I bought the 50# variant of this bow last year to use for the upcoming deer season. I saw this review and several others that gave almost nothing short of high praise so I felt confident jumping on one when I found it on sale at like $78. I had very little archery experience prior to this purchase aside from making a few PVC bows nearly a decade ago so I wasn't sure if I'd be ready to take it out hunting when deer season approached. I watched what must have been hundreds of videos trying to figure out how to tune arrows to the bow that were suitable for hunting, how to aim the bow consistently, etc. I settled on string walking, in about a 4 week period I went from losing arrows every day to getting 6 inside of 5-6" at 20-25 yards consistently using the exact setup I planned to hunt with. I took 4 deer in the first week out, all at about 20 yards and it really solidified in my mind what an excellent purchase I had made. I'm coming up on a solid year since my purchase now and not long after deer season ended I got another for my wife, a 35# recurve and I constantly recommend this bow to everyone every chance I get. My only regret is that I didn't get one sooner seeing as I'd been eyeing one since I saw the NuSensei review like 7 years ago lol.
Thank you for your bow reviews including the Black Hunter 'longbow' version. I own 4 of these bows and enjoy them very much for their smoothness, accuracy, quietness, and pleasure in simply shooting 'Trad' archery. I am 74 years old shortly and have owned many, many, traditional bows including Bear, Herters, expensive hand-crafted bows. I liked each of them for what they were and enjoyed a Stotler handcrafted bow ($700+) the most. However, my second choice for pleasure is the inexpensive Black Hunter long-bow (Twig Archery) as unbelievable as it may sound. Archery is a great hobby and in many ways a health builder i.e. physical strength, hand-eye coordination, mental relaxation and clarity, and simply just 'Fun'. bill bartholomew, Pennsylvania
Lets give this guy some props for the filming and editing, also the music, its much more than just the content (which is absolutely great and entertaining)!!
You're leaving out the lighting and audio component. Arguably the most important thing to making something watchable, and he nailed it. So many channels mess this part up, but he's done a great job. You can tell he genuinely takes pride in his work
This is my bow, I have many other bows, but this is what I always return to. Been shooting it for over 3 years, many thousands of arrows through it, and it's been indestructable, fun, and accurate.
I forward this young man's programs to my son-in-law and daughter who have two daughters, both competitive archers. I made my first bow at age 10 from hickory that I laid up for a year and shaved it with broken glass. This fellow has a wonderful teaching presence.
Gotta love a guy that shows no prejudice when he reviews an item. So many of the higher profile YT archery guys show contempt for the Chinese bows , whinging about the smallest thing and only review them as the budget bows are so popular and they get a lot of views. Kramer, the bomb!
I think one of many reasons those reviewers do it is because some of them might have connections to local archery shops or even 3Rivers or Lancaster. If they don't have a negative mindset towards forgien bow suppliers, then those suppliers would be legitimate competition for say 3Rivers, whom doesn't want competition, bc competition would mean they would have to lower their prices. 3Rivers wants us to view the Black Hunter as a cheap budget bow so we can spend 300$ on their Old Mesa instead. 200$ more makes some ppl feel like that means its better....has to be. All of my bows with the exception of 2(Korean supplier and Ukrainian supplier) are from China. Specifically one of the most respected suppliers in the Horsebow market. Zero complaints about them and their bows.
The only true issue is your financing a Communist Chinese party that brought you Covid. Spy balloons flown over our country, deadly drugs brought through our borders and now several thousand illegal military aged fighting personnel into our country.
I’ve had a black Hunter longbow for 6 months now, value for money, they can’t be beaten. I also got some recurve limbs for it, also great but I like the longbow limbs best.👌
Thanks Kramer I bought this bow last week and the only thing I don't like about the bow is the string I will be ordering 1 of your Flemish twist strings this weekend thanks for doing these videos
Thanks for taking the time to do these reviews. I'm looking for a bow for my son for Christmas. We have always hunted deer with crossbows but two years ago I purchased a samick sage ( which I love) and took a deer with it this year. No sights, no plunger, just some vibration dampeners and shooting off the shelf. Although, I'm very comfortable with it, I have nothing to compare it to. My son and I have agreed on getting him a different recurve just for the possible differences. We are leaning towards the mandarin duck series...this video helps.
Two months ago I started dragging my colleagues to the 3D-Bow Parks in our area on a regular basis. Walking and shooting the park is a really nice social and outdoorsy (but not too physically challenging) thing that can still be done in Covid times. Think golf with arrows. People are really starting to crave these occasions now. In early October I had to persuade people to come along. Now there are so many requests that I nearly can't handle them anymore. All these people need equipment, so your recommendations for entry level bows in the lower price range are very valuable at the moment. Thank you!
I shoot the black hunter longbow @ #35 with a 28" draw and I love it smooth , quiet and quick . Easy to shoot and very easy on the pocket 5*s all the way . Thanks for the great reviews.
KRAMER IM SO HYPED AND PROUD OF YOU FOR YOUR CHANNEL GROWTH MAN. Edit: if you see this Kramer I have a question, specifically do you think this bow could be used as a hunting bow? I know some manufacturers make bows just for target shooting so.
You'll find many people online (both on TH-cam and various archery forums) who are hunting quite successfully with this bow. Make sure you know your local laws particularly in regards to draw weight! Many jurisdictions require 40lbs or more to hunt but that's not universal.
Bought this exact bow 2 years ago on ebay and the top limb broke after 3 months or so. I contacted the seller about it, but he didn't respond. Because I liked the bow so much, I bought replacement limbs from another seller and it still shoots amazing. Bumped about the broken limb and no replacement limb or even response from the first seller, but I'm happy with it now.
Kramer Ammons: I am loving this series. I have the BlackHunter Long bow and recurve and love it. However, after comparing the 10 bows under $100, I wonder if you wouldn't mind taking the top 5 or top 3 and comparing them to the next level bows? As a new archer/bowhunter, I am curious what I am getting for buying a more expensive bow, or alternatively, what am I losing for sticking with the BlackHunter versus say moving up to a bear archery or some other name brand, more expensive bow. Thanks for your consideration!
I have the recurve-version. After 20 shot the top limb delaminated. I got a replacement (5 weeks) and after another 200 shots the bottom limb broke through the hardwood core. I got half of the price as a cashback, repaired the limbs carefull with epoxy and shooting the bow without any problems afterwards. Maybe I had just bad luck. The batch seemed to have had problems with the glue (maybe wrong temperature during drying or whatever). But i would still recommend to buy the bow at a company with a little bit of a higher quality control (Drake, Mandarin Duck or something like this) just to avoid such problems. Apart from that: A very smooth and good bow. Keep up your great work and all the best from Germany.
Hi Kramer. Could you take your top... 3 of these bows, and do some "tweaks" to them? better strings, felts, silencers, etc. See what sort of improvements you can get from them? Show us what you can do with a decent bow... with some customizations.
year ago i ordered a black hunter recurve, but instead of this they send me this bow and i love it, my favorite bow, i can confirm all of this in the video.
I bought this bow as my first because of this review and I love it. I throw about 150 arrows a day in this bow is becoming deadly medicine in my hands I will be taking it into the woods a couple weeks from now in coming out with a whitetail.
