@@jacobvargas1138 long story short, Reanimator archetypes get an ability to sustain two undead as a single action rather than a two Separate actions. And paired with this, you basically get two free minions that don’t require ANY sort of action economy cost.
One thing you seem to have missed about Bloodline Conduit. It also specifies that the spell needs to have "no duration". So only instantaneous spells, meaning Fly and Resist Energy are not eligible. I still think it's better than Bloodline Evolution, but it doesn't give you all the flexibility of every spell you have of 5th level or lower.
Yeah noticed that as well. Bloodline conduit isn't actually as good as it seems because of the "no duration" rule. Most spells that have no duration are damage evocation spells or spells like heal which at 20th level wouldn't be as impactful as you want to have those spells in higher level spell slots and more utility spells in lower level spell slots which usually have durations. One which I think could be good would be a 4th level restoration to get rid of the drained condition besides long resting and the doomed condition.
A very important benefit of sorcerers you forgot to mention is the amount of spell slots they have: compared to other caster classes, they get +1 spell per spell level, which quickly makes a big difference. Theoretically, that should be offset by a more restrictive selection of spells, but in practice, that doesn't really come into play -- other casters only use 2-3 spells per spell level anyway.
the advantage that Arcane evolution has is that you can learn basically any arcane spell and any arcane spell became "your signature" cuz you can "prepared" at any lvl (that the spell can be cast) for the day.... also if you want more signature spell of X lvl and you don't like any spell of level X+ you can learn a lower lvl spell in that slot and designed as signature that also let you cast it at lower level that the signature slot is...
Sorcerer is my personal favorite caster in PF2e. They are *so* customizable and can be built in so many different ways. Maybe you want to focus on one thing, maybe focus on many different things, maybe even do a bootleg version of 2 or more classes. They are amazing.
how do you get around the need to add a single spell multiple times, for each spell level? It looks so restrictive from the outside, that it defeats the entire point of being a sorcerer, because you are forced to waste to have a spell for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, all the way to your highest level. Whats yoru experience with this?
@@Rizaidym which is fine, if there is only a very limited pool of spells that is worth heightening to the next level, but somehow I doubt that is the case. Lets throw out some numbers. How many 1st level spells are there that gain a bonus for every spell level above the 1st? You can only chose 1 of them as a signature spell
A small point: Bloodline mutation is innate - meaning that it can't be dispelled or counterspelled and works like a charm even in the rare antimagic zone. Being sixty feet in the air with the Fly spell can be a real drag if a spellcasting opponent blasts a dispel at you and you have to fire up Featherfall before you touch the ground (IF you even have Featherfall). Of course, if your ancestry has those li'l tricks you can pretty much ignore Bloodline mutation.
I have a primal gnome sorcerer who was allowed by his gm to have his familiar flavored a little sprite who is the same color as his hair. Since his hair is longish enough, the fey usually hides in it which leads to the sorc having conversations with his hair ever so often. Also he like to prestidigitate himself clean and his clothes clean but somehow always missing leftover veggies and fruit in his hair.
The best 20th Level Sorcerer Feat (IMO) is the one from the Fist of the Ruby Phoenix AP: The Ruby Resurrection Reaction! Paizo, that's the kind of stuff we want to see at 20th Level!
Gods & Magic added the Blessed Bloodline feat, which lets Sorcerers with a Divine Bloodline who worship a deity add a spells to their spell list that normally only clerics of that deity could cast. This means that an Angelic Sorcerer who worships Sarenrae can cast Burning Hands and Fireball like a Cleric of Sarenrae could.
Observation: Ancestral Blood Magic is less of a drag on characters archetyped into Sorcerer than on full-classed Sorcerers. If you archetype in at 2nd level, then spend a later class feat on Basic Bloodline Arcana (which lets you take a Sorcerer feat of 1st or 2nd level, name might be a bit off), then you'll be waiting for 1 level at most for the feature to kick in, but you'll probably already be 6th level or higher by that point, since most people archetyping in take Basic Spellcasting as soon as they can. Is this a VERY niche defense of a Feat most people won't take anyway? Yes. But I still think it's interesting- the way 2e handles multiclassing/archetyping affects certain feats very differently based on whether you're a full member of a class or just using archetype benefits, and I think that's really neat.
@@PlatonicLiquid Fair. RaW, that's not an option, then. Wouldn't be above granting that to a player if they asked, but point well made, I missed that detail.
@@PlatonicLiquid But if you take Advanced Blood Potency with your sorcerer archetype and select Ancestral Blood Magic as your feat, wouldn't that allow you to take your bloodline's blood magic effect?
It’s also about build versatility. You might wait a while for it to pay off, but if you know you’re an Aasimar that’ll get divine spells from your heritage, it probably looks better than some of the other Level 1 feat options. Imagine if it was a Level 10 feat - almost no one would take it.
@@graceofasloth No, because you don't have a blood magic effect to begin with. Sorcerer Dedication specifically says "You don't gain any other abilities from your choice of bloodline."
Hey there, great video as always! I wanted to add that Bloodline Conduit requires the spell cast to NOT have a duration, so you could not use it to freely spam buffs like "Fly".
Nonat1s: "Spiritsense will let you walk up to a house and sense whether there are living spirits inside." Text on the screen: "...and like most senses, it doesn't penetrate through solid objects." lol
Wow, FINALLY. I really really wanted this vid a year and a half ago to help me with my first 2e character, a sorcerer. And now... That game just ended and I'm trying other classes next, so this video is useless now! Lol. I'll still watch though, haha.
Oh true strike is genuinely great in pathfinder 2e. It does what you expect but it doesn't have concentration like its 5e equivalent, can be done before an attack in the same turn and also helps you ignore concealment to even further increase your chances of hitting. For these reasons it costs a level 1 spell slot but it's sooo worth it.
Given the recent OGL debacle (which has led me to your channel), I've decided to look more into Pathfinder as a system. And the first character I'd like to make in Pathfinder would be my favorite D&D character of all time, my Dragon Sorcerer. Sorcerer was my favorite class in 5e, and it looks like it'll be my favorite in Pathfinder as well so thanks for the informative guide for this new comer!
My personal experience is that sorcerer is an excellent class to play if you want to play a caster with access to any spell list, and then choose to ignore all or most of your class feats in favor of archetype feats. Highly customizable in that regard if you like experimenting with the various archetypes available, but still want access to regular magic.
I actually love the level 10 Ancestral Mage feat. You can use it to add heal to an arcane caster or you can add something like fireball to a divine caster. You have quite a lot of fun options, but i do have to agree that the level 1 feat tax is a little troublesome
Please NoNat, be a bit more careful with reading before claiming a feats effectiveness. Bloodline conduit says "No duration" so you can;t use it to cast fly, energy resist, water breathing.
