I would hope so with only 200k. I've had 5.3 LS gas engines go 350k miles easily. If a diesel can't go atleast 400k before anything big needing replaced than that engine is junk
@michealortiz3350 Those 5.3 LS engines are bulletproof. Unfortunately, the EPA has destroyed the reliability of both gas and diesel engines. My sisters 2015 Sierra with the 5.3 ecotec started having cam issues at only 150k.
The young man doing the Tear Down knows what’s up never got aggravated nothing.. That’s my biggest set back when I work on my own shit.. I gt pissed off at all the lil stuff.. Lol Great job sir
I worked in the diesel turbo/injectors reman industry and let me tell you those Holset turbos (Cummins) are so complex not just how they function but with what is needed to reinstall one properly. Really opened my eyes on how complex new diesels are.
@@nathanurick8320 lack of maintenance, not using a diesel like a diesel is supposed to be used, just sitting around idling all day, those are all things that could have made this engine fail sooner than it should have
This young man knows how to pull apart. You have to be a super Tech to work on these vehicles in 2024. I would like to see him put it all back together. U all keep up the good hard humble work !
Happens in sports too. Saw a guy peel the skin off his ring finger playing basketball. Got caught in the net. He walked around with that finger grafted into his stomach area for about a month.
I told the wife the day we got married I wasn’t going to wear the ring being a truck and coach tech. Told her I didn’t want to weld it to my finger from shorting it out on a battery or whatever. She understood. Now that I’m a supervisor I can wear it. She’s happy now.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing when I saw not one but 2 rings on Alejandro's hand. Take them off at work at least! Get a ring tattooed on the ring finger if you're married & want it known. 💍 🚫 👍🏻👌🏻🛠️🔧🔩🤔 Also - @ Z-bart that's crazy! Like he actually had the skinless finger stiched inside the skin on his stomach?! Wow! That's some crazy sh!t right there! 😱😬🤦🏻♂️ ✊🏻🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲✊🏻
Modern day trucks cant seem to go 300K anymore. Our grandfathers couldn't imagine having to remove the cab for anything other than a frame replacement.
My 2019 Powerstroke with 316,000 trouble-free Miles with disagree with you. Removing the cab to work on these trucks is a feature not a bug. Just so much easier
I observed the same thing, and I like it! He knows enough about this work to understand it's better to have the swivel, as it will not impede any straight-on operations. This means he'll spend more time [dis]assembling and less time trying to get the right socket, or find a breaker bar or universal, etc.
Want to see more of Alejandro, and more of this truck, this was a great episode, would like to see what the customer wants to do with it. More Alejandro he's an awesome technician!!
If I ever had any kind of problem with my truck I would drive the distance to have you guys work on it.. you guys are awesome!! Thank you for being top notch mechanics !
You are quite special, aren't you? Do you think this is the only good shop out there? I can guarantee you there are many shops that are at the same level or better running at a more reasonable rate. There is only so much value they will give you for the cost of the job. This is no different than someone fixing your refrigerator. Both are tools and have a job to do. Are you going to spend over 75% of your refrigerator worth to get one part fixed? I can't speak for you, but that would be a very stupid thing to do.
Pulling the cab to access the engines today just adds more labor cost to the repair bill. These new engines are so complex with emissions and all their components. If I had an engine to go at 85k miles I would be furious.
@@bryandepiazzy8679 he's right about the emissions and 85k miles. emissions are killing diesels, and 85k miles in NOT enough of a lifetime for engines that expensive. a diesel these days should go 500k with minimal repairs, gas easily 300k
no it doesnt, pulling the cab it simplifies manufacturing and repair,, far easier to service the engine with the cab removed. But yea theres too much BS on diesels makes them less reliable because of greater complexity
Agree on the diesel bit, the regulations and needlessly complex engineering at times have killed their longevity. But regarding the cab, these guys do engine replacements day and night. They have the tools to do it with much less effort compared to most other shops. Also, the guys working on it, they do it week in and week out. Not once in 6 months - which is what small shops would do.
I've done some different repairs on the diesels 6.7 5.9 etc and I couldn't imagine pulling a engine with out the cab it can be done I'm sure but when your crawling all over the truck and your head deep in the engine bay it's just as easy to pull the cab and save time
You know Dave every time I want to hear videos pops up on my telephone this Diesel industry seemed to begin to be catastrophically expensive . Just the opposite of what diesels word designed to do,,, you can buy an awful lot of gasoline for $50,000
@@ExternalInputs Diesel is $1.00 a gallon more expensive than gas here in communist CT. That adds up over the life of a truck. I still keep my 1995 Dodge 2500 4x4 6BT just because I can work on any aspect of that motor and am not tied to a shop that charged $150.00 an hour.
Same with my 99 7.3, worst case scenario I drop a new crate longblock for 12k in it, and have a just about new truck. Zf6 & manual t case best of both worlds. Not to mentiona no DEF bs!
My 81 vw rabbit pickup with a 1.9tdi swap gets 75mpg And has better power to weight than either of you. And I still have a 6’ bed. Long 5th gear the power band doesn’t START in top gear til 70mph top speed is 135mph at least. And the engine had 300,000miles.. when it was 10yo in 2009.
97 f150 here. Not pretty by any means (and honestly it’s the ugliest vehicle Ford has ever conjured up) but even with 315K on the odometer, with the original engine and transmission, it’s still going down the road.
Impressed by the young man. Very creative. Many hate swivels but only a few can handle them. I’m even more impressed at the tool quality and quantity he possesses. I had maybe half the setup and 3 different tool trucks took my money for yrs.
I’m very curious why this truck didn’t go to the dealer for a free engine replacement it’s a 21 with 80,000 miles I’ve see this failure many times on the 5th gen’s where they are dropping valve seats and grenade the engine. Warranty on these trucks for engines is 5 years 100k miles so this is a very strange one. Would love to hear why it wasn’t sent to the dealer.
