I would love it if you did an in depth story on the reason why Richie Sambora left Bon Jovi. I’m a massive Richie fan and I feel we don’t have the true reason why he left. Cheers.
Seems like a small oversight not to have mentioned that Scott Weiland is in fact dead and that might be a major factor in them not being able to reunite.
One that is half the size he was in the 90s. Just looking at him you knew what was up! I saw them live though and my God, high frontmen are the best frontmen
@Sand Hanitizer yeah, I agree. The Stones were their absolute Best while Keith was using dope -> sticky fingers & exile on mainstreet .... absolutely fabulous! I know, sorry - different band.
Velvet Revolver's first album Contraband was a damn fine effort that holds up well today, but I knew from the beginning that there was no way the supergroup would last.
I saw them live a few shows before they split up in England in Brighton. I remember Duff looking miserable on stage and Scott didn’t interact or even look at the other band members once. He also didn’t interact with the crowed , he basically sung songs one after another and left the stage. I remember duff looked like he didn’t want to be there.
Probably because when they went to Birmingham Scott stood with one foot on the stage and the other on the barrier leant over the crowd and someone yanked his chain round his neck. I don't think they got it but it shook him. Slash had a good old chuckle to himself while watching it unfold much to my amusement as most of the crowd had heard what happened around 3/4 nights earlier in Glasgow and gave a huge cheer as he struggled to keep his balance. I think after that he knew pretty much all their audience were against him which was a shame for the fans after that because that may have been the last performance he did actually put some energy into
I was at the Glasgow gig. I remember they were playing then Scott just announced "this is the last time you will ever see Velvet Revolver". I just stood there thinking did I just hear that? Duff clearly thought the same as he just started looking at Slash and Dave like wtf!
The one time I saw STP shortly after this Scott behaved exactly the same was definitely there for the money and not the music or fans it was sadly obvious.
The one and only time I got to see STP live was at Kattfest 08. Crowd went apeshit when they got on stage, Weiland was feeding off the crowd and gave an incredible performance. A fan also rushed the stage and Scott told them to let him go, the guy got down on his knees and was crying about how big a fan he was, they then stood him up, the band gathered around him and told the audience this is what it's all about.
That’s interesting, I’d like to mention that I saw them perform once in New York during their Contraband tour. It was a great show, Weiland had his megaphone and actually walked up and down the bleachers including up to the 300s section as he was singing a song. I don’t even recall there being security and it just seemed like a spur of the moment type of thing. So I’d just like to add that if he stopped putting on great shows, he wasn’t ALWAYS like that.
That's addiction and it knows no bounds and can (and does) affect those from Every walk of life!.. It's sad Scott was never able to sober up or really get much clean time and even when he claimed to be clean, he really only meant he was clean from "heroin" and in fact did break his addiction to dope, but replaced it with the other substances that ultimately killed him and this is more common than most realize.. Many addicts jump from one substance to another and often justify this behavior!. Sadly, no amount of help can help someone that doesn't want to be helped and unfortunately (statistically) most addicts Never achieve long-term sobriety and or end up dying (in some manner) due to their addiction!.
Umm he was moderately ok. Had a vocal range of about a 1/2 an octave, and didn't really have more than one tone, he sang in. .. Slash picked him to assure he (Slash) would be the star of the band.
he was the beginning of all those singers that copped layne staley and jerry cantrells vocals...weiland at least didnt suck and stp sound can stand on its own but goddamn if weiland didn’t open the door for so many shitty fucking bands with cheezier and cheezier aic rip-off vocals...creed anyone
Great song, with a great video and a powerful message!. VR was truly a great band and Scott a tremendous talent that sadly could never get a handle on his demons!..
@Your Neighbor That's your opinion. Plenty of people would disagree. Was the opening band the band that was full of chicks? If so I have to say they were pretty kick ass from what I remember
Great video. I was 18 in 1988. I started with Guns and Roses. Guns was incredible. When Stone Temple came out, I loved them. I liked Grunge. I didn't see STP as full grunge like Nirvana. Anyway, these are the guys I listened too thru out my life. There are like my extended family.
I was at the Glasgow gig when Scott decided, unbeknownst to his band mates, that this was going to be their last gig. They all looked on in amazement. They went off stage for about 20 minutes, then came back on to finish the gig. It was an interesting night.
it’s incredible we even got two Albums from this “Super Group” I totally forgot they put out a second album (that debut is so good for what it is) But, at the same time you can just tell this band wasn’t going to last very long!
@@mr.smithgnrsmith7808 Thx I'll have to get my hands on it (either i forgot there was a follow up Velvet Revolver album or something don't remember much hype behind the second album......
Their second album was actually very good. I just think by 2007 (year of its release) the industry wasn't interested in them and it got little to no promoting. The industry by that time was only interested in either emo bands, Coldplay or anyone trying to be like Coldplay.
I completely agree with you. Before the first Velvet Revolver album came out, I remember reading about how Slash, Duff, and Matt Sorum were getting together to create a new band with the Scott Weiland of Stone Temple Pilots. I was so excited because at the time, this was basically a modern take on Guns N Roses. Needless to say I was a huge GNR fan and like so many other people, I had grown tired of Axel Roses antics and tired of waiting for his version of a new Guns N Roses album to come out. Personally, I think Velvet Revolver’s first album is more GNR than anything Axel has done since Guns broke up back in the early 90s. It’s a shame they only made two albums while Scott Weiland was still alive. I would’ve loved to hear some new music by Velvet Revolver but it just wasn’t meant to be. At least we have two records along with some great live performances. I still listen to Velvet on a semi regular basis and I’ll always remember how cool they were.
