the reply, sorry it's took so long to get back with you. I think that fixed my spinning too far problem, but I have another problem. I have the 2 motors mounted like you have yours, one of my motors spins one way and the other one goes the other way, now I don't know if that really is a problem because it still works, however every time I restart sim tools, I have to change the boxes I have checked for the motors to spin together. I will start it and if I got a box checked for surge and pitch, they no longer go up and down they go side to side, And the roll and sway go up and down, I have to swap the boxes i have checked. I also like to let you know that the driver side motor is hooked up on the ibt 2 with the black wire where it says positive and red is in the negative hole the other one is wired up red to positive and black to negative. I have watched your video on how you talked about how the motors may have to be wired different, I also have my POTS mounted on back side of motor not the front I drilled a hole in the back side of the transmission and hooked them up that way. Thanks for any help you can give me, I don't think I could have done this without your videos.
@@DMAX_DIY Thanks for the reply, sorry it's took so long to get back with you. I think that fixed my spinning too far problem, but I have another problem. I have the 2 motors mounted like you have yours, one of my motors spins one way and the other one goes the other way, now I don't know if that really is a problem because it still works, however every time I restart sim tools, I have to change the boxes I have checked for the motors to spin together. I will start it and if I got a box checked for surge and pitch, they no longer go up and down they go side to side, And the roll and sway go up and down, I have to swap the boxes i have checked. I also like to let you know that the driver side motor is hooked up on the ibt 2 with the black wire where it says positive and red is in the negative hole the other one is wired up red to positive and black to negative. I have watched your video on how you talked about how the motors may have to be wired different, I also have my POTS mounted on back side of motor not the front I drilled a hole in the back side of the transmission and hooked them up that way. Thanks for any help you can give me, I don't think I could have done this without your videos.
Way to go Dave! project is coming right along. Congrats to Nick. You have your hands full so I catch you later! -George H. But hey I have a question...This just came to mind. Isn't that the DD unit for a Play Station?? I got the csl dd. I'll go to Fanatec and answer this my self though. I mean you could answer...but I know you are busy. Take care all.😏 Nevermind I went to their site. I see it now. CU
Was a treat to 'try and catch your today'.. I dropped into the race right at quali - never been to the track before so was a big learning curve.. Yeah the DD pro is for PS and PC.. so I'm good.. cant wait to get it set up and see what it feels like! Thanks for watching George.. Dave
Hey Dave, another video where I am sad as it ends. You are doing all this in an awesome pleasent way man !!! Congratulation for that. Well since I beat you the first time in the GentlemansLeague of the AssettoCorsaFriends last weekend I will donate so you can afford the tissues for drying your tears - BUT ... naaaaaaa: You got beat by The Worlds Worst SimRacer - incredible me []-) Cheers my dear friend!
... I really would have liked to donate but I could not verify my credit card number ... I'll check with my bank and donate in a couple of ... month I gues cause I have no time to check with my bank at the moment :(
Your too cool ART!! Great to see you on track on Saturdays and thanks for watching.. I'm checking the discord pretty much every night cause all our buddies hang out there.. See you soon! Dave
@@ARTFLY dont worry about that.. your good with me.. It's just great to another motion sim guy racing against.. Those static rigs dont stand a chance once we get in some practice! See ya ! Dave
Thanks for watching James.. Yeah.. it's tough not being 24 anymore.. hahah.. Mid life struggle is real... hahah! New video should be out in a week or so.. Wiring up the arduino IBT and IBT to the motors.. etc.. It's going to be great! *I hope* hahah
It's criminal you don't have more subs you've got to be the most informative channel on TH-cam when it comes to DIY motion rigs. I can read XSim forum posts all day long but these videos really connect better for my brain.
Thanks RicheyB.. Hopefully It will catch on.. Once I retire, I'll have a bit more time to make tutorials and stuff. Right now.. Just a couple days a month. I appreciate you saying that.. It means a lot to me.. I was in the same position with x sim.. lot of reading.. nobody showing how they actually did it or what things they encountered. SO.. Figured I would do it.. Cheers! Dave
@23:10 "not too bad for an old guy". That's facts, you're killing it man.
