Physician Dies After Illegally Riding in Trailer to Watch Eclipse | Monika Woroniecka Case Analysis
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You've just described my ex-husband. High IQ, post grad, masters, professional qualifications, yet no common sense. He literally blew himself up twice. Once, by spraying a flammable spray onto a hot gas pipe and once by sticking a screwdriver into the motor of a vacuum cleaner that was still plugged in 🙄 Intelligence doesn't always equal sense.
And married unwisely.
Yes, shamudogsmith, you have described my father perfectly. He stuck his fingers into the blades of an electric grass cutter while it was switched on! He was lucky! His fingers survived intact and healed up! That was only one incident of many!
That’s a fact. Most people who are easily conned, are also highly intelligent.
My parents knew a firefighter who was messing around in his garage with gasoline, and there was an ignition source present. Of all the people who should have known better! As I recall, his choices that day were fatal.
@@jbuckley2546 typical anonymous troll with nothing to add to the conversation.
It is illegal to ride in a towed trailer because it is DANGEROUS.
What makes it so dangerous?
Only Illegal for the "Normal" people.
CLDS man had 7 people in a Uhaul trailer......No Crime committed 🤯🤯
Well for starters there are no seatbelts.
WRONG! Its illegal because it fun!
@melistasy did you not just see the story this video is about?
Intelligence is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing you don't put it in a fruit salad.
Maybe unless the tomatoes have a sweet flavor?
@@estherbrown4084 No!
Well, you're almost right. It's closer to a fruit than a vegetable, but botanically, it's classified as a berry.😁
knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Intelligence & wisdom are knowing you don't put it in a fruit salad.
@@ntme9 tomato is botanically a berry.
When cars had doors that opened like that, they were called suicide doors. This story illustrates why.
That happened to my ex-wife when she was a small child. For whatever reason the door opened and she fell out. They said if she had not been clutching her dolly at the time it happened her injuries could have been much worse as the doll helped to cushion the impact as she fell onto the pavement.
yeah, back then it was more dangerous to sit in the back seat due to the risk the door would fly open and you would fly out; also almost no one wore seatbelts back then making the whole thing that much more dangerous.
Sucked out of rear passenger four door Nash 'bathtub as child in 1949. Same design..
@aegisofhonor what? Lol. Very very few cars had doors that opened that way.
The story illustrates why dumbasses die in weird ways!
The one thing this incident shows us is that we are here one minute and gone the next.
But much more likely, it teaches us that you NEVER, NEVER, NEVER ride Ina trailer. Besides being stupid, it's against the law for just such reasons.
only if you're dumb
Such a profound thought. Thanks for sharing 😂🤣🤪
Comment of the day. I bet this point was missed by 99% of people watching this video. We must live each day like it is our very last; because it may very well be.
@@ronniemead805 u never know it's sad though
Who else thought this video about a woman sneaking into the back of a tractor trailer to hitch a ride to the eclipse
😂guilty
I did lmao
100 percent what i thought
Yes I did.
Just opened the video and thought that's what I would be watching lol.
Riding in a small trailer can also disrupt the weight distribution, which can destabilize sway control.
The last 20 minutes of the trip has the same risk of the previous 8 hours.
Exactly -- it's like jumping to your death from 10000 feet -- the first 9998 are fine
😂😂😂😂😂
The first 20 times I played Russian roulette were fine😉it was that last one😵
My son used his bike to go less than half a mile. He didn't bother to put his helmet on properly and needed his jaw screwed back together as a result.
not when we analyze it from a time perspective. speed, yes. it is risky behavior whether it is performed in the first 8 hours or the last 20 seconds,.the behavior does however become riskier as the speed of the vehicle increase, because there is no risk when the camper is stationary.
Such a sad story. One instance of poor judgement ended a life, destroyed a couples plans for retirement and left two adult daughters motherless. 😢
This is a very sad story.
May God comfort this family, so very sad. ✝️
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Three adult daughters * very sad
And while he assigns much blame on her, I think the driver should also be held responsible; so now there are 2 intelligent adults making poor decisions.
My ex-husband is a genius and a moron. He taught himself IBM mainframe programming in his spare time. He also ran my lambs' wool sweater through the dryer and ruined it. He asked me how he was supposed to know it was wool and I showed him the tag and said, "It says 100% lambs' wool in five different languages, all of which you can read. Which of those five languages did you not understand?" His response was that he doesn't need to read tags because they're for "stupid housewives."
This goes a long way towards explaining why he is my EX-husband.
Isn't it funny the sweater shrinks, the lamb doesn't.
Omg……you made me laugh out loud. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
This should have been on I Love Lucy!!!!!
I used to ask my engineer husband to please not leave his brains at work. Seems like he never listened to me, and left them at work anyway. When they let him go, I think he still left his brains at work. One way to explain his dementia, I guess... I won't divorce him, because I don't want to foist him on someone else.
Most men would put the jumper in dryer/washing machine because that's just men..
I had no idea you weren't supposed to ride in the trailer. This is a great public service announcement.
Same here
Same! I used to ride in the bed of pickup trucks when I was a teenager, too...
Same here!
RTFM
WOW! Two people with doctor's degrees couldn't prevent a death from a simple safety violation. Moreover, the daughter still blames the door for being installed in the wrong direction. A family without the common sense.🙄
That is ridiculous. The cause is the fact they were riding in a trailer!!! She wouldn't have died had she been in a car!! The only one to blame is themsrlves.
@@ArtistCreek Sadly the wife wanting to ride in the trailer and her husband in control of the tow vehicle allowing not only his wife but his daughter as well to ride in the trailer. Fault lies with both the husband and wife for both choosing a poor safety decision that day however its easy for us to point fingers after the fact as everything could have gone just fine instead had she stayed away from the door.
The fact that the doctor was responsible for her accidental death does not diminish the great loss to the patients she served or the immesurrable grief to her family, friends and colleagues at Stony Brook Hospital. RIP Doctor and thank you for the many children you dedicated your professional life to.
Yea I don't think anyone said otherwise or would disagree.
@FakeMailElection people calling her stupid isn't nice though. She's dead. No need to point that out. It's rude. Everyone makes mistakes and most just get lucky.