Sad when people of talent go down the dark road of substance abuse. It never fails to take them out and cut short their time of being a source of creativity.
The last gig VR did in London was at Brixton academy where I worked. I walked Scott and Slash to their cars. They were both very nice to me and Scott laughed at a joke I made when we were walking together. RIP Scott. Long live Slash!
I love how you totally skipped the fact that Wieland died whilst on tour with his band not long after.. that is probably the biggest reason for VR not getting back together...
I had the pleasure of seeing VR in Dallas on the Libertad tour in ‘07 or ‘08. No opener. The guys just came out and crushed for 2 and a half hours. They played almost every song from Contraband and Libertad, 6-7 Guns ‘N Roses songs, 6-7 STP songs, and a couple Pink Floyd covers. One of the best concert experiences I ever had. I’m grateful to have been there for that. I’ll remember it forever.
Saw Velvet Revolver live in Sydney. I was so stoked as a Guns N Roses and Stone Temple Pilots fan. It was a great gig. They even did 2 Guns covers Mr Brownstone and It's So Easy. It was a perfect blend of the 2 bands. I was in College and it was one of my first big Concert and absolutely loved it. Slash even did a solo piece and I was like 5 metres away. Contraband is a damn good album
Awesome piece - thank you for taking the time to put it out. I absolutely loved Weiland and it was sad to see his demise to heroin. Every band he was in was plagued with the addiction. 😢
Would be nice to see what they could conjure up. Though for the gnr sound and feel i think you do need at least Izzy also. Preferrably Steven as well. That not gonna happen
I remember there being a bunch of rumors that Corey Taylor was going to join the band after Scott left... Not a clue if any of it was true but it would have been awesome.
I saw velvet revolver on that final tour in 2008 at the Birmingham academy, UK. Slash and Scott got into it on stage and slash stormed off for a few minutes before returning back to the stage and carrying on with the show. Scott kept saying stuff like “this is the last velvet revolver show” etc. I saw velvet revolver live three times (first uk tour at Birmingham NIA, download festival and Birmingham academy) and I saw stone temple pilots reunion at download 2010. One thing I can say is that even though Scott Weiland was most likely under the influence his voice and showmanship was always top tier. He was highly entertaining and one hell of a frontman.
You know, while all of them are still alive, I hope Matt Sorum calls Axl, Slash, and Duff (in that order) and make a peace. Sammy Hagar called Eddie before this year happened. They even had a kitchen sink tour sorted. I don't think Sammy would have felt good about himself if he didn't contact Eddie. A grudge is the last thing you wanna take to the grave.
@@Croot_Music Pretty much and especially if you consider the timing that would have been asking Mike in 2002 when he was at the height of his post FNM experimental phase. I just remember at the time Mike wouldn't even entertain doing a FNM reunion back then like it was beneath him let alone getting together with exGNR members. Mike has mellowed out a lot later on but I would have loved to hear Mike's laughter when hearing that offer in '02
Actually just found an interview with Mike talking about it back in 2003. Yep it's exactly how i would picture Mike thinking about it. Everything from laughing at the idea of the Velvet Revolver to joking about Weiland oding from cocaine Tell me about being approached by ‘The Project’? Mike Patton: “Sorry? The new band Slash and the other ex-Guns’N’Roses guys are putting together. Mike Patton: “Did you just call it ‘The Project’? That’s what they are calling it. Mike Patton: “HAHAHAHA. That’s hilarious. It sounds much better than I’m sure it is. Er, well, I wasn’t really approached. I just got a phonecall from an ex-manager asking if I would be interested. Well, I wasn’t and that was about it. Not very exciting. Why weren’t you interested? Mike Patton: “Why do you think? You know. I think everyone else knows too, except them. Which is the funny part. I hear they are now doing stuff with Scott Weiland. Mike Patton: “I thought he was dead. No, he’s alive. He’s just been arrested for cocaine possession again. Mike Patton: “OK. Well this band will kill him off and do the world a favour. bbs.bunglefever.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=49178
I saw Velvet Revolver at House Of Blues in Myrtle Beach and they slayed the place. Best show I've seen there along with STP. Weiland knew how to work a crowd into a frenzy. And with Slash and Duff beside him, for a brief time, they were one of the greats.
That's exactly why I don't write music anymore. I honestly don't think anyone deserves to listen to what I can come up with because money and politics would ruin it anyways. It's not worth it in my eyes to put effort into art that will end up in that terrible system. Besides, I don't think anyone wants to listen to lyrics that don't have anything to do with making money, talking about the opposite sex or other selfish/toxic behaviors
@@shadowpersonoftheunknown6245 damn that sucks to hear. I'd love to listen to some tunes you've made but, I don't blame you for not wanting to continue. Being a musician is probably my biggest dream but I worry of the same things you mentioned.
I saw Velvet Revolver live in Washington in early September of 2007 with Alice in Chains opening up for them, that was a fantastic show, Alice in Chains was great and Scott was well on point and was singing perfectly. I knew he had to have been on drugs at that very moment. It was an odd feeling enjoying the music after that, bittersweet.