I have been playing my goblin sorcerer since level 1 and he is level 15 now and I can tell it is a very cool class to play. He follows the elemental (fire and water, my DM and me homebrewed a class feat which allows me to have these two variations, which is pretty cool) bloodline and the focus spells are pretty powerful. What I like in this class is that you have lots of ressources in matter of quantity, and if you choose your spells well you're practically impossible to exhaust after level 10th: lots of spell slots, the focus points that resplenish automatically, the extra slots granted by feats, it's pretty amazing. Also I like the fact that my bloodline dips a bit into some arcane spells, giving me funny options. Also, being a Charisma character makes that you are nearly always useful out of combat, being Legendary in Diplomacy makes some things really sweet. My regret on this class is that all bloodlines don't seem equal. The elemental one is pretty good, all the focus spells are powerful, the blood magic effect combos well with the spells and the granted spells are good at like 70%, which is okay, but not all of them are that great. I am currently building another sorcerer with nymph bloodline which also seems good enough. So, my advice if you want to play a sorcerer: spend some time reading at least the blood magic, the first focus spell and the lvl 0-3 granted spells to be sure to choose something that will guide your character, not restrain it by taking useless place in your repertoire.
My first foray into Pathfinder, is the videogame Pathfinder:Kingmaker. Not played tabletop fantasy rpg in years. I usually play Sci-Fi themed tabletop rpg and skirmish games. I was looking at creating a Female Elf Sorcerer with the Undead Bloodline. Themed around the Banshee, and some inspiration from Sylvanas Windrunner. Hurricane Bow as a 1st level spell pick to boost my longbow damage. Along with Point Blank Shot Feat for the +1 to hit. And choose spells that would fit the theme. Considering a mix of Enchantment, Illusion and Necromancy spells.
The wait is over!!! My personal favorite class deep dive!! And if you do like hearing about our characters. My first PF2E character was a half elf dragonic sorcerer (blue dragon) named Alex Newcrown. Best memory of that character was me keeping some zombies at bay while my barbarian friend was beating down a wall so we could escape from a burning building.
Sorcerers don't need a ton of different spells like the Wizard has. It's all about 'Quality over Quantity.' Though in the case of how many times a day they can use those spells, the Sorcerer has both!
quality over quantity is the spell-blending wizard, very hard to match the number of high-level slots they get access to around the mid levels and onward
I played a Desert Ratfolk Blue Draconic Sorcerer named Deto Carlevaro in the current campaign I am playing in since late February of 2021 with my group of friends. "Deto was raised in a large Caravan going up and down the Golden Road as his family sold various wares, such as alchemical items, weapons and the odd trinket here and there. He valued all of his family, and valued it more than almost anyone would. He contributed to the caravan by earning money via gambling fairly and giving it back to the group, mostly to make up for the losses his uncle made making half baked inventions. Later he and his uncle left the caravan because of a certain group banishing Deto from his land, because of his Draconic Origin, allowing him to take a family member with him. He took his uncle since he saw him as a father figure [sadly the rest of the caravan didn't see him in such light] and left to a nearby city, and slowly encouraged him to find a job and maybe start over. Time passes, Deto levels up and eventually, hear word of his uncle's shenanigans and more or less becoming a fun side plot tied to the character, even opening a shop after accumulating enough funds. Later however, the party encountered him killing a vital NPC, working with the Big Bad with the campaign. He said that he gained powers from the gods he did not want, saying it was more of a curse than actual benefit [Oracle], swearing to kill them all with the BBEG. After defeating him non-lethally, he escaped, likely with aid from said BBEG. Soon after the party's Tyrant Champion swore he'd kill him the next time they saw each other and was disgusted by the alchemy obsessed Rogue's need to use the uncle's freshly cut eye for a potion. He as a character had enough. He reunited with his family, telling them the tales of his adventures, even telling his grandmother; who adventured when she was young that he even died once. After saying goodbye for possibly the last time, on his watch late at night he walked to talk to the Big Bad. He asked for why he was doing everything he was doing, why his uncle joined his cause, everything. That's when he decided, although he had one true friend in that party, as a character, he didn't want to help them, and instead help his uncle, and prevent his death, even if it means defeating his previous allies to do it." I'm still in the campaign, just as a different character, since it made sense in the story for Deto to leave (betrayal or otherwise), the new character is a Ifrit Leshy Fire Elemental Sorcerer, mostly to not make the party makeup too different but also different enough for me to not play the same thing.
@@devcrom3 Don't you know the point of Comment section? Don't you know that any engagement with video is giving him advantage in algorithms? I did express my positive feelings
Ok I got a sorcerer for you that I been wanting to play, Nonat1s Gourd (pumpkin) Leshy, Shadow Sorcerer. Put a lit candle into your head, become a living jack-o-lantern that goes MAXIMUM SPOOKY, going heavily into darkness, fear, intimidation skill feats (scare to death!), and take some feats to grab some fire spells as well. It's an amazing concept I really want to play but haven't had the chance.
Well I am playing a sorcerer right now ! Name's Piers, a silver draconic sorcerer with both the Liberator and Dragon Disciple archetypes (without free archetype, that's rough) I did pick Crossblooded evolution to get Heal as a signature spell and this has saved our group so many times ! Otherwise I play him as a somewhat tanky blaster in heavy armor, using dragon breath and some big spells themed around water, ice and lightning. He often uses Counterspell against enemy casters and this has turned the tides quite often !
ancestral blood is lvl1 for 2 main reasons future proofing, in case a later book gives earlier options and to make it easier to include in a build. If its lower level, you can take it when you have a spare feat below 5th level, so you're not forced to give up a 5th+ level feat to get the effect, its still gatekept til 5th level from its own mechanics
@@PlatonicLiquid but wouldn't you want to use your ancestry feats on feats that actually give you ancestral/innate access to spells (so for humans stuff like Arcane Tattoos at 1 and ornate tattoos at 5) so you can actually use your ancestral blood magic and ancestral mage sorcerer feats?
@@Zakiel97 Yeah, but Ancestral Paragon also exists, so you could take both Arcane Tattoos 1st level and Natural Ambition 3rd level to pick up Ancestral Blood Magic. Plus, you have to remember Versatile Heritages exist and are probably the best use-cases for this feat. Pretty much all of them grant innate spells, and some don't require a level 1 feat as a prereq. But even those that do, you can do the same trick with Ancestral Paragon
@@PlatonicLiquid Yeah I think versatile heritages are probably the better fit for ancestral blood magic, I mean taking 2 ancestry feats and a general feat just for this mild synergy is a pretty big investment for a human sorcerer imo
@@Zakiel97 No, I mean I was saying something like a Human Tiefling or a Human Sylph. Technically Arcane Tattoos requires that you're character be Varisian, so most characters can't take it. When I suggested Natural Ambition, I had Versatile Heritages in mind
You are forgetting, it said in text that spells that have NO DURATION can be cast without spending slots. Fly spell has a duration. Many transmutation and enchantment spells would not work.