Thanks Respectful observation
@@FakeMailElection Recently this channel has become a place for knocking everyone no matter what. Lots of people in the comments are being asses and I think that's what tamedshew was referring to. Dr. Grande needs to start exercising his responsibility as the owner of this channel and start blocking or stop thinking everyone is his to comment on.
@@diannew6066this is why I refuse to read comments. Most people are asinine. You should do the same.
Sad but avoidable. It's sorta like people that take their chances riding in the bed of a truck. It's okay until it's not.
I can’t believe this is legal where I live 😮 If it’s illegal to drive without your seatbelt how can it be legal to drive with people in the bed of a truck
I’ll take my chances. I don’t live in fear
@@ericpetersen8155neither do I but I look both ways before I cross the road, that way I can not live in fear for a little bit longer.
@@ericpetersen8155
You go do that lol
@@757Princess it's legal in my state too and you'll see teenagers sitting in the bed of their parent's truck on the interstate. I'm just looking at them like man they're going to fly if there's an accident.
RIP. My heart goes out to her family, especially her daughter, who witnessed her demise.
I had an experience with the same situation. Driving out to Berkley from Boulder for summer school with two other students, I came upon a young boy covered in blood and sand on the side of the road in western Colorado. He had been riding in the towed trailer with his younger brother who dared him to lean out the door. So he did. The trailer went over a big bump in the road and he fell out onto the side of the road, tore his hand partially off at the wrist and skinned himself up pretty badly. His wrist broke off at the outside, leaving the main artery intact, luckily! I put him in the front seat, made him drink a coke to keep his blood sugar up because he was in shock. Then I turned around and drove back east to ask some cowboys I had seen along the road herding cattle what to do and where to go for help. One of them jumped in with us and we drove back to Grand Junction to the hospital. The police found the parents. The parents and the sheriff thanked me. I said, "If you need help, ask a hippie!" We laughed and I was off again to California. That night I broke down and cried. Luckily, one of the boys with me was studying medicine and could explain the bones and structure of the bloody wrist, scientifically speaking, which helped to calm me down. I'm a farmer's daughter, so it wasn't the blood, but the broken limb that freaked me out. We were lucky that God provided all the help we needed in that situation. Don't ride in trailers, and teach your kids not to accept a dare from anyone!
@@Cold_Hard_Truth LOL! I can never remember how to spell Berkeley correctly! I'm hopeless! Hope it gave you a giggle! Intensive summer Japanese.
So sad how one small moment and lack of good judgment could end a life.
I don't feel it was a lack of judgment at all. What are the chances that she would be hurt in a trailer. 600, 000 to 1? Something like that. I was hit by lightning and I am still here to talk about it. It was just bad luck.
@nakedkitten I'm so sorry you were struck by lightning, and I'm happy you lived to tell about it. But chances are you weren't breaking the law when you got struck- you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. This doctor though was breaking the law and put herself in a dangerous position she wouldn't have been in if she obeyed the law. I still feel sorry for her; but there is a lesson to be learned from her mistake. That's just my take on it...
@@peachespendergrass1112 She also put her own daughter at risk!
If someone still doesn't believe being in trailer is risky just go watch accident videos and take a look at what's left. Now imagine someone being in there.
@@disbelief3911 So true- I forgot the daughter was with her. She could've lost her life too if there was an accident. I completely agree with you! I really hope people learn from this😔.
@@nakedkittenThe chance of being hurt in a trailer is slightly higher than the chance of a car being involved in ANY accident, including a minor one. A minor accident in a car can easily be fatal in a trailer.
This law is there precisely because trailers are inherently dangerous on the move. I can see why she made the mistake with the door - it is very sad and would catch many people out - but most people wouldn’t ride in a trailer.
No mention is made that the weight of two adults can destabilise a trailer, causing it to snake and crash - invariably the trailer overturns and often takes the car with it. So the mere presence of passengers in a moving trailer can directly cause a very dangerous accident (though it didn’t here).
This is a sad story. So sorry for her family’s loss.
This may be a bit harsh, but clever sillies can do their bit towards survival of the fittest - they will pass away before being able to breed. (Although in this case that didn't happen)
I keep stating to folk.......When You fall the Floor will always catch You!
just so very sad for them...
I am not trying to be hateful when I say this, however I've noticed that some people are most happy when they are doing whatever it is that they want to do no matter how bizarre it is just because they can. This was a doctor who did this and I personally expect a person like this who is educated, a mother and a wife to be able to decide not to do things like this and to know better. It's hard to feel sorry for people who cause they're own demise. Also her family is in heavy denial of exactly why this tragedy took place, trying to cover up that this was they're own fault. It makes me angry to see people behave like sheep, following they're own understanding and losing their precious lives in the process.
@@MsAchampion If she was behaving like a sheep , she wouldn't have been in the caravan while it was being towed . most people would not do this so its not sheep like behaviour lol
I feel like almost any of us can make a fatal decision or judgement call. It happens. It's very sad. I personally would never have rode in the trailer. But I could see myself - not thinking - and trying to shut that door. So sad. Rest in peace.
Very true. I've kept my guardian angel busy saving my skin plenty over the past 68 years.
You are one of the most honest people to post here. Almost everyone else is acting like they have never or would never do anything similar to this yet they ALL have! Thanks for telling the truth and not punching down just because it's easier than telling the truth.
That was very nicely said. Thank you.
@@nakedkittenit's kind of the psychology behind victim blaming. People want to believe that we live in a fair and just world and nothing bad could ever happen to them. Therefore when things happen to other people, they don't want to believe that something like this could happen to them, so they have mindsets like this.
I seriously doubt we could look at all of the events in any commenter's life and fail to find at least one stupid decision that could have led to death.
@@jasonlongie1659 ❤️
I opened my office's outside door, not realizing how hard the wind was blowing. The door turned into a sail, and jerked me outside so fast I couldn't turn loose of the door handle. It was about a 10" drop down to the sidewalk. I was really lucky not to get hurt.
During Hurricane Katrina, I stopped at the store on my way home from work. When I opened my car door (while parked) the wind ripped the door wide open... Mind you this was several hundred miles away in Atlanta.