When I went to work at a power plant. I took my rings off. My wife was upset. I went online and showed her what happened to other people who thought wear rings was important and because the old lady was throwing a fit. She never said anything else about the matter. I've never worn a ring ever since.
Yep I saw a nasty safety video about this when I started working in manufacturing about 20+ years ago. That training video was all I needed to see to not even go to work with my ring on 😂
There is now way a that engine should cost $50,000 I worked for Dodge in 2006-2011 and a Diesel engine then was $15,000, if it is $50 cost's are getting ridiculous
Always wear gloves the oil and other contaminants over time will give you health issues. I’ve torn down many engines and they were brand new being assembled and we always put gloves on.
@@danieljohnson4418 It actually is great advice, and you're not a "Karen" for caring about others. It's a simple thing to do, but it makes a difference long term. You certainly don't need *_more_* toxins entering your system considering how toxic just a regular home environment is these days. Toxic homes, toxic food, toxic clothes, toxic hygiene products, toxic cosmetica... you name it, and it's most likely toxic. Petroleum products are definitely no exception to this.
My dad owns a body shop and my mother warned him over and over to always use an approved mask when not in the paint. Once you leave the office get in a habit of throwing on the mask because of dust and fumes. At only 52 yr old he is on oxygen due to copd and 35 yrs of dust.
I like Alejandro content. It's nice seeing a young man develop in a blue-collar industry. Getting down and dirty. Everyone now a days wants to work remotely behind a computer screen.
only 85,000 miles?, those trucks have a 100,000 mile powertrain warranty from Ram, the owner should have taken this truck to his Ram dealer and let the warranty pay for it.
When i found out I was having to return to the office in Denver, I took this as an oppurtunity to buy a car I have had a fascination with for a long time - a diesel VW. Sure, you can get the CJAA 2.0 CR TDIs on the cheap now post dieselgate, but between the DPFs cracking, the CP4s grenading, it had me looking older. Sure, there are horror stories about the BEW TDIs eating camshafts, but I got lucky - body is a little beat up, interior is on the dirty side, but the previous owner maintained it well, the motor is healthy (my diesel tech buddy could tell right off the bat it was healthy as hell, no funny noises, no injector imbalance), it just needed some love (and a transmission but that is a different story). Thing routinely returns 40mpg+, and I am confident that it will make 300k or more, and I have more faith in it than some of these other engines.
If you're not making money towing shit with it, stop buying diesel. This 5500 is obviously a work truck that was abused, but the number of dudes blowing up their engines hauling a boat a few times a year because they want to climb a hill in the left lane vs just slowing down is ridiculous.
Alejandro is a good representation of what immigrants do for our country. He is a excellent worker works hard. Does a good job. Immigrants built our country and some people are too obtuse to see that. I was a machinist for 40 years and worked on a lot of stuff I never wore rings, and it saved my fingers several times. Alejandro is an asset to your company.
You’re assuming Americans can’t be of non white skin color. Alejandro could be American born. You are deeply racist. Am I from Africa because I’m black? I’m an American. You’re racist.
I've done some work on my 2018 Civic, and while it's getting more familiar and more simple..... I couldn't imagine taking something like this apart without step by step instructions.
Because the owner of the truck does NOT want the same garbage engine under the hood. I'd want it bullet-proofed also, if it were mine. I would NOT want to go thru this again in another 80k miles, when a diesel SHOULD easily go 300k+ Down time for a work truck COSTS companies money. 💸
This is why Gas powered trucks are King, the MPG you thought you saved plus diesel engine costing five times more than gas.😢 Older diesels, so much better. Going backwards in engineering efficiency…
@@peckerpeter2078 To each is own... Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. No disrespect but Gas powered trucks are king? The ONLY reason diesels are in any way unreliable ( which in general, they are reliable.) Federal emissions regulations (BS). Adding EGR coolers, DEF systems and bull after bull. Throw out all that ridiculous crap and they are far far far and away the best choice between gas and diesel. If not for gov trying to make them unrealistically emissions friendly, electric vehicles wouldn't be all the rage. Even if you just look at it from an investment perspective.... A diesel truck retains their value exponentially compared to gasoline powered trucks. You prefer gas to diesel and that's cool. Gas engine is king???? 😬😬
Can't do preventative maintenance on new vehicles. Used to be that 2 people could buy the exact same vehicle. One person keep up with power train, drivetrain etc.. clean fluid, clean filters and on and on. The other person just not do anything but drive it. Person one keeps theirs for 20-25 years...person 2 has to junk theirs in no time. Now, everything is sealed and you can try to take care of the vehicle and someone else dog theirs.... Who knows which one is junk first. They are built to throw away these days
As a shadetree wrench turner (not even classified as a mechanic), I owned one vehicle that had a diesel engine that had over 300k mile on it and it was just worn out (naturally aerated). I owned another gas car that, at some point was just overturned. I did short block replacements on both. I have never, ever seen an engine just, "stopped while at idle." Someone on the jobsite took this truck out for a joyride and sold the boss a load of crap promising that there was a pony in the middle.
nah, they just dont care about the engines and literally run them until they stop. im sure there was some sort of ticking or other noise that should've been fixed sooner and they just blew off because it wasnt theirs
'20 Ram 1500 with a new engine, 1,500 miles on it, and the #3 cylinder is toast too. Still sitting in the shop, now the 4th week. Under warranty, sure. But talk about a pain the arse.
Emissions killed any value diesels had in the areas of longevity and fuel economy. I’ve got a high mileage 6.7 with very few problems since I’ve owned it… but if I was buying something today, I’d probably just buy ford with the Godzilla 7.3 gasser
Hey Dave, At 12:00-12:30 the hoist that is being used has a bad safety clip in the hook(hook latch) the chain being used is a bit too big as the hook latch wouldn't be effective even if it was not damaged. Just letting you know so the guys would stay safe.