Playing my cursed Strix Songbird Nymph Bloodlined Sorcerer is a lot of fun. Sure we only hit level 2 last session and most of my spell slots gets spent on healing. (Particularly during our first big encounter when my only offensive cantrip was Ray of Frost and we went up against a weakend frost troll...) Yeah I grabbed Cantrip Expansion for sure! And yeah my character is the group's healbot basically. (Even more so since we play with the Free Archetype rule and I went Oracle dedication for that with the Life Mystery.) Yeah I'll be doing a lot of healing and that's fine by me~ I'm having a blast with her both in combat and in RP but given that she's cursed to sing whenever she's happy and I'm going hard on performance skill feats. Or well that's gonna be the plan at least. Yeah I'm honestly looking forward to my next session already. My only complaint about a sorcerer so far is how unimpactful your bloodline stuff feels so far. Like I've had no reason to yet to cast any of the spells that would trigger my blood magic. Though maybe that's more the Nymph bloodlines fault or the fact that we're still just 2nd level that makes it feel that way? Either way though I've had a lot of fun with her. Like accidentally stumbling into the private area of the local lord, wandering around like the bird brain she is humming and whistling and then performing for the local lord and coming out of it all with a small sum of money. Just because I rolled badly on a check when searching the city we're in for something.
The occult one makes sense because typically people who dabble into the occult are very studious. I feel like it would make more sense if they got a skill that was a knowledge type skill.
I wish Spell Relay was of a lower level, because it would be great for a front liner to multiclass into sorcerer, then taking Advanced Blood Potency(Spell Relay) and delivery spells from teammates. Althought it would require Basic Blood Potency, I am not sure what level 1 or 2 sorcerer feat would be good. If a sorcerer can use a level 1 spell to counterspell, Counterspell would be great. A frontliner that can deliver his team's spells and hinder his opponents(they're both reactions though, so not in the same turn)
@Nonat1s do i understand it correctly that once i have unlocked signature spells at CL 3, i can immediately chose a lvl 1 signature spell and a lvl 2 signature spell? And then whenever i get access to new a spell level, i can set another signature spell for that level? Or do i have only one signature spell in total at any time?
Woo! The only class in 2e I've actually gotten a chance to play! Let's see how this class rates in Nonat's opinion. Edit: Honestly, better than expected. Also, hi Nonat!
Ayyy I actually play a Fey Sorcerer, his name is Siethvied and he is an 8 con elf ... kinda wimpy I had the idea from the CRB to play an elvish emmisary from Kyonin, then looked through LO:WG and found out that was an actual background made by paizo ... so basically, as always, paizo is 2 steps ahead of me. I loosely based him off of Thingol and Luthien and said that his unnatural charisma and magical abilities, along with his 14 (so decent, but you can tell he is more confident than completely smart) intelligence and wisdom. He went off into the world to try and use his gifts to pull support for his homeland for the threats in the age of lost omens. His personality includes a lot of wish for truthfullness and love to tell stories and things about yourself (playing with new players to RPGs this gives me an excuse to badger allies about backstories and give my own as an example of a half-effort one.) As a charismatic more than insightful person, and for his general weakness on the combat side, he is often feeling a sort of impostor syndrome as he tells lies, negotiates, and needs allies to get him out of many situations instead of being more "heroic".
Sorcerers get the same amount of spells as any other spellcaster since they got 3 trough 4 spell slots while the others gain 2 trough 3 spell slots meaning that your bloodline spells are basic extra spells.
I'm confused...Sorcerers are spontaneous casters, so you can spend that extra spellslot to cast a non-bloodline spell. That means they do get more spells per day than any other class besides a school-specialized wizard (which gets arcane bond in addition)
Do you actually get a Signature Spell for every spell level that you have or just the levels you have when you originally get the Signature Spell feature?
While I want to like the sorcerer class, it just feels like it's missing something unique. The fact that it can take any tradition is no longer unique with the witch and summoner out, and other new classes will likely have that trait in the future as well. I don't think the bloodlines do enough to stand out from each other and to make the class itself stand out from other spellcasters. Also the feat selection feels pretty lacking, the evolution feats seem almost like the expected choice compared to what other options at their level are. I think I wish the bloodlines did something more with some unique mechanic for the class. Something like each bloodline granting a unique metamagic that worked well with it's bonus spells or expanding on the use of each bloodline's focus spells.
you mean like gaining a +1 to AC for casting a spell slot spell? Maybe increasing the damage of your spells by spell level? Giving yourself and Allies Temp HP? Also name a class that gives you the abillity to both heal allies and harm enemies with a focus spell Sorcs also get more spell slots then witches. Witch Patrons don't give any extra passive effects
If I make an Angelic Sorcerer, it isn't worth it to take the Divine Evolution feat, is it? The Level 1 Granted Spell for that bloodline is already Heal, so I would only that spell slot for Harm, right?
Arcane evolution isn't weak for needing you to actually find the spells, that's a power limiter to keep it from being absurd. There's a reason that there's no way to have unmitigated access to the arcane list, you're always limited either by spellbook selections or repertoire limits, arcane is just too versatile. Weakest option is either occult evolution or primal evolution, depending on your campaign and how useful mental stuff is in general. Summons are pretty middling, so the extra spell slot for primal is nice, but not incredible. Divine evolution is the definite standout, an extra spell slot of highest level for heal is basically always good, and in the situations where it isn't, you can pack harm instead (which is significantly worse, but the fact that you can choose either in the moment is always good.)
22:43 BUT if you combined the Energy Fusion feat with Energy Ward you could then use the element you want as the secondary effect to gain resistance from what they use. Not sure if this is actually any good considering you have to use a higher level class feat to take a lower one but it works!
Nothing from Secret of Magic but Gods and magic BLESSED BLOOD lvl 1 feat Prerequisites bloodline that grants divine spells, you follow a deity Your deity’s blessings manifest in your blood-borne power. Add up to three of your deity’s spells (spells your deity grants to clerics) to your spell list. They are not automatically added to your repertoire, but you can select them just as you would spells normally on the divine spell list.
bloodline conduit doesn't work for spells with a duration, so resist energy and fly and such are not compatible. Bloodline mutation is still RP only feat. like if the GM says level 20 and you retire no more campaign.. then cool, take it and become one with your ancestors
A few questions I am listening while working is effortless con really once per day? Does meta magic master say once per turn? And can you use echo spell on a echoed spell for endless casting of 4th level fireballs?