Owned a trailer camper for years and the way those things move... would never have dared risk travelling in it.
Same! I towed to totality last weekend and when I saw this… my first thought was how uncomfortable it would be. There is *no* suspension! I’m sure the manual said not to ride in the trailer!
There was little risk travelling in it, she opened the door and yeeted herself down the road.
@@OtisFlint I can’t speak for all travel trailers, I can tell you that my travel trailer bounces enough over potholes and rough seams and curb cuts that you would not be safe riding in it even if the doors were secure. Probably not fatal, but probably could fracture something, including your head, if you were positioned wrong when it hit a bump.
@@MotJ949 5th wheels actually ride pretty good. I admit to riding in them a couple times (5th wheel passengers are legal in my state as long as you have radio communication with the driver). Personally I cannot fathom messing with the door at all while in motion either way it opens... lack of common sense was a big issue here.
Wouldn’t dream of allowing a pet to ride in the trailer let alone a person.
Dr Grande, you have done a great public safety service with this video.
yes, now hundreds of muppets will try it out too
@@ursodermatt8809 Funny, but in fact her death probably saved others from a similar fate, including children.
@@craigfinnegan8534exactly!
Agreed!
It's a very sad story, there is no going back, it's final.
This video is a good warning.
All three made a regrettable mistake and the surviving family realize it. No need to deride them any further. Rest in peace, Dr. Monica.
What. If getting the word out involves ridicule, then so be it. It is no longer about her. It's about the people that will learn it is ILLEGAL.
@@mas5867 I think the message is out and it doesn't have to include ridicule.
Thank you so much. I couldn't agree more. I'm so appreciative of the kinder comments I see. I think many of the comments here are so needlessly cruel. This disheartening era we are in when people see themselves as ultimate judges --- casting harsh judgement on *everything* . This was a split-second poor decision that in the moment seemed completely innocuous. Someone lost their life in an accident and people believe the public response should be cruelty and disparaging commentary. If that doesn't perfectly sum up what is wrong with human behavior right now, I don't know what will.
@@mas5867 Ridicule. Really. Over someone losing their life. I think I feel sorry for you. I cannot even imagine lacking sentiment to this level.
@@Megan.eco-Instinct over being stupid, why not?
Very tragic and an outstanding example of what can happen in an instant when you make a risky decision. There is a reason riding in a hitched trailer is illegal.
Really? you don't say...
This reminds me that in Japanese we have a term 専門バカ (senmon baka). It refers to a specialist who does stupid things. For example, a doctor spent all of his younger years immersed in studying and nothing else, then continued to be immersed in his or her field. Because they're so sheltered from the rest of life outside of their field, they're pretty stupid about really basic things sometimes. "Senmon" refers to being a specialist, and "baka" means stupid. Also, it's like how George Bush Sr. was once in a photo op at a grocery store and was bewildered by the barcode scanner. That technology had been around for years, but he had no clue about it because he lived in his own world apart from the common person.
I once saw an episode of Oprah where she went on a roadtrip. She didn’t know how to use the gas pump. Also, when she went to Walmart for the first time, she entered the front of the store through the short door designed for the cart handler to return the shopping carts.
In French : 'Idiot savant.'
She was Polish, a people not famous for their intelligence
I am going to guess that she never spent any time working in the ER, most doctors and well anyone that does ends up really well grounded in the ways things can go wrong.
its like our prime minister raising taxes on common household items like milk, the outcry was so intense he had to admit he didnt think it was a common item that everyone bought daily, he thought only the upper classes could afford milk. truly disconnected. He even admitted after a string of card fraud crimes in the country, that he had never used an ATM in his entire life.
As an ex ambo and mortician, sometimes it amazes me what some people think is a good idea, at the time.
One of the things people new to travel trailers soon learn is that they are indeed rough riding. After having to put things back in their place that fell off shelves and out of kitchen cupboards on the way to the campground, these new owners often find themselves having to invest in various organizers and restraints for their dishes and other items. My parents' first trailer had "positive" latches that required you to manipulate them to open and close the cupboard doors. They couldn't just swing open, so we didn't really experience the effects of motion on the trailer contents.
The door latch for the entry door was another matter. After our first night sleeping in our brand new trailer hundreds of miles from home, we woke up to find that the entry door would not open. It's a good thing my brother and I, being curious, had earlier discovered the emergency exit window. Dad sent my brother out the window with the car keys to fetch tools from the car. The latch was fixed, and never gave us trouble again.
The advantage of the trailer's vigorous motion is that you can put your dirty clothes in a bucket of soapy water, suspend it in the shower on a bungee cord, and at your next stop your clothes will be thoroughly agitated. I believe you're supposed to close the shower door for this operation.
Good post, and I agree with you. We've owned a mid sized, duel axle camper for 8 years, but before we even set foot on a sales lot to look at campers, we spent a few months researching EVERYTHING about owning a camper. It's similar to buying a second home- you need to know ALL about it. When we were ready to purchase, we knew exactly what we wanted, including price range, and guess what? That's right, we got exactly what we wanted, in our price range! We would NEVER own a single axle trailer, even our boat is a duel axle trailer.
@@Bassingal My parents actually had a leaf spring break while they were headed home on the I-5 in the mountains north of Los Angeles. They lucked out, and were able to pull over in an extra wide area meant for semi trucks. Somehow they were able to get repairs made at that location, but it took several hours to arrange everything. The advantage of having a breakdown with a trailer is that they had a place to relax, enjoy a snack, use the toilet, etc.-- because they had everything they needed in the trailer.
Their trailers weren't huge, but big enough to need two axles.
I dont understand why Airstream chose the unsafe door design other than it makes entry more convenient when backed into a campsite. Known as suicide doors ,this type of door has been eliminated from most all automobiles. The the majority of travel trailer door open to the rear.
@@lapalmeal The trailer was not designed for passengers, so for safety reasons it doesn't matter which way the door opened.
