Everything Wrong With Snowpiercer In 14 Minutes Or Less
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ม.ค. 2016
- Snowpiercer was one of 2014's best surprises. It's original, weird as hell, and driving. We loved it. We also found its sins... you know how we do.
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"That piece of equipment went *extinct* recently..." Wait... What??? "Extinct"??? What, were Umpa Lumpas running the engine before? Wait a minute...
I see what you did there :)
It makes sense if you hear the whole speech, he just uses extinct again to make a point
Look at the video connecting those films
@Wary of Extremes link to the video? Thats really interesting
@@aboodyboi Just search Snowpiercer Willy Wonka on TH-cam.
They coat their axes in fish blood because fish blood is an anti-clotting agent, meaning once they cut someone that cut will bleed for a lot longer.
the more you know. so how does fish blood clot when a fish is cut?
I thought it was to provoke infection, but this makes sense too
Very neat fact, thank you. +Josue Roberto Infection is most likely a bonus:
Hit with an Axe and you survive? Well you will bleed out. Manage to prevent bleeding out? Well now you have an infection.
i thought the fish was poison.
Kyra Davis how the fuck do you know that?
That moment you remember all those kids from the school were brutally massacred when the train derailed.
Well basically everyone was
That must’ve been a sick ass kill streak
good.
@@j_rivera2007 that's like... 50 uav's
The Boi Humans: 0 Mountain: 3000
"THEY'VE GOT NO BULLETS!"
That scene gave me the chills
“Yo Madam Supervisor, are you sure you don’t want us to have ANY ammo at all? Not even Rubber ? Alright, you better give my family a life insurance policy.”
Lol I was stoked when I heard that, cause now them guards are *_fucked_* .
Why the acting wasn’t good enough for chills. The movie didn’t look horrible in the beginning, but Overall the movie made no sense and shouldn’t have been made. Utter trash
@@troythemighty3683 I mean, I don't disagree, but there are probably savvy art critics out there praising this movie.
DOGE™ they should fire themselves and try something else
Also the polar bear, which has no fear of humans and is undoubtedly starving at all times, will probably just eat them
+Jack Duripper That was the only thing I could think when I saw it. Also I think polar bears actively hunt humans, not just have no fear.
+DeepCFisherman
Polar bears hunt humans because they have no fear of them as there are no humans in their natural environment.
Like nowadays wolfs are the descendants of wolfs which learned that human flash is really dangerous in a long term xD
+Carolus Rex lol
+DeepCFisherman Nothing actively hunts humans, every animal on the planet gives zero fucks humans exist unless they look more like a tasty snack.
***** I'm not saying they brake down doors and hunt people, obviously. But if you're in their neck of the woods, then yeah there are things that hunt humans. Wolves, tigers, crocs.
"how do any of these people know how to do hand-to-hand combat"
They've been
*Training*
You sir win the internet.
Thank you.
I didn't understand the joke.
they are in a train...their entire life...so they been...
Bravo, sir. Take a bow.
You forgot how Timmy has a jacket that fits him perfectly
And boots
its nams jacket
I remember thinking the same thing.
They where passed down from other tailes
@@ElloImNoodle exactly, so why does it fit so well. Do they have sowing equipment or is he just lucky? But I guess it's a jacket, so probably pretty forgiving regarding stature, unlike a t-shirt or something.
character: *breathes*
CinemaSins: "main character breathes cliche" *ding*
JayRyan I’ve seen this exact comment on 9 of their videos and I still find it funny
CinemaSins: Chris Evans came out in another movie. Ding. CSins contradicts himself every second and the sins are mostly a total stretch.
@@elderberryva9282 I don't, at least not in that format.
@@Wulfpack1 I love that some people still don't get that most sins that Cinemasins point out is just for comedic relief. It's completely obvious that this is just an act and not real movie sins. He just said "I don't know why but I'm sinning it"
@@servant691 I like Csins. Its funny. What upsets me us when in the comments people treat it like an actual review and dont see the actual good movie.
For a guy who claimed that he ate people, I'm not sure why finding out that the brown jelly MREs were made of bugs suddenly seemed really disgusting to him.
*****
lol. I actually really love this movie.
+Alex Rus It would make a lot more sense if he was more angry then disgusted. That would have been a more understandable scene.
+AmyD You're assuming he was in any fashion proud of eating people, even when he was doing it. He more than likely had a moral problem, and physical problem, eating people in the beginning but found a way to reason beyond it. But I'd imagine it's also because he knows other people eat it, and since he thinks of himself as their protector and helper as he is trying to forge ahead to a better tomorrow, it was a moral repulsion that everyone was being forced to eat the bugs.
TL;DR: When was the last time you heard a cannibal say: "We're having bugs for lunch? Yay! I'd totally not rather eat my mother-in-law!"
+AmyD That bothered me too!!!
It's made of bugs... And shit. Human shit.
When the kid was running with the torch, "bring him down Legolas!".
Leo Saucedo i thought that was gunna be in the end!
Leo Saucedo yessss lmao he's my favorite character in the movie everything he did was selfless and badass
Noticed a sin while watching this movie recently:
At the end of the movie wilford says to Curtis “you’re the only person to walk the entire length of the train”
You mean except for Claude who is standing right next to him and was measuring kids in the tail section earlier in the movie?
Well she was in the tail section but not in the complete back of the train, where Gilliam lived. Curtis hung out with Gilliam there and also walked the entire length of the train so he technically walked farther than she did.
Lol cmon dude you know what he meant. First dude who actually FOUGHT his way to the top. Everyone else was handed a free trip.
Plus all the children as well!