Energetic Resonance doesn't have a duration, and it doesn't say you gain resistance against the triggering effect, just that you gain resistance. Am I wrong in thinking that RAW that means its permanent? Lol
Ancestral blood magic: Perhaps those feats came before ancestral blood magic? In that case it might be level 1 so you can have it when the ancestry feats that give you leveled spells are available.
One interesting thing about Bespell Weapon is it says "most recent action" RAW this means if you ended your turn with a spell, you can use BW next turn and attack without MAP
@@rationlesspersona did they? It's just strange how BW just says "most recent action", while some other abilities specifically say "most recent action this turn". For example, great white shark's Savage ability states exactly that A typo then? Was it officially errated?
So, here’s the question: If I as a GM were to replace Signature Spell with the ability to heighten every spell in your repetoire, would that be wise? Would that be helping out sorcerers or just make them busted?
Then you would have more of a prepared caster. Part of the appeal to casters being prepared/spontanous is the difference: prepared casters know much more spells, but have to do some thinking as to which spells they'll need each day. Spontanous casters know less spells, but are, well, more spontanous in what they can cast. With your replacement, you would have a kind of prepared caster, who knows even less spells than a With for example. Propably not the wisest decision.
probably make them busted, they already got the highest number of spell slots per day - increasing their flexibility that much would make any other caster in the party feel really bad if you don't do smth similar there, like a wizard's only real edge over the sorcerer is the greater span of spells available to them, if sorcerers can freely heighten they will gain so much more in that area that it would be hard to find a way to give someone a reason to play a wizard.
The sorcereress at the end of your video looks offended that you never gave her a smash or pass rating. Don't be surprised if you wake up enfeebled. *tosses a log on the fire of sacrifice*
Don't you love it when arcane evolution is treated with the respect it deserves while the polymath bard is badmouthed for a spell that is practically the exact same thing?
Why I took Bloodline Mutation? Because my Aasimar Angelic Sorcered became an actual Angel at Level 20 and that shit is cool as fuck. Also Seoni is best girl don't @ me
AFAIK bloodline evolution doesn't get dispelled so you can be knocked out of the air with the fly spell being dispelled/ Plus my gobbo wants his dragon wings
No, because metamagic requires your next action to be Cast a Spell. So if you use another metamagic feat, it cancels out the previous one. Its a free action, but the metamagic trait specifically calls out free actions and reactions as breaking the link.
2:13 Technically, the Rogue is in the Core Rule Book and Eldritch Tricksters can use any tradition... I know, I know: its a technicality due to the subclass rules being in the APG, but I had to mention it.
One thing that bugs me about spellcasters in 2E is that they progress their spellcasting DC two levels lower than anyone else progresses their 'the thing'. All spellcasters get Legendary Spellcasting at level 19, while anyone else who get's Legendary anything, armor, weapons, abilities, whatever, tend to get it at lvl 17. That's the same difference for each rank. Add in that you can increase armor or weapons with magic (+1, +2, etc), but AFAIK you can't increase your spell DC with magic items, and I see spellcasters consistently running 2, 3, or 4 points lower for their 'accuracy' compared to other characters. Add in that spells are a finite resource and this hurts.
36:48 I don't think you can nonat, doesn't that spell have a duration. @nonat1s But notnat, Blood conduit requires it have no duration. So you can not cast fly in this way. Which means if you always want fly active that bloodline mutation is better for this reason. But some blood lines give fly right? (I will have to check this later) It's still a niche feat, but you can't keep re casting fly for free or resist engery since I think they have a duration to it.
Correction: Effortless Concentration isn't once per day, it's whenever your turn begins, which makes it a TON stronger.
Oh wow! That's a huge mistake on my part! Nevermind. I'm an idiot. That feat is incredible and everyone should take it lol
*looks at book of the dead ‘Reanimater’ archetype* Oh… oh no… OH NO….
@@Brygantor?
@@Brygantor oh yes buddy
@@jacobvargas1138 long story short, Reanimator archetypes get an ability to sustain two undead as a single action rather than a two Separate actions. And paired with this, you basically get two free minions that don’t require ANY sort of action economy cost.
Nonat1: "Do you remember class guides?"
Me: stares blankly
One thing you seem to have missed about Bloodline Conduit. It also specifies that the spell needs to have "no duration". So only instantaneous spells, meaning Fly and Resist Energy are not eligible.
I still think it's better than Bloodline Evolution, but it doesn't give you all the flexibility of every spell you have of 5th level or lower.
Yeah noticed that as well. Bloodline conduit isn't actually as good as it seems because of the "no duration" rule. Most spells that have no duration are damage evocation spells or spells like heal which at 20th level wouldn't be as impactful as you want to have those spells in higher level spell slots and more utility spells in lower level spell slots which usually have durations. One which I think could be good would be a 4th level restoration to get rid of the drained condition besides long resting and the doomed condition.
A very important benefit of sorcerers you forgot to mention is the amount of spell slots they have: compared to other caster classes, they get +1 spell per spell level, which quickly makes a big difference. Theoretically, that should be offset by a more restrictive selection of spells, but in practice, that doesn't really come into play -- other casters only use 2-3 spells per spell level anyway.
the advantage that Arcane evolution has is that you can learn basically any arcane spell and any arcane spell became "your signature" cuz you can "prepared" at any lvl (that the spell can be cast) for the day.... also if you want more signature spell of X lvl and you don't like any spell of level X+ you can learn a lower lvl spell in that slot and designed as signature that also let you cast it at lower level that the signature slot is...
Sorcerer is my personal favorite caster in PF2e. They are *so* customizable and can be built in so many different ways. Maybe you want to focus on one thing, maybe focus on many different things, maybe even do a bootleg version of 2 or more classes. They are amazing.
how do you get around the need to add a single spell multiple times, for each spell level? It looks so restrictive from the outside, that it defeats the entire point of being a sorcerer, because you are forced to waste to have a spell for 1st, 2nd, 3rd, all the way to your highest level.
Whats yoru experience with this?
@@texteel That's what signature spells are for.
@@Rizaidym which is fine, if there is only a very limited pool of spells that is worth heightening to the next level, but somehow I doubt that is the case.
Lets throw out some numbers. How many 1st level spells are there that gain a bonus for every spell level above the 1st? You can only chose 1 of them as a signature spell
The only benefit I can see for bloodline mutation is that it gives you that creature type so you can now do the demonic or infernal pact ritual.