I remember seeing them in 2004 and 2005 and it was an amazing show. Saw them again at a KROQ fest on the tour to support Libertad and Scott broke his foot onstage and did the rest of it sitting on a barstool. You could tell the end was near with that group. I'm just thankful I got to see him 5x with STP when they reunited and he was great every time. RIP - wish I could see him perform again.
I remember seeing them live in Manchester on their uk/euro tour of the first album. They were 2hrs late coming on stage, no doubt down to scott, but they were incredible once they did come on
I was really excited about Velvet Revolver when they formed. I knew they were likely fucked if they were going to rely on Scott Weiland. But, people change as they grow older, so I was hoping it was going to work out. No, it did not.
That dangerous element was THE key element in every great rock n roll band... The beauty of the tragedy. The conflict. Fallen heroes. Rise and fall of the demigods and their final rise to eternity as legends. That's what we love and that's what we condemn.
The VR era was honestly the last time Weiland was any good, and even then, his time in VR was not nearly as good as the work he did with STP in the 90s, even though Contraband was indeed a solid album. By the time Libertad came out, Weiland’s on-stage persona had become weird and honestly a little creepy. And he didn’t sound nearly as good live as he did in studio. His drug use really turned him into a shell of his former self.
As an ex heroin addict I know first hand how much that drug kills your creativity and ambition, I'm a musician as well and I didn't give two fucks about music when I was using, it's all about the next high! I'm never going back to that life! RIP Scott
@@WhyTheHorseface the creativity existed in all those people long before drugs, anyone who claims the drugs made them more creative is a junkie in denial!
@@kimbaldo3292 amen. Charlie Parker even eventually told a peer in the 50’s that it didn’t help. Those people like Kim said were insanely created and felt they needed the drugs for creativity when it destroyed any creativity they actually naturally had.
Wow Scott got alot of grace and many 2nd chances due to his high status. So sad he couldn't overcome his addiction and move on with a promising career with a new band.
I went to see them in march 2008 here in the UK. they didn't come out for over 45 mins as they were falling out backstage. when they did come out on stage they spent the whole gig ignoring each other. but it made for an electric gig though. Its a pity you can't put pictures up here as I have some good pics from the gig
Great video bro! I saw velvet sometime in 2004 in Cologne, Germany. It was the probably the loudest concert I’ve ever been to. Later on I saw Weiland again in Calgary in 2012 with STP. I consider myself very fortunate to have seen these two iconic bands! RIP Scott
Weiland was great in STP, and great in Velvet Revolver. If he could've kept himself straight, there is no doubt he'd gone down in history as one of the best ever. But then, if Guns and Roses hadn't lost their way, they'd be the Rolling Stones of our Generation. Drugs and drink and Axel's ego. The Appetite for Destruction album, is something I played over and over.
Wow, I really wish Izzy and Duff had the vocal duties and kept on creating amazing songs. Scott was pretty cool, but a quartet would have been very nostalgic and cool.
I excitedly bought Contraband and listened to it for the first time while driving with a friend. When we were finished listening, he commented “it’s OK, it just doesn’t sound like they really found ‘their sound’ yet.” When Libertad came out, we listened to it together. His comment: “It sounds like music that was only 90% finished.” I hate to say it, because I liked all the musicians involved, but my friend was right. VR wasn’t really inspired music... it was more like a cash-in by some very talented musicians who just happened to connect for a couple years for a payday in their own journeys elsewhere.
If Weiland was going between rehab and the music studio, then he wasn't taking rehab seriously at all and I can't believe a rehab facility would allow that. Endless money and influence can be the worst enemy an addict can have.
It's crazy how many of the rock and metal musicians of the 90s are no longer with us. Many of the faces of grunge either died at the height of their careers, like Kurt, or died later like Scott and Chris. Pantera lost Dimebag and Vinnie. Type O Negative lost Peter Steele. I guess the 90s and 2000s were a darker time for musicians. Things seem to be a bit better now, with increased awareness of mental health and addiction.
@Christopher Bingham look at the song lyrics and titles. Everything was "boo hoo, poor me, my life sucks, I'm sad." What a miserable music decade. Meanwhile, "ugly" was now "in": These people made the hippies look like personal hygiene experts. You had all the girls walking around in flannel shirts and combat boots (thaaaaat's attractive). That clown Marilyn Manson. The 80's was the party and the 90's was the hangover from hell.
@Christopher Bingham Just an accident of fate, really. Plenty of musicians did drugs (regrettably) in both decades. Unfortunately, the majority of the fatalities came from the 90's. Musically speaking, I thought the 90's were tremendous. I've always felt they had the 80's beat hands down, at least if you're talking about rock as a music, and not the pop that passed for "rock" in the 80's. It's a pity that so much talent ended up leaving so soon. You hear so many people talk about not doing drugs - it makes you wonder when everyone's going to learn.
I saw them live in Mississippi and someone OD’d before the show in the mosh pit area. They played a good show though, slash was awesome and they played STP and G&R songs
I first heard of Slash because he played on some of MJ's records. It's hard to believe that of all the singers he's worked with, MJ falls more in the normal/professional category compared to SOOOOOME people.
Scott was a great songwriter. His lyrics more obtuse darker and psychodelick than his grunge peers. All the great ones have a lot of heart, then they die and leave us scratching our heads.
I was at the Glasgow gig when Scott announced he was done. Shocking stuff, but WHAT A FUCKING NIGHT! He was on fire. I felt a bit sad for Matt at the end of the video. He's such a good drummer and I want to hear him do more.