Claude isn’t a person
You mean transgender Augustus Gloop
Why is there no sin for Edgar having an Irish accent when he's lived on a train with Americans, John Hurt and one Scottish guy all his life?
Aren't accents genetic? His parents are probably Irish.
@@Kevin-fp3vw Not even a little bit. Adults who've lived in one place all their life can move somewhere with the same language and pick up parts of the regional accent. Absolutely nothing on that train should have produced an accent that strong.
@@walonsubilol I was joking get jebaited
@@Kevin-fp3vw pretty bad joke
Kevin damn bro, you got the whole squad laughing
Whenever I see the polar bear, I just think "Man, these guys CANNOT catch a break!" Because that polar bear is looking at them and thinking "lunch."
I mean it's been 17 years and I can imagine that most polar bears wouldn't really remember humans so this means that they are neutral until hungry.
Yeah, I saw it as an awesome ending because it leaves so many possibilities. It can be anything from incredibly hopeful to incredibly depressing, whatever your understanding of the movie requires.
Though apparently the director just wanted to show life and it was supposed to be a hopeful ending. But who cares about his intent :)
but the left wingers who wrote this, polar bears represent hope and humanity being they are the poster children for global warming, or no, cooling now...
@@cultfilmfreakreviews more importantly, the creators aren't Americans. Climate change denial is a pretty unique American delusion, just like prosperity gospel healers and scientology
Yeah, that was pretty much the extinction of the species. That bear is going to be hungry. If not now, soon. And they're slow moving meat.
Subtract all sins: This is a direct sequel to Willy Wonka.
I know what video you just watched. ;)
Ah, I've found the fellow intellectuals in the comment section.
I just know saw that video too!!
Me two
I saw that video
*THEY’VE GOT NO BULLETS!!!!!!*
Man, that was an AWESOME moment!
The fire scene was quite good too, and the convo near the end between Namgoong and Curtis
It was acually unexpected and cool
I couldn't stop thinking about it for months
Now I can't stop thinking about Parasite
Director Bong is freacking amazing
The worst part was the ending. The two sole surviving passengers, both kids, unarmed, come out of the train and the first thing they see is a polar bear. "Hey. free lunch!"
That was the moment I realized I just wasted so much time on this movie lmao so dumb
That's not the point. The bear symbolises freedom and unadulterated nature; a new beginning.
@@geokim8590 Not a very good point at all. Do you know how violent polar bears are?
@@Heisenberg21420 yeah dont they seek you out if they see you?
@@jeremybetz16 Yes polar bears are the most dangerous out of all bears. Famous saying for bear attacks.
Brown lie down
Black fight back
White say goodnight
I thought maybe it would turn out the windows were digital displays and the world was really back to normal and they were keeping the people on the train just to fuck with them.
Oooh. You should write a script about that. Clever idea!
Yup, they've actually been going around in circles for years in a ski resort. It was all part of some nefarious plot to lure all the world's idiots onto this train.
so something like matrix
I suspect the second and third of the Matrix movies were made to keep viewers on the train just to fuck with them, so to speak, but the original Matrix movie was rather insightful. I think DavesWorld's idea could stand apart as original.
Then why would that punished guy's arm freeze early in the movie?
OK, so it's 'warm enough' outside that you won't necessarily freeze to death, but with the train half destroyed, and the world still largely a frozen wasteland, exactly how are they going to produce enough food to go around?
And yeah, seriously, they ended up with just about the worst place to 'stop' the train.
If the train crashed by a big city, that'd open up more possibilities.
The polar bear was supposed to signify there are living things surviving outside.
Purvdragon-sensei - A polar bear isn't a human though. It's one thing for a sparse population of cold-adapted creatures to survive the harsh environment, but I would think many of the humans that survived to the end of the movie will manage to survive the harsh outside world. Not unless the train's infrastructure is more intact that it looks at the end of the movie.
+That Sodding Gamer
you forget that a dudes arm got frostbitten soo badly it fell off in seven minutes, and they can just walk out there in a parka and not die? I dont see any dead Tauntauns around to snuggle in its guts... unless they brought one of those new-fangled bullets around and a knife to rip open polar bear.
+Spastlcatedtoad Can't help you there.
sin 103: they become polar bear snack ten seconds after the movie ends
sin 104: Polar bears in the Himalayas? They are sea creatures.
sin 105: What the actual fu*k was this film about?
I know it is a joke but> "Polar bear attacks on humans are extremely rare, and according to records by James Wilder, out of 73 fatal bear attacks between 1870 and 2014, only 20 have been the result of polar bears.
"
@@jannespor8922 Willy Wanker, obviously :p
@@Osama-KIN_TMZ01 yes it's rare, because who goes to the arctic to become polar bear snack?
We all know that if this movie actually answered his questions he would give it a sin for exposition
You don't know what exposition is then
I don't mind this movie its ok, got a poster of it in my room.
But the ending really leaves you with no hope, we all know that polar would have eaten them
Or end up like her mother, as a frozen popsicle.
lol
+Voracious T I like this movie and of cours it's not realistic and I am ok with that because it's not the point but the ending is just bad in my opinion not just the icebear from the moment they reach the front of the train it turns into a WTF marathon
+Voracious T But did you eat baby?
If you think it's only ok, how come you got a poster of it in your room?
Anyone seen the video that says this movie is a dark sequel to the original Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.. really good video
th-cam.com/video/jEX52h1TvuA/w-d-xo.html
Yeah and the old bad guy at the end is theorized to be Charlie
LSSJ JOHNNY Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory*
Meh, this movie was severely overrated.
@@ilovebeingprecious that still confuses me. The book is called _Charlie and the Chocolate Factory_ , but the first films is called _Willy Wonka..._ even though it's more about Charlie while the other filmed called _Charlie..._ is more about Willy Wonka...
