Stone Temple Pilots: The Sad History of the Band & Scott Weiland
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- The sad history of Stone Temple Pilots & singer Scott Weiland
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It was in the spring of 1992 STP would relocate to the san fernando valley with producer Brendan o’ brien who had already worked with the black crowes, chili peppers and pearl jam. Drummer Eric Kretz would recall the energy the band brought to the recording of their debut record telling Songfacts
There was enthusiasm and excitement and everyone was in the room and participating creatively, artistically,"It's the most fun time to be in a band when everyone has the same ideas and everyone has the same goals. Core would be recorded in just three weeks.
Once the band was about to submit the album to their label, they soon discovered an old Chicago blues musician already had the name mighty joe young. The musician had been putting out albums since the 70’s on a local indie label, went on hiatus and decided to come back. So the band, had to come up with a new name.. It would be a car lubricant called STP Oil Treatment that inspired Mighty Joe Young’s new name. Weiland had a fascination with it since he was a kid.. Scott suggested the band come up with a new name using the letters STP. One early name they had was Shirley Temple’s Private (they had a more lude term for the letter P than what I’m saying, but i’ll leave it to your imagineation). They eventually went with Stone Temple Pilots.
Core would be released in September of 1992, during the peak of the grunge movement. The album’s first single Sex Type Thing, was a massive hit on MTV, first landing on the network’s buzz bin program, which featured up and coming bands and songs. It soon was played amongst groups like Alice in Chains, Pearl Jam, and Nirvana. The song, while embraced by MTV, got a good amount of attention on alternative radio peaking at number 23, but modern rock radio didn’t really embrace it. Dean would admit the riff for sex type thing was inspired by the Led Zeppelin tune in the light. The song garnered a lot of controversy, While the band were adamant in the press that they were pro-women, the media took one look at the lyrics and made up their own minds. If you read any press interview with the band during the promotion for Core, Sex Type THing’s meaning comes up again and again. For Scott, the irony of the song was lost on everyone. Here’s the frontman explaining to mtv what the lyrics were about.
It would be the album’s second single, Plush that catapulted Stone Temple Pilots into the stratosphere. Plush topped the mainstream rock chart and alo appeared on the pop charts peaking at number 18. Any of you guys remember the Grand Theft Auto San Andreas radio station radio X? The song was written by Robert in 1989 with him telling Rolling Stone “And when I played it for Scott,”, “he didn’t like it. He said, ‘It sounds too much like Boston.'” Kind of funny, considering the song was often compared to sounding like a pearl jam song. Even at live shows, Scott jokingly introduced the song to audiences as being a song Pearl Jam wrote for them.
Plush’s popularity only increased when the band performed an acoustic version for MTV’s Headbangers Ball program. That performance almost never happened because of a feud between MTV and STP. I’ll talk a little later about that. Plush’s lyrics were loosely inspired by a story the members read about a young woman from San Diego who went missing and was later discovered to be have been murdered. Scott would also reveal on VH1’s story tellers that the song’s lyrics deal with a lost obsessive relationship.
One of my personal favourites off the album, would be the third single Wicked Garden, would peak at number 11 on the mainstream rock chart. And the album’s final single the melancholy tune Creep would peak at number 2 on the charts and would deal with alienation. I always remember the movie Black Hawk Down when Grimes finds out he is about to head out on the now infamous Oct 3rd raid. There were even a few songs including Dead and Bloated and Crackerman that were released as promotional singles, but they enver. However, b I still hear them on radio to this day and they are one of the band’s more popular son
Favourite STP album? Here’s the Velvet Revolver video I referenced th-cam.com/video/zcsrBlvKbBA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=M-UwAlEcwfhUWVCP and Talk Show story I did th-cam.com/video/cH-wuGNoNSs/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Gf_az6b4DNmJRYQf
Core
Cooooooore
Vatican gift shop
Core! ❤
Everyone gonna say Core. I love Purple though, it’s like Stone Temple Pilots “AIC Self Titled” era for me. especially the song Meatplow. Also any Velvet Revolver fans?
When Scott was sober and on his game, nobody could touch him as an electrifying frontman.