@@bobbarker5884 I have a 40lb at 29 inch draw and I use either 600 spine 30 inch arrows with 125 on the nose or for hunting I use 500 spine 29 1/4 inch arrow with a 100 grain insert with 200grain points for a total of 300 grains in the tip.
My Super Shrew, Black Widow and Tim Meigs bows are gathering dust as these Black Hunter longbows have become my absolute go to on a daily basis !! They perform just as well and in most cases better than their more expensive cousins at a fraction of the price !!
I'm in the UK and have been trying to track this bow down but can't find it available anywhere. It'll be my first bow and I'm sold on your great review - if I can find it!
Same here i couldnt find it so the EK archery adder rx crossbow was my first bow (with 5 shot magazin) now thats a seriously good piece of kit. Definitely recommend the crossbow btw, ihunter website is by far the cheapest I found at £250 vs the £300 plus everywhere else. Definitely want to try this long/recurve bow though, at the minute the crossbow is still super fun.
I bought this bow a few weeks ago - I blame you Kramer >.> LOL, I love this bow. Thanks for the reviews. At first my groups were a bit fat, but I moved to 1 inch fixed crawl and now it shoots darts from 10 to 30 yards with a variety of arrows. I enjoy this bow every time I take it to the range.
My Mandarin Duck Black Hunter recurve - is great - one limb exploded replaced with a free string no questions asked - have several sets of limbs - and still love the bow
I just got my "longbow" today thanks a lot to this video. Funnily enough however, the base of the limbs look like the longbow limbs, but they're very much the recurve ones. Not the worst thing because on Amazon the recurves are still more expensive & when I do buy some longbow limbs for this they'll fit perfectly. Just odd the way a lot of these bows are handled by the different companies
I used custom recurves and long bows and I was satisfied, A friend gave me a pre-Florida Bear Hunter recurve in pristene condition it shot as good as some and better than others? "You can't judge a book by its cover"! I use to make primitive bows and never felt I needed a handicap. I enjoy your videos, you know more than I do and I have been at the archery game a long time.
I have had one of each(longbow and recurve)for a little over a year. I like the long bow a little better.. Both are excellent and I can’t get over how stable they are for having such a short riser. Tremendous value!
This has nothing to do directly with this video but I just wanted to say after one of your videos showed up in my feed and I watched it about 2 months ago you inspired me to build a bow I'm doing a board bow now I have it floor tillers and just ordered one of your tillering strings to finsh the project thx for the useful videos and giving me the archery bug
Just got the Mandarin Duck TD longbow, arrived in 7 days from china to the east coast USA, that alone is amazing as I'm still awaiting a vendor package from Florida that shipped out 2-1/2 weeks ago, Grrr. I've been heavy into archery since a kid in 1953, all flavors but particularly traditional archery and mostly Hill-style longbows. Needing a backup TD longbow for an upcoming flyaway hog bowhunt I took a chance on the Black Hunter offering and so far I've not be disappointed. I ordered the last 45@28 in stock and that's what arrived, as my Easton digital draw weight scale registers a consistent 45.3lbs holding weight at exactly 28" of draw length (to the front of the bow shelf). I was specifically intrigued with this bow due to the bamboo limbs as that's what I prefer on all longbows. Bottom line, very pleased. Super smooooooth draw to past 28" (thanx to bamboo), good speed with 10 to 12 gpp woodies and carbons alike. There is some boinging noise happening on release as the R/D limbs and tips do their wiggles, this is normal, but that was easily tamed with a pair of wool silencers inserted into the string ... speaking of which, the supplied string was a tad too short at 56-1/2", so I spun up a new B55 14 strand endless string at 57-1/2", which is a teeny bit long as I expected and that allowed putting in some good twists to nicely round it off. This yields a brace height of 8" to the depth of the grip. The supplied swatch of sticky backed hair hide would make a good shelf rest (there should have been instructions to let newbies know to make sure the hair points forward when making a hair rest), but I prefer Velcro sticky back loop instead. All in all, for the low price point, overall good build and materials, and good performance (stable on the release and fast arrow speed), I'll give this bow 9 out of 10 stars .... if it lasts without issues for a year's worth of shooting I'll up that rating to 10 stars. Cheers! :)
I've got the #40 & #50 they both perform really nicely. Bearpaw whisper string & beaver balls make it whisper quiet 😁. The #40 is forgiving at 29.5" the #50 stacks massively but is stupidly fast with heavy aluminiums. Point on at 55yards shooting split finger.
Yeah everyone is different. Personally I prefer primitive high poundage self bows or composite horn bows,and English longbows. All preferably 65lbs and up
Limb nock breakage is the most common bowyer defect. But they don't tell you if they dry fired it or struck something with the nock while shooting. No matter how well you build something there's always breakage.
Sold me, been thinking about getting both bows and now I am!!! I know it's not a Black Widow but as long as it shoots good at the 3d shoots is what matters!!!
I have the recurve version of this by Junxing #30 and absolutely love it. Bought it second hand for $100 Australian . Started shootings with some cheap ish eBay carbon arrows and after I bought the black eagle vintage 500 spine. There was no setup or tuning necessary, the combination works like a charm.
Touching on the black hunter recurve. I bought the 35 and 45 lbs. huge difference in smoothness!!! The 35lbs is noisy and not so smooth. 45lbs bow is just freaking amazing and silent even before pitting beaver pelt.
I have been wanting to try this Black Hunter with the longbow limbs for over a year now. I have many many high dollar trad bows both recurves and longbows. I took delivery on the Black Hunter longbow yesterday and all I can say is wow! How can they produce a bow of this quality for a few bucks over a hundred dollars!!! I am definitely impressed. Will I sell my custom bows? No way, but man I am impressed with this little bow.
Great bow it was one of four on my birthday list I made for my wife to decide a present among other things I hinted at. This bow has made me very happy seeing Kramer's review solidified my personal opinion of this bow. I have a modest 5 bows in my own collection but this is my favorite shooter.
16:33 The back of the riser that holds the top limb has a hump down the middle. The mound of that hump has two well defined "vertical" ridge lines. The left vertical line is center to the shelf. I place a "horizontal" piece of masking tape about halfway from the top of the back of the riser and the bottom of that cut away on the back of the riser. Now, at 20 yards to my 48"x48" target that masking tape and left vertical ridge line form a "crosshair" that makes a type of ghost sight due to how our eyes work. It's like an overlay you can see the target through.
I recently purchased the black hunter long bow in 45#. I was very careful with the assembly, and have been flexing it every day without shooting it. Treating it as carefully as possible. The recommended spine arrow is 500 with a 125 grain point, I'll start there.
I have the 60lb version with 555gr wooden arrows cut to 29" 60-65 spine. Absolute LASER and hits like a truck, not only did I get a passthrough on my first deer at about 15 yards, but the impact knocked it to the ground for a second before it jumped up and ran 20 yards before dying. Went to recover the arrow and it was buried in the ground directly under where I hit the deer, such an amazing bow if you have proper arrows for it, ill never need another bow.