Edited for italics fix
Should have taken a sin away when the guy was like “HES GOING TO KILL ME” and she just shrugs her shoulders. That shit was hilarious
“Billy Elliot? He died like a bitch! You should have eaten him back when he was delicious.”
Best joke I have ever heard on this channel.
Damn Charlie and the chocolate factory two is awsome.
rick 123 ikr
Actually it's the original, not the Johnny deep as Wonka version, Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory
rick 123 that's just a theory.
Paul Moitoso a film theory
@@paulmoitoso9658 no it's pretty legit watch the video it's pretty much not a theory
Tilda Swinton/Minister's speech was deliberately timed for 7min which is the time the guards calculated for the man's arm to freeze off. She even stalls after she realizes she still has another ~40 seconds to go before her allotted speech time is up. It's not a plot hole/coincidence
Jess when I watched I counted her speech is legit in the movie is dam near close to 6 mins she dose legit talk for the amount of 7 min in the movie .
I just want to know, how Timmy found the exact child size coat and boots in a wrecked train 5 mins after Yona steps outside
When they went past the wrecked plane, we learn that with each passing, there's been progressively more of the plane visible. Therefore, the ice is melting. So, how come those seven peeps on the mountaintop remain buried?
because its colder on the top
Different areas
Different heights.
Those 7 were on mountain.
I only ever saw 5
@@bait5257 yeah it was the revolt of the 5
Everything Wrong with Dredd
+Micah “Organ Donor” I';ve been requesting this for like over a year. Probably closer to two. Please people of cinemasins, do this movie, not because I hate it, but because I loved it.
+savcam500 Definatly Battlefield earth.
+Micah “Organ Donor” Which one?
omfg...no! *Judge Dredd* hell yea. The new one is just not worth it unless they do it in 2 mins or less😤
+Micah “Organ Donor” NOTHING is wrong with Dredd.
As I understand it the thing with coating the blades in fish blood is to foul the blood of anyone injured. So if you don't die in battle you will most definitely die of a horrible infection.
+Katja Yount Plus it wasn't a Catfish.
+Katja Yount In the director's interview, he said the scene was inspired by the movie "Godfather" where they send dead fish.
+Katja Yount That's what I thought too.
I'll be honest my husband was the one who told me the thing about the fouled blood.
+Katja Yount You're right. I'm pretty sure I remember the director saying it was because the fish's blood was poisonous.
I can't wait for someone to make a movie where one character hands an apple to another and the intended receiver says, "No thanks....I don't want to look like an asshole" and then looks at the camera, breaking the fourth wall.
Breaking the fourth wall... is still a sin. hehe
Heh?
when curtis got his hand chopped, i was like "he's the winter soldier now"
The arm can't survive 7 minutes without turning into a popsicle but surprise its livable outside.... Even this youtuber missed that one and it was the most frustrating thing for me at the end.
😂
@@Morristown337 A train going at high speed is different than standing outside with little to no wind. Also, in order for ice to form on the track, it has to turn into water and refreeze, which mean it is warm enough to melt the snow at least at some point on a regular basis to have that much ice.
@@6thgraderfriends the windchill wouldn't make that much of a difference.
2:28: it's hard to understand how the train can keep moving with that guy's balls weighing it down
Thank you for the 2+ minutes of unrestrained giggling,
Best comment so far 😂
He was bold as hell
I think it works the same way as their paint manufacturing for the 17 years of school, and all those carriages that need touched up.
I don't get why he had to point it to his head tho. Would have worked if he pointed it above his head as well.
I thought at least 2 things were worthy of sin removals. Him letting Edgar die I was expecting the cliché try and save the best friend thing, he hardly spends time to think about it he doesn't do it easily, but he knows how important the mission is compared to 1 life even his best friend. Then him killing the woman whose defenseless and begging. Not really something you see from your protagonist that often, he isn't the "hero" who can save everyone and get out of every situation, but someone who can do despicable things and make hard choices.
Agreed
I think letting Edgar die was a great scriptwriting move. It showed how focused and determined he was, whilst he loved his friend he didnt place his life above all the others fighting and dying. Traits of a real leader, not allowing his personal feelings to get in the way of objectives and minimising loses to his side rather than himself.
Tentons O'fun i agree with you. and i think it’s unfair to suddenly view a selfish, dictating asshole as a defenceless victim when it’s convenient; personally i thought was fair of him to kill her, she certainly didn’t have any sympathy as she watched a guy’s arm freeze over and shatter and ultimately all the other times she mandated the same thing.
@@barrylyndon5552 thanks to people like you I can get glimpses into the thought processes of regular people who supported Hitler till the end.
3 he said he will never hate a person named bong. And he sinned it anyway.
Thank you so much for removing two sins for the "They´ve got no bullets!"-Scene. ´Cause that sh*t is epic!!
Where did Timmy get his perfectly fitting furcoat from?
Looks like Fallout Vault on rails!
+Herp Derpingson They never found the mythical living quarters.
It was at the tail section
+Herp Derpingson no it wasn't. Except if you mean for the extremely poor people, then yes. For everyone else, no living quarters where ever shown. They didn't even care about the linear construction of a train, that making people walk the entire length of the train to go to school was probably a bad idea. They didn't address that because except for the poor and the conductor, no one lived anywhere. 100s and 100s of people sleeping on the floor. It's symbolism. It's crap.
+Herp Derpingson nothing like the waterchip breaking.
+Herp Derpingson, that became EXTREMELY apparent with the propaganda video bit. Almost made me want to ask, "So, which vault did these people come from? 111? 8? 69?"