When was he ever sober? 😂
he was never sober unless he was in rehab
😂😂 Chester Bennington greatest voice in music history 💯. Way way better than Scott
@@theallamericannightmare4163nah
Actually I think he was a mix of Freddie mercury and David bowie, watch his "acting" onstage ,it's undeniable. Pretensious and overblown.
Weiland was born to be a frontman. One of the best ever. Complete natural.
best ever not in top 100 could not stand his voice
Always struck me as an unoriginal, raging douchebag. imao
LOLOLOL uh…. 🤔🙄🤣🤣
The Greatest ever!!! PERIOD!!!
I listened to STP, PJ, Nirvana and Smashing Pumpkins back in the day, and never once had the feeling that there are much similarities. All of them had their own universe
Exactly, grunge was never a genre
A commercial trick, a fashion, a movement, a concept (like Shock rock) and whatever but not a genre
STP was above Pearl Jam for me but Sounded too much alike.
yeah and the Universes they gave us were nice! don't forget Soundgarden
@@Faks.09genre, sub-genre. Semantics.
I liked even flow and Jeremy. But the radio killed pearl jam for me. Forever
Scott sat in with us one night in St. Louis while they were on the Megadeth tour. We played a lot of Cheap Trick songs and generally had a great time. He graciously invited us to the hospitality tent at the local ampitheatre the next time they came through, this time headlining. He was a quiet guy, super nice. We were all very saddened by his passing.
One of the better bands to come out of the early 90s. The musicianship and songwriting was great quality.
I will always love STP to this day. I miss Scott.
I don’t understand why they would get so much hate from the media and other bands. They have nothing but classics tracks that I still sing to this day.
Scott had a sound of his own so I don’t get how they could compare them to Pearl Jam or Alice In Chains.
Haters. When he said “bands felt they were an overnight success and didn’t work as hard as they did” it screamed HATERS!
What they were doing musically was a lot different than the other bands. Very Beatle-esque
Still remains…. One of the great love songs, the lyrics are poetry…..
Greatest love song that doesn’t use the word “love” for sure.
The lyrics to that song are incredibly deep.
STP was my favorite band as a kid before i discovered punk. Saw them in concert multiple times and they always put on a hell of a show
Core was the first CD I ever bought, been a huge fan ever since. They were the soundtrack to my life then as an awkward kid of the 90's. They were great live too, no pretentiousness, played what everyone wanted to hear. Great video!
i love when musicians wait until after the record is finished to go to rehab. Richard Patrick of Filter waited until after they finished Title of Record to go to rehab and that album is fuckin killer. RIP to Scott. super sad story. i've been clean from H. and all other hard drugs for 10 and a half years, myself
I still cry. Needless death. Rest in Power sweet darling man...... truly missed
STP is my favorite band from the 90's. It became obvious that Scott was not going to outrun his drug problem. I so wanted to see them live and got tickets for the October 10, 2000 show in St. Paul but could not attend as I went into labor with my third child 6 weeks early. I saw Velvet Revolver with Alice in Chains opening, an awesome show, but still regretted I missed STP. So when they reunited in 2008 and went on tour, announced a stop back in St. Paul, I took the day off of work to get tickets. It was a good show, but you could see the toll drugs had on Scott. I knew afterwards I would never see him at a STP show again. It is ironic he died in a tour bus outside the Mall of America in Bloomington, MN just miles away from St. Paul. I saw STP one more time with their new front man Jeff Gutt in 2018. The band was good as ever, but still miss Scott.
Thanks for this one! STP has so many fans.
You’re welcome! One of my favourite bands
Yet they usually fly under the radar, it’s strange
It's really painful since losing Scott. But the love is still there. Always will be.
always loved his voice and their music is still great even today
Great video as always. You always wonder what any band's next album would've sounded like, if all members were still alive. It's amazing how all their albums sounded different.
I saw STP in 2008 and it was the best concert ive been to. Scott Weiland gave an amazing performance and the sound the band was so clear and crisp. So grateful to have seen them even though i was in the throws myself at the time.