Here’s a story on the time Axl nearly beat up slash on stage th-cam.com/video/Hb98ZpYRzOk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=gxbUQXkJ9brn4y1n
Looking forward to those, have you done, or do you have any plans to do one on Slash going solo and getting together with Myles and the Conspirators?
@@moreblack I did talk about slashs first solo album a few weeks ago but I’m sure I’ll cover slash and the conspirators at some pointn
@@rnrtruestories Thanks for the heads up, I'll look for that one.
I would love it if you did an in depth story on the reason why Richie Sambora left Bon Jovi. I’m a massive Richie fan and I feel we don’t have the true reason why he left. Cheers.
I’m really looking forward to it!!!! I love your videos!!!! Happy holidays!!!!
Seems like a small oversight not to have mentioned that Scott Weiland is in fact dead and that might be a major factor in them not being able to reunite.
SAD TOO..GENIUS HE WAS HEROIN WAS HIS BANE!😪
10/10
An again Scott fell under sadly
@Johnny Dong proof of what? That he died? Wth are you talking about?
I doubt they would've reunited long term. Slash made it pretty clear he didn't want to work with weiland pretty clear. They mightve done one offs
So they hired a singer known for frequent drug relapses and he went on to relapse frequently? Wow, of all the possible outcomes.
One that is half the size he was in the 90s. Just looking at him you knew what was up! I saw them live though and my God, high frontmen are the best frontmen
Hahahahahahaha well said.
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Well, that's Rock n Roll ... but they couldn't have gotten a better lead singer ... Scott
@Sand Hanitizer yeah, I agree. The Stones were their absolute Best while Keith was using dope -> sticky fingers & exile on mainstreet .... absolutely fabulous! I know, sorry - different band.
When you hear the back story on these bands it is a miracle that they can record a cohesive album and complete a tour.
Bunch of nasty old junkies
The worst thing that can happen to a drug addict is fame and money 🤷
Velvet Revolver's first album Contraband was a damn fine effort that holds up well today, but I knew from the beginning that there was no way the supergroup would last.
I see what you did there. The band "Fell To Pieces".
@Christopher Bingham so it takes one to point it out then?
@Christopher Bingham but what about pointing out that it didn't need to be pointed out then? What level of genius does that take?
I see, as well.
Pun intended
Captain obvious just called... lol
I saw them live a few shows before they split up in England in Brighton. I remember Duff looking miserable on stage and Scott didn’t interact or even look at the other band members once. He also didn’t interact with the crowed , he basically sung songs one after another and left the stage. I remember duff looked like he didn’t want to be there.
Probably because when they went to Birmingham Scott stood with one foot on the stage and the other on the barrier leant over the crowd and someone yanked his chain round his neck. I don't think they got it but it shook him. Slash had a good old chuckle to himself while watching it unfold much to my amusement as most of the crowd had heard what happened around 3/4 nights earlier in Glasgow and gave a huge cheer as he struggled to keep his balance. I think after that he knew pretty much all their audience were against him which was a shame for the fans after that because that may have been the last performance he did actually put some energy into
I was at the Glasgow gig. I remember they were playing then Scott just announced "this is the last time you will ever see Velvet Revolver". I just stood there thinking did I just hear that? Duff clearly thought the same as he just started looking at Slash and Dave like wtf!
The one time I saw STP shortly after this Scott behaved exactly the same was definitely there for the money and not the music or fans it was sadly obvious.
The one and only time I got to see STP live was at Kattfest 08. Crowd went apeshit when they got on stage, Weiland was feeding off the crowd and gave an incredible performance. A fan also rushed the stage and Scott told them to let him go, the guy got down on his knees and was crying about how big a fan he was, they then stood him up, the band gathered around him and told the audience this is what it's all about.
That’s interesting, I’d like to mention that I saw them perform once in New York during their Contraband tour. It was a great show, Weiland had his megaphone and actually walked up and down the bleachers including up to the 300s section as he was singing a song. I don’t even recall there being security and it just seemed like a spur of the moment type of thing. So I’d just like to add that if he stopped putting on great shows, he wasn’t ALWAYS like that.
It’s very sad how much Scott’s addiction took him over. He’ll always be one of my favorites though 💕
All your idols are degenerates
That's addiction and it knows no bounds and can (and does) affect those from Every walk of life!.. It's sad Scott was never able to sober up or really get much clean time and even when he claimed to be clean, he really only meant he was clean from "heroin" and in fact did break his addiction to dope, but replaced it with the other substances that ultimately killed him and this is more common than most realize.. Many addicts jump from one substance to another and often justify this behavior!. Sadly, no amount of help can help someone that doesn't want to be helped and unfortunately (statistically) most addicts Never achieve long-term sobriety and or end up dying (in some manner) due to their addiction!.
It's amazing to me that any band can stay together. Especially with the egos and the drugs.
It's too bad about Weiland. He was such a good singer.
Unfortunately he had LSD lead singers disease heroin and rock and roll don't go together
Umm he was moderately ok. Had a vocal range of about a 1/2 an octave, and didn't really have more than one tone, he sang in. .. Slash picked him to assure he (Slash) would be the star of the band.
he was the beginning of all those singers that copped layne staley and jerry cantrells vocals...weiland at least didnt suck and stp sound can stand on its own but goddamn if weiland didn’t open the door for so many shitty fucking bands with cheezier and cheezier aic rip-off vocals...creed anyone
@@jahread3322 I still like the first STP cd ... 👍
He was a great vocalist and songwriter. He wrote and co-wrote some of rocks greatest songs ever. Too bad the drugs and alcohol took him away.
