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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ย. 2024
- #sub250g #FPV #2fiddy
Time for some crash testing. How will this sub250g frame break? Find out!
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Maybe it's just me but it's kinda hard to hear what you're saying over the music in some parts! Great video and production value though!
agreed, needs audio ducking :)
I can hear it well on my speakers
hmmm ill start paying closer attention and use headphones. thanks for the heads up
@@ummagawdFPV dont stress too much man, its already one hell of a production 😎
@@ummagawdFPV I personally didn't have any issues, but can see where some people could. That's a sick build and you're making me want to get a CNC so I can make my own frames from sheet carbon.
I felt worse for the tree than the quad; well done.
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Shame on you thommy
Excellent stuff Tommy. Why didn't you fly VLOS into the wall? Just wonderin :-)
hey Bruce! my LOS skills are limited (like bringing the kwad back after losing video), I dont think i could have sent it to the wall with the same speed
Clearly because VLOS flying is too safe, he'd never collide with anything ;)
@@remotecontrolaholic Hahaha
@@remotecontrolaholic Whahahaha, good one!
Bro that thing is awesome. I bet I could break it. Seems like I have the worst luck with little crashes breaking everything and bad crashes don't break much except for my last crash.
....And that ´s exactly why I´m never gonna design a frame. My soul just wouldn´t survive this.
lol, i have carbon splinters all over my hands and fingers that remind me how much it hurts to break a frame on purpose
Love seeing this come along!
bot in da housssssssssse
Botgrinder I enjoy the long distance live video today (01-12-21) you almost shit your self when the quad was heading to the river and that was awesome!!!
@@edgarreyes4815 haha thanks bro
If you needed it crashed, you should’ve called me. I got my Ph. D in “crashlogy” with a concentration in destructive behaviors.
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When is this thing going to be on the market tommy!? I can’t wait for this bad boy!!
well I wasn't planning to release it this early, but y'all are determined lol. So I'm working on launching pre-order this week as soon as I get some confirmation dates from my MFG
@@ummagawdFPV I want one
@@ummagawdFPV I want this frame, :) love you work, can't wait to see what I could do with it. Good job 👍🏾
@@ummagawdFPV love your work! Can I have one to further test?
Such a nice build series you're creating here, I'm on the edge of my seat in every episode, awesome work 😊
Thanks! It’s a bit of work to make this kind of content, so I appreciate the comment. Let’s me know it’s worth it
I fully agree! Keep it up,@@ummagawdFPV ! 👌
Damn homie way tougher than I thought! I guess this is one of the main directions the hobby is going in! I appreciate your hard work and great skillz while at the same time wishing we didn’t have to worry about all these regulations!
Instead of throwing you should have flown it line of sight into concrete wall for last test! 🤩🤓👹
I love this channel! You and cricket are awesome bro! I hope I get to work with you guys one day!
i feel ya, i wish 350g was the number, it feels awesome there
@@ummagawdFPV build a micro efficient battery and you will be rich!
Quality Content this!
conclusion; it its like the terminator 1000 from t2, indestructible expect you are a sadist :) excellent job 👍👍👍👍
11:44 what a montage! 😆 💥 😬
And suddenly, a new TikTok craze is born: "I destroyed Tommy's frame like this!!!!!"
Jeebus I want it! Can't wait to see what you put together! I really wish we could petition the powers that be to nudge that weight limit to 300-350g. At the end of the day it's an arbitrary line in the sand and I think there is a lot of benefit/risk ratio left in the equation in favour of safe lightweight operation. It seems aimed at maximum kinetic energy/damage capability...160km/h (45m/s) at 250g = ~500 joules. I guess it's hard to be specific about top speed so they had to more explicitly limit mass...end of the day they all have enough mass to all cause catastrophic fod to a jet engine on ingestion. Rant over...I guess just give us this frame!
must have!plz give me thumbs up 🙋♂🙋♂🙋♂
the music is way too loud...
Oh well... We had Schrödinger, the cat torturer... And now Tommy, the frame torturer! 😂😂😂😂😂
Fantastic job, dude!!!