I hope the discovery channel is not having any influence on the dramatic music. We all appreciate good diagnosis and professional mechanics you are. Your viewership was built without being dramatic and all the dramatic music. Please keep it that way.
The E Norm Us diesel repair cost here is good reason large gas engines are best for non commercial power needs. Ford's 7.3 gas Godzilla is good example
For energy requirements, a diesel doesn't have as many restrictions on it as a vehicle engine. For a generator, air compressor, industrial applications, or whatever, a diesel is still the best option.
@@davelowets Mass production Nuclear power plants will be realized as only viable 24/7 lektrik source as Yuge A.I. power demands max out current availability , eh.
There are several hundred thousand of these newer CGI block, roller lifter cam Cummins 6.7s out there on the road and we see a few dozen videos and another few dozen stories on the forums of different failures and everyone screams about how bad they are. Not many people will go to a forum to talk about their success with one. If these engines had a fundamental design flaw, we would surely see way more advertised problems on TH-cam and the forums. I'm running a '19 S.O. myself and so far have over 70k miles completely trouble free. I'm not worried. '22s may have had some supplier issues but if the engines had a design issue, all years would be failing. Plenty of high mileage late model engines out in the wild. Covid unfortunately brought some crap. I suspect poorly heat treated valves. This is a cab & chassis so they use a completely different head vs pickups.
The simple fact is that these failures weren’t happening before the 2019 changes. CGI blocks can be plenty strong, but whatever processes and combination of other changes Cummins made is not working. The original pickup version of the 6.7 ran for over 10 years and a catastrophic failure was very rare.
@jeffs2809 What failures? This valve issue shown here? Search for cab & chassis valve seat issues and you'll find they had issues dating back to the 4th gens. I don't think we will ever know the true failure rate of these newer engines but there is probably more than half a million units out there and you read about a few dozen failures.
@ cam & lifters. One TH-camr that runs/ran a fleet of Cummins Ram pickups for hotshotting has reported multiple engine failures. Window in the block type of failures. Another TH-camr interviewed a Ram mechanic that claimed he was seeing several failures, I believe mostly cam/lifter related. Very simply, theres millions of pre-2019 Ram 6.7’s out there, with a LOT of miles on them that aren’t showing the failure reports that are being seen on the newer ones with less mileage. In short, I’ll be hanging on to my 2017 Cummins with 105,000 miles for a LONG time.
Had one of these trucks come in the other day. Low boost codes. Owner had replaced turbo. Cleaned intercooler. Replaced turbo tube connnectors. Still getting low boost code. I pulled off the intake horn and the grid heater was almost completely stopped up with soot. Emissions is killing these engines prematurely. From having to eat their own exaust. Theres a engine builder her local. He wont touch the 5th gen blocks.
Or put them right back into the holes they came out of, OR the part that the bolts went thru.... I do this 100% of the time, and NEVER lose track of them or where they go.
Sisters oregon has a fuel station that let their tanks get super rusty. Its taken out several trucks. Place is getting sued cause everyone fuel systems are grenading the motors.
Or the customer just doesn't want another time bomb under the hood... Down time costs MONEY for a fleet truck. 💸 I, myself, would want it bullet-proofed after a failure like this at 80k, NOT wanting to look forward to this again in another 80k miles.
I love your videos. Always interesting and informative. Love to know the outcome of this story. I've been hearing / reading a lot of negative stories on the Cummins engine lately.
@@mph5896the major problem with the Diesels nowadays is that people buy them and don't use them like a diesel is supposed to be used. These motors work like a champ, but people use them for grocery Getters and then wonder why they don't last
@@Toddstjohn Except that's not what happened with this truck. This truck was being used in a heavy duty application and still failed. The REAL issue is all the emissions garbage on modern diesels and sometimes the injectors. Good fuel filter replacements, deleting emissions components (not always possible I understand), regular oil changes with a quality filter and good quality diesel fuel are mandatory these days.
If this video’s title implies this repair costs $50,000, then I gotta tip my hat to you Dave’s Auto Center. As one who’s wrenched on almost everything, from old to new and from foreign or domestic, AND as one who ran my own car repair business, AND is around Dave’s age, there’s absolutely no way I’d pay $50,000 for what I just watched. Maybe there’s more to this repair, like in another video? Not sure. But, if you can get customers to pay that, more power to you. I commend you for that. All I know is that if that were my truck, I’d sell that truck since the repair exceeds its value.
If the long block is 23k then you have to include a new turbo since there is metal everywhere. The dealer will sell you that for about 6-7k. A fuel system alone is like 8k-12k plus all fluids and labor. It will easily get to 50k
So, how does the intercooler and intake get metal with an internal engine failure? I could maybe see a little finding its way thru the egr cooler & into the intake, even though that sounds like a bit of a stretch. I really can’t see the intercooler getting contaminated, unless turbo also failed. The “clean” side going to the intercooler didn’t look all that great to me.
This technician is a one man gang operation. The amount of work that goes into this type of job is unbelievable. High respect Alejandro.
Hopefully he gets paid well.
Agreed
Imagine memorize all bolts and put back together😳
@@gmerola2652 I don't think he has to do that because of service data
He's native American
Not Alejandro’s first rodeo. Very clean work. 👏 👏
Alejandro looks like a seasoned professional. Dave's Auto Center is in very good hands! 🙏💗
These new motors are so incredibly complex. You guys do amazing work.
Thank you very much!
Well when you charge double or triple what other shops charge id expect good work.