"I am NEVER going to hate a film directed by a guy named Bong, okay?!"
*Ding* +1 Sin
WHY?!
Aerys Gaming Because sinning the movie isn’t the same as hating it.
omnicowdemon But...he sinned it because the korean director has a “funny” name?
I don't like playing the card, but how is that not racist?
yeah, he sins a lot of things he actually likes, bacause haha so quirky and funny
OuR vIdEoS aRe SaTiRe
This movie gave me anxiety, when the train almost fell at the “IMPACT”! Part
00:25 "This actor has been in other movies" *Ding*
Never change, Jeremy.
It was a direct reference to the scene where the man refuses to kneel before Loki in the Avengers.
When Curtis opens the hatch in the food processing machine, I actually think that CGI is poorly done because they replaced what was originally there, in post-production. In the story where this is based from the train is much bigger (1000+ cars) and there's a reason why both food and water plants are between the two population groups. They literally drank and ate shit from the upper class, and I think that made it on to the movie. It explains why they always mention it just by "shit" even after knowing it was processed bugs, and why he looks so disgusted. He ate babies, I'm assuming that eating a few crickets isn't all that bad, since it's actual food in some parts of the world. Everything else in the movie, CGI wise, is amazingly good looking, except for those bugs. I think it was a poor post-production fix because they thought implying they literally ate shit was a bit too much for their audience.
That would make sense - I remember thinking, "after everything you've apparently been through, why is ground-up bug so bad?" Hell, people in modern society eat bugs in some cultures.
I thought all the outside shots of the train was pretty crap
In Le Transperceneige they ate "Mama" a bizarre protein which regenerates itself and is housed in it's own car but which they are perpetually afraid won't regenerate, Rats, Rabbits, and the first class ate produce that they grew. I'm not sure where you are getting that they literally drank and ate shit from the upper class.
Ocular Bleach hell I've eaten bugs and they don't taste bad. They taste more like puffed rice.
They left some great stuff out. Like the whole religion based around The Engine? So much good stuff.
Still, the film was amazing.
"But did you eat baby?"
When you're friend starts complaining about irrelevant shit
LMAO
+J158n
LMMFAO
That got me too! >in tears!
That's racist
lol
Officially using that now
Tilda Swindon is using a Yorkshire accent not a Cockney accent
I'm glad someone else said it. It annoys me how little awareness Americans have about British accents.
I literally paused the video to scroll down the comments hoping someone else pointed this out 👍🏻
James Newcombe not to mention she nailed this I had know clue it was her till about 1 hour in
@@NateApplicable Americans think we're just one big cockney island.
Oh no people can’t distinctly label another country’s many accents! People here in the US can’t even tell you where our own accents come from so how the hell do you expect them to know another country’s accents? 😂😂😂
Edgar's mother died when he was a baby. There's never any mention of his father. He was presumably raised by Gilliam, Curtis et al. So my question is, where did he get his Irish accent from?
There's no indication Gilliam raised him. If anything, his Irish accent indicates he was raised by Irish folk on the train.
He got it from Liam nesson in unknown 😂
0:13 _"Look, I am NEVER going to hate a film directed by a guy named Bong, okay?!"_
Me: And that's a sin?
The sins are useless. They've got no sins. They used up all their sins 4 years ago in the les mes revolt.
+Raz Edits Haha good one
Infernape he just adds a "sin" every time he says something
Raz Edits you deserve a 🏅 for that wordplay
The director's name is "JoonHo" not "Bong" btw, Korean names have first/last names switched places.
Also, how in eighteen years no one spot any survivors, animal or otherwise but then right when it crashes one just appears?
*+George Broughton* lol, add it to the list
+George Broughton It's implied that when the Chinese/Korean/Japanese man looked out the window in the greenhouse car that he saw an animal.
+Billiam Clinton I thought he saw the plane wreck which he used as a guide to show the snow melting away?
+Khaleel Rahman That was a different scene. That was during the tunnel fight scene with the axes and hooded men. The greenhouse seen is later.
Khaleel Rahman how did that dude see that with a his eyes
You forgot an important thing:
WHERE DID THE KIDS GO WHEN THE TEACHER PULLED OUT THE WEAPON? That’s a serious dilemma! I literally kept thinking about it till the end.
Also,where are the toilets?! Especially in the lower part of the train!.
The tail people boarded without permission. They weren’t planned so that’s why they had no food
that makes alot more sense thanks
Yes that’s what I said but to me that was only explained in the series and not the movie so I think that’s why he gave it a sin since the series hadn’t e out yet.
socalspirit805 it’s kind of explained in the move in Mason’s Speech
“In the beginning the social order was determined by one’s ticket, First class, economy, and Free-loathers like you” so it’s implied they didn’t contribute and I inferred they boarded without permission.
I think its better not to know where they are from because the movie tells you that they are a part of the system and since the movie is a movie about capitalism its more fitting. The poor are a part of the system as well and no intruder.
Isn't it possible we didn't see EVERY single car they traversed through??
+KeithWithoutACrew It's worth noting that this was based on a French graphic novel "Le Transperceneige" and in that version the train was 1001 cars long. So yeah, they probably skipped through a lot
It's been too long since I saw the movie, but when that assassin guy shoots through the window at Chris Evans, how many train cars does it show between them? I think I remember it being more cars than they possibly could have walked through on screen.
charles jones and the train in the movie was 60 cars long
SenorPredo - Realistic Minecraft Roller Coasters unless the track was banked inward like at least 30°, it wouldn't have
They most likely transverse through because this is a two hour movie and it would be kind of boring if they just showed every single car which according to the comic were like more than 1000
I'm laughing because the whole thing with the school car always bugged me too.