Tool Cool Nick! haha! Thanks for the kind words! Dave
Great Job Dave, Be great to see you Racing and enjoying this Rig. Really Close
Thanks my friend! Yeah.. Things are 'looking up' just a matter of time now.. Doing the wiring and then software next.. Dave
Rig’s looking great!! Keep it up D Max 😎 Congrats to the winner!!
Your the best B! .. I'll keep pluggin along.. you see it every week so.. hahahah! D
congratulations Nick and thanks Dave again, you reached the point of the construction, perhaps the most delicate for me, when I wanted to balance my weight, I did not take into account the weight of the additional components to the structure and that was my mistake, I changed the point center and balance. now I learned to take into account the total weight. Thank you
Yeah there a bit to consider.. So i even gave myself some adjustability (a little bit) in case I change the pedals or get a heavier WB or whatever.. I went from G25 plastic wheels to the V3 and it changed the balance point about 4 inches on the other rig.. Thanks for watching my friend! Dave
Congrats Nick! Looking Good D-Max!! Thanks for Adding me to the Give Away!!! Can't wait till the Finish Product!!! Keep Up the Awesome Work!!!
It's looking good so far.. next video up is 'wiring up the arduino and IBT and the IBT to the motors.. should be informational.. **no welding** hahah.. Thanks for a great comment and hope you can tune in.. I also have a few more simtools pro to 'give away'.. so try and check in when you can.. Dave
Congrats Nick!
Looking forward for the finished rig Dave.
Thanks my friend! Nice Comment! yeah.. it's getting there.. just stay tuned in.. Dave
Can't wait to see how it's all handled software / electrical wise
Thanks for takin a look Cameron.. I'm just starting to tape the Electrical stuff.. I have a few other videos on it but Figured i would do it again.. Better this time.. Thanks for commenting! Dave
Excelente trabajo!! No puedo esperar al siguiente video, gracias a tu inspiración estoy haciendo un simulador con pérdida de tracción, una abrazo grande crack 💪
Translation: Excellent work!! I can't wait for the next video, thanks to your inspiration I'm making a simulator with loss of traction, a big hug Thanks you CAI_77 next video up is the 'wiring' .. arduino to IBT and Motors to IBT.. stay tuned my friend and thanks for the great comment! Dave
Thanks David, great trick finding the center of gravity, cannot wait for the next one, already have all the electronics, so I will wait for the next to set everything up (having some problems with the motors from a Renault Twingo power steering, hope to get that fixed to benchmark the electrical part)
Yes Luis.. Center is very important.. and when or (if) you change your rig up with different pedals (especially cause the weight is way out there) or a different seat - you may notice your rig moving differently than before.. Happened to me when I changed from G25 plastic pedals to the V3.. the rig just seemed.. 'dead' all of a sudden.. That's cause the Center of balance moved.. I redid the center of balance - welded in some new bracing for the u joint and it's been awesome for the last 2 years.. So next video up is a 'wiring' video.. hope you can 'tune in'.. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY Nice tip, I still have an old GT logitech wheel that I will replace, eventually, I will try to build the rig taking into account that I will have to change the center of gravity, when this happens. I had to abandon the Renault motors idea, looking for alternatives that don't involve giving up one of my kidneys 😜
@@lpinho77 Well you need the kidneys.. so maybe something less invasive.. That's sucks.. did they just 'not work' or could not isolate the 'grounding'? I tried those WW motors I had in a video series, but never could get them powerful enough to seem real. I would figure that $100 bucks per motor is probably a good idea to get ones with the right amount of power.. It's just difficult to source them worldwide.. I get mine from canada.. and even then, they were 'out of stock' for like 8 months.. Keep trying.. worth the effort my friend! Dave
@@DMAX_DIY hi, I was able to make the motor spin, but the gear and shaft were not moving, after decoupling the motor from the gear, I noticed that the torque of the motor was so low that I could stop it with a small touch of my finger. Since the motors were about 75 euros each, I return them and I'm now looking for a new set. I found some wheel chair motors for 100 euros in amazon, 24v around 75 rpm, they look nice and another builder is using them in a compact build. Let's see 😊, not giving up
@@lpinho77 Good update.. yeah ya never know and 75 euros is a lot.. Torque is everything with these things. Ok I did a series on 24volt just before this series. I wanted to see if I could use AC to DC converters and it did work fine on a 2DOF seatmover. Dave
Impresive!!! Total inspiration to build my own! :D
very cool comment my friend!.. Hey I'm just putting out a new series in a few minutes - Getting your compact motion sim up and running - (or something like that) Stay tuned and hope you like the new series..