@@lapalmeal If the company capitulated & reversed the opening direction of the door, that would provide tacit encouragement for owners to engage in the foolish activity of travelling in the trailer. My first thought was that this family were doing this because they didn't have enough seats in their vehicle, so to hear that they chose to do this despite having enough seats in their vehicle is remarkable to me.
Whether the incident involves cars, trucks, trailers, aircraft, or firearms, I always appreciate the objective attention to technical details.
An old friend of mine in high school…her dad was a brilliant doctor but had no common sense. Interestingly enough, the daughters of his that also became doctors, didn’t either. I went on a weekend trip with them once, and they brought their bikes. The dad rope tied them to the car….running the rope all under the car, side-to-side, never once realizing he was roping his door closed. When it came time to get in the driver’s door, obviously he couldn’t because it was roped shut, all the while, we were all sitting in the car waiting for him to do this job, then get in and start the journey. I was the only one that spoke up and asked his wife how he was going to get in. She was clueless. She had to roll down his window so he could climb through. And when we got to our destination, he climbed through the sunroof and slid down the windshield. I remember thinking this exact thing….that the family was so smart, intellectually, but lacked tremendously in common sense.
I couldn't help but LOL at all those visuals. Man.
Oh, that's funny!
That’s not smart, it’s overeducated past their true ability.
If Clark Griswold was a doctor...
Perfect example. Thanks for sharing.
One of my college professors was a lawyer, and when we studied product liability he touched on this very phenomenon. He noted that people who go from high school to college to graduate school learn about their specific fields in great depth, and that they're often "stunted" in other areas. One of my wife's relations married a Ph.D. with an impressive C.V. They guy had no clue about things like currency conversion for travel or financing a car. He's an real-deal genius ... in one _highly specialized_ area of applied science. Both of his parents are also Ph.D.s, and they took care of all his education financing and bills until his late 20s. Outside of academe he's been know to to make huge errors in judgment.
Your statement wets the bed when you realize the absent judgment of people without degrees also. Pay-day loans aren't likely targeting the doctor/ lawyer class for a reason. Common sense is often a misnomer.
A tragic accident. Nothing more, nothing less. My heart goes out to the family. I express my deepest condolences.
Exactly! People love to judge but most wish they could do the same. People love to look down on people.
@@nakedkitten Do you see the irony in your statement? YOU are looking down on people and judging them. It's human nature. Deal with it.
Sounds like your minimizing the victim's role in the sad event.
@@scanspeak00 Come on now you are not a perfect person and most likely have done many more dangerous things than riding in the back of a trailer...you have just been luckier than she was. It's so easy to punch down on a dead person and her family but not as easy to be honest about yourself. Sitting with your feet up now in the recliner because you have gotten to old and boring to try anything daring(even though riding in the back of a trailer isn't as risky as you make it out to be) makes you a grumpy little human. Get off my grass!
Also, sometimes when we get too excited about things, such as when on vacation, we forget to use our common sense.
really?
The grandfather who held his toddler granddaughter out the cruise ship window in San Juan.
@@craigfinnegan8534I don't think he held her out the window, but I get your point.
@@melistasy He had to have held her out the window - that's the only way she would have dropped all the way down to the dock instead of onto the floor inside the observation deck. And that's why he pled guilty.
@craigfinnegan8534 interesting, I didn't hear that before. I thought he lifted her up to lean against the glass, and it was opened and she fell out.
Former limo driver here. Who's to blame if I know my passengers stood up out of the sunroof and got injured? Me! I got a ticket for them doing that. 😡. I fought it and the case was dismissed. I told those clowns not to stand up like is done in the movies. 😐. They got citations too....😏
If I was a limo driver I'd be tempted to put a padlock on the sun roof if it wasn't a viable emergency escape option in a worst case scenario
But you are the one who opened the sun roof! Close it, problem solved!
I’m surprised people are still in the limo business, there seems to be so much liability associated with passengers idiotic behavior now a days ….
Always have a form to sign. No case.
@@28105wsking No. They can open and close it. Most cars the driver can control everything including the power to the back. You have to remember. It's a service. Driving a 30 foot limo is a skill, dealing with drunk people is the challenge.
The driver also holds some responsibility. He never should have allowed it.
Where I live, the driver would be held criminally responsible.
That's what I told my mother-in-law when she wanted to ride in my car without a seat belt. I wouldn't put the car in gear till I heard the click. At one time she asked to hold my young son in the car's front seat on a short ride home and I, respectfully, said hell no.
Absolutely right!
Yes, lets invent criminal charges and make families criminal acts. Good grief, you people are sad. How do you grow up not wanting to undo these nanny laws that are used to harm normal people? No one knows why this woman opened the double locked camper door mid drive, but that is not the driver's fault in any way. We going to lock up a bus driver if someone pulls the emergency release and jumps off a bus?
People should be doing things that undoes the silly laws from the past like lowering the drinking age back to 18 and stop trying to use laws in ridiculous ways like jailing a husband because his wife did something stupid on her own. How does anyone grow up wanting more nanny laws? I cringe every time you conservative nanny staters pass a new nanny law. You are creating a police state against normal people while ignoring real problems like low wages and unaffordable housing.
@@_PatrickO No one is making families criminal. When there is a death due to negligent actions, justice requires an accounting.This family is likely to sue the manufacturer for their own actions.
Terribly unfortunate. My wife and I differ widely in formal education, yet she frequently points things out to me that I did not come even close to realizing. Wonders of the brain.
Here in Australia there is no way that you are allowed to be in a moving caravan , and nobody does it as far as I know . Its so ingrained in us as a 'no no'
Same here in the UK.
We all used to ride in the back of a ute, but a caravan or trailer is just asking for it.
I had no idea re this law but I've never had a trailer or a need to consider this (as an oz).
It’s illegal in most if not all states in the US also. It shouldn’t have to be a law, but here we are. 🤷♀️
@@alexandramail930 It's common bloody sense, you shouldn't need a law.
Next time you see a car towing a caravan or a trailer, watch how it bounces around, and swerves.
Even if it was legal, would you enjoy it?
I've known not to ride in a trailer since the age of 4 or so, after watching that Disney cartoon where Goofy takes a rough ride in a camper trailer, which becomes unhitched and out-of-control.