Not really. The basic guts of the 6.7 haven't changed much at all since they came out in 2007.
complex ? you mean junk , over priced garbage
This makes me want to keep my 2010 3500 forever. 200k still going strong. No scr BS
Me with my 1999 Suburban with 390k on the oem original engine and transmission 😎
I would hope so with only 200k. I've had 5.3 LS gas engines go 350k miles easily. If a diesel can't go atleast 400k before anything big needing replaced than that engine is junk
@michealortiz3350 Those 5.3 LS engines are bulletproof. Unfortunately, the EPA has destroyed the reliability of both gas and diesel engines. My sisters 2015 Sierra with the 5.3 ecotec started having cam issues at only 150k.
@ my sister has one of the newer suburbans , it had to get a new engine as well after less than 120k
@ i try to comb classified ads and eBay keeping eye out for the iron block 5.3’s and 5.7’s , thank God there’s millions of them still out there.
The young man doing the Tear Down knows what’s up never got aggravated nothing.. That’s my biggest set back when I work on my own shit.. I gt pissed off at all the lil stuff.. Lol
Great job sir
I love your content but one suggestion is the music is not necessary and far too loud. Better quality without the drama music. IMHO
Agreed!!!
Freaking music,unwatchable
Boomer.
@@aramjudge5 NOT even close but a person with common sense and good taste.
mute the volume.. turn on cc closed captions.. prob solved.... IMHO... haha
I worked in the diesel turbo/injectors reman industry and let me tell you those Holset turbos (Cummins) are so complex not just how they function but with what is needed to reinstall one properly.
Really opened my eyes on how complex new diesels are.
I don't even call them diesels anymore.
Today's diesels are garbage when compared to the older ones.
It’s shocking how many problems these modern cars are having. Considering the cost.
It’s a shame
yep. instead of impressively complex, they are needlessly complicated
Most of the time when these engines fail it is user error
@ Todd you may have to explain that statement.
@@nathanurick8320 lack of maintenance, not using a diesel like a diesel is supposed to be used, just sitting around idling all day, those are all things that could have made this engine fail sooner than it should have
This young man knows how to pull apart. You have to be a super Tech to work on these vehicles in 2024. I would like to see him put it all back together. U all keep up the good hard humble work !
Shit anyone can pull the shit apart. It takes a real one to keep track of things and actually put it back together the RIGHT way
Watching this young man expertly disassemble this incredibly complicated engine make me miss my 68 Plymouth
What do you mean "incredibly complicated"? No more complicated that most modern engines. It's a diesel, not an F1 racing engine.
Word of advice for anyone working in any industry with tools electronics hoisting remove your rings I work with many guys with missing digits
Happens in sports too. Saw a guy peel the skin off his ring finger playing basketball. Got caught in the net. He walked around with that finger grafted into his stomach area for about a month.
I was shipping clerk caught wedding ring on truck door, ouch, took it off and never put it back on . I know I’m married, wife was not happy.
I told the wife the day we got married I wasn’t going to wear the ring being a truck and coach tech. Told her I didn’t want to weld it to my finger from shorting it out on a battery or whatever. She understood. Now that I’m a supervisor I can wear it. She’s happy now.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing when I saw not one but 2 rings on Alejandro's hand. Take them off at work at least! Get a ring tattooed on the ring finger if you're married & want it known. 💍 🚫 👍🏻👌🏻🛠️🔧🔩🤔
Also - @ Z-bart that's crazy! Like he actually had the skinless finger stiched inside the skin on his stomach?! Wow! That's some crazy sh!t right there! 😱😬🤦🏻♂️
✊🏻🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲✊🏻
Yup I was an Aircraft Technician Royal Australian Air Force, wearing and rings was an absolute no no.
Modern day trucks cant seem to go 300K anymore. Our grandfathers couldn't imagine having to remove the cab for anything other than a frame replacement.
My 2019 Powerstroke with 316,000 trouble-free Miles with disagree with you. Removing the cab to work on these trucks is a feature not a bug. Just so much easier
Our grandfathers drove gassers.
@@Toddstjohnhow
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Work the AC?
@@Toddstjohn 300k miles on a 5yo truck isn't nearly as impressive as 300k miles on a 20yo truck.
Bidenomics natzis climate communism change
My guy Alejandro pulling that motor sure does like his swivel sockets
Is there any other kind lol
I observed the same thing, and I like it!
He knows enough about this work to understand it's better to have the swivel, as it will not impede any straight-on operations. This means he'll spend more time [dis]assembling and less time trying to get the right socket, or find a breaker bar or universal, etc.
Who DOESN'T?? 🤷🏻
I bought some swivel sockets after watching TH-cam videos like this and now it’s all I use. They are very nice!
"It just stopped while it was idling", riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Could never
If it dropped a valve yeah it could. 2019 and up cummins have a lot of top end problems
Idling engines kills them
My 02 Duramax did. A 22 year old seal on the fuel system failed and started sucking air.
Want to see more of Alejandro, and more of this truck, this was a great episode, would like to see what the customer wants to do with it. More Alejandro he's an awesome technician!!
If I ever had any kind of problem with my truck I would drive the distance to have you guys work on it.. you guys are awesome!! Thank you for being top notch mechanics !
Thinking the same thing!
Wow, thanks!
You are quite special, aren't you? Do you think this is the only good shop out there? I can guarantee you there are many shops that are at the same level or better running at a more reasonable rate. There is only so much value they will give you for the cost of the job. This is no different than someone fixing your refrigerator. Both are tools and have a job to do. Are you going to spend over 75% of your refrigerator worth to get one part fixed? I can't speak for you, but that would be a very stupid thing to do.
@@mikemiller9119 I guess all the people that get there vehicles serviced by them are special.. get lost Debbie Downer.
Mmm piston have disco party! Whole engine invited!
Glitter bomb
Pulling the cab to access the engines today just adds more labor cost to the repair bill. These new engines are so complex with emissions and all their components. If I had an engine to go at 85k miles I would be furious.