I love your channel. You are a really a smart guy and your competence about bows pp. is amazing. There are a lot of people out there, on YT or elsewhere, but your channel is outstanding. The way you are "teaching" us about bows is great: You're authentic, down to earth and really entertaining. All in all you're doing a good job, and as long as you don't loose your enthusiasm, you'll have success. Thanks for your work and all the best for you and your family. Including dogs and cats 🙂
I’ve had this same bow for about 2 weeks (40lb) and have shot about 200 arrows through it. I shot traditional decades ago and this bow has rekindled my interest in archery. I would echo your remarks on how smooth it shoots and how low the hand shock is. I draw 31.5 so I reduced the brace height to 5 inches which is less than the recommended height but it still shoots fine. So far 110% happy with the purchase. Nice review
My wife and I have three of these. A 45#, a 50# that my wife stole from me (I mean stole! Just a smile and a smooch and bye bye) and my 60#. We love these bows and from a wall full of bows these ste the ones that get shot the most. Great review, great system and honest evaluation.
Hey 👋! I am so blown away by your articulate presentation! I am a proud owner of my Black Hunter recurve bow! And I found most of what you express to be true (in my limited ability as a shooter only) it just feels so right too! Your talent for building bows is not overshadowed by the bows you test, nor do they most likely, outshine your work. I’m a student of the great Canadian Master, Gare Chayne and now a huge fan of yourself! I have subscribed to your channel and look forward to more of your presentations! Can you explain what I call (for lack of the correct term, “unaiming)” which is to say, shooting without aiming, yet hitting many bullseyes. I ask because, apparently, that’s the best way for me to shoot and hit the target. And I am a newbie at 70 years; so I’ll take what I can get in just about everything! Thankz! JGL
Great reviews, Kudos! My question is are the tips reinforced? Can it handle D97 or fast flight strings? Recommendations? Hunting, field archery competition, coming back to the sport... thanks in advance. Can you review the blackhunter "Elite", and the "BH Stealth", next ?? Thanks.
I bought one three or four years back #45. Put a Flemish twist string, leather grip pad. Love it! Poor man's Acadian Woods Tree Stick. Also bought the #40 limbs for off season.
I have two of these in the longbow both at #45. One is a Lefty and one a Righty. I couldn't be more pleased with the performance I get from them. Having quite a few bows and some are custom builds I usually grab the Black Hunter longbow for my go to. Good job on the video.
Just got this bow for my first bow just awaiting delivery... Gone for left hand version at 35lb . paired with some 32 inch full carbon .400 spine 4in natural fletched arrows with 100grain heads.. Looking forward to seeing how I get on with this set up....love your channel found it very informative for the new archer like myself...nice to see such a good review for the black hunter longbow..gives me hope I've made a good buy..
Did someone recommend those arrows for you? Seems a bit to stiff to me. I shoot 400 spine but at 50 lbs, and I still had to add more weight up front. Anyway, you're gonna LOVE the grip on that bow!
I bought the Black Hunter from 2018, 2 years ago directly from the producer in China (Junxing Archery). I paid for the rizer with 3 pairs of recurvelimbs (30.35 & 40 pounds) and 3 pairs of longbow limbs with the same trowweight and paid $ 220, - excluding duties and taxes. this bow is still one of my favorites.
I have one of these. It was great for my first real bow. Unfortunately, I broke the limb tip. It was my fault and a total newbie kind of thing trying to sting it in a bad way. Because of the pandemic and the shutdown of supply chains I have not been able to get a replacement set of limbs. I almost just bought a whole new one but ended up getting a 62" single-piece longbow. Figured as a new archer I might as well see what else was out there. Some day if the limbs become available I will replace them and shoot it again. Until then, at least it breaks down for easy storage.
I got this bow based on this video, I've had it for 4 months and it will shoot 2" groups at 35 yards. And honestly if it wasn't for me that could be tightened up.
I’ve been interested in archery for some time and I’m finding your videos & reviews very helpful in pointing me in the right direction in selecting my first gear.
Hey Kramer I just bought the Black Hunter longbow in 45lbs and I think it is great for the price. I let some friends try and they were very impressed with it. They will be looking to buy it themselves.
I bought this bow a few months ago . 60 pound draw weight at 28 inches , it is by far my most accurate and dependable bow that I own. I would have no problem paying a few hundred dollars more to get this version at 80 pounds draw if it were possible .
Hi from sunny England UK, have just ordered a black hunter 60 inch 35 pull weight for my first bow Thanks for all the info great channel Regards Rick Atter
HUH I REVIEWED THIS BOW I THINK 2 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY KINDA FIRST CAME OUT AND WERE FOR SALE AT $200 AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE IT STILL AROUND AND FOR HALF THE PRICE. IF YOU EVER WANT TO GET INTO ARCHERY AND NOT REGRET IT START WITH THIS LONG BOW!!!
Hi @kramer, I bought this bow in Feb 2020 and love it. I then bought horse bow (Mongolia!, Turkish and Korean). Have you tried these "horse bows" , would you be interested to review these type of bows? I'd bet you could build one of these and I would be eager to watch you build these type of bows also. Thanks for your time and enthusiasm. You are the best and most exciting laminated bow builders I have ever watched on TH-cam. Stay safe and God bless you.
Great longbow. My bottom tip overlay fell off after about over 1000 arrows. Glued up another, reshaped and its back up and running like a champ. It was my fault for being rough with the limb while stringing using the step through method. Use a stringer and they should stay on a lot longer. Riser is cut a bit past center so it’s very easy to tune arrows to achieve good arrow flight. You can’t beat this bow for 100$
Found a Black Hunter longbow for sixty dollars... that shocked me today... the price... cheap... but an excellent bow... the longbows can be found online really cheap at the moment... the older versions... same price I bought a custom string for a Mongolian bow from you guys today plus two sets of beaver silencers... unreal how cheap they make the Black Hunter bows for lately... when it runs out wonder if the bizarre bow prices will ever happen again for such a nice bow...? Amazing price for what is in the package if you get what you order of course... some do not...
I’ve pretty much have only heard good things about this bow for the last couple of years so I wanna grab one for myself. My oldest daughter turns 13 in a week and has shown some interest in archery, and recurve none the less. I feel like young girls gravitate to recurves, my youngest sisters first two bows were recurve and she was deadly with them! Anyway do you think this bow would be a good first bow? If anyone reads this comment me back what you think or a short story of experience with it. It would be greatly appreciated!!! I should probably add that she is tall for her age has long arms and legs and is very athletic because she dances Trad Irish Step Dance. If that would make a difference. Thanks for any help you can be!!
The further back you draw a recurve, the more you are engaging the re curves! It's the re curves that increase the spead of the string recovery. Hence why horse bows are fast for their size and strength.
Today was so rained in I left the bows inside and grabbed a rifle... an older Winchester and shot it some... LOL! But I do like the archery... was too windy for me when it was blowing things over like my garbage can and more... so feathers on fletching isn't the best for wind... but a good rifle bullet works... was a nice day in the rain... LOL!
I've been chewing on whether or not I want the Black Hunter recurve. I've been a little leery of some of the one star reviews on Amazon that describe the bow coming from together, but as you pointed out (I hadn't noticed the earlier dates on the bad reviews), the durability problems have probably been addressed. Thank you for taking the time to do these reviews; they are very helpful for those of us just entering the archery scene.
So I just received my Black Hunter Longbow 40#. Is there anyone that could recommend what arrows to use for a beginner? I've been looking at some of the custom made Port Orford Cedar arrows. Although want to start off with something a bit more affordable until I get better at this.
