The "WILLY WONKA / SNOWPIERCER" Conspiracy PART 2

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  • @TravelerTucker
    @TravelerTucker ปีที่แล้ว +7335

    amazing how much effort you put into this. very proud, your mother and i will certainly be paying for another semester of college

    • @dd7896
      @dd7896 ปีที่แล้ว +346

      Please don't, he's spending all his time talking about tail cars.

    • @tanvirlslam718
      @tanvirlslam718 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Thank you for making it.

    • @RobertGordon811
      @RobertGordon811 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Daddy?

    • @drewcagno
      @drewcagno ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@RobertGordon811 hahahahahahahahaha

    • @johnsmoak8237
      @johnsmoak8237 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      What I would do to unironically achieve this has already been done.

  • @mdandrews
    @mdandrews ปีที่แล้ว +2726

    I swear to God that I just looked up Snowpiercer Wonka to rewatch your original video and saw this was uploaded an hour ago. That is honestly really creepy but super excited to watch this! I’m a firm believer now.

    • @doubleh3978
      @doubleh3978 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Man, what should i say? I swear i just discovered the first part yesterday. Today part 2 comes out after almost 5 years.
      Kinda sus but i apprectiate it.

    • @Herostatus1991
      @Herostatus1991 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same. here. 😱

    • @rogueskiss3794
      @rogueskiss3794 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Same! Love rewatching the original ever snow often haha (oh man!)
      But seriously! I'm excited to be watching part 2 ❤️

    • @Nathion-Gold
      @Nathion-Gold ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Omg yesss I was telling a friend about this today

    • @dunebuggy1292
      @dunebuggy1292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I did the same thing just now lmao!

  • @edogz8244
    @edogz8244 ปีที่แล้ว +855

    I hope to hell that the next part of this fantastic video essay doesn't take an additional four years to come out, its really amazing.

    • @liesalllies
      @liesalllies ปีที่แล้ว +18

      You can't rush greatness

    • @TristanAD_
      @TristanAD_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@liesalllies lies

    • @username5155
      @username5155 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@trentthe4th121You _can_ rush gratness, it just won’t be great anymore.

  • @AppleJackSix
    @AppleJackSix ปีที่แล้ว +362

    I saw Snowpiercer in theaters in the US completely by chance. I had nothing to do and decided to go see a movie. When I got there I looked at the wall of posters and saw one with Chris Evans in a hat, holding an axe, and the word “Snowpiercer”-like that was it, there were no other words or images. It was starting in a few minutes so I bought a ticket. I was alone, the theater was empty, and had no idea at all what the movie was going to be like. Surreal experience.

    • @RhinoStew
      @RhinoStew  ปีที่แล้ว +56

      See, this is why movie theaters rule

    • @Warlock_Sack
      @Warlock_Sack ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That actually sounds awesome. Cool experience.

    • @sithsquid1
      @sithsquid1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Reminds me a little of how I first watched The Terminator.

    • @DriscolDevil
      @DriscolDevil 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It is so great when you get to go into something blind. It's harder to do now, but those moments are great.

    • @DriscolDevil
      @DriscolDevil 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@sithsquid1I did too! Although I was a kid and it was on TV. I had seen clips of the sequels and wasn't expecting a strange sci-fi slasher movie.

  • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
    @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    It doesn’t matter to me if it is or isn’t. Your video already convinced me. I’m willing to die on the hill of Snowpiercer being a sequel to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

    • @m777howitzer4
      @m777howitzer4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You won't be alone✊🏽

    • @davemccombs
      @davemccombs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then you're dying on a lonely, shitty hill with only idiots on it.

    • @ElizabethT45
      @ElizabethT45 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I volunteer as flag-bearer.

    • @m777howitzer4
      @m777howitzer4 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ElizabethT45 Sapper🤚🏽

    • @silentshadow9983
      @silentshadow9983 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I volunteer to help fortify this hill

  • @thomaslechner4612
    @thomaslechner4612 ปีที่แล้ว +1482

    I wrote my 30 page final paper in school on Snowpiercer and I actually mentioned the first Wonkapiercer video in the introduction so it actually means a lot to me that you're expanding on this theory!

    • @RhinoStew
      @RhinoStew  ปีที่แล้ว +202

      I would love to read it! and possibly feature it in the next part. 2Kawaii4Comfort@gmail.com

    • @melonusk6120
      @melonusk6120 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      @@RhinoStew nice email address

    • @mysteryminx2619
      @mysteryminx2619 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      It's honestly brilliant. I'm so delighted to find "Snowpiercer" fans, I'll watch any 'train' movie, and I was demanding friends sit down and see it. I love this film, and now knowing its history and origin I love it even more. It wanted to be made, and it somehow knew how to find the ONE director who could let the Engine roll.

    • @thevexoffender8197
      @thevexoffender8197 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@RhinoStew it won’t be another 4 years till next part though?

