2004-2008 Ford F150 Instrument Cluster Upgrade STX XL
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2021
- How to properly upgrade your base model instrument cluster on your 2004-2008 Ford F-150 XL or STX from the speedometer only cluster to any upgraded model from a XLT, FX4 or Lariat. I will be using Forscan to flash the cluster with a BBFly Elm OBDII device. You can buy it here (Amazon Paid Link) amzn.to/3eLXWcE and get Forscan here forscan.org/download.html (Windows PC). You will need an extended license which you can get here for free. You must register. forscan.org/forum/extlic.php
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I never tried anything like this before. I ordered what you showed in the video and followed it step by step. I am a mechanical engineer and I am a little technically savvy, but I think anyone could do it. Thanks for making it easy.
Followed to a tee, the chimes in the truck were almost in sync with your truck in the video lol. I had to swap my cluster in my 06 stx due to it malfunctioning with the classic loose solider joints issue, which I had repaired once before couple years ago. One of my employees wrecked my 07 xlt so I just had a tach cluster anyway on hand, but I needed to be rid of the compass/temp/TPMS system in the program. Worked like a charm with all items and instructions. Thank you
Excellent
Thanks for this video, i was able to swap mine with the use of your video, worked like a charm.
Gracias, soy mexicano y tu video me soluciono un gran problema
Xl 06 to FX4 08
Thanks!!!!!
Glad I found your vid..I have a 07 xl and access to a 08 FX cluster..Very simple change out..Just need a bud with a computer programer.. Probably the ford dealer...lol..Thks good commentary and clear instructions..
Wish I could do that to my 00 Grand Marquis. Great Video as Always!
Upgrde? Like PRNDL? Lol! Thanks for another great video, from a DIY to a DIY!
Great Video. I am about to change my 2003 HD F150 from kph dash to mph dash. Hopefully, this works for mine.
It should if you do this step by step
Greetings, and I read in one of your comments that the gear lever below doesn't work if it's the gear lever above. I have one that had the same one you took from that one and I mounted the Lariat one. The air does not work and obviously the doors. can it be reprogrammed and it will work or would it waste time?
I have an issue with the Forscan, I've became a subscriber, but couldn't save the data from my original PCM, could you kindly help, I have a 2004 Ford f150 XLT, trying to upgrade to a 05 cluster.
Will this work for my 2000 f150, new cluster plugs right in and turns on but the truck itself doesn’t it just cranks but doesn’t start
I've got an 06 F150 XL, the dome lights never worked, nor do the cargo lights, the door ajar message does show when the doors are open, there is no power at the dome light and cargo light sockets, crazy thing is when I switched out bad third brake light housing with LED's, the computer went bonkers, every relay in the fuse box was rapid clicking, the truck wouldn't start, and the PATS light was lit solid, I had to switch the cargo bulbs back to regular bulbs to get the truck back to normal again, this ruled out a switch or wire harness issue at least. I've been having issues with the odometer backlight working when it wants to, also the ABS and e-brake like stays on all the time. Would replacing the cluster resolve this?
What do I do if it doesn’t show me that I have to put the key in the on position
Which do I need to download, there's a v1 and v2
Guessing same works for 04. We have same dome light, Ford dealership said they've never seen that style. Mine is full of nicotine from it being a construction vehicle
Will this work for changing the ac to manual
Damn, I was about to make all of the mistakes 😂
What open source software are you using? I want to swap my STX cluster to and FX4 because I already have one. Thank you
Forcan
the a/c also works ?
Great Video!!! However, I had a couple glitches. I upgraded from 2004 STX to a Lariat gauge cluster. After loading original gauge profile (STX) all appears ok except door ajar, dome light doesn't work, and temp gauge is inop. (Which I know isn't connected. Everything else works great. What can I do to get dome light to work and door to chime?
The problem is you bought a cluster from a vehicle with a floor shifter as far as I have see you need a cluster that has the p r n d 1 2 on the bottom instead of fx4 for example if it has fx4,or lariat, king ranch etc don’t buy it unless you have the floor shifter hope this helps
I just completed this change out in my 06. While I was looking for some information about this I came across this video. Everything works perfectly so far except when I turned the truck back on the mileage was not what was on the cluster but what was on the one that I bought it didn’t change. Is there a way to correct this using FORScan?
In this video I stated the mileage cannot be changed in Forscan and stays with the cluster, so its important to get a used cluster with the same mileage, or you can send it off to a shop that can reprogram the EEPROM that stores the mileage.
Thanks for the video, cant wait to try this out! I have the same cluster but its been sitting collecting dust lol. Did you ever figure out how to change the Milage? My Original has 241k and Swap has 120k, Big difference for Inspection to notice lol.
You can't change the mileage without purchasing expensive tools and opening up the cluster. You can find places on eBay that you can send it to and they will do it.
Love the video - what would you do if you had a broken cluster though? Mine broke, i got an fx4 cluster but configs don't match, no idea where to try and get the config =__-
In newer versions of forscan you can download your as built data for your factory configuration and then flash that to your new fx4 cluster and it should work perfectly
@@JackofAllMasterofNone yup!
Hi. I have a 2005 f150 xlt. Wanted to upgrade the cluster to the one of a lincoln mark lt a friend of mine gave me. I have read that the ac wont work if i do. But since i found your video it has given me hope. Any thoughts if it ll work?
Not sure, but it probably will work if you do what I did. The biggest problem will be you won't have the buttons that change settings on the cluster.