The trailer company should make every potential buyer watch the this Disney video. My daughter in law had to watch a “shaken baby” video before her newborn baby and she were released from hospital.
I would just like to say nowadays, we have to go to such great lengths to prevent people from making obviously stupid moronic choices
I didn't know that. Never been in a trailer before though.
Oh by golly.. you have jogged my memory.. I remember seeing that Goofy movie . Laughed my head off.. 😂
Disney should go back to making those kinds of movies. Their stocks might improve if they did
This video reminded me of that exact cartoon 😅, I still own it as a cartouche of hand movie player , it’s great.
I am so sorry for the family's loss. My heart breaks for them.
Interesting analysis, Dr Grande! I just love how you offer such an interesting variety of cases/topics that you cover here on your channel! ❤️
To those wondering why its legal in some states: When transporting horses it is common for an animal handler to ride with the horses in the horse trailer. This is done so that they can keep the animals calm and can have the vehicle stopped if there are any problems.
Many horse trailers are specially equipped for this.
Why is it illegal in the first place? I don’t understand US law
@@manal-hh3xh It's illegal because there are no seatbelts or safety considerations should the trailer become unlatched or impact something, it's just unsafe so it's not allowed. Driving on public roads here like most places is a privilege not a right so there are tons of things that are considered dangerous to the occupants of a vehicle or the people in the other vehicles (if you hurt yourself in your vehicle its not uncontrolled and dangerous so they're more or less the same thing) and are illegal, In most states you can't ride in the back of a pickup either.
@@manal-hh3xhmost road laws are in place to keep other drivers safe. It’s perfectly legal to ride in the back of a trailer, on your own private property. But on a public road, falling out a trailer causes a danger to other drivers who may swerve out of the way to avoid you
@@manal-hh3xh It's illegal because the state is exercising common sense in case the driver and/or passenger are not. The state is protecting you from yourself.
I never considered riding in the horse trailer to keep my horse calm. Only did it once when the trailer was on a ferry in rough weather.
There are horse trucks that do have a safe space for the handlers.
So incredibly sad. Terrible tragedy and loss. Regardless of IQ, many of us have made bad decisions. This story reinforces the importance of checking and considering every safety precaution.
what are you suggesting?
before doing something really stupid to do a check list?
@@ursodermatt8809 what I suggested is plain and clear! Before doing something that could be dangerous, think about potential dangers. You aren't some super being that never did something stupid!! Everyone has. When people are excited they don't always think.
@@ceilconstante640
the problem with your statement is:
if you do not recognize the danger, you will not do a safety assessment. plain and simple. whether you are excited or not.
we are opening doors all the time. without doing any thinking.
@@ursodermatt8809You open doors on the highway while your car is in motion?
@@christinab9808
yes, i am opening the door all the time, step outside and then catch the car again to step inside. all without doing risk assessment first!
Your channel has been added to my top 5 channels,great work dr. Thank you for your time
Thank you Dr. Grande for detailing this case! I've been wanting to know more about it because it was so tragic and it happened to someone so accomplished. I see these events as cautionary tales we can all learn from. Things can happen in an instant, and we don't always get second chances.
In my professions, I dealt with many specialized highly educated people. Just because a person is very smart in their profession it does not mean they are smart in other areas. But many of these people over estimate their abilities in areas they really know nothing about.
This is true
So, so absolutely true. I've seen this trait in many individuals. Very, very common!!
Absolutely true. I have a couple people in my family who are specialized, highly educated people (one's an engineer, the other's a physician). They do or say stuff so dumb, that it's a mystery to me how someone who's so smart can be so stupid at the same time. All I can say is, the Dunning-Kruger Effect applies to smart people as well.
I've seen this trait in highly intelligent people as well. I work in an engineering consulting firm, and can always spot the engineers with no common sense. They have no business sense, get distracted with minor issues, and can't meet a deadline to save their life. Needless to say they don't last long in consulting.
A few years ago in California three doctors were killed as they were jogging on railtoad tracks while wearing headphones.
As a child, I remembered Lucy and Ricky in the movie, The Long, Long Trailor.
Amen & Amen! I do NOT remember many movies from my Childhood, but Baby, that was THE MOVIE!!!!
Yup! Remember that one well when I was a kid. Thanks for that reminder! You could feel trouble coming around every bend in the road or driveway. Lawn fences and garden bushes: STAY AWAY! 😀
Me too…
Yep...and they didn't die...and neither have millions of people who have ridden in trailers.
@@nakedkitten I do despise that “Suicide Door” on Airstream. Seems counterintuitive from an engineering perspective. It is not the cause of the fatality: it was trying to open and slam it! But it just defies common sense to open backwards.
My grandfather used to take me with him went he transported camp girls to events in his flatbed truck with slat sides, a vinyl covering, and benches nailed to the floor, mid-1960's. Even as a young kid I worried about their safety. Now they travel in nice safer busses, thank goodness!
We travel with an RV for over two years now. NOT once did we ever ride in it while being pulled. Too dangerous!
You should ask yourself...."what if it comes unhitched?" I always try to anticipate things that MIGHT happen. Why I've managed to survive to be 70, I guess. You should approach life like a chess game and always try to think 2 or 3 steps ahead. On another note, I worked at a Fortune 500 company where there were several engineers, people with Master's Degrees, PhDs. They almost all lacked common sense. My boss had a Master's in Accounting and Business but didn't do his own taxes. Made no sense to me.
@@karenpoteet751 Anything is possible to happen in life. It’s using wisdom that’s important to help prevent some of those bad outcomes. Doing everything you can do to be safe..including extra measures to make sure your RV is correctly attached to your truck lol.
@@suzerick75116 Critical thinking skills should be taught in school. I always think....what might happen...does this make sense? Which is how I've survived to be 71. People DO NOT have common sense.
Reminds me of the CA couple who went hiking with their baby and dog in triple digit temps.
Or the scientist who gave his son a Mike's Hard Lemonade at their first baseball outing together (his son was probably 5-7 years old). The man had a PhD and was not ever into drinking/drinking cultures and had no idea it was an alcoholic beverage. His son was fine - he was taken to a hospital because he felt funny (obviously), but he wasn't hurt - no long term damage or anything near that. However, CPS did not really believe him, at least at first. Not sure how long his son may have been removed from the family, but I believe he was for a period of time. Couldn't help feeling bad for the man.