    • @mendelevium2768
      @mendelevium2768 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would read that

  • @AntonVoyt
    @AntonVoyt ปีที่แล้ว +765

    00:03 Retrospect
    00:39 What if I told you... There is *_MORE?_*
    6:33 Why Snowpiercer is a sequel to Willi Wonka and a Chocolate Factory _Part 2!_
    10:31 Disclaimers
    *BOOK I- DEPARTURE*
    11:22 ䷄ Chapter 1: Birth of the Ratting Ark 1982.
    19:32 How Snowpiercer really happened.
    20:53 Exhibit A: L'Transpiercienage '77
    24:47 Exhibit B: Synopsis of L'Transpiercienage '82
    34:23 The Third authors Rouchette & Legrand 1996-2000
    35:53 Exhibit C: L'Arpenteur and La Traversée '99/'00
    38:25 The I Ching ䷄
    42:13 ䷊ Chapter 2: Convergence 1969-2012
    47:07 Disclaimers
    47:33 The Screw-Loose Mozart Bong Joon-Ho (봉준호)
    51:18 White Man- 1994
    52:40 Incoherence- 1994
    55:05 Barking Dogs Never Bite- 2000
    1:00:50 Into the Heart of Darkness (Memories of Murder- 2003)
    1:08:55 The Host- 2006
    1:13:01 Problems with the Synopsis Rhino Stew had
    1:16:36 The paper cut-out synopsis (GO WATCH THE FILM!!!!)
    1:24:37 The End of Synopsis
    1:29:29 Mother- 2009
    1:30:57 ䷥ Chapter 3: The Train That Eats Young 2013
    1:32:15 Snowpiercer- 2013
    1:41:08 The Screenwriter: Kelly Masterson
    1:43:37 Before The Devil Knows You're Dead (You should also watch it )
    1:48:12 Writing
    1:52:17 Filming Commences
    1:55:49 One final Obstacle before release (The Battle for the Battle of the Water Supply Section)
    2:00:06 The American Release of Snowpiercer was kinda Wild
    2:02:27 Did anybody really understand Snowpiercer
    2:04:12 and the story needs to be Straightforward
    2:09:14 Only Just Beginning
    2:11:14 To Be Continued...
    2:11:55 Break 1
    2:14:21 Present Day
    P.S.: So, of course, this is not a full and completely correct timestamp annotation to the video. The last 20 minutes I was too sleepy. And I will probably change and correct this tomorrow. If you have any propositions/corrections/additions write them down, I'll do my best to perfect them, but you could just have a better eye.
    To be clear, I think that these timestamps should not go to the video. I think just dividing video on ䷀ Chapters will be more then enough (with addition of spoiler parts for The Host). I was attempting to divide each chapter into story parts that constitute the chapters themselves. Also I will try to edit this whole mess to make it a bit prettier to look at (throw chapters into one section, then under each chapter write its different parts ect.).
    To Rhino: I never done anything like this before, but the beauty and passion that I felt from the very beginning just made me want to catalyze and structure this whole thing, just because (a) no-one did it, (b) this is probably the only thing I can contribute to this thing.
    Also I think that first 11 minutes of the video were its most expressive and entertaining part. That is not to say that the rest of the video was lacking, just that was the best part for me.
    And just a little thing. Divide this Behemoth of a video into 3 chapters as I proposed (not as I wrote, but I mean that you absolutely should divide this video into a smaller parts.)

    • @piggles8735
      @piggles8735 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      nice work!

    • @RhinoStew
      @RhinoStew  ปีที่แล้ว +92

      It is so cool to see it all laid out like this! The theater company that I worked for do a show where they did 30 short plays in 60 minutes and was a big inspiration so it's neat to see this all extrapolated like a menu.

    • @RhinoStew
      @RhinoStew  ปีที่แล้ว +75

      Also I think video games were a big influence. Like how some games contain "high quality" cutscene with low quality ones. I'm really glad you liked the first then! I thought it was important to start the project off with a bang

    • @AntonVoyt
      @AntonVoyt ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It certainly was. Not only does it lays in from of the watcher short summary, or how I was taught "A literature plan of an art piece" (not sure how it is in English) of your future exploration of this topic and intrigues viewers with tit bits of information, that I guess will be crucial to the overall story you are trying to tell, but also the best, for a lack of a better word (in my vocabulary), Lure, for an average essay enjoyer. Not even to mention, that this might be a pretty good retention catcher, for this big of a project.
      At first I thought that this will be a pretty normal essay with some high level camera work, but I woefully underestimated You.

    • @fennten8338
      @fennten8338 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      total legend thank you

  • @bulldogblast1945
    @bulldogblast1945 ปีที่แล้ว +1366

    WE DID IT BOYS!!!!!!! PART 2 IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING!!!!!!

    • @chile_en_nogada2090
      @chile_en_nogada2090 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      And.... It wasnt worth it!

    • @bulldogblast1945
      @bulldogblast1945 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@chile_en_nogada2090 this is only part 2 of FIVE, THERES GOING TO BE 4 MORE VIDEOS

    • @chile_en_nogada2090
      @chile_en_nogada2090 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bulldogblast1945 you mean 3 more??

    • @bulldogblast1945
      @bulldogblast1945 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@chile_en_nogada2090 nope, 4 more parts, it’ll be 6 parts in total

    • @chile_en_nogada2090
      @chile_en_nogada2090 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bulldogblast1945 damn thts crazy. Ill have to finish the episode

  • @IanWagner94
    @IanWagner94 ปีที่แล้ว +858

    Its intriguing that this is less of a theory video and really more of a love letter to Bong Joon-ho and a history class on Hollywood, Cinema and Monetization of culture. Really well done. Outstanding video. Thank you very much for all the work put on this!