A small point: Bloodline mutation is innate - meaning that it can't be dispelled or counterspelled and works like a charm even in the rare antimagic zone. Being sixty feet in the air with the Fly spell can be a real drag if a spellcasting opponent blasts a dispel at you and you have to fire up Featherfall before you touch the ground (IF you even have Featherfall). Of course, if your ancestry has those li'l tricks you can pretty much ignore Bloodline mutation.
I have a primal gnome sorcerer who was allowed by his gm to have his familiar flavored a little sprite who is the same color as his hair. Since his hair is longish enough, the fey usually hides in it which leads to the sorc having conversations with his hair ever so often. Also he like to prestidigitate himself clean and his clothes clean but somehow always missing leftover veggies and fruit in his hair.
Class Guides?! This is an AMAZING idea! You could get somewhere around 20K subs from doing more of these! ;)
The best 20th Level Sorcerer Feat (IMO) is the one from the Fist of the Ruby Phoenix AP:
The Ruby Resurrection Reaction!
Paizo, that's the kind of stuff we want to see at 20th Level!
Oh hey, I just marathoned all of these the class deep dive videos in your playlist over the last two days. How topical!
Gods & Magic added the Blessed Bloodline feat, which lets Sorcerers with a Divine Bloodline who worship a deity add a spells to their spell list that normally only clerics of that deity could cast. This means that an Angelic Sorcerer who worships Sarenrae can cast Burning Hands and Fireball like a Cleric of Sarenrae could.
Observation: Ancestral Blood Magic is less of a drag on characters archetyped into Sorcerer than on full-classed Sorcerers. If you archetype in at 2nd level, then spend a later class feat on Basic Bloodline Arcana (which lets you take a Sorcerer feat of 1st or 2nd level, name might be a bit off), then you'll be waiting for 1 level at most for the feature to kick in, but you'll probably already be 6th level or higher by that point, since most people archetyping in take Basic Spellcasting as soon as they can.
Is this a VERY niche defense of a Feat most people won't take anyway? Yes. But I still think it's interesting- the way 2e handles multiclassing/archetyping affects certain feats very differently based on whether you're a full member of a class or just using archetype benefits, and I think that's really neat.
But multiclass sorcerers don't get blood magic effects soooo...
@@PlatonicLiquid Fair. RaW, that's not an option, then. Wouldn't be above granting that to a player if they asked, but point well made, I missed that detail.
@@PlatonicLiquid But if you take Advanced Blood Potency with your sorcerer archetype and select Ancestral Blood Magic as your feat, wouldn't that allow you to take your bloodline's blood magic effect?
It’s also about build versatility. You might wait a while for it to pay off, but if you know you’re an Aasimar that’ll get divine spells from your heritage, it probably looks better than some of the other Level 1 feat options. Imagine if it was a Level 10 feat - almost no one would take it.
@@graceofasloth No, because you don't have a blood magic effect to begin with. Sorcerer Dedication specifically says "You don't gain any other abilities from your choice of bloodline."
Hey there, great video as always! I wanted to add that Bloodline Conduit requires the spell cast to NOT have a duration, so you could not use it to freely spam buffs like "Fly".
Nonat1s: "Spiritsense will let you walk up to a house and sense whether there are living spirits inside."
Text on the screen: "...and like most senses, it doesn't penetrate through solid objects."
lol
Wow, FINALLY. I really really wanted this vid a year and a half ago to help me with my first 2e character, a sorcerer. And now... That game just ended and I'm trying other classes next, so this video is useless now! Lol. I'll still watch though, haha.
"That's a good combo with True Strike" as a 5e player, these are words I never thought I would hear.
Oh true strike is genuinely great in pathfinder 2e. It does what you expect but it doesn't have concentration like its 5e equivalent, can be done before an attack in the same turn and also helps you ignore concealment to even further increase your chances of hitting. For these reasons it costs a level 1 spell slot but it's sooo worth it.
One step closer to the Wizard video!
Given the recent OGL debacle (which has led me to your channel), I've decided to look more into Pathfinder as a system. And the first character I'd like to make in Pathfinder would be my favorite D&D character of all time, my Dragon Sorcerer. Sorcerer was my favorite class in 5e, and it looks like it'll be my favorite in Pathfinder as well so thanks for the informative guide for this new comer!
Dude Spell Relay is so cool. I’d definitely take it if I were playing with another caster.
My personal experience is that sorcerer is an excellent class to play if you want to play a caster with access to any spell list, and then choose to ignore all or most of your class feats in favor of archetype feats. Highly customizable in that regard if you like experimenting with the various archetypes available, but still want access to regular magic.
I actually love the level 10 Ancestral Mage feat. You can use it to add heal to an arcane caster or you can add something like fireball to a divine caster. You have quite a lot of fun options, but i do have to agree that the level 1 feat tax is a little troublesome
Please NoNat, be a bit more careful with reading before claiming a feats effectiveness. Bloodline conduit says "No duration" so you can;t use it to cast fly, energy resist, water breathing.
Quick note on echoing spell: it can't be used on a spell with a duration, so fear is not a spell you can use with it.
Bloodline conduit: a spell that has no duration
Nonat: you can cast those spells that last for 10 minutes!
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Shhhhhhhhh. Everyone thinks I can read, but they're wrong 😂
Gets Covid, is sad, nonat1 upload, is happy
Hope you recover soon!
I have been playing my goblin sorcerer since level 1 and he is level 15 now and I can tell it is a very cool class to play. He follows the elemental (fire and water, my DM and me homebrewed a class feat which allows me to have these two variations, which is pretty cool) bloodline and the focus spells are pretty powerful.
What I like in this class is that you have lots of ressources in matter of quantity, and if you choose your spells well you're practically impossible to exhaust after level 10th: lots of spell slots, the focus points that resplenish automatically, the extra slots granted by feats, it's pretty amazing. Also I like the fact that my bloodline dips a bit into some arcane spells, giving me funny options. Also, being a Charisma character makes that you are nearly always useful out of combat, being Legendary in Diplomacy makes some things really sweet.
My regret on this class is that all bloodlines don't seem equal. The elemental one is pretty good, all the focus spells are powerful, the blood magic effect combos well with the spells and the granted spells are good at like 70%, which is okay, but not all of them are that great. I am currently building another sorcerer with nymph bloodline which also seems good enough.
So, my advice if you want to play a sorcerer: spend some time reading at least the blood magic, the first focus spell and the lvl 0-3 granted spells to be sure to choose something that will guide your character, not restrain it by taking useless place in your repertoire.