@@pamelastevens1609damn. I can totally see that happening on accident. Meanwhile my crackhead sister who’s been arrested numerous times, including for child endangerment, still has all of her kids. 😒
@@pamelastevens1609That's messed up they took the kid away for a simple mistake.
And they went camping with very little water...😢
I remember that story.
100+ degrees and like 3 miles straight down and then back up
My first ex was the smartest person I've ever known, but had absolutely no common sense at all. Her friends were the same balance of book smart and common sense. I have come to the conclusion that the more academically smart you are, the less common sense you have in day to day living.
Hello Dr Grande. Very interesting video, My heart goes out to the family. ❤
i used to babysit for a gal who was from a rich family. In the 50's and 60s, they had a limousine and chauffer. The limousine had suicide doors, which means the front passenger door opens in the regular way and the back passenger door is hinged to open in the opposite way. She told me they were driving down the highway (so probably at 60MPH) and she tried this exact scenario described. She was thrown from the car, catapulted through the ditch, and was pretty banged up with only a broken arm. She was about 14 yrs old at the time, so was probably in better shape to sustain such an accident. However she did admit she was extremely lucky to survive.
My family had a motorhome, and the door opened correctly to prevent such an accident. It appears that Airstream could mount the door on the opposite side as well.
No amount of laws will prevent illegal and careless behaviors. Humans like excitement and will often ignore sense in order to meet their desires.
natural selection i suppose
Airstream decided that advising customers against riding in a moving trailer allowed them to mount the door any way they chose.
So by this logic everything must be designed with stupid in mind..
@@helenmcdonnell2585ever stick your fingers in a running lawnmower! Manufacturers have to by law make their mowers safe from that! Stupid is as stupid does!
Stupid people will always find a way
My first thought after hearing you describe this was--you NEVER ride in a trailer being pulled. This is another example of why.
This is an example? So your example of why you never ride in a trailer being pulled is that if you fall out of the moving vehicle you can be killed? Isn't this true of ANY vehicle? Why is this only an example of why not to ride in a trailer being pulled?
Thank you, Dr. Grande! Almost every time i take in one of your videos, I learn a new term. Clever-sillies!
The daughter asked why the engineers would be so stupid to design the doors that way? The seeds do not fall far from the tree. I don't care if she is a doctor.
Helena sounds very entitled and someone who does not practise self-accountability
My dad, a highly quailed specialist, almost shot his foot off with a rifle he kept for euthanising rabbits with myxamitosis. I am scared of guns but I don’t blame the gun for his potential amputation.
@@KittyQueenMeowStop. The girl just lost her Mum. You don't need to put your paddle in. I hope that helps.
If she really believed that, she would be running down to the court house with her attorney to file wrongful death suit. She knows, they weren’t supposed to be riding in there.
@@SmachfestOh look at the comment police. Go fly a kite.
What a damn shame. They seem like a lovely family. RIP.
Thank you Dr Grande for analyzing this case. It’s very sad that this happened to this family.
Yes, and RIP - hoping the entire family and friends recover from their tragic loss.
What was there to analyze?
“clever sillies”. great theory. my brilliant brother’s physics degree did not prevent him from falling down a mountain crevice in northern Italy when he was only 24 (44 years ago ). Totally preventable in his circumstances. no common sense.
it is hard for the rest of the family to accept when a gifted and good person is gone forever and it could have been preventable. my heart reaches out to this family in their grief.
Not one person on this planet is immune to a moment of lack of common sense. We're all guilty of it, it is part of life and it is arrogant to think 'i am better than that'. I think its safe to say that most people with some years behind them have all had at least one moment in their lives where they've looked back and cringed at the dangerous situation they placed themselves in through lack of common sense. She was just unlucky with the risk she took in that moment.
No kidding! We grew up in the '60's and '70's. Drugs, alcohol, hitchhiking, protesting, muscle cars, no bra... most of us realize we are lucky to be alive.
@@tinareaume7484 no bra ! I still attune to that! Exactly it's just called living on the edge but we didn't have the critical eye and oppressiveness of the internet which honestly I think is far more dangerous!
I think of the thousands of dollars and thousands of hours that Monika spent getting her medical degree, and thousands of hours examining children to determine their individual treatment without serious error, and then making a careless mistake that cost her her life and left her family with the traumatic loss of their wife and mother, to say nothing of all those families she helped with an allergic child
When your time on earth is up; it is up, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Julius Caesar was told: beware the Ides of March, do not go to the capital because death awaits. He went anyway and was killed; his time was up; nothing he or anyone could do to stop the march of death.
To watch an eclipse. A useless event.
im unsure if the intent was to make her seem very smart or very dumb. the truth is, most people are a lot of both, depending on the time and day. what i am tired of though is the continual blame game everyone plays when something bad happens, when i was younger we quite simply called them "accidents" and we didn't try to put everyone in a bubble to save themselves from the world. if you slipped on a sidewalk on a rainy day, you quite simply learned to walk better in slippery conditions and to examine the way a door opened before opening it while travelling 70mph.
We all make mistakes. Depending on where people grow up and their own experiences and innate personality, some people are more comfortable with risk taking than others.
It sounds like she’s lived a meaningful life and helped many.
More than most of us will achieve, honestky.
I'm glad they didnt hurt anyone else and am sad for her family and friends.
@LygerTheCLaw yes, time and unforeseen occurrences befall us all. It's not "karma" or, my personal favorite "everything happens for a reason".
How sad😢. May Monica rest in peace❤.
I definitely agree with what you say about very smart/brilliant people not having any common sense. It amazes me.
I'm very sad for this family. I'm praying for comfort for them.
That's way in the olden times we called them suicide doors!
Doesn't make them any less dangerous.
@@lesflynn4455suicide is generally dangerous
@@lesflynn4455 doesn't make her any less ignorant
@@mastermnd22 I'm not going to argue, iwould have thought she knew better. Alas .... It would have been a horrible way to go.