Im using cheap YLS turkey feather carbon arrows off amazon for mine. I got 340 spine which is pretty dang stiff for a #40 lol. i would suggest 450 to 500 spine. They are not the best arrow but you definitely wont be upset if you lose or break one lol. They were about 45 after shipping for 12 feild tiped arrows. Good luck!
Been shooting both the longbow and recurve model for 8 months now. First I bought the longbow, but the limbs were mismarked at 40# @ 28" but it was actually 46.5# @28" and they sent me 40# limbs for free... But they were recurve limbs. I find the longbow to be easier to shoot and more forgiving and it shoots faster, definitely better if you're stringwalking. The recurve is a bit shorter and it's definitely quieter.
I just ordered the mk ii version of the black hunter recurve. From what I've been told when speaking to Mandarin Duck the mk ii differs from the mk i in that it now shares the same limbs for both left and right hand bows. They also say that the limbs shape has been improved for better performance and that: "The max draw length is 31 inch. The 28 inch length is used to measure the draw weight. When we switched to the new version, we corrected the specs documents as well." So far I have not seen any comparison between the two versions.
MKI used a maple core limb. MKII is a bamboo core and the bolts are bigger as there were issues with their durability. The same limb type has only been recently introduced and both versions exist in parallel. Mandarin Duck is a distributor and buy from a Chinese Manufacturer (that is not Junxing) and get it branded for them. We know this as we had an agent visiting the manufacturer for us and got proof that they make Mandarin Duck bows there also.
@@ArcheryParkNZ Thanks that's good info. As with many items from China it seams that a design can have many different producers. After speaking with Junxing I think that they also manufacture their version of the black hunter. I bought mine (mmkII) from Mandarin Duck. It's decent but the libs fit to the riser isn't stellar. Had to round of some corners. No big deal. My 30lb bow measures 38lb on my 31.5" DL.
@@Thestripper1 In the end it is a cheap, mass produced bow. So it won't have the same fit as a much more expensive bow. Yes, Junxing make a bow that is 99% the same, with some minor differences - but that's not the one Mandarin Duck sells.
@@Thestripper1 I would have rated them the same up to ca. 1 year ago. That was when Junxings paintjob on the limbs became really, really poor with bubbles, paint missing, finger prints that couldn't be removed and lots of scratches. We had that problem on about 20% of their bows, so we swapped away from them completely. Up to that point we sold both manufacturers in order not to rely on just one. But I am glad to hear that you're happy with your bow - and that's what counts in the end! Shooting and having fun with it!
I got a 40 lb Black Hunter recurve for Christmas and I absolutely love it. I have not shot a bow for about 20 yrs and this bow gave me so much confidence. My form and grouping have gotten very consistent and tight. Already thinking of a new bow. Any recommendation? Great vid btw.👍🏾🏹🎯
I consider to get a Black Hunter from Mandarin Duck. I guess it's the same bow. I have practised archery 20 years ago and had a Samick target bow, 70 inch length. I started with 36 pounds and bought 42 pounds limbs after a while when I had been more well trained. But with this cheap bow you don't need to replace the limbs but get the entire bow. I know it's recommended not to start with a strong bow. But I think I will soon want more than 30 pounds. Maybe get both a 30 and 40 pounds with the same order? Do you use the 30 pound bow for warming up or just now and then to avoid overwork?
Just ordered the black hunter recurve and went to your website and ordered the D97 string with silencers. Thanks for all of your vids.. They are great.. Yak
The 40lb Black Hunter takedown I got for $110. The riser is lightweight, looks and feels nice. The limbs were fine too. Had no problem with the string, adjusted the brace height to 7.5" and it did well. Maybe that guy in the ratings didn't set it up right or maybe he didn't wax the string. I waxed mine. Have no complaints.
Thanks for the review! I just got my new Black Hunter longbow today. Just put a flemish twist string on it with some string silencers and a Bear hair rest. Shoots amazing! Absolute darts! Crazy good bow for the price. Definitely happy with it. Thanks again!
I have a 2.5 year old Black Hunter and it is an excellent bow, even at the $200 price point paid at the time. Currently coming in under $100, it is a no brainer for those possing "normal" draw lengths. Unfortunately, it exhibits some noticable stack up at my 29.5" draw; but it doesn't discourage shooting. I wish they made this same bow in a 62" or 64" AMO, or perhaps offered longer limbs as an option; assuming one can do so without increasing riser length. Still, all said and done, it is a fine bow.
Yeah. Ive been rocking the 64 inch recurve from them (spyder xl) has no problem putting down 6 inch groups at 40 yards. And that's with my sub- par skill set.
Great videos, thanks for such concise information. I've decided to get a black hunter longbow with a 30# draw. I'm an absolute noob to archery, and can't spend a lot. Can you recommend some good budget arrows for this bow? There seems like so many options, and since I don't know anything, I don't want to buy ones that will work against me.
I have one of these bows. I think it is a very good value. My only complaint is the grip on the riser feels and little small for my hand. It is not so small that it prevents me from using it but it is something I can feel. As a point of reference I usually wear an xxL golf glove. An XL glove feels tight. good luck
I bought mine on ebay direct from China over 2 years ago (also 40lb) and love it! It is all the great things you have said. But my longbow limbs are shaped at the riser end to match the riser, not squared off.
Both the kid and I have this bow ....made the classic mistake ( on purpose ...knew I was doing it ) ...went ahead and got the #50 pound limbs ( required for big game hunting) thinking ..."train like you fight" and all that. ....really should have gone lighter ...would practice a lot more . Love the bow BTW
I bought the 50# variant of this bow last year to use for the upcoming deer season. I saw this review and several others that gave almost nothing short of high praise so I felt confident jumping on one when I found it on sale at like $78. I had very little archery experience prior to this purchase aside from making a few PVC bows nearly a decade ago so I wasn't sure if I'd be ready to take it out hunting when deer season approached. I watched what must have been hundreds of videos trying to figure out how to tune arrows to the bow that were suitable for hunting, how to aim the bow consistently, etc. I settled on string walking, in about a 4 week period I went from losing arrows every day to getting 6 inside of 5-6" at 20-25 yards consistently using the exact setup I planned to hunt with. I took 4 deer in the first week out, all at about 20 yards and it really solidified in my mind what an excellent purchase I had made. I'm coming up on a solid year since my purchase now and not long after deer season ended I got another for my wife, a 35# recurve and I constantly recommend this bow to everyone every chance I get. My only regret is that I didn't get one sooner seeing as I'd been eyeing one since I saw the NuSensei review like 7 years ago lol.
Thank you for your bow reviews including the Black Hunter 'longbow' version. I own 4 of these bows and enjoy them very much for their smoothness, accuracy, quietness, and pleasure in simply shooting 'Trad' archery. I am 74 years old shortly and have owned many, many, traditional bows including Bear, Herters, expensive hand-crafted bows. I liked each of them for what they were and enjoyed a Stotler handcrafted bow ($700+) the most. However, my second choice for pleasure is the inexpensive Black Hunter long-bow (Twig Archery) as unbelievable as it may sound. Archery is a great hobby and in many ways a health builder i.e. physical strength, hand-eye coordination, mental relaxation and clarity, and simply just 'Fun'. bill bartholomew, Pennsylvania
Lets give this guy some props for the filming and editing, also the music, its much more than just the content (which is absolutely great and entertaining)!!