Stay safe there! 🖖😊
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A "smashing" video Tommy...! Great job with this little guy, project is going well! 👌👌 stay safe brother 🙏
I see what you did there 😂
@@ummagawdFPV 🤣🤣👊👊 much love brother 🙏🙏
No, not easy peesy 😁 I really appreciate how much you put into designing the remix it was an awesome frame.. I recently sold my rotor riot remix build for 580🇬🇧 that's around 8OO🇺🇸
More content Tomski😀👍
Great testing Tommy!!!!
Suggestion: For Frame testing only = Build the frame weight it down without using expensive electronics. Say just pieces of lead weight for battery weight camera FC ESC and motors.
That way you could just test the strength of the frame with an actual all up weight of 268 g without the expensive electronics on board smashing the frame into the concrete wall. Just a suggestion it would be a lot cheaper and you could repeat the test many times without fear of ruining your electronics.
yea I've thought of that... but I wanted the authenticity of exactly how it would crash flying vs throwing it.
@@ummagawdFPV I figured as much !!!! Awesome pushing the boundaries brotha keep on innovating!!!!
really enjoy this series 🤘🤘
looking forward to seeing how you'll fit a naked gopro in there :)
Amazing frame tommy!! You Keep pushing our hobby further and further.. first the acrobrat, than the reverse cinewhoop (like beta 95) and now a great durable frame under 250gr.. you're the best of all us!!! 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
I don't think my heavier 5" builds would have performed as well - testimony to the lighter weight, AND your design => WELL DONE TOMMY!!! I also totally agree on the failure location was optimal - which is why I buy spare arms w/ a new frame ;) With the release of DJI V2 goggle, I keep wondering where I'm going to start experimenting w/ HD FPV. I'd thought 4" sub 250g long range...but with DJI's crappy OSD support & no OSD data in DVR, I won't be doing long range HD...but sub 250g 5" freestyle?!?!? rip a quiet corner of a park & not piss off the locals/neighbors? I think you have something here...
Greetings a question my drone has emax 2306 motors of 2400 Kv in 4S and I fly it with 5040 propellers with 3 blades and I put a 6040 propellers with 2 blades and when accelerating it vibrates a lot, how can I solve that with the pids that I was already moving it and well This is how I could remove some vibration but I need ideas here I send you the configuration of how the pids are to see if you can guide me how to remove those vibrations when accelerating to the maximum, the pids are master multiplier =. 07, PD Balance = 1.1, PYD Gain = 1.4, thanks and regards.
This is why I have just purchased the Demibot frame. You just can’t do this with bnf, yes they look good and fly great but just don’t have balls to stand an impact. Way to go guys. Keep up the good work.
Keep it up Tommy , let’s get some 6 inch moon goat arms maybe 🤔 help carry the extra weight on the hd builds 🤷♂️
Ok Tommy!!!! We have a problem. Now I live in Singapore, that tiny, but awesome country in south east Asia. There’s a heap of us that would LOVE to buy your motors and frame and whatever else you have to sell us for this sub250g project BUT your shipping here makes it pretty much impossible. bro.. it’s $50 to ship. Do you know how many of your battery straps I can get from that? I mean that’s half the price of crickets f7 stack! Can you pretty please look into it?
Too painful to watch, but definitely a nice crash test. Pushes me to buy! ;-)
Damn, was all confused during that video.....
Where's the naked gopro??? :p
Is the frame designed to help protect it?
I want mini GoPro drone!
Fyi, Aluminum wire is about 1/2 the weight of copper, but it's a whole world of pain to work with. (special crimp terminals or ultrasonic welding are required) Looks like silver wire could save 20% of the wire weight and would still work with standard solder joints. Higher temper insulation on thinner wire might be a better attack, as you can get insulation rated up to 200C pretty easily.
Tommy- that was astounding. If you were tightening screws, then they stretched from the impact, rather than breaking the arm. You flew it back! Stress fracture? Possibly, but you didn’t X-ray to know. Rinse and repeat a number of times? I was amazed that the motor bearings and shaft were good. Low mass! You have it really really great in that the arm acted as a fuse and absorbed the impact rather than the main body, as designed. Absolutely positively wondermus example of beta testing. Sales date? Need a little brother for your first one..........