It only took me 3 times in rehab, becoming homeless and the death of my girlfriend to get me clean . 5 years now . But its a lot harder to get clean when you have endless buckets of cash !!! So IDK if I could have done it either if I was in Scott or Layne Stayleys position . As much as I wanted to . Its hard to hit rock bottom when you have no reason to struggle and its only a phone call a way . Heroin is a beast .
Good for you.
Facts bubba I’m proud of you. I’m still fighting the H myself I haven’t touched it in 3 years but I’m still on subs😢
@@BROKENWyTTRbbt6 i been on subs too . But check this out bro . I recently got the Sublocade injection once , and 5 months later still no withdrawals !!! I highly suggest you give it a try .
Kind of amazing the criticism they got for “sounding like every other band.” In reality, you know immediately you’re listening to STP for a multitude of reasons. They were as unique as any like band from the era with just as many like influences. I was lucky enough to see Scott with Velvet Revolver in 2007 for the Libertad tour. They essentially played both VR albums in full, 6-7 STP songs, 6-7 G n’ R songs, and a couple Pink Floyd covers. They played for like 2 and a half hours and it was one of my favorite concert experiences ever. RIP Scott Weiland.
I was a BIG BIG fan from the get go in early 1992… I never really considered them “grunge” they sorta had their own vibe. Epic band only regret never seeing them live.
Saw them when Purple came out. Think it was 95 or 96. They were fuckin unreal. I've seen pink Floyd in 94. STP best concert I've ever seen.
Same. I saw them in Austin back in 2011 and still sounded the same if not better.
Scott, on stage with his megaphone and dance moves was a thing of beauty. He was in his element.
Saw them New Years Eve 2009 at Club Nokia LA. Never will forget Scott’s fedora, pink plush feathers and megaphone. RIP
Nice deep dive.
STP is amazing.
How are there haters?
They are musician approved. 😂
Also I’m glad Scott liked Duran Duran they’re awesome.
Agreed never understood the hate for the band
I always hear they had hate. But being a teen in the 90s I never heard it at the time.
I never heard hate for STP. People knew better than trash them around me anyway.
Way back in August '94; friend of my brother's kept calling our house, looking for my brother; after HOURS of NOT being able to 'locate'; I was given the option to pay for the ticket (brother hadn't paid yet) for the STP show in Massachusetts (we lived in NH); EXCELLENT SHOW
One of my favorite bands growing up. My mom was a big fan so I got to listen to their cds in the basement or on car rides. Great memories!
Love STP one of my favorite of all time 😊.
I saw STP when Core came out. They opened for Megadeth and the entire show was fantastic. The only show I saw that topped it was Ozzy/Alice in Chains/Motorhead.
Big Empty is one of the best songs ever
STP is an outstanding motor old additive - I use it in all my vehicles.
Dykes 😊
Every great musician destroys themselves for the music. You love it and hate it at the same time. Every time I would hear a STP song, I would pray Scott would hang on just a little bit longer but I wasn’t surprised to hear of his death. He was absolutely tortured by his addiction. Had everything but still had nothing. Wherever you’re at Scott, I hope you’re in peace and happy. Thank you for the beautiful music❤️
Have a place in ❤for them. Maybe cuz theyre part of my younger daze in CA and i respect the power they brought. I love this bio!Plush and Interstate Love Song are as beautiful as any 90's music by Sinead, Dylan, REM Grant Lee Bflo, etc .
Great research and detail here. Thanks for this video!
Saw them play at tags in big flats ny, great show. Scott was clean because he sang, and sang damn well
This was very informative! Thank you for posting We will be coming out next year
I first saw STP back when they opened for Megadeth at Long Beach arena. I remember some Megadeth fans even gave them the finger. Some weren't even paying attention. And they didn't even turn off the lights for their show. But I liked their sound right away. And bought their cd the next day.
Oh and the Megadeth show was the best. That was peak 'rust in peace' Megadeth. And no cell phones back then. Everyone was just crushing eachother and enjoying the music. Those were the days.
You forgot Robert worked at Mesa. He was exposed to many great and different guitarists that worked there. Robert was the biggest creative force in the group but each had input.