My first foray into Pathfinder, is the videogame Pathfinder:Kingmaker. Not played tabletop fantasy rpg in years. I usually play Sci-Fi themed tabletop rpg and skirmish games.
I was looking at creating a Female Elf Sorcerer with the Undead Bloodline. Themed around the Banshee, and some inspiration from Sylvanas Windrunner. Hurricane Bow as a 1st level spell pick to boost my longbow damage. Along with Point Blank Shot Feat for the +1 to hit. And choose spells that would fit the theme. Considering a mix of Enchantment, Illusion and Necromancy spells.
The wait is over!!! My personal favorite class deep dive!!
And if you do like hearing about our characters. My first PF2E character was a half elf dragonic sorcerer (blue dragon) named Alex Newcrown. Best memory of that character was me keeping some zombies at bay while my barbarian friend was beating down a wall so we could escape from a burning building.
Sorcerers don't need a ton of different spells like the Wizard has. It's all about 'Quality over Quantity.'
Though in the case of how many times a day they can use those spells, the Sorcerer has both!
quality over quantity is the spell-blending wizard, very hard to match the number of high-level slots they get access to around the mid levels and onward
Watching BIG nonat videos is always the best to listen to while session prepping
I played a Desert Ratfolk Blue Draconic Sorcerer named Deto Carlevaro in the current campaign I am playing in since late February of 2021 with my group of friends.
"Deto was raised in a large Caravan going up and down the Golden Road as his family sold various wares, such as alchemical items, weapons and the odd trinket here and there. He valued all of his family, and valued it more than almost anyone would. He contributed to the caravan by earning money via gambling fairly and giving it back to the group, mostly to make up for the losses his uncle made making half baked inventions.
Later he and his uncle left the caravan because of a certain group banishing Deto from his land, because of his Draconic Origin, allowing him to take a family member with him. He took his uncle since he saw him as a father figure [sadly the rest of the caravan didn't see him in such light] and left to a nearby city, and slowly encouraged him to find a job and maybe start over.
Time passes, Deto levels up and eventually, hear word of his uncle's shenanigans and more or less becoming a fun side plot tied to the character, even opening a shop after accumulating enough funds. Later however, the party encountered him killing a vital NPC, working with the Big Bad with the campaign. He said that he gained powers from the gods he did not want, saying it was more of a curse than actual benefit [Oracle], swearing to kill them all with the BBEG. After defeating him non-lethally, he escaped, likely with aid from said BBEG.
Soon after the party's Tyrant Champion swore he'd kill him the next time they saw each other and was disgusted by the alchemy obsessed Rogue's need to use the uncle's freshly cut eye for a potion. He as a character had enough. He reunited with his family, telling them the tales of his adventures, even telling his grandmother; who adventured when she was young that he even died once. After saying goodbye for possibly the last time, on his watch late at night he walked to talk to the Big Bad.
He asked for why he was doing everything he was doing, why his uncle joined his cause, everything. That's when he decided, although he had one true friend in that party, as a character, he didn't want to help them, and instead help his uncle, and prevent his death, even if it means defeating his previous allies to do it."
I'm still in the campaign, just as a different character, since it made sense in the story for Deto to leave (betrayal or otherwise), the new character is a Ifrit Leshy Fire Elemental Sorcerer, mostly to not make the party makeup too different but also different enough for me to not play the same thing.
Hello there!
Sadly, I am not very interested in caster classes.
Still, thanks a lot for your engaging charisma and smile.
No one asked.
@@devcrom3 Don't you know the point of Comment section?
Don't you know that any engagement with video is giving him advantage in algorithms?
I did express my positive feelings
Fastest click in the bloodline
Ok I got a sorcerer for you that I been wanting to play, Nonat1s
Gourd (pumpkin) Leshy, Shadow Sorcerer.
Put a lit candle into your head, become a living jack-o-lantern that goes MAXIMUM SPOOKY, going heavily into darkness, fear, intimidation skill feats (scare to death!), and take some feats to grab some fire spells as well.
It's an amazing concept I really want to play but haven't had the chance.
Well I am playing a sorcerer right now !
Name's Piers, a silver draconic sorcerer with both the Liberator and Dragon Disciple archetypes (without free archetype, that's rough)
I did pick Crossblooded evolution to get Heal as a signature spell and this has saved our group so many times !
Otherwise I play him as a somewhat tanky blaster in heavy armor, using dragon breath and some big spells themed around water, ice and lightning. He often uses Counterspell against enemy casters and this has turned the tides quite often !
Been waiting for a deep dive on this class!!
ancestral blood is lvl1 for 2 main reasons
future proofing, in case a later book gives earlier options
and to make it easier to include in a build. If its lower level, you can take it when you have a spare feat below 5th level, so you're not forced to give up a 5th+ level feat to get the effect, its still gatekept til 5th level from its own mechanics
Its also a good pickup for Human's Natural Ambition
@@PlatonicLiquid but wouldn't you want to use your ancestry feats on feats that actually give you ancestral/innate access to spells (so for humans stuff like Arcane Tattoos at 1 and ornate tattoos at 5) so you can actually use your ancestral blood magic and ancestral mage sorcerer feats?
@@Zakiel97 Yeah, but Ancestral Paragon also exists, so you could take both Arcane Tattoos 1st level and Natural Ambition 3rd level to pick up Ancestral Blood Magic. Plus, you have to remember Versatile Heritages exist and are probably the best use-cases for this feat. Pretty much all of them grant innate spells, and some don't require a level 1 feat as a prereq. But even those that do, you can do the same trick with Ancestral Paragon
@@PlatonicLiquid Yeah I think versatile heritages are probably the better fit for ancestral blood magic, I mean taking 2 ancestry feats and a general feat just for this mild synergy is a pretty big investment for a human sorcerer imo
@@Zakiel97 No, I mean I was saying something like a Human Tiefling or a Human Sylph. Technically Arcane Tattoos requires that you're character be Varisian, so most characters can't take it. When I suggested Natural Ambition, I had Versatile Heritages in mind
Ah! I mentioned it the other day and now here it is, thank you! :D
Thank you! This was really helpful
You are forgetting, it said in text that spells that have NO DURATION can be cast without spending slots. Fly spell has a duration. Many transmutation and enchantment spells would not work.
Funny you seem more positive of Evolution feats versus the equivalent Feat Polymath Bards get. Any reason in particular?
Oooh now I can’t wait for the bloodlines video.