Mr. Cardboard it’s more the logistics of this whole thing. How many cars are on this thing and how many people do people have to go through everyday. How many times has class been interrupted by someone heading to the club or going through the restaurant because they’re ODing. Idk it just makes for some awkward but comical situations in my opinion.
The very next car was a residential car so that is probably where the families lived.
@@mr.cardboard3723 Feel bad for wilford though. Poor guy can't even get to the sushi bar without going through the club filled with drugged people. The way he organized the train just completely fucked himself up.
@@theruoc147 there is a tunnel underneath with a kind of train inside and the train is 1001 cars long
There’s a shot where you can see how long the train is, many more carts then we see in the movie
The scene where Curtis and the others are fighting the car with all the masked weaponized guys, and them cutting into the fish, dipping their axes into blood, is actually an old practice. Dipping a sharp weapon into animal blood, feces, or any kind of contamination before battle is to infect the enemies blood so if they don't die from a blow, they will die from illness. It was a practiced in ancient times before going to war, before guns were created. I do like your videos, and want to see more. We really need the comedy during this time. Thank you for entertaining us.
I think it became against the geneva convention with the three-sided knife and the musket. Flintlocks leave a gash that /will/ infect
Fish blood acts like an anti-cougulant i think, if one of those axes glanced off you and just cut you the bleeding wouldn't stop for awhile, to use it as a bio weapon the fish would have to be rotting or have some sort of disease/infection already in its blood or guts to pass on.
11:49 Have you ever tried talking on the phone for hours and holding the phone with just one hand? That arm will fall off by the end yo.
Do you use two arms to hold your cell phone? Maybe steve jobs was right about the importance of slimming down consumer tech.
I enjoyed this movie, but the hand-to-hand combat scene with the soldiers wearing hoods over their eyes was fucking stupid. Like he said, "How do they justify wearing hoods that cover their eyes?" It's never explained. It's just something completely random they tossed in. Was it to add to the surrealistic aspect?
+Blake J. Stone Wasn't it to foreshadow the need for night vision goggles?
It was a stylistic choice, much the same as the buttons on the front of Vader's costume. How it functions isn't important because it isn't crucial to the plot. If it looks cool and doesn't take the audience out of the film then it's all good.
*+Matthew Aubry* Vader's buttons imply some useful functionality. There is nothing useful about those hoods.
goodvibrato Yeah there is. They're ominous as FUCK! I see that in a train car and I'm quitting the rebellion right now. Also the function they obviously served was to keep blood out of their eyes. Not some 'implied' functionality. Don't defend Vader's buttons, it makes you look like a whiny fanboy.
+Matthew Aubry I see guys wearing hoods that cover their eyes and i'm MORE likely to fight them because they're blind.
Snowpiercer was an extremely overlooked movie for some odd reason. Though I would have liked it to be discussed by someone who is not telling us everything wrong with it, I still am extremely thankful to CinemaSins for bringing this to the attention of many people in hopes that more people look it up, watch it, and talk about it to bring more attention to the movie.
+Jeff Cares Well, it certainly caught my attention!
watch every frame a paintings video on it its great
+Jeff Cares Renegade Cut made a video on it and the director in general who is probably the second most respected director in South Korea right behind the guy who made Oldboy.
+Jeff Cares The train is a metaphor for our society
+Jeff Cares I read somewhere that the reason it never really got looked at in America is because the creators thought that Americans wouldn't get such a complex movie, so they never bothered to release it. But then, Netflix picked it up and people started watching it and it gained a cult following.
The thing that killed me the most was the part where he looked horrified that he was eating bugs but he ate a baby once
This is apparently because in the novel, it's not bugs, but literal waste from the upper class cars. They were literally eating bars of shit. Apparently they filmed that originally, but post-editing decided it was too much for editing, hence the crappy CGI used in that one scene, when the rest has been great.
@@aetherofthenorth9700 that makes so much more sense and I wish they just left it alone lmao. Thanks for this trivia
@@aetherofthenorth9700 they kill each other with axes, talk about eating babies but shit bars were too much...
@@wiezyczkowatayes , they are too much .
I’m just using cinema sins to watch movies in shorter amounts of time
Same
You should watch this movie it's amazing
S7Robin I have, I didn’t really like it though
@@freshpeanut4967 Yeah I didn't like it either, was too 'avante-garde' for me. The scenes were shot in a chaotic manner.
@@s7robin105 no it was a shitty movie. and a very cheap political propaganda
"You think my room doesn't have it's own flaws? It's always noisy."
Room is incredibly quiet the whole time
*DING*
why every one else is living in luxury while the owner living in engine room lol
I think that just shows that he doesn't have any understanding of what those poor folk need to deal with
Plus, there was that moment when Harris said, "she's waking up,"
It got noisy then, but yeah... I could sleep through that...
clearly its noisy sometimes. otherwise he wouldnt have said it. most likely the engines or the kids running the engine screaming or smething. I dont think he says it randomly
R.I.P Alan Rickman
R.I.P we will always miss him
+Trumpepe Oh, shut up. He was an outstanding actor, he deserves some recognition for his services.
+Trumpepe Why are you so negative? It's doesn't suit you, brother.
what the f**k? is Alan Rickman dead? is this a joke? I'm panicking over here? give me answers! I'm about to Google this and if you're lying I'm going to be so disappointed in you.
+Hopeless Enough yeah he is dead. R.I.P.
0:14 in Korea first names are written after the surname, so his name is Joon ho, and his last name is Bong
but whatever, I guess
Yeah that always kind of annoyed me and the same goes for Kim Jong Un too because everyone calls him Kim but that's his last name really
@@brandonlo5162 Well, it's common to use last names when talking about politicians.