Why do the captions have nothing to do with what you're saying???
I learned alot from this! One of the best bands ever!
Dude talked about Scott in detail for 30 mins, just to gloss by his being found dead, as if it weren’t vital to the story. It’s like someone told him he had to cut the video down by 10 mins, and he chose to delete the most poignant part of the whole vid. Kinda weird.
Those days as a teenager were my best. No cellphones.
One of the best things to come out of the 90 s STP
One of the best front men ever, in my opinion. Loved him in Velvet Revolver. Just so sad to hear everything that happened to him.
Absolutely LOVE STP
Paul 👋
Enjoyed every minute of this video. Amazing as always. 🎙️
You have great delivery
Yup
I very much enjoy your channel and the stories you cover. You are an excellent storyteller, and I always watch your videos until the end. Thank you for sharing your knowledge on these bands. Have a great day!😊
Thanks
Saw stp open for MD on the RIP tour it was epic
Shangri La Dee Da is one of the best albums I've ever heard. It doesn't get the recognition it deserves.
STP couldn't deserve their place in the world of rock n roll more. They were and are legit. Their first three albums are like a rock n roll trifecta of brilliance.
The physical deterioration of Weiland was pretty intense. Not as pronounced as Staley but quite shocking nevertheless. Look at the Core era shows and photos. The guy was actually pretty buff and a natural athlete. Less than a year into the heroin addiction he totally disintegrated.
pretty cool contribution, thanks for that 💪
I remember the day Scott died and I thought to myself “he was still alive?”
I saw Velvet Revolver at the 9:30 club and it was wild! Glad I got to see him perform, those were the days for live music
He was a fabulous front man Rip
Fav stp album for me , is this sleeper N o 4
Never thought they sounded anything like the other Grunge bands, although on first listen one might think Weiland had a similar voice to others at the time, shades of Vedder or Mark Lanegan if you heard only a short burst. With further listening, you'd learn he had a unique voice and superb ear for melodies. I always found the comparisons around STP absolutely maddening. Superb band, and Robert De Leo is still a GOD to me.
Anyone else notice that the closed captioning is way off from the audio?
LOVE STP!!! ♥️
They couldn't do on WRONG in music, thanks guys!!! ♥️
☘ Irish Honey Badger - Very Sad, I won a ticket on WTOS in Portland Maine, and viewed them in the 1990's. 💘
Guitar player for STP has a role as a extra on THE WALKING DEAD ...no makeup chair needed.
Well, as an addict in recovery, I felt all these guys from the 90s and related to the lyrics so much. Yes, there were hundreds of seemingly knock off wannabe grunge or alt rock bands with that Eddie Vedder tone etc., but STP was still so unique. Each album was so different from the others. Well, I managed to survive through the years, but felt my heart break each time we lost another alt rock legend, too many. I was never hooked on heroin so I have to ask, is it really that great and a better high than other stuff?? I cannot afford to experiment with any drugs these days, including even beer, but I just wonder why these rock gods preferred H over all the fans and talent and success they had???
STP held their own! Great band.
Agreed!
Not one sample of their music in the video ? Did I get that right ?
people hating them in the 90s is a clear example of how much the music industry is always about how you present the stuff to the sheep
Legendary
The best band all time (for me).
again another Great Video !!! STP Was My Bag ! I LOVED THEM and played their music as a musician over the years ,,,Ive always love the their passion
I never knew Scott Weiland was raised partially in San Jose, i completely understamd
The sad story of this person, the sad story of that person! Please! These guys have more money than most people. I will trade places with one of these "Sad" guys.
It's hard to think of a band that had as many songs hit the radio airwaves as STP.
One of the greatest debut albums
I saw STP at Red Rocks in Denver. They played with Butthole Surfers. What an amazing show!
One of the greatest bands of all time. Scott Weiland one of the greatest singers of all time
Reedy
Why do the subtitles have so much more info than the narration?
I seen STP open for Megadeth. It was fucking awesome!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Amazing, just started re-listening to STP a couple weeks ago, now my favorite TH-camr drops a mini-doc on them...i didnt like Scott, R.I.P., for a while because of the Axl beef, but i get it...