You're leaving out the lighting and audio component. Arguably the most important thing to making something watchable, and he nailed it. So many channels mess this part up, but he's done a great job. You can tell he genuinely takes pride in his work
This is my bow, I have many other bows, but this is what I always return to.
Been shooting it for over 3 years, many thousands of arrows through it, and it's been indestructable, fun, and accurate.
Lmao, i read that first part and could think of nothing other than the Creed.
Full metal jacket teach
OOO RAH!!!
@@aftermax01 I was thinking the same!🤣
@@CrazyJ1985 I read the last part of your reply and I thought you were talking about Assassin’s s creed.🤣🤪
I forward this young man's programs to my son-in-law and daughter who have two daughters, both competitive archers. I made my first bow at age 10 from hickory that I laid up for a year and shaved it with broken glass.
This fellow has a wonderful teaching presence.
I have had my black hunter longbow for about two years , with a extra set of limbs. I have had several customs and this is my go to bow, love it.
Just ordered one
Gotta love a guy that shows no prejudice when he reviews an item. So many of the higher profile YT archery guys show contempt for the Chinese bows , whinging about the smallest thing and only review them as the budget bows are so popular and they get a lot of views. Kramer, the bomb!
I think one of many reasons those reviewers do it is because some of them might have connections to local archery shops or even 3Rivers or Lancaster. If they don't have a negative mindset towards forgien bow suppliers, then those suppliers would be legitimate competition for say 3Rivers, whom doesn't want competition, bc competition would mean they would have to lower their prices. 3Rivers wants us to view the Black Hunter as a cheap budget bow so we can spend 300$ on their Old Mesa instead. 200$ more makes some ppl feel like that means its better....has to be.
All of my bows with the exception of 2(Korean supplier and Ukrainian supplier) are from China. Specifically one of the most respected suppliers in the Horsebow market. Zero complaints about them and their bows.
The only true issue is your financing a Communist Chinese party that brought you Covid. Spy balloons flown over our country, deadly drugs brought through our borders and now several thousand illegal military aged fighting personnel into our country.
I’ve had a black Hunter longbow for 6 months now, value for money, they can’t be beaten. I also got some recurve limbs for it, also great but I like the longbow limbs best.👌
The black hunter longbow is a winner! Many more bows to come.
Thanks so much for watching!
Your bow strings are the SHIZNIT! Excellent quality! My go to custom for life brother!
I just bought Black Hunter Longbow. Tried it out and I'm impressed.
Thanks Kramer I bought this bow last week and the only thing I don't like about the bow is the string I will be ordering 1 of your Flemish twist strings this weekend thanks for doing these videos
The fast flight string?
Thanks for taking the time to do these reviews. I'm looking for a bow for my son for Christmas. We have always hunted deer with crossbows but two years ago I purchased a samick sage ( which I love) and took a deer with it this year. No sights, no plunger, just some vibration dampeners and shooting off the shelf. Although, I'm very comfortable with it, I have nothing to compare it to. My son and I have agreed on getting him a different recurve just for the possible differences. We are leaning towards the mandarin duck series...this video helps.
I bought one in May of 2019. It has been wonderful, absolutely zero issues.
Two months ago I started dragging my colleagues to the 3D-Bow Parks in our area on a regular basis. Walking and shooting the park is a really nice social and outdoorsy (but not too physically challenging) thing that can still be done in Covid times. Think golf with arrows. People are really starting to crave these occasions now. In early October I had to persuade people to come along. Now there are so many requests that I nearly can't handle them anymore. All these people need equipment, so your recommendations for entry level bows in the lower price range are very valuable at the moment. Thank you!
Fun random fact, I actually bought this bow by donating plasma 😂
Cool
wait really? thats so cool
You got paid for that? Then you sold it :) good bow, have fun shooting it.
"I HAVE PAID FOR THIS BOW WITH BLOOOOOOOOOOOD. No, really. I donated plasma."
Donating is giving away for free
I shoot the black hunter longbow @ #35 with a 28" draw and I love it smooth , quiet and quick . Easy to shoot and very easy on the pocket 5*s all the way . Thanks for the great reviews.
What arrows are you shooting? Length spine etc
KRAMER IM SO HYPED AND PROUD OF YOU FOR YOUR CHANNEL GROWTH MAN.
Edit: if you see this Kramer I have a question, specifically do you think this bow could be used as a hunting bow? I know some manufacturers make bows just for target shooting so.
You'll find many people online (both on TH-cam and various archery forums) who are hunting quite successfully with this bow. Make sure you know your local laws particularly in regards to draw weight! Many jurisdictions require 40lbs or more to hunt but that's not universal.
stuponfucious7 hey thanks stranger!! Definitely gonna be picking myself up one.
Bought this exact bow 2 years ago on ebay and the top limb broke after 3 months or so. I contacted the seller about it, but he didn't respond. Because I liked the bow so much, I bought replacement limbs from another seller and it still shoots amazing. Bumped about the broken limb and no replacement limb or even response from the first seller, but I'm happy with it now.
Kramer Ammons: I am loving this series. I have the BlackHunter Long bow and recurve and love it. However, after comparing the 10 bows under $100, I wonder if you wouldn't mind taking the top 5 or top 3 and comparing them to the next level bows? As a new archer/bowhunter, I am curious what I am getting for buying a more expensive bow, or alternatively, what am I losing for sticking with the BlackHunter versus say moving up to a bear archery or some other name brand, more expensive bow. Thanks for your consideration!
I love my longbow I've had mine for 2 years and have no problems.
I have the recurve-version. After 20 shot the top limb delaminated. I got a replacement (5 weeks) and after another 200 shots the bottom limb broke through the hardwood core. I got half of the price as a cashback, repaired the limbs carefull with epoxy and shooting the bow without any problems afterwards. Maybe I had just bad luck. The batch seemed to have had problems with the glue (maybe wrong temperature during drying or whatever). But i would still recommend to buy the bow at a company with a little bit of a higher quality control (Drake, Mandarin Duck or something like this) just to avoid such problems. Apart from that: A very smooth and good bow. Keep up your great work and all the best from Germany.
Hi Kramer. Could you take your top... 3 of these bows, and do some "tweaks" to them? better strings, felts, silencers, etc. See what sort of improvements you can get from them? Show us what you can do with a decent bow... with some customizations.
year ago i ordered a black hunter recurve, but instead of this they send me this bow and i love it, my favorite bow, i can confirm all of this in the video.
I bought this bow as my first because of this review and I love it. I throw about 150 arrows a day in this bow is becoming deadly medicine in my hands I will be taking it into the woods a couple weeks from now in coming out with a whitetail.
What draw weight and arrows are you using?
@@bobbarker5884 I have a 40lb at 29 inch draw and I use either 600 spine 30 inch arrows with 125 on the nose or for hunting I use 500 spine 29 1/4 inch arrow with a 100 grain insert with 200grain points for a total of 300 grains in the tip.
My Super Shrew, Black Widow and Tim Meigs bows are gathering dust as these Black Hunter longbows have become my absolute go to on a daily basis !! They perform just as well and in most cases better than their more expensive cousins at a fraction of the price !!
I'm in the UK and have been trying to track this bow down but can't find it available anywhere. It'll be my first bow and I'm sold on your great review - if I can find it!