If you tow, you know a trailer can easily get out of balance and start fishtailing. The only thing you can do then is hit the gas and hope hard. That thing will turn both vehicles over unless you can divert the energy.
Thats not what happened here.
if you have a swivelling tow hitch the towing vehicle will not turn over.
@@Lobonova perhaps he is simply commenting on how dangerous they can be while being towed
@@Lobonova The point is, it very well could've happened, which is why they shouldn't have been riding in it.
@@alwaysrecycles365 yeah I agree. I think he was just telling another reason why you shouldn’t ride in it.
My heart goes out to the family, I can imagine how they are feeling . Which reminds me of the saying “what you don’t know could really hurt you. “ So, so sad.
Thanks Dr Todd I think you hit the nail on the head.
This is a heartbreaking story!! Her poor daughter saw this happen. I can’t IMAGINE how traumatic this must have been 😢
I was married to a physician for over 20 years. Brilliant but no common sense. He was in the yard one day doing 'something'. I walked over to him and noted an extension cord connected to the skillsaw. He had a roll of string...one end tied to some and his hand on the other end. I thought "he's not gonna use the skill saw to cut the string but before I even finished that thought, he used the skill saw to cut the string...it was his lucky day and did not cut off his hand or fingers but did have a minor laceration which he promptly sutured up. Still, nearly 30 years later I cannot unsee that moment. Now, I learn there is name for this....Clever Sillies? Wow!
I have heard it said the Doctors don’t have to be smart, they only have to have a good memory!
A fresh baked MD in his first year of residency built the crookedest gazebo in their yard…..
@ArtU4All That's probably more a skill issue, not intelligence, but still amusing!
That reminds me of something an acquaintance told me about his sister.
She was highly educated, very intelligent, but one day when there was a power outage, she was concerned that they wouldn't be able to flush the toilet.
I dropped out of high school, but I know a power outage doesn't affect the toilet.
@@jaytee2642 Unless it's one of these Kohler units that has a night light and sensors and other silly "technology." Or if you have well water, and need an electric pump to get the water to the water tank, so you'll have water to flush the toilet.
I agree with your assessment. It's the most logical explanation. I also have a fascination with campers and RVs, im planning to buy one as soon as I find a job. Im glad i saw this video, so my kids and myself will be safe on the road.
This was utterly devastating, and while laws were unquestionably breached, the sheer improbability of such an event unfolding is staggering.
I don't know about your experience on the roads in the US, but in my experience I've seen all kinds of scary trailer antics. I would think anyone with any time on US highways would think this is a bad idea, despite it being illegal in most states.
Unfortunately, People seem to want to Blame the manufacturers and never take any accountability.
That's where the money is.
Agreed. It sounded like the daughter was trying to blame the manufacturer. Next thing we know they are suing them trying to profit from this tragic accident…
Dude shes dealing with her mothers death and replaying a million different ways things could have been different so that it didnt happen down to every detail of the day or things that happened years ago so chill the f out
Well, there's a reason why they call doors that open like that on automobiles "suicide doors" and they pretty much stopped making cars with doors that open backwards in the 1960s before they even had seatbelts or stopped making dashboards out of solid steel. Because they knew how dangerous it is to have doors that open into the wind on moving vehicles can be. They literally pull human beings out of moving cars. This used to be a known danger that engineers learned to avoid.
@@PhilLesh69 And yet it's so dangerous that even cars in 2021 were being released with suicide doors. Can't be that dangerous if manufacturers are still allowed to make and sell cars with them.
Smart and stupid come in many flavors and we’re all different compositions.
Not gonna lie, I could see myself getting killed in a momentary lapse of judgement like this.
At least her death was quick. But how awful for her daughter to watch her mother vanish in a blink and suddenly have a fun vacation turned into one of the worst days of your life. I have immense empathy for this woman and her family.
The trick is to listen to that quiet voice in you just seconds before you try something stupid - that voice simply says: "Don't do it."
the worst thing is the daughter is still in denial
@@ursodermatt8809 I always see a connection between the denial of the surviving kin and the irresponsibility of the family member who screwed up - because denial is a form of irresponsibility in itself. So it runs in the family.
@@ursodermatt8809 it hasn’t even been a week, I’d say denial is normal.
@@craigfinnegan8534 taking my adhd medication helps 🤣
Whoa 😢 My Condolences...
God Bless 🙏
Excellent presentation!
That's why they call them "suicide doors". Very sad story.
Well you’re not supposed to ride in the trailer when you’re towing.
I must confess I never properly understood why those doors had that name. Thank You, it makes sense now. Deepest Sympathy to the Family
@@movienut710same! So sad now that I have a story and mental visual to explain. 😢
Old Lincolns and Rolls Royce Phantoms. Now they call them something else because "suicide" doors is politically incorrect.
Hemmings motor wrote an article a long time ago and called them suicide doors because it was easy to throw someone out the car. Mobster days.
I read about this accident last night, and I couldn't help but wonder why would grown-up ever consider riding in a travel trailer while it's being towed, since there's so much that could go wrong if you just consider thinking about it for five seconds. I couldn't believe a physician would do something so dangerous.
Not to mention the fact that the husband was also a doctor. Why would he allow his wife and daughter to do this; they were almost at their destination. I guess when your time is up; it is up and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
Well, her husband should have said no to his wife and daughter. I'm sure he thought it may not be a good idea, but he saw they were excited and just hoped for the best.
The whole set looks very unstable during drive. Seems to me there is some kind of arrogance here at play. And the same arrogance from the family to claim that this was no ones fault, when actually, anyone of them could have and should have questioned the idea. On both parents must have been aware of the safety guideline. They took a risk and paid for it dearly.
Wow! Well said my friend
You are a smart man and I appreciate you teaching critical thinking skills
Well said Dr. Grande. Condolences to Monika's family and friends.
Tragic! My heart goes out to her family!
Thank you, Dr. Grande.
Its a very good thing to be well-read, well-educated, and well-traveled. But nothing can compare with street-smarts and people-smarts. That's why we MUST limit screeen time for our kids and keep them actively learning lifeskills of all types with other kids.