Most just call people by what they're most commenly referred to as.
If someone comes up and says "My name's John Smith, call me Smith", you call them Smith, instead of John.
it's funny that its the same thing the segurity guy points :D.. and call cap america "fucker"
0:32 those 2 are people who played the violinists. The other people are lined up to get their food
Glad to see the "They've got no bullets" scene was respected by you guys. Such an epic, albeit very small, scene.
Can you do "The martian"
+Pervy Sage why?
+Pervy Sage Weeaboo.
+Steven Wills i'll do the martian!
+Pervy Sage There's hate in that word.
+Steven Wills you should look up "honest trailers the martian"
i thought it was funny
“Entire movie will gloss over how this train is able to operate with frozen track conditions”
...
It’s.... it’s called the Snowpiercer...
Clearly naming the train "snowpiercer" embues it with the ability to survive those conditions. How could the critics have been so blind?
If you had a perpetual motion engine could you not have an underground bunker that is heated and supplied with electric for perpetuity?
@@OptimusJel its not really possible on earth to have a perpetual motion machine because energy will always be lost to the environment through heat or light.
One of the rails or about 6 to 8 inches wide
You should have done bonus scenes for all mentions of “Kronol”
I want cinemasins to have one episode where they literally just say "Nothing" and that's the end of the video
He implied maybe The Godfather is one such movie?...
You guys didn't mention the biggest sin of them all. Curtis had already messed up the train, it was slowing down and was gonna stop. So coudnt they fucking just wait for the train to be stopped before blowing up the damn door? There could have been a lot more then 2 survivors.
And dont give me that shit about them being scared of the ravers, they had guns! They were in absolutely no hurry to do this shit. Those guys are terrible heroes.
+giantWario I get the feeling that if they hadn't made the "bad guys" of the film so ridiculously hate-able and impossible to relate with, we would have been rooting for the elite the whole time.
+adoredpariah I still was! lol. I was like "Dont stop the train, you'll all die you idiots! Think of the ecosystem!"
+adoredpariah Why?
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Because like Wario's post points out, if you look closely the "heroes" are more like idiot jerks.
If they aren't endangering everyone on the train's lives, they are eating babies or running headlong into gun lines.
They had to make the "bad guys" so ridiculously over the top to distract from the fact the protagonist and story's heroes aren't very good.
"the world is going to end and be covered in ice."
"fuck it, build a never ending train.. Why? Because reasons, that's why."
TNT just started their version of Snowpiercer, and they explain how everyone gets around. There's a subway system that runs under the cars. It's tiny, but it's better than walking.
The show is really good
Also the show has way more cars than the movie did. 1001 to be exact. It obviously is hard to walk all the distance.
Мармеладов ТВ re phrase that for me please
@Мармеладов ТВ to generate heat and keep them from freezing to death.
Mohammad Zekereya thank you dude
Playing "Let it go" while the guy's arm was freezing off is just cruel Jeremy!! XD
"How old are you?"
"17"
Back away slowly dude!
*Lmfao*
Pssh. Still legal in most parts of the world.
I'd tap that, in Canada, Russia, China, India, Greenland, Iceland, Japan, Australia, New Zealand, anywhere in South America, most of the land area of the US, almost all of continental Europe, and the entire UK and Ireland.
** The chart I'm referencing was last updated 6 years ago, but yeah it's probably about the same
Not to mention almost all of the US.
Yea, but the age of adulthood is 19 in Korea, where this movie was made in.
+internationalpirate0 the age of consent in South Korea is 13
Still technically 18. Possibly 17 depending on when you were born in the year. Koreans are already 1 at birth. Hence why they have a Korean age and a "rest of the world" age.
Michael Caine impression. Even though shes clearly using a Northern accent and Caine is famously cockney.
Its like saying that Mark Wahlberg is doing a Dolly Parton impression when hes talking
It just confused me how disgusted they were when they saw that the protein blocks were made of bugs but eating people is okay I guess?
Torrin Owens eating people wasn’t okay. He was literally breaking down into tears remembering it. And just because one disgusting thing is gross doesn’t mean a less disgusting thing is no longer gross. That’s stupid logic.
@@yeahkeen2905 Hmm calling me stupid does really make me want to listen to you
Torrin Owens I didn’t call you stupid but okay. Either way it doesn’t make me wrong.
The story doesn't have a very solid base, but the acting and direction makes up for it imo. That last part about Curtis' cannabalism is so brilliant.
SarcastiCat But the ending fucks it all up
I think that ending was someone else's idea because they probably had no idea how a movie like this should end.
This is based off a book.
The ending is awesome
The ending is great it makes people think and feel hopeful and hopeless all at the same time
I'm wondering why CinemaSins didn't mentioned the egg scene
Bruh
And the guy killing a pregnant lady
@@micahbell9093 she deserved it... Also, double kill... *ding*
@@micahbell9093 or the bodyguard executing a random rich guy and one of his own soldiers for basically no reason
Hahahaha "suckit laws of thermo-dynamics," yep, that's what I was looking for.... As a railway worker the basic premise of the entire film sucks worse than The Core or Armageddon in terms of plausibility.
"Come with me, and you'll be...in a world of pure imagination "
Finally! Literally one of the worst movies I've ever seen
+Lullu Edge For real! I was starting to feel like I'm the only god damned sane person because it seems like everyone else in the comment section loved it. What a piece of shit movie. Packed to the brim with cliches (oh mai gawd the main character has to choose between saving his friend and moving forward with his goal in an extremely contrived scene how original), shitty writing ("AND I KNOW THAT BABIES TASTE BEST BOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"), terrible, and horrible CGI (except for the train crashing scene)
then you haven't seen many movies in your life.