    • @Jeff-zi1jc
      @Jeff-zi1jc ปีที่แล้ว +62

      It's exactly because of that I feel like i was duped into watching at least the first 40 minutes of it before finally stopping realizing it wasn't what was advertised or what I was hoping for and came to these comments. So I guess one man's trash is another man's treasure or something like that?

    • @vandersonjunior8018
      @vandersonjunior8018 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The conspiracy here is that you're not watching the actual theory

    • @neilasoum3471
      @neilasoum3471 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@Jeff-zi1jcyeah fr. There is like no discussion of wonka

    • @energysynchronized9932
      @energysynchronized9932 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thanks for saving me 2 hours

    • @jessicab831
      @jessicab831 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@neilasoum3471There's probably gonna be a part 3 all about Wonka.

  • @TerrinX
    @TerrinX ปีที่แล้ว +145

    As someone who's spent the last two years learning Korean and diving headfirst in Korean history and culture, especially through media,this was amazing

  • @freedomsglory1
    @freedomsglory1 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I’m getting a 1960’s era length movie from a TH-camr that hasn’t posted in almost a year.
    With quality better then current Disney production.
    This made my night, nay month.

  • @linnhuman
    @linnhuman ปีที่แล้ว +212

    this is possibly the coolest documentary I've ever seen. and yes, it deserves to be called a documentary

    • @christians8885
      @christians8885 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This whole video is homage to “silence of the lambs”

  • @vigg0420
    @vigg0420 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    I honestly think this video doesnt really show the connection between willy wonka and snowpiercer but mostly the growth of snowpiercer itself

    • @Sómaisumguri
      @Sómaisumguri 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The first video shows way better The connections

  • @BobyChanMan
    @BobyChanMan ปีที่แล้ว +51

    The Host was the first movie I ever watched as a boy that opened my eyes to the potential of film and the expanse of undiscovered art in this world. It is still an unparalleled movie to me, and I had no idea who the director was or how he was connected to some of my other favorite movies. Thank you for illuminating this paragon of art for us, now I have a filmography to dive into and an even deeper appreciation for the French and Koreans.

  • @averylowhorn7166
    @averylowhorn7166 ปีที่แล้ว +348

    I was lucky enough to see snowpiercer on the big screen for free last year. They show movies in a theater on my university campus every week free for students and I went to a lot of them, but for some reason I was the only person at this showing other than the person who played it at the computer. It was such a surreal experience to see it going in blind, having no clue what it was about, and experiencing practically by myself. I never really thought about it afterwards but this video definitely made me grateful

    • @neilasoum3471
      @neilasoum3471 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That sounds like a fabulous experience

    • @mikeharris6429
      @mikeharris6429 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I saw Troy in a theatre by my self and it might have been the best way to experience a blockbuster like that

  • @DangerDurians
    @DangerDurians ปีที่แล้ว +330

    Please don’t make us wait 4 years for the next one

    • @takeahike858
      @takeahike858 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Agreed

    • @stephentaylor356
      @stephentaylor356 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed...40 years would be a better number.
      This video sucked, beginning to end. Clickbait title that is never addressed in the video and volume leveling on par with a 12 year olds TikTok videos. Dude needs to learn how to use his video editing software and stop with shitty clickbait.

    • @Danuke708
      @Danuke708 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      3 more years to go 😂😅😢

  • @michaelpants
    @michaelpants ปีที่แล้ว +398

    This is art. Phenomenal.
    You could make a 120min vid on how erosion builds canyons and I'm certain I'd be enthralled from start to finish.

    • @johnsmoak8237
      @johnsmoak8237 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For the first 60 minutes he talks about erosion building canyons, then for the final 06 minutes he goes retrocausal and discusses canyons building rivers

    • @Wazboom
      @Wazboom ปีที่แล้ว

      Wondershare? Da Vinci resolve? Fuck that popsicle sticks

  • @Trinket_Master
    @Trinket_Master ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is probably the highest quality video I have ever seen on TH-cam hands down.
    This could be a feature length doc on Prime and I wouldn't bat an eye.

  • @ComedicLetter
    @ComedicLetter ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Completely unrelated side tangent: in the video game “Frostpunk” the world has entered another ice age (in a steampunk 1800s this time).
    Every nation had its own way of preparing.
    While the game follows the British, and their plans for massive geothermal heat generators, you can find a location with a French quartermaster preparing for the French “Crève Neige” project.
    Turns out this is a large, closed system train.
    It’s a fun little reference, both to snowpiercer, and its place of origin.
    Utterly sweet video, too! I liked the first, and I like the second.

  • @yumine_
    @yumine_ ปีที่แล้ว +228

    So this is why you need 4 years to make the sequel. Totally worth it.

  • @oliviapenelopehope4497
    @oliviapenelopehope4497 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    This is off-topic, but I'm loving the glasses. It adds cohesion to every scene with our titular main character of this production to explain the enigma that is Snowpiercer and the lives of those involved.

  • @dunebuggy1292
    @dunebuggy1292 ปีที่แล้ว +455

    Lol, I thought this was going to be a 2 hours session on why the two are related, not on the history of Snowpiercer. Oh well. Good video.

    • @Bored.Bedrock
      @Bored.Bedrock ปีที่แล้ว +95

      Exactly it was like clickbait

    • @samt3412
      @samt3412 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@Bored.Bedrock It appears as though this will be a multi-part series, which will eventually culminate in explaining why these two movies, and maybe also Scott Pilgrim somehow, are all connected.