I have a FORD 2005 XL 4.6L V6 with the stock cluster, I would like to upgrade it with a tach as well, can you recommend one? and where would I get one?
This is exactly what was done in this video. You just need one from an XLT. I bought mine on eBay. eBay or your local junk yard is where to look
Genius. Is he saying FORSCAN or FORSKIN tho?
It’s FordSkin. 😝
I was just told from a garage that to fix my gauge issue, I would have to have my truck recalibrated at the dealership and it would cost me $1000+. I’ve watched these vids and this looks relatively straight forward. Is it permissible to go back there and whip them with a stick for appearing to have boldly lied to me LOL?
Knowledge is power for sure 😉
Followed the directions and now my problem is fixed. Thanks so much!
Technology is great, and we all need to save money these days as gas keeps sky rocketing.
Does the Forscan program have bi-directional capabilities, using the laptop version?
Yes
Mahalo for this video. Just got me a cluster with tach and will be purchasing this forscan so it works properly. Also would the dealership be able to correct the mileage for me?
I believe on this generation the only way to correct the mileage is to have a shop that has specialized equipment to connect directly to the mileage eprom on the circuit board.
Where do I get the activation code from?
Hey your rev meter automatically works. You don’t need to by any sensor?
Correct
will the original cluster without tach work with the new cluster with tach ?
They are interchangeable
Can u program a xlt to lariat cluster with ford scan
Yes you can. Forscan
Hi Do you know if this will work on a FX4 instrument cluster?
I don't know for sure but others in the comments say it will.
If you have an xl would putting a lariat cluster in work as well?
Nooo
It'll cause a no start and engine shut down.
@@houstonlumberjack6976i highly doubt that, i put a lariat cluster in my xlt and it works, about to do the steps in this video and then add the buttons
Thanks for the information about swapping the IC on my F150. I have an issue, everytime I write the old data into the new cluster it doesn't change the mileage. I save couple files of the original cluster and took photos of the registry to make sure is not corrupted. Any ideas why it doesn't want to chsnge the mileage.
It doesn't copy the miles.
No it doesn't, it keeps the original miles. I am going to run it again, I believe there was a message about the Odb2 compatibility. Am using Bbfly-Bf32302.
@@lemuelms What I'm saying is. If you watch the video again. You can't change the mileage. That's why you have to buy one that's close and wait until they match to switch them out. The odometer is on a isolated circuit. To change the mileage you have to write to the eeprom directly with a specialized piece of equipment. Later model F150s you can change the mileage with a separate service function in forscan, but you can only increase the mileage, not decrease it. They do this to prevent mileage fraud.
Thanks for the information. My old odometer has 413,000 and the new cluster has 214,00. Definitely I need to increase the mileage to be legal. For a 2004 F150 do you recommend to send it to repair shop or Forscan upgrade can do it.
@@lemuelms Probably have to send it off to have the mileage corrected. There are listings on eBay for this service. Relatively inexpensive. Just have to ship it to them.
Will the cluster work if i just plug and play without programming?
It will "work" but there may be some issues with the dome light.
My dash light comes on, but the cluster light for the miles do not come on, at night I cannot see the numbers only during the day. What can be the problem?
The backlighting for the LCD is probably burnt out. I do not know if it's a replaceable bulb or a soldered in LED unfortunately.
Hey do you know if the FX4 dash is plug in play as well ?
It's not plug and play. It has to be flashed with the ipc info from the original cluster and should work fine after that.
As far bolting it up ?
@@lukeharrielson9357 Yes. It bolts in the same. Might be an issue (I'm not for sure) if the fx4 has external buttons on the dash to change stuff then you would need to add them too. I'm not 100%
Did the miles swap over?
No. It's all in the video
Can I also use a lariat cluster
Not without adding additional wiring and buttons. The Lariat has switches to control gauge functions
anyway to do this with them both out of the truck?
Not that I know of.
My 2007 STX came with the factory tach. Probably cause its a 5 speed truck, every auto XL/STX Ive seen is the non-tach unit
Correct. Manual transmission trucks have the tach.
Where did you buy instrument cluster?
eBay
@@JackofAllMasterofNone thanks
Can we get the tempature outside to work?
Not if your truck doesn't have it to start. You would need a lot more stuff.
What if u don’t have the original cluster
In newer versions of forscan you can download the factory as built data and then flash that to the new cluster.
Do I have to program it
Yes. It's all in the video
Can I do this on any laptop?
Windows XP or above
What about chrome OS that’s what I got
@@rickygalindo2744 No
Has anyone made th attempt on swapping 04 with a 07 white cluster.? Shit", everything works the same except for my AC!? What do I need to swapp my manual ac to the digital ac and with just the basics!?? I do have the cluster trip buttons I got from parts yard and also grabed the in cab sensor becouse I read someone's post somewhere saying you need it.?? I just need my AC going I live in the desert and it's going to be hot as he'll soon!!!??? Looking for a hand??✊😁
I'm surprised your truck starts still. It'll breakdown one day with a no start. If I were you. Go back to original cluster.
I’m not sure the AC should be an issue tied in to the cluster.
How is this upgrade 😂
Looks better
I bought the unit and upon trying to install the driver's from the provided website I found there is none, every link is just an empty PDF file, so needless to say I wasted my money on this POS!
And trying to contact the company is a joke, they provide a page for questions and trying to send the message results in a error in Chinese.
AVOID THIS PRODUCT LIKE THE PLAUGE
NO WAY TO MAKE IT WORK AS YOU CANNOT GET DRIVERS ANYWHERE
It should have come with drivers