+PARAN0IDxGERBIL completely agree. It was just random violence without a good story.
But Jeremy said he loved it. Maybe it is a good film, but the premise is too stupid for me to care.
I mean if you have ever tried to travel by train in Sweden during the winter you know how laughable this fucking movie is....
Sometimes, I watch these because I can't be arsed going out and actually seeing the film. Let alone wasting time downloading it. Oh, and because Cinema Sins is brilliant.
+Myles “Corey Grinder” Johnston Well this one was on Netflix for a while, if you have that. And You only get a small taste of the WTF present in the film in this sins video.
Mike E Oh yeah, I get that is what these are, for me though it gives me enough of a 'sense' of what the film is, you know? I don't remember it being on Netflix in Australia, maybe I wasn't looking hard enough. All good though.
Myles Johnston Well I'm USA, so maybe that was it. Stupid regionlocking on digital content.
Mike E All good, I had figured that could have been the reason. Yeah, it's a bit of a pain in the arse but, you never know what they might do in the future.
don't watch it's dreadfully boring
How about “Everything Wrong With Cinema Sins” we would need a 3 part series
Tyler Durden they already did that video twice
Whats the one rule?
“I am never going to hate a film directed by a guy named Bong.” You’re damn right!
Which also explains the logic, or lack thereof, of the whole damn movie. I am pretty sure you have to be drunk or on day 5 of insomnia to understand this ...whatever it is.
I still don't understand why he had to sacrifice his arm to block the cogs and save the kid. He had chairs, tables and even the bald dude's body to use, why did he chose to maim himself, except for the symbol?
God this is an old comment, but I just felt like adding my interpretation of the answer.
Curtis makes a pretty blunt point about midway through the movie that he felt regret for still having both arms. This is inferred to be both because he hadn't sacrificed it by standing up in an act of revolt and being forced to lose it, or by voluntarily sacrificing his arm to feed the masses. He held Gilliam in high regard for his sacrifice.
So, when he saw Timmy trapped down there, after promising Tanya he'd save him, that was his moment of sacrifice. This was him giving his arm in the same way Gilliam did, and so many others did. It's not so much symbolism as it is the conclusion of his arc. He went from unable to make that sacrifice, and not believing himself to be a leader, to being forced to be a leader, to finally taking on that role and making the needed sacrifice.
Finding plot holes in Snowpiercer is like finding plot holes in Animal Farm or a Dr. Seuss book. It's meant to be more allegorical than anything else
This, I'm not even a particular fan of this movie but this video is just so stupid and doesn't get the point at all. Well, what did I expect coming here from the baby driver analysis.
Taking Cinema Sins seriously and complaining how he doesn't get movies is like assuming that furries in bear costumes are real bears and complaining that they don't maul people in a realistic fashion.
And doing this on a Snowpiercer video is some kind of next level of irony lol
@LightNessITA it's just an entertainment video which can have anything and everything. There are serious points, joke points, self aware bad joke points, recurring points, recurring nonsensical points, points making fun at himself, etc. It's just a guy talking about movies in this weird format.
left wing allegory.
@Roseki they should really center on the fact it's about "spreading the wealth around"
The film would have been a whole lot more easy to swallow if the train was really wide and had multiple storeys , having it designed like a normal train made no sense whatsoever. Probably would have worked better as an anime as well
I was literally told to watch this by someone who knew I like Attack on Titan. AoT is leagues better. XD
I don't know if you ever held a phone for HOURS but people tend to switch the arm with which they keep the phone up, which is why Wilford mentions that Gillian could talk for hours despite having just one arm....
Thank you guys for introducing me to this film last year. My favorite movie of the year
Also, might be a tv show coming...
+Trevor Coyle Good to know I'm not the only one that absolutely adored this film. I notice something new every time I watch.
better the movie -- the less amount of time needed to sin. Awesome movie, awesome sins video
Glad to see you here man, we are always between the first who sees the video
+fabrizzio Aldana always anxious to see things I missed
*+Couch Tomato* lol what? The average length of a Cinema Sins video is about this long.
+goodvibrato a few lately have been like 20 mins lol
+riflemanusa why is that?
This movie is amazing. Poor judgment, friend.
Why is everything a sin even when you like it. You're like "Oh look at that, that's clever narration!" **ding**
Still don't quite understand the popularity of this movie. Sure, it's certainly not awful, but felt a little too ridiculous for how serious it was trying to be. A decent movie, but with a terrible ending. "What!? We have to use a child to keep the train running? Might as well kill everybody then."
+David Gunn I enjoyed it for the social commentary, as it is an allegory for class struggle and marxist uprising. It's not really a movie to take so literally
+David Gunn Like the guy before said it is a social commentary - child in the engine is basically this Chinese child that build your iphone :)
+Dawn Wolcott Indeed, but it's a really **bad** allegory for class struggle. Class struggle, loosely, refers to the bourgeoisie feeding off the working proletariat. The main thing missing in the movie is the working proletariat. The tail passengers actually have a sweet deal - they've been spared the freezing apocalypse outside and all they do is lay on their backsides all day while being fed protein bars (which seem pretty nutritious - Chris Evans looks healthier than I'll ever be). Not for free, mind you - every now-and-then one of their children is taken . But this is a far cry from a predatory capitalist system. It's more of a utopia that sustains itself with regular sacrifices - like the morlocks and the eloi.
Sebastian Baculea See, that's how I saw it honestly. I mean, as bad as it is being in that situation at the end of the day, they're spared a freezing death. There's always going to be a divide between the haves and the have nots, but let's face it, if they had actually taken over the front section and the roles were reversed, would *they* have been willing to give everyone an even share? Doubtful. Every group wants equality until they start thinking how much better superiority is.