    • @megaerror2897
      @megaerror2897 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      Should’ve just been sub titled history of snowpiercer and the films before it or something. Had to stop at the 2 hour mark when I realized this was probably going to be just that, silence of the lambs was probably mentioned more than Willy wonky lol. Either way great video but very misleading

    • @PetorGriffen7815
      @PetorGriffen7815 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@megaerror2897 first part of multiple videos

    • @xenn4985
      @xenn4985 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@PetorGriffen7815 Doesn't change the fact that the title and opening do not make it clear what this video is about. It's a 2 hour fucking video, preface is CRUCIAL. This project will crash and burn, sad.

  • @lordmilchreis1885
    @lordmilchreis1885 ปีที่แล้ว +1011

    3 years later, he put out part 2, it took us an entire pandemic, wars, famine, natural disasters to finally get this masterpiece

    • @tylersharkey4727
      @tylersharkey4727 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Could make a documentary about this documentary

    • @dracula2749
      @dracula2749 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Disasters*

    • @Mrturtlestomps
      @Mrturtlestomps ปีที่แล้ว

      The view count reflects such

    • @dbagette
      @dbagette ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully the next part comes out in time for the new Wonka movie

    • @standard-carrier-wo-chan
      @standard-carrier-wo-chan ปีที่แล้ว

      He fought tooth and nail, from the frontlines to the homefronts, to deliver us this masterpiece.

  • @alfiedean4212
    @alfiedean4212 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I'm stunned by the amount of work you put into this. Especially the recreation of The Host using paper cut outs which is the most creative way of avoiding copyright claim I've ever seen

  • @NorthshireGaming
    @NorthshireGaming ปีที่แล้ว +185

    As someone with Autism, I really appreciated the frosted glasses. While I can only imagine this was purely an aesthetic or artistic choice, it allowed me to really study and watch your facial expressions without struggling to process the audio or sound of your words.
    It's something I don't get to experience very often, in videos or in my daily life, so in a weird way, thank you for that. Even if that wasn't directly your intention.
    I'm only halfway through the video at the time of writing this, but this whole story is so fascinating, I can't wait to see how it all comes together!

    • @draakisback
      @draakisback ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm also slightly autistic and I appreciated this as well. I'm pretty high on the spectrum so I didn't fully understand why I could gork your emotions a bit better than most video essays until I saw this comment. Looking forward to part two even if I am not the biggest fan of Bong Joon-ho's work (I've not really had a chance to see most of his stuff to be honest). Watching this video has made me want to sit down and watch parasite and the host as well as many of his other films. My favorite director ATM is probably Alfonso Cuaron and it's because of many of the things that seemingly make Bong's films so good.

    • @NeurodivergentSuperiority
      @NeurodivergentSuperiority ปีที่แล้ว

      As an autist myself, you are weak, shy, and timid.

    • @Luxlude444
      @Luxlude444 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Autistic people try not to mention they are autistic on TH-cam comments (impossible?!)

    • @NorthshireGaming
      @NorthshireGaming ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Luxlude444 Meh. Simply stating that the glasses thing was a net positive to me would have incurred some kind of speculation on another reader's part, I was only trying to be forthright.
      It also allowed me to thank the content creator for an aspect of his work that he may not have intended, for which I was genuinely thankful.
      My apologies if it rubbed you the wrong way.

    • @JoCheah
      @JoCheah ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@NorthshireGaming Ignore that guy, there's so many disadvantages to being autistic that I'm gonna take whatever fake internet "bragging" points I can get. Also thank you for pointing out the glasses, I never really thought about why I prefer video essays that don't show the narrator but this makes a lot of sense.

  • @vtstuff3447
    @vtstuff3447 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    I really hope this video gets the support it deserves, I love your style and the production quality on display here

  • @localcryptid4935
    @localcryptid4935 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    This is SO unbelievably sick! The level of effort that clearly went into all this omg.

  • @doubleh3978
    @doubleh3978 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    I discovered part 1 yesterday, glad that you released part 2 right after that even 4 years later. I was kinda lucky there!
    This theory is insane and it became one of my favourite film theories of all times.

    • @Julian-re2ey
      @Julian-re2ey ปีที่แล้ว +6

      TH-cams algorithm probably decided to recommend the first one after seeing him starting uploading the secound part. A lot of people in the comments seem to have just watched the first one, before this one got uploaded.

    • @billkeithchannel
      @billkeithchannel ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My Top 3 film theories are (not in order):
      1. Snowpiercer is a Willy Wonka Sequel (Rhino Stew / Nomadic Kong)
      2. The truth about Andy's Dad in Toy Story (Super Carlin Bros.) [ TINY of the URL /ToyStoryZero ]
      3. Jar-Jar Binks is the Dark Sith Lord using Drunken Master Technique (Lockstin & Gnoggin) [ TINY of the URL /JarJarSithLord ]

    • @doubleh3978
      @doubleh3978 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@billkeithchannel YES!!! Darth Jar is one of my top too, another great theory (i don't think he is actually a Sith lord but i think it was the original idea to have him being the master of Palpatine or something like that, maybe he should have been Darth Plagueis and then they changed because of the backlash).
      I don't know about Andy's dad but i'm definetly going to look it up since it seems you have my same tastes.