Playing my cursed Strix Songbird Nymph Bloodlined Sorcerer is a lot of fun. Sure we only hit level 2 last session and most of my spell slots gets spent on healing. (Particularly during our first big encounter when my only offensive cantrip was Ray of Frost and we went up against a weakend frost troll...) Yeah I grabbed Cantrip Expansion for sure! And yeah my character is the group's healbot basically. (Even more so since we play with the Free Archetype rule and I went Oracle dedication for that with the Life Mystery.) Yeah I'll be doing a lot of healing and that's fine by me~ I'm having a blast with her both in combat and in RP but given that she's cursed to sing whenever she's happy and I'm going hard on performance skill feats. Or well that's gonna be the plan at least. Yeah I'm honestly looking forward to my next session already. My only complaint about a sorcerer so far is how unimpactful your bloodline stuff feels so far. Like I've had no reason to yet to cast any of the spells that would trigger my blood magic. Though maybe that's more the Nymph bloodlines fault or the fact that we're still just 2nd level that makes it feel that way? Either way though I've had a lot of fun with her. Like accidentally stumbling into the private area of the local lord, wandering around like the bird brain she is humming and whistling and then performing for the local lord and coming out of it all with a small sum of money. Just because I rolled badly on a check when searching the city we're in for something.
The occult one makes sense because typically people who dabble into the occult are very studious. I feel like it would make more sense if they got a skill that was a knowledge type skill.
I wish Spell Relay was of a lower level, because it would be great for a front liner to multiclass into sorcerer, then taking Advanced Blood Potency(Spell Relay) and delivery spells from teammates. Althought it would require Basic Blood Potency, I am not sure what level 1 or 2 sorcerer feat would be good. If a sorcerer can use a level 1 spell to counterspell, Counterspell would be great. A frontliner that can deliver his team's spells and hinder his opponents(they're both reactions though, so not in the same turn)
@Nonat1s do i understand it correctly that once i have unlocked signature spells at CL 3, i can immediately chose a lvl 1 signature spell and a lvl 2 signature spell? And then whenever i get access to new a spell level, i can set another signature spell for that level? Or do i have only one signature spell in total at any time?
Yep! Right away you get signature spells for all known spell levels!
I theorycrafted an Azarketi nymph bloodline sorcerer inspired by the selkie. The downside is that there is no seal battleform.
Woo! The only class in 2e I've actually gotten a chance to play! Let's see how this class rates in Nonat's opinion.
Edit: Honestly, better than expected. Also, hi Nonat!
Big happy!
My favorite class since it was invented.
Did someone already point out that DC 15 is not a 25% but 30% chance? Not that it matters much, since no one is going to take steady spellcasting
playing a 8th lvl draconic sorcerer right now and this video made me realize that I totally built him wrong, guess ill have to retrain
Sorcerer: for people who aren't nerds that want to prepare spells every day
But sorcerers DON'T prepare spells! Unless they have whatever that feat was that gives them a few spells like wizards have!
Consume Spell = Drain Magic
I'd love to have absorb reactions to elements in PF2e.
Is the bloodline video still in the works?
No sponsorship, but wow were the YT ads thick as I watched! Good video, sir.
Gotta pay rent somehow 😅
Ayyy I actually play a Fey Sorcerer, his name is Siethvied and he is an 8 con elf ... kinda wimpy
I had the idea from the CRB to play an elvish emmisary from Kyonin, then looked through LO:WG and found out that was an actual background made by paizo ... so basically, as always, paizo is 2 steps ahead of me.
I loosely based him off of Thingol and Luthien and said that his unnatural charisma and magical abilities, along with his 14 (so decent, but you can tell he is more confident than completely smart) intelligence and wisdom. He went off into the world to try and use his gifts to pull support for his homeland for the threats in the age of lost omens.
His personality includes a lot of wish for truthfullness and love to tell stories and things about yourself (playing with new players to RPGs this gives me an excuse to badger allies about backstories and give my own as an example of a half-effort one.) As a charismatic more than insightful person, and for his general weakness on the combat side, he is often feeling a sort of impostor syndrome as he tells lies, negotiates, and needs allies to get him out of many situations instead of being more "heroic".
Bloodline conduit is quite good and if it was only once a day for all spell levels it wouldn't fill the same niche.
Sorcerers get the same amount of spells as any other spellcaster since they got 3 trough 4 spell slots while the others gain 2 trough 3 spell slots meaning that your bloodline spells are basic extra spells.
I think he was comparing it to wizards who get extra spells as well but with more freedom
@@bootifulb4427 it would be a nonsense comparison. Wizards are prepared casters of course they extra slots should be more flexible than a sorcerer.
@@diegorodrigues9528 i know and you know but no nat doesn't seem to know
I'm confused...Sorcerers are spontaneous casters, so you can spend that extra spellslot to cast a non-bloodline spell. That means they do get more spells per day than any other class besides a school-specialized wizard (which gets arcane bond in addition)
Do you actually get a Signature Spell for every spell level that you have or just the levels you have when you originally get the Signature Spell feature?
IT'S BEEN SO LONG, FINALLY
While I want to like the sorcerer class, it just feels like it's missing something unique. The fact that it can take any tradition is no longer unique with the witch and summoner out, and other new classes will likely have that trait in the future as well.
I don't think the bloodlines do enough to stand out from each other and to make the class itself stand out from other spellcasters. Also the feat selection feels pretty lacking, the evolution feats seem almost like the expected choice compared to what other options at their level are.
I think I wish the bloodlines did something more with some unique mechanic for the class. Something like each bloodline granting a unique metamagic that worked well with it's bonus spells or expanding on the use of each bloodline's focus spells.
you mean like gaining a +1 to AC for casting a spell slot spell? Maybe increasing the damage of your spells by spell level? Giving yourself and Allies Temp HP?
Also name a class that gives you the abillity to both heal allies and harm enemies with a focus spell
Sorcs also get more spell slots then witches. Witch Patrons don't give any extra passive effects
If I make an Angelic Sorcerer, it isn't worth it to take the Divine Evolution feat, is it? The Level 1 Granted Spell for that bloodline is already Heal, so I would only that spell slot for Harm, right?
Arcane evolution isn't weak for needing you to actually find the spells, that's a power limiter to keep it from being absurd. There's a reason that there's no way to have unmitigated access to the arcane list, you're always limited either by spellbook selections or repertoire limits, arcane is just too versatile. Weakest option is either occult evolution or primal evolution, depending on your campaign and how useful mental stuff is in general. Summons are pretty middling, so the extra spell slot for primal is nice, but not incredible. Divine evolution is the definite standout, an extra spell slot of highest level for heal is basically always good, and in the situations where it isn't, you can pack harm instead (which is significantly worse, but the fact that you can choose either in the moment is always good.)
Hey no Nat do you think your ever Gona stream one of bees vid again really liked the monk stream
To me signature spell expansion is better than quickened spell for the flexibility
Thx for the sorcere 101!