Opposite. It saves time and makes for removal easier
@@bryandepiazzy8679 he's right about the emissions and 85k miles. emissions are killing diesels, and 85k miles in NOT enough of a lifetime for engines that expensive. a diesel these days should go 500k with minimal repairs, gas easily 300k
no it doesnt, pulling the cab it simplifies manufacturing and repair,, far easier to service the engine with the cab removed.
But yea theres too much BS on diesels makes them less reliable because of greater complexity
Agree on the diesel bit, the regulations and needlessly complex engineering at times have killed their longevity.
But regarding the cab, these guys do engine replacements day and night. They have the tools to do it with much less effort compared to most other shops. Also, the guys working on it, they do it week in and week out. Not once in 6 months - which is what small shops would do.
I've done some different repairs on the diesels 6.7 5.9 etc and I couldn't imagine pulling a engine with out the cab it can be done I'm sure but when your crawling all over the truck and your head deep in the engine bay it's just as easy to pull the cab and save time
You know Dave every time I want to hear videos pops up on my telephone this Diesel industry seemed to begin to be catastrophically expensive . Just the opposite of what diesels word designed to do,,, you can buy an awful lot of gasoline for $50,000
And a big gasoline V8 carrying a heavy load will use an awful lot of gasoline.
@@ExternalInputsWho cares, when they outlast a diesel nowadays.... sad
@@ExternalInputs Diesel is $1.00 a gallon more expensive than gas here in communist CT. That adds up over the life of a truck. I still keep my 1995 Dodge 2500 4x4 6BT just because I can work on any aspect of that motor and am not tied to a shop that charged $150.00 an hour.
@@john-l3h3i Sure, but that's solely an issue in the northeast. Down south or out west you can usually get diesel pretty close to gas.
This is why I keep my 92 Silverado. She still purring like a Kitten!
Same with my 99 7.3, worst case scenario I drop a new crate longblock for 12k in it, and have a just about new truck. Zf6 & manual t case best of both worlds. Not to mentiona no DEF bs!
My 81 vw rabbit pickup with a 1.9tdi swap gets 75mpg
And has better power to weight than either of you.
And I still have a 6’ bed.
Long 5th gear the power band doesn’t START in top gear til 70mph
top speed is 135mph at least.
And the engine had 300,000miles.. when it was 10yo in 2009.
97 f150 here. Not pretty by any means (and honestly it’s the ugliest vehicle Ford has ever conjured up) but even with 315K on the odometer, with the original engine and transmission, it’s still going down the road.
Same with my 05 Sierra. Also Purrs like a kitten and tows like a freight train. 😅
same here. 1999 Dodge Ram 2500 cummins turbo diesel. 210,000 miles. Factory no cat. no def. purring like a kitten.
Impressed by the young man. Very creative. Many hate swivels but only a few can handle them.
I’m even more impressed at the tool quality and quantity he possesses. I had maybe half the setup and 3 different tool trucks took my money for yrs.
Who hates them? I LOVE them....
Swivels take so much away from impacts power. I dont really use them much unless I really cant get to something.
The owner gives all of his employees a 20k tool cart when they start working for him
@@coltheesacker5656really? Unless you need one? I always use four swivels in-line because they are so pretty!
@@JuliusIrving-c7jnot true :/
If I wanted it fixed right I would bring it here. Dave's legit.
WOW!!! Looks worse than the grid heater failure. Will look for the next segment. Thank you guys.
Mad respect to Alejandro. I am looking at this thinking about the absolute panic attack this induces...
Alejandro.... no problem.
I want to see how you guys keep all those parts, bolts, and nuts organized. Fascinating.
I’m very curious why this truck didn’t go to the dealer for a free engine replacement it’s a 21 with 80,000 miles I’ve see this failure many times on the 5th gen’s where they are dropping valve seats and grenade the engine. Warranty on these trucks for engines is 5 years 100k miles so this is a very strange one. Would love to hear why it wasn’t sent to the dealer.
Yes, same here. Why wasn’t it covered under warranty?
Of i had to guess, it's probably because it's a fleet truck, and the warranty on fleet vehicles is not the same as a regular single owner one's
@@trevorgsell1827Yepper… private vs commercial use… changes everything
@@trevorgsell1827it is for ford, or at least is was when I worked for dealer.
Could be it was deleted, so there is no warranty coverage.
Working on a car while wearing rings is a recipe for a degloving.
No metal rings in any mechanical work shop is OSHA requirement
When I went to work at a power plant. I took my rings off.
My wife was upset.
I went online and showed her what happened to other people who thought wear rings was important and because the old lady was throwing a fit.
She never said anything else about the matter. I've never worn a ring ever since.
Yea I lost half my thumb.
If I had a ring on it might have been degloved😮
Yep I saw a nasty safety video about this when I started working in manufacturing about 20+ years ago. That training video was all I needed to see to not even go to work with my ring on 😂
My ex complained about not wearing the ring. I told her I never wore rings or any loose jewelry before we got married... still have all my fingers.
There is now way a that engine should cost $50,000 I worked for Dodge in 2006-2011 and a Diesel engine then was $15,000, if it is $50 cost's are getting ridiculous
Agreed Im not taking anything away from the shop but im trying to figure how we are at 50k
That's the price of the truck.
@@Taydrum Try double that new.
NO, it should NOT. I can get a brand new 1000h.p. race engine for $50k... 🤔
Price mark up has to be accounted for. No profitable Shop is going to sell you a motor for what they get it at and operate off of labor alone.
Always wear gloves the oil and other contaminants over time will give you health issues. I’ve torn down many engines and they were brand new being assembled and we always put gloves on.
Great advice, Karen.