I love your respect for Rock Journalism providing alternate perspectives in the same story thank you
thanks i try to keep it balanced.
Yes
Fall to Pieces is a bloody masterpiece
that solo i believe is slash's finest
Great song, with a great video and a powerful message!. VR was truly a great band and Scott a tremendous talent that sadly could never get a handle on his demons!..
Absolutely.
good solid song...masterpiece ? that's a matter of opinion.
HiCheck out the late night TV appearance of that song.
I think it was Leno..EPIC
It would've been neat if Izzys idea of a quartet came to fruition
Lmao!
"I hated Axl because he was controlling and his ego got in the way...I don't like this singer...Matt fire him..."
Matt should've fired rose
A little awkward when you say that the band is dead without acknowledging the fact that Weiland himself is, well, dead
I know right!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Well in fairness he was fired from the band
Yeah Weiland fell to pieces :(
@Your Neighbor That's your opinion. Plenty of people would disagree. Was the opening band the band that was full of chicks? If so I have to say they were pretty kick ass from what I remember
They were a great fucking band, and one of my favorites. Too bad they didn't last long, but at least they leave behind some great music.
Considering the problems they all had, this ending was pretty much inevitable.
Absolutely! I'd be surprised if they didn't break up!
Great video. I was 18 in 1988. I started with Guns and Roses. Guns was incredible. When Stone Temple came out, I loved them. I liked Grunge. I didn't see STP as full grunge like Nirvana. Anyway, these are the guys I listened too thru out my life. There are like my extended family.
I too was 18 in 1988 and GNR will always be my favorite band. Loved Velvet Revolver as well.
I was at the Glasgow gig when Scott decided, unbeknownst to his band mates, that this was going to be their last gig. They all looked on in amazement. They went off stage for about 20 minutes, then came back on to finish the gig. It was an interesting night.
Glad I saw them live in 2005. What a show with atmosphere and so many encores. The energy of the entire band was mind blowing
Still enjoy their music regularly. Cool time for rock n roll and their interpretation had great energy
VR was one of the best gigs I’ve been too, was absolutely electric. Scott was so good on stage.
it’s incredible we even got two Albums from this “Super Group” I totally forgot they put out a second album (that debut is so good for what it is) But, at the same time you can just tell this band wasn’t going to last very long!
Libertad is great
@@mr.smithgnrsmith7808 Thx I'll have to get my hands on it (either i forgot there was a follow up Velvet Revolver album or something don't remember much hype behind the second album......
Their second album was actually very good. I just think by 2007 (year of its release) the industry wasn't interested in them and it got little to no promoting. The industry by that time was only interested in either emo bands, Coldplay or anyone trying to be like Coldplay.
@@ict113090 Libertad >Contraband
This band was amazing at the time, it was probably the most exciting thing in rock n roll when they came out with that headbanging sound. Good times
I completely agree with you. Before the first Velvet Revolver album came out, I remember reading about how Slash, Duff, and Matt Sorum were getting together to create a new band with the Scott Weiland of Stone Temple Pilots. I was so excited because at the time, this was basically a modern take on Guns N Roses. Needless to say I was a huge GNR fan and like so many other people, I had grown tired of Axel Roses antics and tired of waiting for his version of a new Guns N Roses album to come out. Personally, I think Velvet Revolver’s first album is more GNR than anything Axel has done since Guns broke up back in the early 90s. It’s a shame they only made two albums while Scott Weiland was still alive. I would’ve loved to hear some new music by Velvet Revolver but it just wasn’t meant to be. At least we have two records along with some great live performances. I still listen to Velvet on a semi regular basis and I’ll always remember how cool they were.
Sad when people of talent go down the dark road of substance abuse. It never fails to take them out and cut short their time of being a source of creativity.
The last gig VR did in London was at Brixton academy where I worked. I walked Scott and Slash to their cars. They were both very nice to me and Scott laughed at a joke I made when we were walking together. RIP Scott. Long live Slash!
If you really made him laugh thank you, he went through hell. Never met him but I got love for the man. Hope his family is well.
@@ixa-3140 A tortured soul but very talented! x
I love how you totally skipped the fact that Wieland died whilst on tour with his band not long after.. that is probably the biggest reason for VR not getting back together...
Matt:cocaine
Duff: xanax and wine
Slash:ego and his defibrillator
Scott: professional squash player on heroin lol
And I guess kushner gets high on warm Pepsi?? Lol
@@ucfkid67 warm Pepsi isn't that bad
@@Underland76 yep, I like it.
I saw Velvet Revolver at a secret night club just before their first record came out... EASILY ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS IVE EVER BEEN TOO!
I had the pleasure of seeing VR in Dallas on the Libertad tour in ‘07 or ‘08. No opener. The guys just came out and crushed for 2 and a half hours. They played almost every song from Contraband and Libertad, 6-7 Guns ‘N Roses songs, 6-7 STP songs, and a couple Pink Floyd covers. One of the best concert experiences I ever had. I’m grateful to have been there for that. I’ll remember it forever.
❤ wish I could have seen that. You're definitely lucky
@@celestenelson6375 I was SO good.