Mandarin Duck bows 👍🏻 @Alan McCarthy-Pritchard
Same here i couldnt find it so the EK archery adder rx crossbow was my first bow (with 5 shot magazin) now thats a seriously good piece of kit. Definitely recommend the crossbow btw, ihunter website is by far the cheapest I found at £250 vs the £300 plus everywhere else. Definitely want to try this long/recurve bow though, at the minute the crossbow is still super fun.
I bought this bow a few weeks ago - I blame you Kramer >.> LOL, I love this bow. Thanks for the reviews.
At first my groups were a bit fat, but I moved to 1 inch fixed crawl and now it shoots darts from 10 to 30 yards with a variety of arrows. I enjoy this bow every time I take it to the range.
My Mandarin Duck Black Hunter recurve - is great - one limb exploded replaced with a free string no questions asked - have several sets of limbs - and still love the bow
I just got my "longbow" today thanks a lot to this video. Funnily enough however, the base of the limbs look like the longbow limbs, but they're very much the recurve ones. Not the worst thing because on Amazon the recurves are still more expensive & when I do buy some longbow limbs for this they'll fit perfectly. Just odd the way a lot of these bows are handled by the different companies
i got a 40 # longbow,black hunter, got a new string and a leather saddle, its my favorite shooter, everyday, i love it!
I used custom recurves and long bows and I was satisfied, A friend gave me a pre-Florida Bear Hunter recurve in pristene condition it shot as good as some and better than others? "You can't judge a book by its cover"! I use to make primitive bows and never felt I needed a handicap. I enjoy your videos, you know more than I do and I have been at the archery game a long time.
I have had one of each(longbow and recurve)for a little over a year. I like the long bow a little better.. Both are excellent and I can’t get over how stable they are for having such a short riser. Tremendous value!
For a 13 yr old which is better
This has nothing to do directly with this video but I just wanted to say after one of your videos showed up in my feed and I watched it about 2 months ago you inspired me to build a bow I'm doing a board bow now I have it floor tillers and just ordered one of your tillering strings to finsh the project thx for the useful videos and giving me the archery bug
Just got the Mandarin Duck TD longbow, arrived in 7 days from china to the east coast USA, that alone is amazing as I'm still awaiting a vendor package from Florida that shipped out 2-1/2 weeks ago, Grrr. I've been heavy into archery since a kid in 1953, all flavors but particularly traditional archery and mostly Hill-style longbows. Needing a backup TD longbow for an upcoming flyaway hog bowhunt I took a chance on the Black Hunter offering and so far I've not be disappointed. I ordered the last 45@28 in stock and that's what arrived, as my Easton digital draw weight scale registers a consistent 45.3lbs holding weight at exactly 28" of draw length (to the front of the bow shelf). I was specifically intrigued with this bow due to the bamboo limbs as that's what I prefer on all longbows. Bottom line, very pleased. Super smooooooth draw to past 28" (thanx to bamboo), good speed with 10 to 12 gpp woodies and carbons alike. There is some boinging noise happening on release as the R/D limbs and tips do their wiggles, this is normal, but that was easily tamed with a pair of wool silencers inserted into the string ... speaking of which, the supplied string was a tad too short at 56-1/2", so I spun up a new B55 14 strand endless string at 57-1/2", which is a teeny bit long as I expected and that allowed putting in some good twists to nicely round it off. This yields a brace height of 8" to the depth of the grip. The supplied swatch of sticky backed hair hide would make a good shelf rest (there should have been instructions to let newbies know to make sure the hair points forward when making a hair rest), but I prefer Velcro sticky back loop instead. All in all, for the low price point, overall good build and materials, and good performance (stable on the release and fast arrow speed), I'll give this bow 9 out of 10 stars .... if it lasts without issues for a year's worth of shooting I'll up that rating to 10 stars. Cheers! :)
I've got the #40 & #50 they both perform really nicely. Bearpaw whisper string & beaver balls make it whisper quiet 😁. The #40 is forgiving at 29.5" the #50 stacks massively but is stupidly fast with heavy aluminiums. Point on at 55yards shooting split finger.
Yeah everyone is different. Personally I prefer primitive high poundage self bows or composite horn bows,and English longbows. All preferably 65lbs and up
Why? 35# is all I need to hit anything. Although I shoot a 50# compound too.
Limb nock breakage is the most common bowyer defect. But they don't tell you if they dry fired it or struck something with the nock while shooting. No matter how well you build something there's always breakage.
I am watching this every day as I am waiting for my black hunter recurve. Damn am I excited to get my hands on that bow.
Man, I'm doing the same thing..
Sold me, been thinking about getting both bows and now I am!!! I know it's not a Black Widow but as long as it shoots good at the 3d shoots is what matters!!!
I have the recurve version of this by Junxing #30 and absolutely love it. Bought it second hand for $100 Australian . Started shootings with some cheap ish eBay carbon arrows and after I bought the black eagle vintage 500 spine. There was no setup or tuning necessary, the combination works like a charm.
I have the #50 and it was $140aud new, with 12 carbon arrows. Recurve version though, loving it so far. Ordered it and it was at my house the next day
Touching on the black hunter recurve. I bought the 35 and 45 lbs. huge difference in smoothness!!! The 35lbs is noisy and not so smooth. 45lbs bow is just freaking amazing and silent even before pitting beaver pelt.
I have been wanting to try this Black Hunter with the longbow limbs for over a year now. I have many many high dollar trad bows both recurves and longbows. I took delivery on the Black Hunter longbow yesterday and all I can say is wow! How can they produce a bow of this quality for a few bucks over a hundred dollars!!! I am definitely impressed. Will I sell my custom bows? No way, but man I am impressed with this little bow.
Great bow it was one of four on my birthday list I made for my wife to decide a present among other things I hinted at. This bow has made me very happy seeing Kramer's review solidified my personal opinion of this bow. I have a modest 5 bows in my own collection but this is my favorite shooter.
16:33 The back of the riser that holds the top limb has a hump down the middle. The mound of that hump has two well defined "vertical" ridge lines. The left vertical line is center to the shelf. I place a "horizontal" piece of masking tape about halfway from the top of the back of the riser and the bottom of that cut away on the back of the riser. Now, at 20 yards to my 48"x48" target that masking tape and left vertical ridge line form a "crosshair" that makes a type of ghost sight due to how our eyes work. It's like an overlay you can see the target through.
Just bought this bow at 50lbs. Weather is terrible...I'm excited to shoot it. I got the standard, non takedown bow.
I recently purchased the black hunter long bow in 45#. I was very careful with the assembly, and have been flexing it every day without shooting it. Treating it as carefully as possible. The recommended spine arrow is 500 with a 125 grain point, I'll start there.
I have the 60lb version with 555gr wooden arrows cut to 29" 60-65 spine. Absolute LASER and hits like a truck, not only did I get a passthrough on my first deer at about 15 yards, but the impact knocked it to the ground for a second before it jumped up and ran 20 yards before dying. Went to recover the arrow and it was buried in the ground directly under where I hit the deer, such an amazing bow if you have proper arrows for it, ill never need another bow.
I love your channel. You are a really a smart guy and your competence about bows pp. is amazing. There are a lot of people out there, on YT or elsewhere, but your channel is outstanding. The way you are "teaching" us about bows is great: You're authentic, down to earth and really entertaining. All in all you're doing a good job, and as long as you don't loose your enthusiasm, you'll have success. Thanks for your work and all the best for you and your family. Including dogs and cats 🙂
Absolutely LOVING this series. Thanks for putting this together.