@@danieljohnson4418 It actually is great advice, and you're not a "Karen" for caring about others. It's a simple thing to do, but it makes a difference long term. You certainly don't need *_more_* toxins entering your system considering how toxic just a regular home environment is these days. Toxic homes, toxic food, toxic clothes, toxic hygiene products, toxic cosmetica... you name it, and it's most likely toxic. Petroleum products are definitely no exception to this.
My dad owns a body shop and my mother warned him over and over to always use an approved mask when not in the paint. Once you leave the office get in a habit of throwing on the mask because of dust and fumes. At only 52 yr old he is on oxygen due to copd and 35 yrs of dust.
The Mechanic Is Doing A.Greate Job !
I like Alejandro content. It's nice seeing a young man develop in a blue-collar industry. Getting down and dirty. Everyone now a days wants to work remotely behind a computer screen.
I prefer to work remotely underneath a lush green canopy
Not everybody bout the blue collar life just like Not everybody bout the white collar life
only 85,000 miles?, those trucks have a 100,000 mile powertrain warranty from Ram, the owner should have taken this truck to his Ram dealer and let the warranty pay for it.
I suppose he wanted it done correctly.
good tech. keep safe. eye protection,no rings ,gloves
When i found out I was having to return to the office in Denver, I took this as an oppurtunity to buy a car I have had a fascination with for a long time - a diesel VW.
Sure, you can get the CJAA 2.0 CR TDIs on the cheap now post dieselgate, but between the DPFs cracking, the CP4s grenading, it had me looking older.
Sure, there are horror stories about the BEW TDIs eating camshafts, but I got lucky - body is a little beat up, interior is on the dirty side, but the previous owner maintained it well, the motor is healthy (my diesel tech buddy could tell right off the bat it was healthy as hell, no funny noises, no injector imbalance), it just needed some love (and a transmission but that is a different story). Thing routinely returns 40mpg+, and I am confident that it will make 300k or more, and I have more faith in it than some of these other engines.
What do you do for a living? Or industry?
The way you write which is well, is making me curious.
And do you like what you do?
Your great opportunity however, is only available to few.
To quote Eric O, "Well, there's your problem, lady"
Alejandro is like Indiana Jones with this find. The top of that piston looks more like something from an archeology dig than part of a modern engine.
Honey wake up, a new Dave's Auto Center vid just dropped !
So did the valve!
50 grand used to buy a whole new truck and it wasn't that long ago.
times change and 50K will still purchase a new pickup
@@davidporter7051 it most certainly will, tons of them for 50k or less
blame these billionaires yall keep- sucking up too lol duh they robbing yall blind and yall keep asking for more lmaooooo
its called normal inflation go look at prices and income in the 1960s lol
@ryen49 daft
If you're not making money towing shit with it, stop buying diesel. This 5500 is obviously a work truck that was abused, but the number of dudes blowing up their engines hauling a boat a few times a year because they want to climb a hill in the left lane vs just slowing down is ridiculous.
2021 and only 80K?
Great job Ram and Cummins. 🤨
And only 1 oil change per year= this.
You have no idea how this truck was driven and maintained! This was a work truck for employees. They could have bagged the absolute shit out of it.
@@AquaticLogic could have
but this aint the first
Probably idling all day and and poorly maintained.
I work my Cummins engines to the bone, but I maintain them very well, no engine issues at all.
@@ajs96350 It's from North Dakota, so yeah, lots of idling in the winter.
This is why I keep my 245,000 miles 2003 Toyota Tundra V6. 😂
I knew that we were due for a semi longform video. Thank you for the upload.
You bet!
Love this format of a video!
they sure dont make them like they use too and thats with everything in this world
Thanks!
Alejandro is a good representation of what immigrants do for our country. He is a excellent worker works hard. Does a good job. Immigrants built our country and some people are too obtuse to see that. I was a machinist for 40 years and worked on a lot of stuff I never wore rings, and it saved my fingers several times. Alejandro is an asset to your company.
That’s funny because I never saw him other than a hard working American working for one of the best shops in the world.
Stop the cope.
Piss off traitor
You’re assuming Americans can’t be of non white skin color. Alejandro could be American born. You are deeply racist. Am I from Africa because I’m black? I’m an American. You’re racist.
Looking forward to this one thanks Dave
Why did he not get it warranted? It has a five-year hundred thousand mile warranty on it. Thank you for all y’all do
Out of warranty👍
@@DavesAutoCenterCenterville The 2021 Ram Diesel engine warranty is 5 years, 100k. Not sure why you say it is out of warranty?
@@stananddiane Fleet
A good in depth diagnosis & teardown. Alejandro is on point
I've done some work on my 2018 Civic, and while it's getting more familiar and more simple..... I couldn't imagine taking something like this apart without step by step instructions.
A civic is a tinker toy compared to one of these
Experience brother. Dont forget the editing.
World class Dave, really is amazing knowledge and skills. Not many left these days like this
Why are you working on a 21 w 85k. Isn’t it still under 5/100 warranty?
Because the owner of the truck does NOT want the same garbage engine under the hood.
I'd want it bullet-proofed also, if it were mine.
I would NOT want to go thru this again in another 80k miles, when a diesel SHOULD easily go 300k+
Down time for a work truck COSTS companies money. 💸
Great video! Really noticing the quality and entertainment value improving! I'd love to see the build on this one. Keep up the good work!
Not only will it cost you 100k to buy the truck, if you need to rebuild the engine it will cost you 100k too! Exquisite.
This is why Gas powered trucks are King, the MPG you thought you saved plus diesel engine costing five times more than gas.😢 Older diesels, so much better.