Dave
@@DMAX_DIY Definitely won't miss it!
@@marciocaster1524 Cool.. I'm uploading it now.. Might take an hour to get it sorted. Thank you!
@@marciocaster1524 Posted the video.. dang! I think it's ok.. Dave
Grats Nick!
Yes, Rebar77.. Nick seems pretty happy! I would be too If I won.. I had to buy it a few years back and now I can give a few away.. weird.. stay tuned if you can.. Next video is wiring arduino to IBT and IBT to motors and wherever we get from there.. I know this vid was pretty long for me so Hope to make the next one **not as long** haha Dave
Great work dude, love seeing this coming together, you're inspiring me to start building! Good on you!
Keep pluggin along my friend! Great to see you watching.. This is all DIY.. That means anyone can DIY.. I try and show you all how.. Dave
Thank you sir
Your welcome my friend! Be sure to check out some of the other videos.. Should be starting a new series soon.. **wiring Arduinos Motors, SMC3 and SIMTOOLS setup** Probably this weekend I will be doing it.. Dave
Gratz to Nick!
Dave. Another great video, things are really taking shape. Looking forward to seeing the next series. I think I have a good idea (and now a great reference thanks to your videos) on the motion platform build. I recently bought a motor to test and got my uno and motor drivers so I am especially looking forward to the software setup/etc. As for wiring, have you put any thought about running things internal in the tubing? Would make for a really slick look.
Yeah, actually going to be consolodating the wiring and giving it a lot more thought on this rig.. The other one, I just kept tearing it apart and modding it so never got to wire management.. I will be doing so on this one. Thanks for watching and the wiring and software videos are coming up next.. Dave
Waiting for give away bro
I gave the controller away during a follow up video - earlier this year.. thanks for watching though dave
If i remember right from my instructions of the v3 pedals do not plug both in usb and other cable at the same time you will break the board
Yeah I probably broke it.. I'll see what they say after some specific troubleshooting.. It is what it is.. I do remember being able to feel the 'lock up' on the brakes but that was a couple years ago.. Dave
Is the butt kicker not redundant on a motion rig? I’m getting so much rd vibration now through the 2dof motors and force feedback steering wheel. Your new rig looks so comfortable!
Good question.. not at all is the answer.. The buttkicker adds a whole lot of immersion.. I'm in VR so cant really see anything except the VR view so the more things that are tactile the better.. Just turn down the forces you dont want to feel as much if you add a buttkicker.. Make them specific for "SHIFTING" or Front lockup - they are configurable through SIM HUB.. I cant do without it.. Dave
I have the 24v wheel chair motors, I am having problems with the motors spinning too far one way. I have the middle set, but when it goes up are down it goes past the lowest point and highest point. I seen in one of your videos you talked about gear ratio, is there a setting where you can change that? I also like to say thanks for all the great videos you have put out on how to do this!!!
First, Thanks for watching my video. I appreciate it. Ok so this could be two things.. First, IN the SMC3 software, you have Clip limits and Max Limits (max is where it will shut off signal to the motor causing it to stop).. These readings a given from the potentiometer or the Hall Effect sensor connected to the motor shaft. What I would do, is go back to SMC3 and look at the blue line (the potentiometer reading). The motor should shut off when the blue line intersects with the red (max limits).. Feel free to expand on your question as I am on the road this week and will be able to respond.. hopefully we can get this sorted out.. Also I do have around 90 other videos and most of the series's deal with issues and how to solve them.. Let me know.. Dave
Thanks for the reply, sorry it's took so long to get back with you. I think that fixed my spinning too far problem, but I have another problem. I have the 2 motors mounted like you have yours, one of my motors spins one way and the other one goes the other way, now I don't know if that really is a problem because it still works, however every time I restart sim tools, I have to change the boxes I have checked for the motors to spin together. I will start it and if I got a box checked for surge and pitch, they no longer go up and down they go side to side, And the roll and sway go up and down, I have to swap the boxes i have checked. I also like to let you know that the driver side motor is hooked up on the ibt 2 with the black wire where it says positive and red is in the negative hole the other one is wired up red to positive and black to negative. I have watched your video on how you talked about how the motors may have to be wired different, I also have my POTS mounted on back side of motor not the front I drilled a hole in the back side of the transmission and hooked them up that way. Thanks for any help you can give me, I don't think I could have done this without your videos.