    • @billkeithchannel
      @billkeithchannel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@doubleh3978 that tiny url shortcut is a direct link to the andy's dad theory.

    • @nurpiet
      @nurpiet ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@billkeithchannel am convinced that jar jar is sith lord

  • @ChouxThePastry
    @ChouxThePastry ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Fun fact one day a copy of the host just appeared in my home. I asked my dad and he had no idea where it came from, but he deduced a friend at work must've slipped it in his bag or something. Pretty scary movie to find appear out of nowhere!

  • @starkillermarex
    @starkillermarex 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Just a courtesy disclaimer, this video doesn't explain any connections to Willy Wonka.
    It's about production of the movie and the origins of Snowpiercer.
    Not a waste of 2 hours cause it was interesting to see the history of production but I really was here for connection explanations

  • @vicorkit
    @vicorkit ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Some of the greatest content I have ever seen on this platform. Really glad this series is back on track. Let's keep this train rolling

  • @Michniko
    @Michniko ปีที่แล้ว +54

    This was incredible, I mean you kinda tricked me into watching a video about the entire history of this movie and everything surrounding it... and I absolutely loved it. Very much looking forward to what comes in the future!

  • @geraltshmm5750
    @geraltshmm5750 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It's been almost exactly a year since I discovered Part 1 on accident while I was up at 3 AM scrolling through TH-cam trying to distract myself from a breakout of full-body hives and possibly in the worst pain of my life so far. It's been on my mind frequently ever since, so finding this now is just *absolutely perfect*

  • @brianlemoine8170
    @brianlemoine8170 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    First video was amazing , this one totally went “ off the rails “, don’t know how the first 3/4 had anything to do with the relations to wonka and snowpiercer

  • @MachewDunf
    @MachewDunf 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can't believe I actually went and watched a whole movie just so I can finish this video. Take that as a compliment as to how good your videos and arguments are. The Host was a pretty great movie by the way

  • @miraqen7801
    @miraqen7801 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    You sir put a billion times more effort and love to your projects than most of popular media out there! One of the best content creators on TH-cam!

  • @tanog.5145
    @tanog.5145 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Are you fucking kidding me, i saw the first video like last week and was amazed by your skills in both video editing and narration, now you pop up in my yt home with a 2 hours plus sequel?!?! I must make some popcorn and start watching this masterpiece, even if it is 1 am in the morning right now

  • @mitchellorchard2163
    @mitchellorchard2163 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a fan of art (film, written and music) and it’s comprehension I would like to thank you for diving so deeply into what is broadly an unimportant subject. It is a fantastic dissection of an idea. Thank you for the effort you have put in and I hope that you are monetarily remunerated.

  • @StrongManLab
    @StrongManLab 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    It's crazy that the comic was not even translated into English, and somehow Bong got his hands on it. Trust me, as a Korean myself, I can confidently say that we don't really have French stuff in the country-almost at all. Especially cultural stuff like comics.

  • @dominickborrego2393
    @dominickborrego2393 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Only 40 minutes in but my goodness the asset choices in this video are incredible. The fonts, the images, the footage you shot and the footage you use. Even the sound is Incredible.
    I recognize there is a ton of work that goes into sourcing these assets and then more to make sure they look as good as possible on screen.
    You have really achieved something here, and that's before discussing what a phenomenal and engaging script this is. Really smart hook at the beginning. I didn't think I was ready for a 2hr video but found myself very excited.
    Honestly, thrilled to see how it all plays out. Thanks for making this. It's a model for video essays.

  • @AcolyteOfHysteria1811
    @AcolyteOfHysteria1811 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Holy hell that was so much more than I thought it would be it was amazing. I thought there was going to be more connection stuff but I didn't mind the little amount of it . I love the references and even the ending being a Scott pilgrim vs the world joke was greatly done. I'm surprised this isn't a documentary on Netflix or Hulu or something like that it was so well made. I personally can't wait for more of this and hope you get the fame and love you deserve cause you don't have nearly enough subscribers you need millions not 129 thousand.

  • @heartycoffee4754
    @heartycoffee4754 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    i hope the lower views on this video compared to pt.1 doesn’t discourage you from making more video essays in the future. you are very good at them

    • @kingcrustytut7544
      @kingcrustytut7544 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It got lower views because he mislead viewers, if he was honest it might’ve done better

    • @loganlewis1790
      @loganlewis1790 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kingcrustytut7544 he didnt mislead. This is information he deams neseccary to understand the connection and its not the end. Its a vital piece to the puzzle, but more importantly its a bridge. If im proven wrong when the next part comes out feel free to correct me.

    • @micryt.
      @micryt. ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@kingcrustytut7544 For people know the video is misleading (even if I don't agree it is) they would have to click on it and watch it at least partially which would count toward the view count. The reason the viewers are lower is because it's a 2 hour video essay that is sequel to 15 minute video released 4 years after it. Of course views are lower. Even if it was published a week after part 1 it would perform worse, it's hard to top 13 million views.

    • @apex9177
      @apex9177 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn't help that some idiot thought he would just help himself to this project and add his own bullshyt thoughts to it outside of Rhino Stews Video, that's discouraging enough as it is, tainted by someone else's stench ("Nomadic Kong")

  • @slumberjack832
    @slumberjack832 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This video was an amazing experience. This conspiracy/documentary has found a spot on my top 10 videos all time on youtube and truly felt like a movie by itself lol.
    Thank you for this, greetings from Brazil!