Going backwards in engineering efficiency…
In all fairness, it DID have 86,000 miles...... /s
@@peckerpeter2078 To each is own... Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. No disrespect but Gas powered trucks are king? The ONLY reason diesels are in any way unreliable ( which in general, they are reliable.) Federal emissions regulations (BS). Adding EGR coolers, DEF systems and bull after bull. Throw out all that ridiculous crap and they are far far far and away the best choice between gas and diesel. If not for gov trying to make them unrealistically emissions friendly, electric vehicles wouldn't be all the rage. Even if you just look at it from an investment perspective.... A diesel truck retains their value exponentially compared to gasoline powered trucks. You prefer gas to diesel and that's cool. Gas engine is king???? 😬😬
The truck market across the board, gas and diesel, is upside down. None of them are affordable or worth what the sticker says
Can't do preventative maintenance on new vehicles. Used to be that 2 people could buy the exact same vehicle. One person keep up with power train, drivetrain etc.. clean fluid, clean filters and on and on. The other person just not do anything but drive it. Person one keeps theirs for 20-25 years...person 2 has to junk theirs in no time. Now, everything is sealed and you can try to take care of the vehicle and someone else dog theirs.... Who knows which one is junk first. They are built to throw away these days
I am always amazed at how these guys know how to put these engines back together.
As a shadetree wrench turner (not even classified as a mechanic), I owned one vehicle that had a diesel engine that had over 300k mile on it and it was just worn out (naturally aerated). I owned another gas car that, at some point was just overturned. I did short block replacements on both. I have never, ever seen an engine just, "stopped while at idle." Someone on the jobsite took this truck out for a joyride and sold the boss a load of crap promising that there was a pony in the middle.
nah, they just dont care about the engines and literally run them until they stop. im sure there was some sort of ticking or other noise that should've been fixed sooner and they just blew off because it wasnt theirs
'20 Ram 1500 with a new engine, 1,500 miles on it, and the #3 cylinder is toast too. Still sitting in the shop, now the 4th week. Under warranty, sure. But talk about a pain the arse.
Emissions killed any value diesels had in the areas of longevity and fuel economy. I’ve got a high mileage 6.7 with very few problems since I’ve owned it… but if I was buying something today, I’d probably just buy ford with the Godzilla 7.3 gasser
Me too! I have a fully deleted 2008 6.7 with 450,000km. Runs awesome. But if I had to get a new truck. It would be a Godzilla.
Just need to drop a few parts and then they are amazing
@@AquaticLogic Don't get the 10 speed, they are dropping like flies.
Won’t be getting rid of my 89 Burb anytime soon 😂
I may not have the torque and horsepower but I’ll hold on to my 2000 5.9 Cummings.
What's a "Cummings"?
Hey Dave,
At 12:00-12:30 the hoist that is being used has a bad safety clip in the hook(hook latch) the chain being used is a bit too big as the hook latch wouldn't be effective even if it was not damaged. Just letting you know so the guys would stay safe.
What makes the cab and chassis motor more prone to dropping valve seats?
Was just about to ask the same thing.
Hotter under the hood...
Higher heat causes valve seats to fall out.
Cool guys
awesome to see young talent dissecting the issues.
Dave, for their own safety please don’t let your guys wear rings while working.
Yes, saw that
I hope the discovery channel is not having any influence on the dramatic music. We all appreciate good diagnosis and professional mechanics you are. Your viewership was built without being dramatic and all the dramatic music. Please keep it that way.
The E Norm Us diesel repair cost here is good reason large gas engines are best for non commercial power needs. Ford's 7.3 gas Godzilla is good example
For energy requirements, a diesel doesn't have as many restrictions on it as a vehicle engine. For a generator, air compressor, industrial applications, or whatever, a diesel is still the best option.
People don’t know how to drive , if they did they’d know that the 7.3 is all the engine they need.
@@davelowets Mass production Nuclear power plants will be realized as only viable 24/7 lektrik source as Yuge A.I. power demands max out current availability , eh.
That 80 series Land raiser next to that dodge…that’s the real deal.
There are several hundred thousand of these newer CGI block, roller lifter cam Cummins 6.7s out there on the road and we see a few dozen videos and another few dozen stories on the forums of different failures and everyone screams about how bad they are. Not many people will go to a forum to talk about their success with one. If these engines had a fundamental design flaw, we would surely see way more advertised problems on TH-cam and the forums. I'm running a '19 S.O. myself and so far have over 70k miles completely trouble free. I'm not worried. '22s may have had some supplier issues but if the engines had a design issue, all years would be failing. Plenty of high mileage late model engines out in the wild. Covid unfortunately brought some crap. I suspect poorly heat treated valves. This is a cab & chassis so they use a completely different head vs pickups.
Well the fact that Cummins is ditching the rollers with the updated engine that says it all
@firstlast--- Are they? Is that a fact? Please lead me to that press release.
The simple fact is that these failures weren’t happening before the 2019 changes. CGI blocks can be plenty strong, but whatever processes and combination of other changes Cummins made is not working. The original pickup version of the 6.7 ran for over 10 years and a catastrophic failure was very rare.
@jeffs2809 What failures? This valve issue shown here? Search for cab & chassis valve seat issues and you'll find they had issues dating back to the 4th gens. I don't think we will ever know the true failure rate of these newer engines but there is probably more than half a million units out there and you read about a few dozen failures.
@ cam & lifters. One TH-camr that runs/ran a fleet of Cummins Ram pickups for hotshotting has reported multiple engine failures. Window in the block type of failures. Another TH-camr interviewed a Ram mechanic that claimed he was seeing several failures, I believe mostly cam/lifter related.
Very simply, theres millions of pre-2019 Ram 6.7’s out there, with a LOT of miles on them that aren’t showing the failure reports that are being seen on the newer ones with less mileage. In short, I’ll be hanging on to my 2017 Cummins with 105,000 miles for a LONG time.