30:15 ELECTRIC ARRRRRRRC!!!(See Band of Bravos for reference, then continue to enjoy Band of Bravos)
22:43 BUT if you combined the Energy Fusion feat with Energy Ward you could then use the element you want as the secondary effect to gain resistance from what they use. Not sure if this is actually any good considering you have to use a higher level class feat to take a lower one but it works!
Nothing from Secret of Magic but Gods and magic
BLESSED BLOOD
lvl 1 feat
Prerequisites bloodline that grants divine spells, you follow a deity
Your deity’s blessings manifest in your blood-borne power. Add up to three of your deity’s spells (spells your deity grants to clerics) to your spell list. They are not automatically added to your repertoire, but you can select them just as you would spells normally on the divine spell list.
Which might actually be the best level 1 sorcerer feat imo
bloodline conduit doesn't work for spells with a duration, so resist energy and fly and such are not compatible. Bloodline mutation is still RP only feat. like if the GM says level 20 and you retire no more campaign.. then cool, take it and become one with your ancestors
Consume Spell turns Scorching Ray into Senzu Beam
A few questions I am listening while working is effortless con really once per day?
Does meta magic master say once per turn?
And can you use echo spell on a echoed spell for endless casting of 4th level fireballs?
Energetic Resonance doesn't have a duration, and it doesn't say you gain resistance against the triggering effect, just that you gain resistance. Am I wrong in thinking that RAW that means its permanent? Lol
Where is the bloodlines Video?
Ancestral blood magic:
Perhaps those feats came before ancestral blood magic? In that case it might be level 1 so you can have it when the ancestry feats that give you leveled spells are available.
One interesting thing about Bespell Weapon is it says "most recent action"
RAW this means if you ended your turn with a spell, you can use BW next turn and attack without MAP
Devs clarified that "most recent action" effects only apply to actions taken on the same turn.
@@rationlesspersona did they? It's just strange how BW just says "most recent action", while some other abilities specifically say "most recent action this turn". For example, great white shark's Savage ability states exactly that
A typo then? Was it officially errated?
@@nolanstrife7350 You can watch the "Ask a Paizo Designer #16" video on How It's Played
@@rationlesspersona yeah, I just checked it
A shame. Would be great on Fighter/Sorcerer or Magus/Sorcerer if that was the case
So, here’s the question: If I as a GM were to replace Signature Spell with the ability to heighten every spell in your repetoire, would that be wise? Would that be helping out sorcerers or just make them busted?
Then you would have more of a prepared caster.
Part of the appeal to casters being prepared/spontanous is the difference: prepared casters know much more spells, but have to do some thinking as to which spells they'll need each day.
Spontanous casters know less spells, but are, well, more spontanous in what they can cast.
With your replacement, you would have a kind of prepared caster, who knows even less spells than a With for example. Propably not the wisest decision.
probably make them busted, they already got the highest number of spell slots per day - increasing their flexibility that much would make any other caster in the party feel really bad if you don't do smth similar there, like a wizard's only real edge over the sorcerer is the greater span of spells available to them, if sorcerers can freely heighten they will gain so much more in that area that it would be hard to find a way to give someone a reason to play a wizard.
The sorcereress at the end of your video looks offended that you never gave her a smash or pass rating. Don't be surprised if you wake up enfeebled.
*tosses a log on the fire of sacrifice*
I keep looking for your Bloodlines guide, and I'm not finding it. Has it not been released yet?
Coming out tomorrow in fact!
Don't you love it when arcane evolution is treated with the respect it deserves while the polymath bard is badmouthed for a spell that is practically the exact same thing?
Why I took Bloodline Mutation?
Because my Aasimar Angelic Sorcered became an actual Angel at Level 20 and that shit is cool as fuck.
Also Seoni is best girl don't @ me
Amiri would eat Seoni for breakfast.
@@Nonat1s She is quite a snack after all
Despite the low amounts of feat options, its still more then what is available for a D&D 5th edition sorcerer to utilize... :-P
also metamagic mastery allow you to metamagic and cast a 3 accion spell
he didnt link bloodlines in the description
AFAIK bloodline evolution doesn't get dispelled so you can be knocked out of the air with the fly spell being dispelled/ Plus my gobbo wants his dragon wings
Wouldn't metamagic mastery allow you to stack metamagic? Three different metamagics all applied at once on a 2-action spell could be cool?
No, because metamagic requires your next action to be Cast a Spell. So if you use another metamagic feat, it cancels out the previous one. Its a free action, but the metamagic trait specifically calls out free actions and reactions as breaking the link.
@@PlatonicLiquid Ah. Thanks.
2:13 Technically, the Rogue is in the Core Rule Book and Eldritch Tricksters can use any tradition... I know, I know: its a technicality due to the subclass rules being in the APG, but I had to mention it.
The idea of using bloodline conduct and casting wall of stone over and over to build structures. Edit typo wall.
"Why does that man keep stabbing himself in the foot?"
"He's building a house, son."
One thing that bugs me about spellcasters in 2E is that they progress their spellcasting DC two levels lower than anyone else progresses their 'the thing'. All spellcasters get Legendary Spellcasting at level 19, while anyone else who get's Legendary anything, armor, weapons, abilities, whatever, tend to get it at lvl 17. That's the same difference for each rank.
Add in that you can increase armor or weapons with magic (+1, +2, etc), but AFAIK you can't increase your spell DC with magic items, and I see spellcasters consistently running 2, 3, or 4 points lower for their 'accuracy' compared to other characters. Add in that spells are a finite resource and this hurts.
Still waiting on that wizard 101, think of the puns!
your level or spell level is a pretty big difference. Your level means that ray of frost ignores 20 resist.
It might be level 1 because it isn’t good enough to complete for a higher level feat. That, or future proofing.
Blodline conduit require the spell to NOT have a duration, so no fly
Trueeeee. Missed that part. Still doesn't change my opinion of Mutation though, lol
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14:51 stares... Just use a shield not the spell. The actually shield if you want a +2. That's all I was yelling in my head seeing that.
I love sorcerer, but they’re just incredibly underwhelming in the class feat department below 10th level.
36:48 I don't think you can nonat, doesn't that spell have a duration.
@nonat1s But notnat, Blood conduit requires it have no duration. So you can not cast fly in this way. Which means if you always want fly active that bloodline mutation is better for this reason. But some blood lines give fly right? (I will have to check this later) It's still a niche feat, but you can't keep re casting fly for free or resist engery since I think they have a duration to it.
who the hell is cody?
I think you've confused Nonat with Cody from Taking20...idk his name might be Cody too, but that's certainly not common public information