    • @Pencil0fDoom
      @Pencil0fDoom ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aack! Love your screen name! I’ve been tossing Slumberjack into conversation periodically for years! Never thought I’d run into it in the wild like this.

  • @PuertoRicanRattlesnake
    @PuertoRicanRattlesnake 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Bong Joon-ho can hold a conversation with people with whom he doesn't even share a native language, and yet he still manages to be the funniest person in the room. If there's a greater testament to comedic genius, I don't know what it would be.

  • @_2oo7
    @_2oo7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Such a fantastic theory. I always hoped more attention came to this and that someone might expand on this. This is amazing and I’m so happy to see that this theory hasn’t been forgotten about

  • @zljmbo
    @zljmbo ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you for making this master piece for me specifically, cuz my soul yearned for more Snowpiercer content. After you made your first part I was so obsessed and I searched for more details but there was not much out there. Can't wait to see more!!

  • @iker2333
    @iker2333 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Ok, finally saw this in its entirety, and although there was less wonka than expected, it was still an amazing project about snow piercer, and it really is noticable the passion and effort you put into it!
    This is amazing

  • @Mat0s-316
    @Mat0s-316 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    10 minutes un and I'm already blown away by the quality on writing and presentation. Very glad to get the sequel I didn't know I needed!

  • @meakimon
    @meakimon ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The intro alone is making this worth a watch! I legit thought it was cgi, because of the movement and how the clothes and skin looked... "too clean/smooth." Heck I'm only 5:30 into this, and I'm already glued to the screen.

  • @MrBoBoBo
    @MrBoBoBo ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Obviously all of the movies mentioned are bangers but Mother is so special. The lady absolutely killed that role

  • @madhatsandlemons
    @madhatsandlemons ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i saw this movie in the theaters at 18 and i was NOT PREPARED -- watching your video essay has gotten me interested in it again and i'm planning on rewatching tonight! looking forward to seeing it again with fresh eyes

  • @zelokorLocalGodOfChaosAndBread
    @zelokorLocalGodOfChaosAndBread ปีที่แล้ว +74

    after 4 years the second part is just a documentary and yet it still works so fucking well
    10/10

    • @kingcrustytut7544
      @kingcrustytut7544 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Has nothing to do with the original video conceptually besides being about snow piercer tho.
      The title etc. makes it feel like this is going to be a deep dive into the theory, and he covers nothing on the theory lol

    • @lightdud552
      @lightdud552 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kingcrustytut7544 I'm quite enjoying learning about this director and his movies still though

  • @TRAFFICCONEBEATS
    @TRAFFICCONEBEATS ปีที่แล้ว +7

    extremely good video and i know this is going to be a multipart video but cant say im not disappointed in this video not including anything about the actual title, which is about the Wonkapiercer theory

  • @ghibbs2693
    @ghibbs2693 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Huge thanks for the homage to the history of bande-dessinées and the creators who worked so hard through the years.
    Your essay was visually very impressive, respectful and most of all: educational! Thanks again, from a french speaker and artist :)

  • @mattparker9533
    @mattparker9533 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Both of these videos are S tier. Incredible work sir
    This video is a real work of art.
    edit: i went and watched the host like you said to, and the popsicle puppets were way more spot on than i anticipated them to be

  • @jocareding533
    @jocareding533 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    I was expecting a 2nd part to the theory but ended Up getting a documentary about snowpiercer and Bong Joon-ho and it honestly was better than what I was expecting

  • @gilbertgottfreid8818
    @gilbertgottfreid8818 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    absolutely stunning work! when i saw this uploaded i was expecting an entire continuation on the theories and parallels that the two movies had in common, but this breakdown of the history of the comics, the filmography, and of the people surrounded in both of the versions of snowpiercer's creation was a welcome surprise! looking forward to your next upload - liked and subscribed!

  • @lorenpeterson5255
    @lorenpeterson5255 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I feel so incredibly lucky to have seen this in a theater. One random day after school my friend and I were playing board games and thought "we should see what's showing at SIFF"

  • @davidponder1654
    @davidponder1654 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I never thought I’d see a part 2 since part 1 was 4 years ago and wrapped up nicely. But I’m here for it

  • @TheKaijuKing54
    @TheKaijuKing54 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Even though this video wasn’t what I was expecting from an official sequel to the Wonkapiercer theory, it was very interesting to hear the history about everything that lead up to the 2013 Snowpiercer film. Really looking forward to the next part.

  • @jst1532
    @jst1532 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I had no clue that the creator of snow piercer also made memories of murder, that movie is such a masterpiece

    • @RhinoStew
      @RhinoStew  ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You are the first person I know to think of Memories or Murder before Snowpiercer!! That is wild. They couldn't be more different right??

    • @boketto9521
      @boketto9521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I didn't know he made barking dogs never bite.