Saw Velvet Revolver live in Sydney. I was so stoked as a Guns N Roses and Stone Temple Pilots fan. It was a great gig. They even did 2 Guns covers
Mr Brownstone and It's So Easy. It was a perfect blend of the 2 bands. I was in College and it was one of my first big Concert and absolutely loved it. Slash even did a solo piece and I was like 5 metres away.
Contraband is a damn good album
Awesome piece - thank you for taking the time to put it out.
I absolutely loved Weiland and it was sad to see his demise to heroin. Every band he was in was plagued with the addiction.
😢
I Loved Scott as well. He was such an amazing, transformational artist. So sad. 😢
I like both Contraband and Libertad.. Great rocknroll... RIP Scott. Now if only GnR would make some new music... wtf!
1991 was last time we got a song written by axl and slash together . Fuck 1991
Would be nice to see what they could conjure up. Though for the gnr sound and feel i think you do need at least Izzy also. Preferrably Steven as well. That not gonna happen
As long as it's not the bombastic shit that's on Chinese Democracy
According to interviews with Slash from the beginning of the year they are writing new music with Axl & Duff. It’s gonna come, be patient.
@@dereklong3977 i'm sure they are writing music all the time, thats what they do... the big issue seems to actually release it..
God, those were two great albums; I really miss Weiland.
I remember there being a bunch of rumors that Corey Taylor was going to join the band after Scott left... Not a clue if any of it was true but it would have been awesome.
Yup they even recorded material but slash said it was too heavy
Taylor is the most overrated front man in the history of rock and that is quite an acomplishment
@@rnrtruestories ah okay. Never knew why it didn’t work out. Thanks bud.
@Benjamin S that’s cool man but you’re right, not a lot of people are gonna side with your view
Rock N' Roll True Stories DAMN IT SLASH that would have been amazing
I saw velvet revolver on that final tour in 2008 at the Birmingham academy, UK. Slash and Scott got into it on stage and slash stormed off for a few minutes before returning back to the stage and carrying on with the show. Scott kept saying stuff like “this is the last velvet revolver show” etc. I saw velvet revolver live three times (first uk tour at Birmingham NIA, download festival and Birmingham academy) and I saw stone temple pilots reunion at download 2010. One thing I can say is that even though Scott Weiland was most likely under the influence his voice and showmanship was always top tier. He was highly entertaining and one hell of a frontman.
Lmao at the rhyming at 5:55 "he was off the wagan, in addition to duff mccagan"
I love scott and velvet revolver so much.... Scott's son sounds so much like him it would be awesome to see him see a few of Scott's songs
You know, while all of them are still alive, I hope Matt Sorum calls Axl, Slash, and Duff (in that order) and make a peace. Sammy Hagar called Eddie before this year happened. They even had a kitchen sink tour sorted. I don't think Sammy would have felt good about himself if he didn't contact Eddie. A grudge is the last thing you wanna take to the grave.
It would be grate to get matt back as a drummer
One of the greatest names for a band ever. And one of the greatest debut albums.
It's cool to hear Axl singing VR tunes with GnR
Mike Patton was asked to try out and he was like "fuck that"
No Faith in the band, I guess...
If you’ve listened to anything Mike Patton has done outside of faith no more this shouldn’t surprise anyone
@@Croot_Music Pretty much and especially if you consider the timing that would have been asking Mike in 2002 when he was at the height of his post FNM experimental phase. I just remember at the time Mike wouldn't even entertain doing a FNM reunion back then like it was beneath him let alone getting together with exGNR members. Mike has mellowed out a lot later on but I would have loved to hear Mike's laughter when hearing that offer in '02
Actually just found an interview with Mike talking about it back in 2003. Yep it's exactly how i would picture Mike thinking about it. Everything from laughing at the idea of the Velvet Revolver to joking about Weiland oding from cocaine
Tell me about being approached by ‘The Project’?
Mike Patton: “Sorry?
The new band Slash and the other ex-Guns’N’Roses guys are putting together.
Mike Patton: “Did you just call it ‘The Project’?
That’s what they are calling it.
Mike Patton: “HAHAHAHA. That’s hilarious. It sounds much better than I’m sure it is. Er, well, I wasn’t really approached. I just got a phonecall from an ex-manager asking if I would be interested. Well, I wasn’t and that was about it. Not very exciting.
Why weren’t you interested?
Mike Patton: “Why do you think? You know. I think everyone else knows too, except them. Which is the funny part.
I hear they are now doing stuff with Scott Weiland.
Mike Patton: “I thought he was dead.
No, he’s alive. He’s just been arrested for cocaine possession again.
Mike Patton: “OK. Well this band will kill him off and do the world a favour.
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That’s because he’s too good to be in Velvet Revolver.
I saw Velvet Revolver at House Of Blues in Myrtle Beach and they slayed the place. Best show I've seen there along with STP. Weiland knew how to work a crowd into a frenzy. And with Slash and Duff beside him, for a brief time, they were one of the greats.
no matter what happened, Scott Weiland will always be one of my favorite frontmen
God the politics and fighting that goes on in bands is sad.
Its people man, people in general. Look at 2020. Lol
@@TheRumbles13 yeah they are living the dream and can't get along
They fight over money 💰
That's exactly why I don't write music anymore. I honestly don't think anyone deserves to listen to what I can come up with because money and politics would ruin it anyways. It's not worth it in my eyes to put effort into art that will end up in that terrible system. Besides, I don't think anyone wants to listen to lyrics that don't have anything to do with making money, talking about the opposite sex or other selfish/toxic behaviors
@@shadowpersonoftheunknown6245 damn that sucks to hear. I'd love to listen to some tunes you've made but, I don't blame you for not wanting to continue. Being a musician is probably my biggest dream but I worry of the same things you mentioned.