I’ve had this same bow for about 2 weeks (40lb) and have shot about 200 arrows through it. I shot traditional decades ago and this bow has rekindled my interest in archery. I would echo your remarks on how smooth it shoots and how low the hand shock is. I draw 31.5 so I reduced the brace height to 5 inches which is less than the recommended height but it still shoots fine. So far 110% happy with the purchase. Nice review
Just got this bow for Christmas. Got my girlfriend the recurve. Had a blast shooting them today
My wife and I have three of these. A 45#, a 50# that my wife stole from me (I mean stole! Just a smile and a smooch and bye bye) and my 60#. We love these bows and from a wall full of bows these ste the ones that get shot the most. Great review, great system and honest evaluation.
Hey 👋! I am so blown away by your articulate presentation! I am a proud owner of my Black Hunter recurve bow! And I found most of what you express to be true (in my limited ability as a shooter only) it just feels so right too! Your talent for building bows is not overshadowed by the bows you test, nor do they most likely, outshine your work. I’m a student of the great Canadian Master, Gare Chayne and now a huge fan of yourself! I have subscribed to your channel and look forward to more of your presentations! Can you explain what I call (for lack of the correct term, “unaiming)” which is to say, shooting without aiming, yet hitting many bullseyes. I ask because, apparently, that’s the best way for me to shoot and hit the target. And I am a newbie at 70 years; so I’ll take what I can get in just about everything! Thankz! JGL
Great reviews, Kudos!
My question is are the tips reinforced?
Can it handle D97 or fast flight strings?
Recommendations?
Hunting, field archery competition, coming back to the sport... thanks in advance.
Can you review the blackhunter "Elite", and the "BH Stealth", next ??
Thanks.
I bought one three or four years back #45. Put a Flemish twist string, leather grip pad. Love it! Poor man's Acadian Woods Tree Stick. Also bought the #40 limbs for off season.
I have two of these in the longbow both at #45. One is a Lefty and one a Righty. I couldn't be more pleased with the performance I get from them. Having quite a few bows and some are custom builds I usually grab the Black Hunter longbow for my go to. Good job on the video.
ordered mine today i cant wait. I wanted to do archery for 2 years finally next week ill have my bow. Love the channel keep up the great video's.!
Just got this bow for my first bow just awaiting delivery... Gone for left hand version at 35lb . paired with some 32 inch full carbon .400 spine 4in natural fletched arrows with 100grain heads.. Looking forward to seeing how I get on with this set up....love your channel found it very informative for the new archer like myself...nice to see such a good review for the black hunter longbow..gives me hope I've made a good buy..
Did someone recommend those arrows for you? Seems a bit to stiff to me. I shoot 400 spine but at 50 lbs, and I still had to add more weight up front. Anyway, you're gonna LOVE the grip on that bow!
I bought the Black Hunter from 2018, 2 years ago directly from the producer in China (Junxing Archery).
I paid for the rizer with 3 pairs of recurvelimbs (30.35 & 40 pounds) and 3 pairs of longbow limbs with
the same trowweight and paid $ 220, - excluding duties and taxes. this bow is still one of my favorites.
I checked the Canadian version of Amazon. It’s $350+ here! I’m just going to pick up new limbs for my samick
I have one of these. It was great for my first real bow. Unfortunately, I broke the limb tip. It was my fault and a total newbie kind of thing trying to sting it in a bad way. Because of the pandemic and the shutdown of supply chains I have not been able to get a replacement set of limbs. I almost just bought a whole new one but ended up getting a 62" single-piece longbow. Figured as a new archer I might as well see what else was out there. Some day if the limbs become available I will replace them and shoot it again. Until then, at least it breaks down for easy storage.
I got this bow based on this video, I've had it for 4 months and it will shoot 2" groups at 35 yards. And honestly if it wasn't for me that could be tightened up.
I’ve been interested in archery for some time and I’m finding your videos & reviews very helpful in pointing me in the right direction in selecting my first gear.
Hey Kramer I just bought the Black Hunter longbow in 45lbs and I think it is great for the price.
I let some friends try and they were very impressed with it. They will be looking to buy it themselves.
I bought this bow a few months ago . 60 pound draw weight at 28 inches , it is by far my most accurate and dependable bow that I own. I would have no problem paying a few hundred dollars more to get this version at 80 pounds draw if it were possible .
Hi from sunny England UK, have just ordered a black hunter 60 inch 35 pull weight for my first bow
Thanks for all the info great channel
Regards
Rick Atter
HUH I REVIEWED THIS BOW I THINK 2 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY KINDA FIRST CAME OUT AND WERE FOR SALE AT $200 AND I'M HAPPY TO SEE IT STILL AROUND AND FOR HALF THE PRICE. IF YOU EVER WANT TO GET INTO ARCHERY AND NOT REGRET IT START WITH THIS LONG BOW!!!
Man I love ur content. Very informative. Also proud owner of the black hunter recurve.
Dude, I'm impressed with this series your doing. Your channel is great, keep it up!
Hi @kramer, I bought this bow in Feb 2020 and love it. I then bought horse bow (Mongolia!, Turkish and Korean). Have you tried these "horse bows" , would you be interested to review these type of bows? I'd bet you could build one of these and I would be eager to watch you build these type of bows also. Thanks for your time and enthusiasm. You are the best and most exciting laminated bow builders I have ever watched on TH-cam. Stay safe and God bless you.
My dad bought him and I both one of these long bows and we both love them. Can’t beat them for the price that’s a fact
I went with a left handed recurved takedown long bow years ago and she’s still going good 62” 55lb
Great longbow. My bottom tip overlay fell off after about over 1000 arrows. Glued up another, reshaped and its back up and running like a champ. It was my fault for being rough with the limb while stringing using the step through method. Use a stringer and they should stay on a lot longer. Riser is cut a bit past center so it’s very easy to tune arrows to achieve good arrow flight. You can’t beat this bow for 100$
Found a Black Hunter longbow for sixty dollars... that shocked me today... the price... cheap... but an excellent bow... the longbows can be found online really cheap at the moment... the older versions... same price I bought a custom string for a Mongolian bow from you guys today plus two sets of beaver silencers... unreal how cheap they make the Black Hunter bows for lately... when it runs out wonder if the bizarre bow prices will ever happen again for such a nice bow...? Amazing price for what is in the package if you get what you order of course... some do not...
I just bought one of these today knowing nothing about bows. I guess the bowyer pointed me in a good direction.
I’ve pretty much have only heard good things about this bow for the last couple of years so I wanna grab one for myself. My oldest daughter turns 13 in a week and has shown some interest in archery, and recurve none the less. I feel like young girls gravitate to recurves, my youngest sisters first two bows were recurve and she was deadly with them! Anyway do you think this bow would be a good first bow? If anyone reads this comment me back what you think or a short story of experience with it. It would be greatly appreciated!!! I should probably add that she is tall for her age has long arms and legs and is very athletic because she dances Trad Irish Step Dance. If that would make a difference. Thanks for any help you can be!!
The further back you draw a recurve, the more you are engaging the re curves! It's the re curves that increase the spead of the string recovery. Hence why horse bows are fast for their size and strength.