Stone temple pilots is an awesome band
loved me stp and X...
Scott’s story is tragic! But he hooked up with with a great band, The DeLeo brothers were awesome and created great music! They truly were one of the best bands of the ‘90s!!! At this time, you could not listen to rock stations for an hour without hearing an STP song! Sadly, Scott got caught up with his own demons, and self destructive habits!
I never understood why these rock stars always tell everything about their lives.
I love Sour Girl but since when was that considered their biggest hit? 🤔
Correction: Brendan O’Brien worked with STP before he worked with Pearl Jam.
Loved STP, something besides the grunge norm at the time.
Tiny Music… IS their best album 💿 CORE is a close second
lol 😆
so glad I've never had time to stop and check what "true fans" have to say about a band I enjoy - if you got a good song I'll play it nonstop, even if you are Nickelback - I'll let other debate who's "real" a "sold out" or an "industry plant"
They should have chosen “SillyTown Posers”
I think they qualify as one of the "Hordy, Herdy" bands from that era..
Glad to see Dave Mustaine helped STP⚡️🔥
They were a rock band..nothing grunge about them..And Purple is one of the best albums ever written..
Lee
How come zero information about the last albums made? I mean those albums are a part of their history??
One of the greatest bands out of the 90s.
Not just the 90's. One of the best of all time
I prefer them over Pearl Jam and Soundgarden.
@@metalmami7862oh for sure.
Weiland no doubt was one of the most electrifying front mans ever. When you see pics of him over the years, its almost a different person is there. When he went low, it was a huge low. I felt so bad cause im an addict myself, so i knew he was one of those cases you knew it wasn't gonna end well, and at the same time there was absolutely nothing anybody could of done to stop it. Ir was gonna happen, it was just a matter of when. Some addicts, such a small fraction, actually succeed in going and staying sober. I was one of those few and been sober 13 years, and there is no way I'm gonna drink/drug again. Just knowing i have mended so many relationships that i once destroyed, there is no way I'm ever gonna even think about ruining that again.
Good for you. Yes, we all knew of Scott's demons. It broke my heart when he died, but I wasn't surprised. Glad you're doing well. Keep it up.
Big ups on 13 bro. True words, thank you. I love Stone Temple Pilots and came to the comments to just read stuff from fellow fans and was not expecting a recovery message to be sitting at the top. HP stuff right there man. I am also clean for first time in my life and 142 days in and working it hard! Have a serine day!
I'm grateful for the 6 albums we got. They are all quality with Purple, Tiny Music & No.4 some of the finest musicianship, creative and mesmerizing music you'll ever hear.
GOD BLESS YA!!!❤️🙏❤️💕❤️
Keep strong, bro. I am proud of you.
I worked for Scott & the Wildabouts for three or so tours a year before his passing as their production manager and monitor engineer. Scott was:
Enigmatic.
Stubborn.
Relentless.
Engaged.
Disengaged.
Hard.
Soft.
Delightful.
Brutal.
Brilliant.
Stupid.
Tough.
Easy.
Talented.
Confused.
Hospitable.
Funny.
High.
A total ROCKSTAR.
As time went on, I felt I was watching the ultimate Faustian dream playing right before my eyes, where a talented man with more charisma in his little finger than most, lost out to his demons due to a disastrous deal with the devil.
I miss the guy.
R.I.P. Scott.
Man a what a way to put a complex and incredible human being into words
I like it. I also hate this and think it's funny/sad.
interested...
All of these problems with scott Sounds exactly like me. But I can't carry a tune In a bucket. The point I'm trying to make is we all have problems. all of us. If we were perfect We would be some kind of God or something. The bottom line is the guy could sing really good and he could also dance. The band is what made the band!!! it wasn't just Scott. It was all of them
Man I forgot to tell you thank you so much for your work In the music industry
Great as always,brother. Layne,Chris, and Scott were the 3 singers I loved the most. They were the reason I started singing...and now they're gone.
Last time I poke to God he said the same thang ! Ill admit I have mental issues but it seamed real .