The question is.. If you want to fly in a bando, do you really need to be sub 250?
I don't know about the new FAA regulations but it should be prohibited to fly bandos in a city anyway? So you would probably need permission of the owner anyway.
But this build however would just be awesome for outdoor. Can't wait to see your new improvements. And I guess you could save some more weight off of the frame.
Wonder if DJI is doing something like this for their upcoming FPV drone....I'd like to see that.
Don't you want to return to Analog vTX to decrease weght ?
other side analog vtx pilots are more yet than DJI or Frostbyte pilots but it will change someday ..... maybe .
LMFAO watching that crash footage in high speed with the ding at the end is freaking hilarious!!!! Awsome frame Tommy! can't wait to try it
You build it. I'll buy it and we will all crash it and tell you about it!
oh I'm sure you all will 😂
I'm convinced the frame for a Sub 250g build is one of the toughest I seen. Take my money I'm ready..lol
Hey Tommy, have you ever tried to layer the carbon with something like glass bulletproofing laminate? It's bendy but really strong
Screws loose? They are rubber screws, arms fold on impact and come back to initial position. LOL. I want the frame, the motors and your bike :D
Love seeing the design process.
What's the chances, during an intentional crash, the drone gets deflected away from the object by the props and the frame doesn't even hit?
Maybe the light weight design makes it more easily defected by the props.
11:58 don’t lie to yourself man, it makes perfect sense that the arm broke there since it’s the place with the least carbon on the arm, plus it has a joint with metal, which isn’t flexible, meaning it won’t absorb the energy, therefore making the carbon take all of it, what u need is to reinforce that small point and maybe compensate for the weight with a couple holes elsewhere.
Regardless, this is an amazing job you’ve done so far. And I’m really impressed, not gonna lie. I’ve been thinking about getting into the 250g world and these videos are definitely very informative.
Strip the Vista and save 13g of Heat sink! I love the Videos! So much work and the Result is awesome!
Tommy, good sir, you are a huge success and it is apparent.
What I felt was important to mention however, is that your realness and transparency are off the charts bro.
WE ALL APPRECIATE those qualities in you thoroughly, and I myself hope to channel those aspects through my work daily as well.
Thank you and MASSIVE CONGREGULARIANS on this sweet new frame.
Looking forward very much to having the little 'fiddy' in The Wulff Fleet soon.
See You In The Sky!
You really need to improve the frame! I mean to make it less than 250g. It would be a bomb!!! Thank you Tommy for the video and your work!
No trees were harmed, in the production of this video. Ok, ok, 1 tree, but it was fully compensated.
ever thought about some sort of shock absorbing camera bracket? some kind of shock system. so it has a little give... might be a thought.
I still have Tom's first frame MK1 early version with the little wheels and it's still going strong . I can tell already this one is gonna be Super Strong ...
I’d start using Velcro for the battery like you know who . But I know you want to keep selling ummagrrip
i hope someone would work with Velcro or similar company and give us very light and strong battery straps.
if you look at battery straps we're using now, they look like they have a few bandages to solve issues we had before. the battery straps we're using now are good, but i think we can do better.
Maybe put a 2x10 over the tree? Horizontal slices through the bark are super bad for the tree...
Would a 5S 450mah come out at
Where the arm breaks KababFPV says the same about the glide you can make the arms stronger but instead of breaking the arms it’ll just break the bottom plate
Tommy, awesome as usual. I’m am conflicted. I am enjoying these videos but I want you to finish so I can buy one of these...
BTW, what's the flight time with 6s 450mah lipo on this quad? 3min or 1min? :)
Some people wants to buy drone (like me i have 1) and some people like tommy just wonders what happens if I crash my drone from this angle ? mmmm
Hopefully it doesn’t have the same issue as the Moongoat. I purchased a couple of Moongoat frames and after several crashes, the housing that holds the camera has routed out the grooves it sits in and causes jello. No way to avoid other than to never crash....
You da man Tommy. Went from ruining the hobby to saving the hobby! Hahahaha
Not that you ever really ruined it, just was accused of it..
Got my money ready... tell me where to order it from ! Thanks for all you've done brother 💪💣👍
Are you ready for me to give you money for that frame yet? Anxiously waiting on this rumored PREsale!