Hi Dr. Grande, excellent analysis.
Not only are there no seatbelts in trailers, there are no seatbelts in living quarters of RVs.
I refer to people like Monica as smartstupid.
As always I learn something new from your videos.
Reminds me of the McCanns: 2 physicians who should have known better.
I’m a trainer of high risk industrial machinery and one thing we are told when we first start training is that there is no such thing as common sense anymore, it’s now known as acquired sense. Meaning that the amount of people who lack basic understanding of how things work is the common ability of people these days and they are in danger of injury.
A lack of role models and father figures is leaving many young people in a bad situation.
That is quite profound.
Indeed, what used be common, especially for people in the countryside with the agricultural machinery, domestic and wild animals - what’s left of that in the city?…. The cars are pretending to selfdrivw
@@ArtU4All Oh, so that explains the "tourons" who try to pet bison in Yellowstone! Even though there are signs everywhere telling you to stay far away from them.
My brother-in-law, who owns a motorhome, classic cars, and a bunch of other nifty stuff, once commented that not as many people buy RVs these days, because people lack the skills to maintain them. I've also heard that the manufacturers of said RVs are mostly doing a shoddy job these days, and a purchaser of a new RV may spend months or years trying to get their new toy working right.
IDK, moving your body at highway speeds should still trigger an elevated sense of danger, especially if you consider all the noise and bumpiness. IMO this was good old thrill seeking plus bad luck
Even with common sense, there are infinitely many unforeseen things that can happen.
It says a lot about a company's concern for safety if they choose the "all bets are off if you don't follow the manual" approach.
"It's almost like a total eclipse... Of common sense"
OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH 🗣️🔥💯💯💯
This is heartbreaking.
I can understand her not imagining the worst, more being absorbed by the getaway with her family in that lovely little camper. Hopefully this will be a lesson learned by many so that they will never make this mistake or to warn someone else who purchases a camper that they will not get caught in this type of disaster. I'm sincerely saddened for the family for their loss. Their mother seems like a free spirit, not an idiot. This could have easily been prevented, that's the sadness. I too take chances once in awhile. So far, I've been lucky.
This was a tragedy. It was clearly her fault, but I hope the family sues airstream. If the door opened the other way it would have been pushed shut by the air instead of being pulled open. This is actually why suicide doors are no longer made. All fatalities are caused by someone making a mistake, but most often it is more than one made by several people. She made the mistake of riding in the trailer; but if the door opened the other way she'd be alive today.
Well said.
@@gregbuckley7596 truth
@@gregbuckley7596 If she had ridden in the truck like she was supposed to, she'd be alive today.
@@gregbuckley7596 Even without anybody in the trailer if you forget to shut the door it could rip your door off. Unless they have some very specific reason to do it that way I don't get it.
What an extremely sad story. Poor family.
Their daughter is unhurt, and I'm sure they had good insurance.
It does seem odd for the door to open to the wind while being towed. If the latch fails, the door would be blown open quickly instead of just flapping in the wind.
It's such a sad event. Accidents like this are avoidable, but people might not know it's something to avoid in the first place.
Dr. Grande has a good point: It seems that Monika may have been “seeking novelty” just by wanting to sleep in the trailer even while at home.
So what. Seeking novelty is part of leading a life.
Not everyone has the same mental profile. Neither is better or worse. Stop trying so hard to do a psychoanalysis to make yourself feel superior
my parents have a similar trailer I like to sleep in when I visit, rather than stay in the house, do i have to worry ab seeking novelty now? lol....
@@Readytoflyhome he's just doing his job which is the point of this channel.❤
@@Readytoflyhome I didn't think op ascribed any positivity or negativity to novelty seeking, did they?
Once again, Dr. Grande saves immeasurable lives with a video in a time that matters: just before summer/ high level of travel trailer use…
Calm down…
I'm very sorry that this happened.
Pray peace for this family.
Thank you, Dr. Grande.
This is really sad no matter who’s at fault. It’s best to follow the laws where you are. They’re usually for good reason. As we can plainly see.
“Clever Sillies” . Yup, I know a couple.
I said "your not suppose to be back there!" the second I saw the article, 3-days later Airstream said the same thing.
My dang parents drove thousands of miles with us kids being in the travel trailer....dang
@@mightymouse1005 It is illegal in most states. I've been camping for over 50 years and it's also common knowledge that is could be deadly.
Did they also use the incorrect "your"?
@linsioux217 wow, I didn't know that, but I've also never been in one before.
Why did you [incorrectly] hyphenate "3-days"?
When I was a kid in Wyoming I learned all about what wind can do to a car door regardless of the orientation of the hinges.
I've only driven in Wyoming once and learned this lesson when my truck door hit the gas pump when the wind caught it. Still have the truck, still have the dent.
I've heard so many times about the wind in Wyoming being constant and excessive. To the point where it can start to affect your mental health if you live there.
Not all of us live in Wyoming, LOL. My son went to college in Rapid City, South Dakota, which has some of that same kind of weather, so he explained to us about the wind.
That's why the call backwards opening doors "suicide doors". I didn't know anything was made that way anymore.
crazy how i found out about her death on the nextdoor app and now you're making a video about it. small world 😭
My grandfather would never let us ride in the trailer, no matter how much we would beg. He would explain to us all of the dangers and somehow this wasn't even one of them that was mentioned. That poor woman and her family.
Sounds like you had a wonderful grandfather. ❤️
Just a normal grandfather…by people stating that someone is great for doing what ALL parents and adults should do is what lowers the bar for standards and whats excepted and acceptable behaviours! I say no Great Special grandpa just a stupid person who knew better, and didnt care thinking she would be safe! She knows its unsafe! I would be questioning her diagnoses and treatment plan if she was my childs physician! She doesnt follow rules and makes bad choices and knows better shes used to getting away with doing what she wants as many often think because she is a doctor (for allergies,lol) that shes special or great and superior to others! Hence why they do it! Its just an accident unfortunately…i dont even blame her for what she done, everyone does things and makes allowances for themselves etc at some point most of us are lucky enough to get away with it! An accident is that!
@@tw8464 He was
They are literally death traps in an accident.