I saw Velvet Revolver live in Washington in early September of 2007 with Alice in Chains opening up for them, that was a fantastic show, Alice in Chains was great and Scott was well on point and was singing perfectly. I knew he had to have been on drugs at that very moment. It was an odd feeling enjoying the music after that, bittersweet.
I remember seeing them in 2004 and 2005 and it was an amazing show. Saw them again at a KROQ fest on the tour to support Libertad and Scott broke his foot onstage and did the rest of it sitting on a barstool. You could tell the end was near with that group. I'm just thankful I got to see him 5x with STP when they reunited and he was great every time. RIP - wish I could see him perform again.
I remember seeing them live in Manchester on their uk/euro tour of the first album. They were 2hrs late coming on stage, no doubt down to scott, but they were incredible once they did come on
I was really excited about Velvet Revolver when they formed. I knew they were likely fucked if they were going to rely on Scott Weiland. But, people change as they grow older, so I was hoping it was going to work out. No, it did not.
That dangerous element was THE key element in every great rock n roll band...
The beauty of the tragedy. The conflict. Fallen heroes.
Rise and fall of the demigods and their final rise to eternity as legends.
That's what we love and that's what we condemn.
Well said. Very well said
Woah that was deep, but accurate and great dude!
Hell yeah!! I'm stealing this for poetry class.
Durrrrr
And then there was the little incident of overdose and death.
One of the most talented bands a true supergroup of egos and drug addiction
Did you say he broke sobriety after his dog’s death?!
That's what I heard as well
@@jeffjunge7663 Valid reason, if there ever was one.
I agree 100% It's heartbreaking to lose a good pet.
I heard that too!! Made me smirk a little.
Makes sense bc.. "My dog's happiness is genuine when I come home and he doesn't care what anyone else thinks of me"
The VR era was honestly the last time Weiland was any good, and even then, his time in VR was not nearly as good as the work he did with STP in the 90s, even though Contraband was indeed a solid album. By the time Libertad came out, Weiland’s on-stage persona had become weird and honestly a little creepy. And he didn’t sound nearly as good live as he did in studio. His drug use really turned him into a shell of his former self.
The 2010 STP record was great. That reunion started strong.
As an ex heroin addict I know first hand how much that drug kills your creativity and ambition, I'm a musician as well and I didn't give two fucks about music when I was using, it's all about the next high! I'm never going back to that life! RIP Scott
@@kimbaldo3292 your story is contradicted by hundreds of legendary musicians who were heroin addicts going back nearly 100 years.
@@WhyTheHorseface the creativity existed in all those people long before drugs, anyone who claims the drugs made them more creative is a junkie in denial!
@@kimbaldo3292 amen. Charlie Parker even eventually told a peer in the 50’s that it didn’t help. Those people like Kim said were insanely created and felt they needed the drugs for creativity when it destroyed any creativity they actually naturally had.
The title of this video is my favorite "I see what you did there" occurrence this year
Really wish Izzy would get back in the mix
Slither was my all time favorite song
As much of a powerhouse as this group was. It wasn't much without Weiland. This band was the definition of "chemistry."
lol when the wives start getting involved in the business affairs you're in desperate trouble. It's a minor miracle they produced anything.
That's a stupid game that business people don't play.
I just realized after many years that I've never seen Slash's eyes.
was lucky enough to see them in 2004...great show, did the best STP and GnR songs, plus Aerosmith's No More No More
Scott’s book discusses his time with VR, pretty cool perspective.
Wow Scott got alot of grace and many 2nd chances due to his high status. So sad he couldn't overcome his addiction and move on with a promising career with a new band.
RIP 🙏
That's addiction for you and the demons that most addicts struggle with
I had no idea that Weiland wasnt the full time lyricist on Contraband. That explains a great deal.
Velvet Revolver extended scott life by a few years.
I hate these stories where everyone ends up not being friends anymore it’s sad because we want nothing but the best for our Rock and metal family.🤘
I wish the 2nd album was as good as the first. Kinda sad
Yeah I liked the last fight and a few other tracks but I liked contraband a lot better
Agreed. The lyrics on the 2nd album were, frankly, quite bland and not very deep. The album was carried by decent melodies and Slash’s guitar work
About 60% filler, just like GnR
Hmm...I really thought that Libertad was better.
But it wasn’t. It happens.
I went to see them in march 2008 here in the UK. they didn't come out for over 45 mins as they were falling out backstage. when they did come out on stage they spent the whole gig ignoring each other. but it made for an electric gig though. Its a pity you can't put pictures up here as I have some good pics from the gig
I forgot about set me free, great tune!
They made some damn good music for a short time
Scott Weiland was the last real rockstar
Couldn't up vote this more.
Great video bro! I saw velvet sometime in 2004 in Cologne, Germany. It was the probably the loudest concert I’ve ever been to. Later on I saw Weiland again in Calgary in 2012 with STP. I consider myself very fortunate to have seen these two iconic bands! RIP Scott
Last summer you said you were working on a Talk Show video. I hope it comes soon!
And army of anyone
I bought and listened to that first album over and over. They were one of the last true rock bands.