Just before flying my 2Fiddy, watching this video always makes me super confident!!! 😁😆
Cutting micros is a pain because that 2mm hardware. Snapping 1.8-2mm burr bits for the small guys. Larger frames that let you get away with a 3mm burr bits are pretty trouble free by comparison. As for dust, that is why I chose the machine I did, all my milling is done under water and runs through a filter to capture my spoil/dust.
This is fantastic maybe have a thin bar that goes in between the two front arms, if it take a direct hit it will brake but could spare the camera but let's say one arm gets caught it transfers some of the load to the other arm over some tension. Could sacrifice some grams....
Stepping in the right direction for sure my dude. 350mah 6s tho? Man what's that get ya like 2min flights??? Interested
I enjoyed that video far more than I should have 🙂, you got a sub and a purchase from that one. Thank you 😊
I got pretty good at flying fpv acro. I would still be flying if shit didn't break on every crash. If I had a quad like this I'd still be flying fpv now. Maybe it's time to get back into fpv n get this quad.
Freaking love your editing style. I don’t want this series to end lol. If it does I’m hoping you have something else in the pipeline
I’ll pull some thin’ out of my sleeve
Dam @xjet why you giving Tommy shit for. 😂 Looks as tough as us Kiwi's Tommy, good shit dude.🔥👊🔥
Typically you just re write the program. Not sure why you would edit the code manually
In addition I don't think the screws actually loosen. I think they stretch during a significant impact and thats wht you have to tighten them again. I'm no expert, but 30 years of twisting wrenches teaches you a few things.
Really great video! Hey I live in Southern California and I’d like to make a small run of my own frames, who can I contact to get the ball rolling?
oh man this is my dream job QC and RAD on mil spec Porsha grade skychickens
Thanks, Tommy - Absolutely love the journey to your 5" 250g build.
really beautiful Frame and kwad. 😍👍🏻 you gonna hit HomeRun!!!
Gotta think of the velocity of how you threw it where flying its not spinning all around like when you threw it
Ummagawd! That’s awesome!
Great work buddy.
Oh, hell yeah! That was fun. I wish I were there. I want one of these. Gimmie Gimmie Gimmie. Hahaha
PLEEEEEASE!
Hey tommy you fly as well as I do when I’m not even product testing!!
Great video... but oh man was I cringing with every crash!
TOMMY THE SAMURAI , katana the shit of that frame
the first 2 minutes i could not hear a thing of what you are saying due to the music being too loud...
Every time my 2fiddy hit the ground at lease one arm breaks
I get the lighweight batteries, but what kind of flight times can you get ripping and cruising mix with 350 and 450mah? Buying one regardless. Keep up the hard work!
3.5 mins with the 350mah
@@ktranization I'm going to have to try this 6s thing out if its that good. I have a 4s 1550 rig with 1700kv motors and get 4min if i just cruise the whole time.
6s 450 I’m getting over 6min depending on what I’m doing... with the 4s 450 I get around 4, closer to 5 and sometimes over depending on what I’m dojngt
@@ummagawdFPV I should of just payed attention in your last video. Can't wait for this frame.
It's a really nice looking frame, glad it's holding up well
Impressively durable sub 250g freestyler🤟
I almost feel the pain myself when watching this thing crashes)))
Your music is way too loud! This seems to be very common these days...
I love the music selection for these videos XD Well done my man, love the effort that went into this, keep it up ;)
Question. Why disarm before crashing into the ground when most of us crash still armed ?
Always dropping knowledge ,good Shii✌️
I bet those motors vibrarate like hell. Your video must suck.
👍👍Yep... 3:23 that is how most my crashes "Usually" sound.
My wife , so why do you need this drone ???
Me , because this ones different 😂
you keep making videos ..alright?
You're a very clever and socially intelligent salesman.
That quad is sick! I want one
I still love my Acrobrat...that and my Droner are my favorites
Woah! Pure carbon frame?!?! Or carbon fiber....?
a video where I can easily fly, I mean just crash
Oh man, this hurt to watch! Great job!
*I call it good too!* 👌 I appreciate your research and development 🍻👍