Had one of these trucks come in the other day. Low boost codes. Owner had replaced turbo. Cleaned intercooler. Replaced turbo tube connnectors. Still getting low boost code. I pulled off the intake horn and the grid heater was almost completely stopped up with soot. Emissions is killing these engines prematurely. From having to eat their own exaust. Theres a engine builder her local. He wont touch the 5th gen blocks.
Cummins are great motors for tradesmen that care about their stuff😂
Lifting the cab by the running boards is wild
The truck ain’t worth 50,000 😂
according to these dealerships they are 🥲
@ let me say the truck ain’t worth 50,000 to me 🤣
@@bladengutz2042 damn right it ain’t 😂
The dealers are to blame lol
It definitely ain’t worth 50k but they sure go for 50k. Dang rich people stinking up the market. I’ll stick with my 1999.
Love the suspenseful music while he is check the air con 😂
Roofer here, how do yall keep up with all the nuts and bolts and not lose one?!?
Lots of coffee cans and masking tape
Or put them right back into the holes they came out of, OR the part that the bolts went thru....
I do this 100% of the time, and NEVER lose track of them or where they go.
Another great episode. Can’t wait for the continuation. 👍🏽
Sisters oregon has a fuel station that let their tanks get super rusty. Its taken out several trucks. Place is getting sued cause everyone fuel systems are grenading the motors.
The fuel filters in their trucks are all faulty also??
I love these long videos. So much to observe.
50k dollars guess this is more expensive than rebuilding a Cummins X15
I like how Dave puts different people on each video🔥
I'm supprised its not a warranty claim
It should be, unless dealer found lack of maintenance or abuse as the culprit and Ram refused.
Or the customer just doesn't want another time bomb under the hood...
Down time costs MONEY for a fleet truck. 💸
I, myself, would want it bullet-proofed after a failure like this at 80k, NOT wanting to look forward to this again in another 80k miles.
@@davelowets its in the shop already and its downtime anyway + cost to fix it. how much do you think it cost to fix this out of pocket?
I love your videos. Always interesting and informative. Love to know the outcome of this story. I've been hearing / reading a lot of negative stories on the Cummins engine lately.
I am sticking to gas for the foreseeable future.
Yeah. If you can get away with gas , that’s the way to go
@@mph5896the major problem with the Diesels nowadays is that people buy them and don't use them like a diesel is supposed to be used. These motors work like a champ, but people use them for grocery Getters and then wonder why they don't last
@@Toddstjohn Except that's not what happened with this truck. This truck was being used in a heavy duty application and still failed. The REAL issue is all the emissions garbage on modern diesels and sometimes the injectors. Good fuel filter replacements, deleting emissions components (not always possible I understand), regular oil changes with a quality filter and good quality diesel fuel are mandatory these days.
@@IKhanNot so you heard them say that it was well maintained, used and used in such a fashion I don't remember hearing them say that
No it wasn't it sat and idled on a job site. I missed it but I'd guess it has over 10000 hours on it. @@IKhanNot
This was a great one, thanks.
Why are most of these comments critical of the process to remove this engine. Other than Alejandro's rings, i don't see an issue at all.
No gloves, no eye protection.
The rings are so dangerous
You’ve got a great crew Dave!
Might be cheaper ( for the Customer ) to Just order a Complete Motor from Dodge Dealership ?
Only 3 Years old - No Warranty ?
Probably over on milage
5 years/100,000 mi drivetrain warranty for Cummins engine from factory.
im sure dealer does everything they can to void the warranty.
@@Mill72 Don't think it applies to commercially registered vehicles.
Alejandro looks so young to be so skillful, respeto mi amigo!
I had not thought about recovering the air conditioning gas, good job to protect the environment.
its illegal if you get caught letting it into the atmosphere
Um it’s about protecting yourself too.
If I’m enclosed with toxic gas- I DARE u to try and keep me in there.
it's the Law ! Federal Law. $35,000 dollar fine if you Get caught venting to the atmosphere.
1234yf is expensive. Recover it and reuse it
@@fastinradfordableit's not that toxic for you, just the atmosphere.
Firepunk Diesel makes a head/engine puller for the Cummins. So much better than using chains!
I say either Chrysler-Ram or Cummins screwed up big time on the manufacturing of that engine. 🙂
Alejandro my man that's a real tech
Cummins should stop building the 5th Gen 6.7 motors with this many problems and go back to the flat tappet motors.
Thats actually a very good point! Was it a grid heater failure? I know it typically gets ingested on #6, but hey, its possible!
They need to do the right thing just like the CP4 and recall all of them
I also love your videos... but the music almost drowns your voice out... way too loud!
Is this shop in Gotham City? Could do without the dark knight music
If this video’s title implies this repair costs $50,000, then I gotta tip my hat to you Dave’s Auto Center. As one who’s wrenched on almost everything, from old to new and from foreign or domestic, AND as one who ran my own car repair business, AND is around Dave’s age, there’s absolutely no way I’d pay $50,000 for what I just watched. Maybe there’s more to this repair, like in another video? Not sure. But, if you can get customers to pay that, more power to you. I commend you for that. All I know is that if that were my truck, I’d sell that truck since the repair exceeds its value.
That truck costs MORE than you think it does...
How you get $50k from a $23k longblock and 1 day install?
If the long block is 23k then you have to include a new turbo since there is metal everywhere. The dealer will sell you that for about 6-7k. A fuel system alone is like 8k-12k plus all fluids and labor. It will easily get to 50k
@@tonychacon82 Someone is getting taken for a ride, no way it should be that much.
I could get all of that done for $20k max.
So, how does the intercooler and intake get metal with an internal engine failure? I could maybe see a little finding its way thru the egr cooler & into the intake, even though that sounds like a bit of a stretch. I really can’t see the intercooler getting contaminated, unless turbo also failed. The “clean” side going to the intercooler didn’t look all that great to me.
Not a single one of these new trucks are worth buying.
I really like watching the builds yall do