  • @Mxnst3rMutt
    @Mxnst3rMutt ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can I just say, I have been watching this all morning and I am so impressed with this. Even in your deliverance through your script and set, you are essentially doing exactly what snowpiercer went through in each person's grasp. I enjoy the call backs and long pauses for comedic effect whenever you go "and this is where it should have ended but for the train that never stops..." I had so many good chuckles and I'm not even done watching. I can tell you are passionate about this and I am in love with you being a character in the dystopia in-between things. I didn't think the one off video I had watched would have a sequel or honestly, that it had gone so viral. I had seen like one other article after watching and probably mentioned it once to another person and never heard about it again. So to see the success and momentum to create this, thank you. I really genuinely appreciate this.

  • @amsgamingandmusic
    @amsgamingandmusic ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh my God. I saw this video in my feed, and thought it was perfectly up my alley. Seeing it was part 2, I looked and found your original video- being rather surprised that it was 4 years ago. Now, I'm only about 15 minutes into this after watching through the entire original and I am intensely astounded at the overall quality and passion in this video. I wish you absolutely all the best, and hope your hard work brings you success!!

  • @TheJacket
    @TheJacket ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This video specially the part about the director is so beautifully done. Seriously, congratulations. This is one of the best essays I've saw in the past years.

  • @anniesheldon3692
    @anniesheldon3692 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video took me on such a weird trip. Excited by hearing an indepth exploration and explanation of 'wonkapiercer', what i got instead was a historical recounting of french comics, bong's background and filmography, i stopped the video in the middle of it to buy and watch the host to experience it firsthand, then came back to finish this video. This video isn't even about wonkapiercer, its about... well, art. and artists. its nostalgia, deconstruction, and a love letter of some kind. I honestly don't know what i'd categorise this video as. you've made something very special here. also its really fucking cool that a french comic got made by a korean director into a movie IN ENGLISH. HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?

  • @rolewski
    @rolewski ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Wow, i love when the video essay does not talk about the subject matter!

  • @lachlanfry6974
    @lachlanfry6974 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Such an amazing video essay, if it can even be called that at this point. With such a distinguishable style all I can call it is a masterpiece honestly. Through two and a half hours, never once did I feel like what I was watching was the length of a full feature film, and I'm genuinely surprised at how you managed that. The only other praise I can give you is that I hope Bong Joon-Ho sees this love letter to his work.

  • @joemama2737
    @joemama2737 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This feels like the kind of video that gets mass recommended out of nowhere

  • @cpl_dont_know
    @cpl_dont_know ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is among the most enjoyable 2 hours I have ever spent on TH-cam. Thank you so incredibly much for all the hard work.

  • @LOGANKYGER
    @LOGANKYGER ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i've watched thousands of youtube videos over the years and i can honestly say that this is the most interesting and one of the highest quality videos i've ever watched. amazing job

  • @adamthompson2098
    @adamthompson2098 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "That night, Couesch got to see the entire engine, from tail, to engine."
    I STARTED BALLING!!! Omfg...
    What an amazing documentary! Absolutely fantastic and fascinating!

  • @brettb205
    @brettb205 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You kept me entertained for at least 8 minutes more than a single Bong Joon-Ho piece. Nicely done, good sir

  • @imdefinitelynotjesus
    @imdefinitelynotjesus ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Finally, let the train ride commence.

  • @christhefish11
    @christhefish11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never thought I would love watching a 2 hour video about Snowpiercer but alas here I am. Thank you for this amazing video. I can not wait for the next one!!!

  • @dropdeaddrawing
    @dropdeaddrawing 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i feel like i was preety blessed to have The Host be the first piece of korean media i ever got to experience as a young teen. I had no idea till recently that it was the same director as another favorite movie low and behold snowpiercer.

  • @GiggleSnortable
    @GiggleSnortable ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A testament to how captivating your writing during the entire 2 hour and 14 minute video, is how disappointed I was when it was over. Excited for more!

  • @steampunk-llama
    @steampunk-llama ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I remember being hooked on the original video, and I’m so so excited for the next parts!! Sure I wasn’t expecting the video to be a deep dive into the backstory, but that history is integral for setting up the theory properly for it to be authentically fleshed out. Fantastic work!!
    Side note MAN I never realised the same guy behind The Host was behind Snow Piercer before this, that really explains a lot

  • @k3t24
    @k3t24 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really liked the video and damn learned a lot about the movie's history. This is an unofficial research/documentary for sure but the problem is that I opened the video expecting a fully detailed theory of how Will Wonka and Snowpiercer are connected, not how snowpiercer turned into a movie documentary. I still enjoyed it but this isn't what I expected when I opened up the video and I feel sadly unsatisfied with the video because of it. I would still watch it if the caption said ''how I made the snowpiercer willy wonka theory and the history of the snowpiercer'' but it did not and it forced me to watch 2 hours straight waiting for somehow a crazy conspiracy... Anyways great video and I hope you keep producing more videos about movies.

    • @RhinoStew
      @RhinoStew  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh completely, but I will say it this.
      This is still 1/5 th of the video.
      You just watched "The Hobbit". We haven't gotten to Lord of the Rings yet 🎩

    • @lilzzak
      @lilzzak ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@RhinoStew saying that this is only 1/5th really makes me less likely to want to watch the rest. I think it's cool you wanted to talk about the other stuff but the title is so misleading for people that came for the theory and aren't interested in the extra stuff. Your video is good and very interesting but it's clickbait at this point. It makes me feel like the next 8 hours of videos aren't going to talk much about the theory either. You should title your next videos appropriately so people atleast know what to expect. It's like reading a book that is in a sci fi section but it's actually a romance that is set in the future. The romance book on its own would have been cool but because you were expecting a cool scifi now you just dislike the book for being a bad scifi. And this is a big problem with books having inaccurate genres to get people to read them that might otherwise skip them. I would have loved your video if it wasn't tricking me into thinking i would get 2 hours of theory. Instead i just got more annoyed listening to it because i wasn't in the mood for a documentary and i kept waiting for the part i actually clicked on the video for. I'm going to rewatch your video later when i can properly appreciate the work that went into it and now that i know what it is about i can later enjoy the topic when I'm in the mood for a documentary. I will also watch the host.