+David Gunn I think you're giving the film too much credit on its political premise. It doesn't deserve to be debated because it doesn't offer any kind of valid commentary. It's very poorly thought out.
I think the polar bear ate them at the end. It looked over to where they were, and polar bears don't play.
MrHeems polar bears don't play 😂😂😂💀💀💀
“Back away slowly dude.” Fucking lost my shot ❤️
You've forgot the scene where his saying "You are the first man in history that walked from the tail to the front" when literally the yellow suit women and the two kids were in both in tail and engine.
Yeah but the dude has been all the way in the front and back
He fought his way there
Thank you. I thought Wilford just chose a specific part of the world to circle so that all the people on the train would see is death and ice and believe him. The polar bear gave it all away..
I think they explain general idea in the movie, no? The world was actually frozen but is slowly thawing. Wilford was as clueless as the rest in that regard, otherwise he would've simply stopped the train and used the slaves he had build new authoritarian society.
@@NJ-wb1cz Yes, it's slowly thawing but what the hell would he use to build and sustain a society and a still frozen world. He already has a sustainable ecosystem in the train in which I'm pretty sure would be difficult to sustain outside of the train
@@kevinbanh5421 his train ecosystem is wholly dependent on people not being able to leave the train. Remember those three corpses? If the next bunch of people would survive the escape then they could simply destroy the tracks and ambush Wilford.
The moment the world starts being barely habitable his only chance to protect the society he created is to stop the train and c create a settlement around the free energy machine.
Geeze, I see a lot of hate for this movie in the comments, but no real legitimate criticisms made. Come on, people, it seems like you're just hating it for the sake of hating it. Come up with something more intelligent. Sheesh.
+Wraith Wrecker Geez I see a lot of love for this movie in the comments (I really have, btw), but no real reasons given. It seems like you're just loving it for the sake of "getting its 'deep and thought-provoking/original plot'" that really isn't any of those things. Come up with something more supportable. Sheesh.
+Wraith Wrecker Don't get me wrong, I don't hate it... I simply see through the pandering pseudo-intelligent themes and messages to find that not only does it fail to serve its purpose, it focused to much on its point to properly explain itself. MANY of the comments stating that it was "fantastic", "outstanding", etc. only said that and gave no reason leaving one with the impression they were either joining the bandwagon of love or that they didn't see past its façade into its flaws. And those that argued with those that called it out went with the "you simply failed to capture its deep/insightful/meaning... you are (too young/dumb/etc) to understand" argument.The fairest comments about this movie were middle of the road, they pointed out the enjoyed its visual differences but that the plot was lacking.
jtq1995 The filmmaking(camerawork, lighting, editing) was superb, the acting was wonderful, the action was very well done, the social commentary was powerful(something very rarely seen in Hollywood), the characters were convincing and had motives(more than can be said of most movies). I could go on, but you get the point. People saying this movie is a piece of shit are just wrong. And keep in mind that it's Bong Jun-Ho's english debut. For a debut into Hollywood, I'd say it's a raging success(its marketing was awful though. Barely anyone saw it in theaters).
If you don't mind, WHAT exactly do YOU qualify as "pandering"? Most Marvel movies are full of what I'D call pandering, but I don't see ANY of that in Snowpiercer. And what about the plot was lacking? I felt the plot was very compelling and something we've not really seen much of in other movies.
Sure, the movie has some flaws, but there's too much excellent filmmaking, performance, etc for me to hate it. And besides, the concept is not cliche and compared to other movies, this one is nearly devoid of cliches in general.
The thing I like most about the movie is that it's ambitious. The school scene, the nightvision goggle scene, the new years' egg scene, the scene when they're shooting at each other from different train cars, etc. The ideas behind those scenes would be shot down in a splitsecond by Hollywood producers and I applaud the filmmakers for gambling on them, because they worked.
So when you say, "The plot is lacking", what do you mean? What exactly was "lacking"? I don't see it, to be honest.
+Badger0fDeath I felt like the action scene between the guys in leather jackets was pretty epic though. idk if it was just me but you can almost see the rage in the lower class people mixed with the sort of pseudo entertainment that the leather jacket guys had.
+Wraith Wrecker Being a corporation hating liberal even I thought the class warfare theme was extremely heavy handed. Maybe they were trying to make it so ham fisted that even the typical 24 hour news network bred and raised American dumb ass got it. But I think it could have done with some subtlety.
I'm almost afraid to ask what he thinks of the Netflix series XD
5:33 this part always makes me laugh. the camera faces her and then shes like "WHAT ARE YOU DOING DONT LOOK AT ME"
Such an underrated "4th wall breaking" scene
True end to this movie is when the polar bears see the last survivors they eat them.
And there turns out to be no toilets in the train
Ok so... in the novel the “food” the tail section eats is literal shit, like in the movie they call it “shit” so it’s likely that the cgi bugs were a quick fix
Is nobody going to mention the fact that when they were passing through the rave train they only grabbed two fur coats, both big enough for adults, yet at the end of the movie, the kid, Tim, walks out of the train wearing snow boots and a coat that both perfectly fit him? And how did Yona get snow boots?? And why were ravers wearing snow gear?.....
They probably took it from the angry people who came from the club to fight them.
@@weirdvevoproduction But the kid din't have it on when the lady walked from the train. Then the kid followed her after a moment and had it.. No way the kid could've gotten it on his own. Also, the clubbers had a young kid sized jacket with them? Makes no sense to me..
How is “cleverly disguised narration” a cinema sin?
Tom Doyle Cause it is still narration, me thinks.