@@DMAX_DIY Thanks for the reply, sorry it's took so long to get back with you. I think that fixed my spinning too far problem, but I have another problem. I have the 2 motors mounted like you have yours, one of my motors spins one way and the other one goes the other way, now I don't know if that really is a problem because it still works, however every time I restart sim tools, I have to change the boxes I have checked for the motors to spin together. I will start it and if I got a box checked for surge and pitch, they no longer go up and down they go side to side, And the roll and sway go up and down, I have to swap the boxes i have checked. I also like to let you know that the driver side motor is hooked up on the ibt 2 with the black wire where it says positive and red is in the negative hole the other one is wired up red to positive and black to negative. I have watched your video on how you talked about how the motors may have to be wired different, I also have my POTS mounted on back side of motor not the front I drilled a hole in the back side of the transmission and hooked them up that way. Thanks for any help you can give me, I don't think I could have done this without your videos.
Way to go Dave! project is coming right along. Congrats to Nick. You have your hands full so I catch you later! -George H. But hey I have a question...This just came to mind. Isn't that the DD unit for a Play Station?? I got the csl dd. I'll go to Fanatec and answer this my self though. I mean you could answer...but I know you are busy. Take care all.😏 Nevermind I went to their site. I see it now. CU
Was a treat to 'try and catch your today'.. I dropped into the race right at quali - never been to the track before so was a big learning curve.. Yeah the DD pro is for PS and PC.. so I'm good.. cant wait to get it set up and see what it feels like! Thanks for watching George.. Dave
@@DMAX_DIY Yeah man good to see you! Can't wait to see that new equipment in action!!
Hey Dave, another video where I am sad as it ends. You are doing all this in an awesome pleasent way man !!! Congratulation for that. Well since I beat you the first time in the GentlemansLeague of the AssettoCorsaFriends last weekend I will donate so you can afford the tissues for drying your tears - BUT ... naaaaaaa: You got beat by The Worlds Worst SimRacer - incredible me []-)
Cheers my dear friend!
... I really would have liked to donate but I could not verify my credit card number ... I'll check with my bank and donate in a couple of ... month I gues cause I have no time to check with my bank at the moment :(
Your too cool ART!! Great to see you on track on Saturdays and thanks for watching.. I'm checking the discord pretty much every night cause all our buddies hang out there.. See you soon! Dave
@@ARTFLY dont worry about that.. your good with me.. It's just great to another motion sim guy racing against.. Those static rigs dont stand a chance once we get in some practice! See ya ! Dave
Great video again don’t worry Dave we all could lose some weight and I’m not going to either 😅
Thanks for watching James.. Yeah.. it's tough not being 24 anymore.. hahah.. Mid life struggle is real... hahah! New video should be out in a week or so.. Wiring up the arduino IBT and IBT to the motors.. etc.. It's going to be great! *I hope* hahah
I'll even pick up the part's you need
Let me know if you need a son man…. I’m good with yard work and building stuff. I just wanna play on the sims when you’re at work.
Great comment! Thanks so much! Made me chuckle.. I'm still working.. and get a few hours every saturday to build or play..
I want one
Promo*SM 🤔
I think that means good job Dave.. Not sure.. cause I'm old.. All the best Jeffery. Dave
please help
sim tools pro!
Thanks for taking a look.. But that give a way ended.. BUT good news.. I have another one coming up soon.. Stay tuned if you can..