@@brianpinion5844All 3 were made in the image of God. Their gift of voice was a gift directly from God and they are with God now. They were never from here. Now they are home.
And Corey too stone sour skipknot
They were the 3 best
A great time to be alive 1989~1999. 74 cent gas, 10 cent wings and this new music known as grunge. Fk yeah!
Randy
RIP Scott Weiland.
I always bump "Interstate Love Song" when I drive my car and to pay homage to Scott. It's one of the best songs to drive to.
Once I heard Interstate Love Song, I was definitely hooked! Was, are & always will be a Scott Wieland/STP fan! RIP Scott Wieland 💙🙏🏼
One of the worst stp songs imo. But, yes RIP Scott. I live down the street from the house Scott grew up in in Chagrin falls
I said his to my kid the other day when it came on the radio!
@@beautyonabarnbudget How on earth can you call it one of their worst songs?
I had a vanity plate on the front of my car: Interstate Love Song. I loved it.
STP were unfairly seen as a 2nd rate Nirvana by some music critics but I actually prefered them to Nirvana. Plush was so good as was some of their later stuff like Days of the Week. Scott was a great lyricist too.
It was more Pearl Jam (than Nirvana), that STP were accused of imitating. I remember kids in my school calling them “clone temple pilots” mainly because of Scott’s deeper singing voice on their first single Plush, which honestly did have a Vedder --ish sound to the vocals. But the instrumentation on plush, the rest of the songs on that album (Core), and the next few albums that followed more than proved that they were a great band with their own unique sound. definitely one of the best bands of the 90s. Even their last album that they put out before Weiland passed had some great stuff on it.
@@wtclifford I am in the UK where the music press here were terrified of American music completely taking over, the London press are vile and very xenophobic. Our music scene was dead, just full of really bad dance bands, the U.S grunge bands were like a breath of fresh air, but I do remember the UK music press trying to say they sounded like Nirvana-lite which I never agreed with at all. I actually remember when Vaseline came out they were very sarcastic and said "oh a song by STP that doesn't sound like Nirvana" and it drove me mad!
@@nonnayoubuzinnes1669 interesting! I’ll have to go back and listen to Core and see if I can hear what they were. My favorite song from their last self titled album, between the lines, as a pretty obvious musical reference/tribute to the nirvana song, stay away. So I don’t doubt that the influence is there.
I remember the comparison to Pearl Jam. I never really heard it, myself. At that time, I loved both of them.
@@wtclifford I don't think they sounded like Nirvana at all, it was just the music press being lazy. Even now they try to put grunge down and make out Brit Pop was far better when Brit Pop was just Beatles and Kinks rip off bands. I think they were unique and should have got more praise. Scott's lyrics were so good too. Big Bang Baby in particular.
Robert is such an underrated bassist. All of them are great musicians though. RIP Scott.
Yea he's really good. Well above average
💯 great guy too
I saw 3 STP concerts in the late 90's and 2000. The last concert was at The Hammerstein Ballroom in NYC, which is a tiny general admission venue. I'll never forget when Scott hit the stage with a gas mask and megaphone. The place went insane. These guys were so talented and Scott was a force of nature. Scott was one of a kind, RIP. I enjoy reading all the comments showing love to STP.
I love hammerstein ballroom . Its been awhile ,but i saw Pantera and soulfly there it was fn great and my last show there was a AIC solo tour in 2017 so its been a long time for me. Also was that the tour they did with the red hot chili peppers? Because i saw them at jones beach and he came out with the mega phone on some songs,but not sure about the gas mask as i was to far back
I saw a Scott Weiland free concert at a mall. It was clear his glory days were over.
@@poolboyinla holy $hit. Are you serious? What year was this? I'm not one for getting sentimental but picturing Scott Weiland, one of the best lead singers ever, from one of the best bands of the 90's, playing in some mall in Randomville USA, high off his mind, makes me want to cry. Drug addiction has taken away so many special people in the world far too early.
First sign a band is on the way out from internal turmoil... "small venue" after a label
@@MadScientist267 Hammersmith was not small. I remember it fondly.