Today was so rained in I left the bows inside and grabbed a rifle... an older Winchester and shot it some... LOL! But I do like the archery... was too windy for me when it was blowing things over like my garbage can and more... so feathers on fletching isn't the best for wind... but a good rifle bullet works... was a nice day in the rain... LOL!
I've been chewing on whether or not I want the Black Hunter recurve. I've been a little leery of some of the one star reviews on Amazon that describe the bow coming from together, but as you pointed out (I hadn't noticed the earlier dates on the bad reviews), the durability problems have probably been addressed. Thank you for taking the time to do these reviews; they are very helpful for those of us just entering the archery scene.
So I just received my Black Hunter Longbow 40#. Is there anyone that could recommend what arrows to use for a beginner? I've been looking at some of the custom made Port Orford Cedar arrows. Although want to start off with something a bit more affordable until I get better at this.
Im using cheap YLS turkey feather carbon arrows off amazon for mine. I got 340 spine which is pretty dang stiff for a #40 lol. i would suggest 450 to 500 spine. They are not the best arrow but you definitely wont be upset if you lose or break one lol. They were about 45 after shipping for 12 feild tiped arrows. Good luck!
Been shooting both the longbow and recurve model for 8 months now. First I bought the longbow, but the limbs were mismarked at 40# @ 28" but it was actually 46.5# @28" and they sent me 40# limbs for free... But they were recurve limbs. I find the longbow to be easier to shoot and more forgiving and it shoots faster, definitely better if you're stringwalking. The recurve is a bit shorter and it's definitely quieter.
just ordered it from your website along with your wax! thankyou!
I just ordered the mk ii version of the black hunter recurve. From what I've been told when speaking to Mandarin Duck the mk ii differs from the mk i in that it now shares the same limbs for both left and right hand bows. They also say that the limbs shape has been improved for better performance and that: "The max draw length is 31 inch. The 28 inch length is used to measure the draw weight. When we switched to the new version, we corrected the specs documents as well." So far I have not seen any comparison between the two versions.
MKI used a maple core limb. MKII is a bamboo core and the bolts are bigger as there were issues with their durability. The same limb type has only been recently introduced and both versions exist in parallel. Mandarin Duck is a distributor and buy from a Chinese Manufacturer (that is not Junxing) and get it branded for them. We know this as we had an agent visiting the manufacturer for us and got proof that they make Mandarin Duck bows there also.
@@ArcheryParkNZ Thanks that's good info. As with many items from China it seams that a design can have many different producers. After speaking with Junxing I think that they also manufacture their version of the black hunter. I bought mine (mmkII) from Mandarin Duck. It's decent but the libs fit to the riser isn't stellar. Had to round of some corners. No big deal. My 30lb bow measures 38lb on my 31.5" DL.
@@Thestripper1 In the end it is a cheap, mass produced bow. So it won't have the same fit as a much more expensive bow. Yes, Junxing make a bow that is 99% the same, with some minor differences - but that's not the one Mandarin Duck sells.
@@ArcheryParkNZ I have a feel that the Junxing's version is the better one.
@@Thestripper1 I would have rated them the same up to ca. 1 year ago. That was when Junxings paintjob on the limbs became really, really poor with bubbles, paint missing, finger prints that couldn't be removed and lots of scratches. We had that problem on about 20% of their bows, so we swapped away from them completely. Up to that point we sold both manufacturers in order not to rely on just one. But I am glad to hear that you're happy with your bow - and that's what counts in the end! Shooting and having fun with it!
I got a 40 lb Black Hunter recurve for Christmas and I absolutely love it.
I have not shot a bow for about 20 yrs and this bow gave me so much confidence. My form and grouping have gotten very consistent and tight. Already thinking of a new bow.
Any recommendation?
Great vid btw.👍🏾🏹🎯
I own 3 of these Black Hunter recurves now , and I love them all. A 30#, 45# as well as a 55#. Picking up another very soon , probably a 50#.
I consider to get a Black Hunter from Mandarin Duck. I guess it's the same bow. I have practised archery 20 years ago and had a Samick target bow, 70 inch length. I started with 36 pounds and bought 42 pounds limbs after a while when I had been more well trained. But with this cheap bow you don't need to replace the limbs but get the entire bow.
I know it's recommended not to start with a strong bow. But I think I will soon want more than 30 pounds.
Maybe get both a 30 and 40 pounds with the same order?
Do you use the 30 pound bow for warming up or just now and then to avoid overwork?
Just ordered the black hunter recurve and went to your website and ordered the D97 string with silencers. Thanks for all of your vids.. They are great.. Yak
The 40lb Black Hunter takedown I got for $110. The riser is lightweight, looks and feels nice. The limbs were fine too. Had no problem with the string, adjusted the brace height to 7.5" and it did well. Maybe that guy in the ratings didn't set it up right or maybe he didn't wax the string. I waxed mine. Have no complaints.
great revue of a great bow,..bought this on your recommendation,...and now i have 3,...all great bows.
thank you
chuck pizzitola
Thanks for the review! I just got my new Black Hunter longbow today. Just put a flemish twist string on it with some string silencers and a Bear hair rest. Shoots amazing! Absolute darts! Crazy good bow for the price. Definitely happy with it. Thanks again!
I have a 2.5 year old Black Hunter and it is an excellent bow, even at the $200 price point paid at the time. Currently coming in under $100, it is a no brainer for those possing "normal" draw lengths. Unfortunately, it exhibits some noticable stack up at my 29.5" draw; but it doesn't discourage shooting. I wish they made this same bow in a 62" or 64" AMO, or perhaps offered longer limbs as an option; assuming one can do so without increasing riser length. Still, all said and done, it is a fine bow.
Cada vez me dan mas ganas de comprar un black hunter, muy buena la serie !
Yo también!!
I got a Southwest Archery Ghost Takedown Longbow 64” in 29lb for meditation/plinking about six months ago, can report it’s a good one.
Yeah. Ive been rocking the 64 inch recurve from them (spyder xl) has no problem putting down 6 inch groups at 40 yards. And that's with my sub- par skill set.
Great videos, thanks for such concise information. I've decided to get a black hunter longbow with a 30# draw. I'm an absolute noob to archery, and can't spend a lot. Can you recommend some good budget arrows for this bow? There seems like so many options, and since I don't know anything, I don't want to buy ones that will work against me.
I see no one answered. I have the same question. Did you find good arrows for it?
I have one of these in 45#. I love shooting it. I have bows up to $1000Aus and the black hunter is just as good as them.
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I have one of these bows. I think it is a very good value. My only complaint is the grip on the riser feels and little small for my hand. It is not so small that it prevents me from using it but it is something I can feel. As a point of reference I usually wear an xxL golf glove. An XL glove feels tight. good luck
I bought mine on ebay direct from China over 2 years ago (also 40lb) and love it! It is all the great things you have said. But my longbow limbs are shaped at the riser end to match the riser, not squared off.
Both the kid and I have this bow ....made the classic mistake ( on purpose ...knew I was doing it ) ...went ahead and got the #50 pound limbs ( required for big game hunting) thinking ..."train like you fight" and all that. ....really should have gone lighter ...would practice a lot more . Love the bow BTW
Thanks for the heads-up comparison with the recurve version. So glad I bought the long bow version.