  • @pkfirealarm4685
    @pkfirealarm4685 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    never been more excited for a youtube video in my life! Release part 3!

  • @darknessdash1853
    @darknessdash1853 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    honestly this might as well be called "the history of snowpiercer"

  • @andrewaldridge860
    @andrewaldridge860 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Absolutely a great bit of content. Watched every minute and enjoyed each point. The majority has nothing to do with wonka. Kinda feel scammed unless there will be a part 3 to reconcile the lack of wonka connections.

  • @joeybulford5266
    @joeybulford5266 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    OH MAN!!!! Literally just wanted to go back and watch the original but GAWD DAMN part 2 just dropped less than a week ago??!!! We are blessed ladies and gentlemen.

  • @princecollins-
    @princecollins- ปีที่แล้ว +7

    this is way more a history of snowpiercer and bong jooh-ho than eneything else

  • @bojidarlyubenov203
    @bojidarlyubenov203 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The magnitude of this piece of art created by Bong and the sheer immensity of respect you have for him resulting in this masterpiece are the reasons why I just want to say that your work is greatly appreciated by me, and hopefully by millions and millions more people including Bong himself. Wish you all the best!!! Waiting for part 3!

  • @gad333mlg
    @gad333mlg ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is... wildly good. I know it's not gonna be as viral as the short and sweet original, but the quality of this video in presentation and pacing is incredible. What a treat it was watching this.

  • @SephirothPhenyx
    @SephirothPhenyx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bro, the amount of effort and production that went into this is astounding. Simply marvellous. You deserve all the success coming your way dude. Cheers and thank you so much.

  • @melon3286
    @melon3286 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ever since I saw your first willy wonka/snowpiercer video, I was hooked on the theory. glad to see this masterpiece of a 2 hour video was made; you really have upped the production since then!

  • @nautil_us
    @nautil_us ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is a MASTERPIECE and i genuienly cannot tell if you're gonna make a part two or if it's a joke

  • @judahbennett483
    @judahbennett483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was arguably one of the most well put together TH-cam videos I’ve ever seen

  • @pokhanpat9046
    @pokhanpat9046 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Might just be my favorite video essay on youtube. The production value is crazy.

  • @lighthouseworm
    @lighthouseworm ปีที่แล้ว +10

    can’t wait for part 3 in four years when we get to the willy wonka part🥰

  • @Mike-qb8zk
    @Mike-qb8zk ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video, this one of the best video essays I have ever seen !

  • @obamabiden
    @obamabiden ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this is really something remarkable as a piece of analysis, i wasn't expecting this level of production values or detail, i have a lot of films added to my "to watch" list now

  • @fozziethebeat
    @fozziethebeat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I honestly didn't think there could be a 2 hour video about Snowpiercer and Willy Wonka. All my doubts have been defied and this was absolutely amazing. I can't wait to see part 2 book 2 whenever it comes out.

  • @noondayshadow
    @noondayshadow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The video looked long and I didn't think I would finish but I absolutely did. That was well worth the time. Great job putting this together

  • @rotomfan63
    @rotomfan63 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    as someone who is not super big into film or movies in general i was watching the Bung-Jun Ho bit and the talk of other non Wonka movies like "okay i weant into this thinking it would explain that somehow wonka and snowpeircer are set in the same universe where does the candy man come into this?"

  • @woahhhaidan3706
    @woahhhaidan3706 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the editing and production of this video was fantastic, but I felt most of the details I learned weren't needed and made it overly long. There was a reason that your previous video was so popular - it respected the viewers time while also being incredibly interesting. In this one, I'm struggling to find the point.

  • @rageagainstmyhairline5574
    @rageagainstmyhairline5574 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Allow me to add a few underwhelmingly insubstantial words to sum up how I feel about this quite substantial undertaking you made.
    It was great. Thanks for the riveting history surrounding the making of the film; and while I feel you overcorrected in your attempt to reign in the ubiquity of your original video, deliberately avoiding the Wonka connections in order to champion the truth, and therefore misselling it as a sequel, you did make a great video once again, and it was so interesting that I only realised this fact once it had ended.
    Good stuff.

  • @moseszero3281
    @moseszero3281 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find it ironic that you mentioned "A modest proposal" by Swift. This reminds me of a paper I wrote on AMP while in college. I got interested in the catholic/protestant elements and read through some history of the century or so before. For my 4 page assignment, I ended up writing 5.5 pages. The first 5 pages basically summarized that history, with the last half page connecting bits of the history to Swift's AMP. My teach even commented that they wondered if I would ever mention AMP at all. I understand why you made this video.

  • @dannyg.4421
    @dannyg.4421 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    People might know you from the willywonka X snowpeircer video but I knew you from 2kawaii4comfort. It was a work of art.