Weiland was great in STP, and great in Velvet Revolver.
If he could've kept himself straight, there is no doubt he'd gone down in history as one of the best ever.
But then, if Guns and Roses hadn't lost their way, they'd be the Rolling Stones of our Generation.
Drugs and drink and Axel's ego.
The Appetite for Destruction album, is something I played over and over.
Just to think that they could be filling stadiums (gnr) just like MetallicA, U2, The Rolling Stones and other great bands still did not so long ago...
I saw STP in 97 before Scott's issues really took hold. They blew the roof off and could have been as big as Zeppelin. RIP Scott.
Great band and album. Fall to pieces is a classic song
Underrated channel. Deserves more subs
Wow, I really wish Izzy and Duff had the vocal duties and kept on creating amazing songs. Scott was pretty cool, but a quartet would have been very nostalgic and cool.
Izzy’s idea of a van is fantastic. My man!
True Izzy
Lesson, if you're gonna do any drug, just stick to sugar.
Diabetes is more managable 👍🏾
In some cases, Diabetes will kill you first.
That’s absolutely shit advice
Lmao
Nah..strong coffee.
Wellllllll...
I have a feeling that Scott disappointed every person he ever met.
"I Fall to Pieces " is the best Rock Ballad of the Aughts. Now,that Scott Weiland's dead, I get uncomfortable wachting the song's music video.
Right? Prophetic.
Lame, lazy song. Repeats the same lyrics too much
@@7ate992 It's so heartbreaking because it is about addiction and Weiland lost his 20 year battle with it 5 years ago.
Damn I love Velvet Revolver R.I.P. Scott it's too bad they didn't release more music after Libertad
I excitedly bought Contraband and listened to it for the first time while driving with a friend. When we were finished listening, he commented “it’s OK, it just doesn’t sound like they really found ‘their sound’ yet.” When Libertad came out, we listened to it together. His comment: “It sounds like music that was only 90% finished.”
I hate to say it, because I liked all the musicians involved, but my friend was right. VR wasn’t really inspired music... it was more like a cash-in by some very talented musicians who just happened to connect for a couple years for a payday in their own journeys elsewhere.
Poor Scott... tragic but a lovable guy. Not reprobate like all the others you really don't miss or feel heartbroken about.....
If Weiland was going between rehab and the music studio, then he wasn't taking rehab seriously at all and I can't believe a rehab facility would allow that. Endless money and influence can be the worst enemy an addict can have.
That's 💯 why none of them can stay clean. Their fame is the enemy
They were all effed up and burnt out, not surprising it didn't last. Sad.😥 I still listen to them regularly
It's crazy how many of the rock and metal musicians of the 90s are no longer with us.
Many of the faces of grunge either died at the height of their careers, like Kurt, or died later like Scott and Chris.
Pantera lost Dimebag and Vinnie.
Type O Negative lost Peter Steele.
I guess the 90s and 2000s were a darker time for musicians. Things seem to be a bit better now, with increased awareness of mental health and addiction.
@Christopher Bingham look at the song lyrics and titles. Everything was "boo hoo, poor me, my life sucks, I'm sad." What a miserable music decade.
Meanwhile, "ugly" was now "in": These people made the hippies look like personal hygiene experts. You had all the girls walking around in flannel shirts and combat boots (thaaaaat's attractive). That clown Marilyn Manson.
The 80's was the party and the 90's was the hangover from hell.
@Christopher Bingham Just an accident of fate, really. Plenty of musicians did drugs (regrettably) in both decades. Unfortunately, the majority of the fatalities came from the 90's. Musically speaking, I thought the 90's were tremendous. I've always felt they had the 80's beat hands down, at least if you're talking about rock as a music, and not the pop that passed for "rock" in the 80's. It's a pity that so much talent ended up leaving so soon. You hear so many people talk about not doing drugs - it makes you wonder when everyone's going to learn.
Funny how artists of the 70'/ 80's died from joy and the artists of the 90's died from depression.
@@johnbeckwith1361 Exactly my point
@@johnbeckwith1361 Drugs never bring joy, only a false sense of it.
I saw them live in Mississippi and someone OD’d before the show in the mosh pit area. They played a good show though, slash was awesome and they played STP and G&R songs
I first heard of Slash because he played on some of MJ's records. It's hard to believe that of all the singers he's worked with, MJ falls more in the normal/professional category compared to SOOOOOME people.
Drugs always fuk up everthing 😔
Matt Soren always looked like a 40 yo trying to look 20..
Video production is great, Sydd.
Scott was a great songwriter. His lyrics more obtuse darker and psychodelick than his grunge peers. All the great ones have a lot of heart, then they die and leave us scratching our heads.
Truth. He was powerful and beautiful.. he was on the top with only a few other great ones. So sad.
I purchased 'Libertad' special edition over Machine Heads 'The Blackening' special edition. Boy, what a colossal mistake that was.
I was at the Glasgow gig when Scott announced he was done. Shocking stuff, but WHAT A FUCKING NIGHT! He was on fire. I felt a bit sad for Matt at the end of the video. He's such a good drummer and I want to hear him do more.
I miss Scott Weiland. Great singer!
@@kazombie9784 True.
Your right Denise they kick ass
Boy, ole "Slash" (Saul) is such a class act. Wearing the same hat and sunglasses for 38 years.
Scott was so talented he should’ve had two bands in rock hall of fame but his drug addiction stopped that