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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2021
- First portion goes over how the frame goes together, the rest goes over components mounting, soldering, and Betaflight configuration. I show my PID/filter tunes for both 4s and 6s, along with the rates I use and how I setup my switches.
Blheli_M Configurator: bit.ly/3tngC6t
The Ummagawd Crew FB group: bit.ly/34zkdVG
[LINKS to build yours]
Build Bundle: bit.ly/3nUN0fx
2Fiddy Frame: bit.ly/3tkJWMm
AIO FC: bit.ly/3uqyE9t
4s battery: bit.ly/3epJWF7
6s battery: bit.ly/3uI3BFR
4s motors: bit.ly/2LgVUF6
6s motors: bit.ly/36Trhhg
Vista Kit: bit.ly/2z4VHiq
Vista alternative: bit.ly/2wh04oR
Recommended Props: bit.ly/3lSSW6b
More grip props: bit.ly/3lZAfOw - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
I got you Tommy!!!! I watch all your vids more than once brotha !!!!
I put your videos on in the background while I’m doing whatever in my house even if I’ve already seen it once or twice. You know how you watch like certain series on TV and they kind of bring you comfort so you just leave them on sometimes. Even when you go to sleep. Certain TH-camers videos are comfort TV to me. You are one of my favorites!!!!
Keep on keeping on brother 👌👌👌👌
Somebody seriously needs to do a head-to-head comparison between the 2FIDDY BNF and the ROTOR RIOT OUTLAW (LOL). I will say that my assumption based on the evident quality of the frame and components of the 2FIDDY is that it would thoroughly shame the competition's offering. I absolutely appreciate the quality of this design and your attention to detail.
Well said.
2FIDDY would win hands-down I expect.
Also consider Chris Rosser demolished Armattan for their unibody design, considering how floppy it was in the simulations. Yet RR chose to go with a unibody design...
@@HotboiEngineering I feel like Tommy's thought process was that in the worst case of legislative restrictions enforcing the 250g limit he wanted to make the best damn sub-250g 5" freestyle quad in the world, focusing on retaining as much performance as possible. I feel like Le Drib's thought process was "250g 5-inchers are lame I can't FLOW man but anyway what's the quickest we can throw one together I need new hop-ups for my scooter did you know I used to be a skater I have a girlfriend mmm tacos".
Fiddy all the way bro riot got nothing 😃👊
Mine is on order . Cant wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amazing frame. Thanks for the guide! I'm grateful not only for this particularly wonderful sub250 design, but also for the hard work and innovation that drives the market forward. Designs like this make the hobby better as a whole.
Congratulations I made it to the end. But no test🤷♂️ piece out Brotha🤙🏼 Can’t wait to get this quad 👍🏼👍🏼
Having a coffee. Enjoying your video. Feeling the need to build your quad. ☕️
Fiddy all the way 😃 thanks for sharing Tommy 👊
Nice, thorough, applicable where its at!!
That zip tie idea is genius....awesome build!
I’m mid-way through a 2400kv 5S 2Fiddy build and I’m very much looking forward to ripping it!
just scooped one of these in 6s from Defiance Rc. I'm so stoked! usually preference to build my own but the bnf looks so player.
Thank's Bro - as allways love the videos - cant wait to finish my build
Great video, small suggestion, I usually test everything before installing the cage and top plate in case anything goes wrong
Got my first twofiddy frame coming tomorrow! Can't wait
appreciate the support!
I luv it 👌🏽now I got to get my hands 🙌 on one
That vista mount is so nice
Cool , really wish my pre-order from batch 1 would show up in the UK.
The zip-tie trick with the vista is worth it in this video
At last a LOS would complete video the so much nicer, As always you’re Awesome Tommy 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Sick, I sooo want one of these. Sick Tommy.👊
Been waiting for this! 🙌 I absolutely dig mine. Unfortunately I already busted 2 motors and the iflight aio, totally MY fault though lol 🤓. Good stuff man, this makes me want to build another one! Especially now that you’ve showed us how to build it right with these pro tips
Nate ,I enjoy your videos
4s or 6s?
@@ChrisParayno definitely 6 🤙🏼
Hah! I killed 4 motors on the first 4 of 5 sessions I had with this quad. We twinsies!
Great build! Going to have to put on of these together :)
Fyi, CLI = Command Line Interface
My orders been in i cant wait for real!!
Excellent. Thank you 👍👌⚡
Nice build! 👌
Great video as always. TBH I tuned in to see that sweet new work bench, but was sad to not see that sexy Laguna Seca blue.
Good job. 😁😁👍🏻
What an awesome build, really well thought out. I'm going to have to build one of these for myself some time. Amazing job Tommy 👍
Tommy, I apologize for bein such a pain in the ass but I will still beg you to make two 65degree cam tilt pieces! However, this quad is GREAT. I bought one, CADDX Nebula Pro & 1600kv motors. First off, this quad ZIPS. On GNB 380mah batteries which bring it to 248.2g on my scale the throttle response is shocking but at full throttle it loses its oomph. Without full throttle, quad is super responsive & has massive thrust & lift. I am using the 5x3 bi-blades & honestly I hate them in this thin Colorado air. I would like to try a tri-blade setup to provide more grip in the air but honestly it has so much thrust it is super hard to glide down mountains without learning how to use only .... 10% of the throttle downslope.
Now, busting the 250g constraint using a 650mah Tattu R-Line brings the quad up to 295.2g but HOLY HELL the raw power. Full throttle rips like a comet going out to the heavens but unlike my RR Aliens & Steez, this sucker DOESN'T scream.... it is KINGFPV approved for quiet stealthy rips. No Karens necessary. Once you're outside of about 100ft it is very hard to hear the quad at all. At any reasonably high altitude you could drop right down out of the sky on a dive & scare the hell out of your wife like I do.
I give it a solid 9 out of 10. I really want to use a GoPro with it (333g with 380mah) but it is only OK with it but no room to use a 650mah with it, only a 380mah so the flight time is greatly decreased. Therefore, if you're looking to have something to rip to hell & back but not concerned with GoPro footage this is the quad for you!! If you just want something under 250g that is a hellraiser without bothering your neighbors, the Tiny Whoop draws more attention.
Highly recommended! Great job, Team Ummagawd.
Everyone having problems with F7 AIO V2 select UART 1 and serial rx UART 2 not 3 and 1 also use correct firmware and make sure each esc is up to date in BLheli!
Thanks Tommy
will a dual lens camera like the Runcam Hybrid 2 or Caddx Tarser fit in this frame?
I received a Beast F7 55A AIO V2 in my 2Fiddy Build Bundle, not sure if my issues were due to the V2 FC or perhaps simply using the 10.8.0 RC1 configurator:
- When following the 6S PID tune, heed the betaflight caution/warning for the slider positions, as I had a flyaway with my 6S 2Fiddy; default PIDs have audible oscillations but at least doesn't flyaway.
- For the board and sensor alignment, the video shows the yaw change but its not mentioned in the narration. I had to use 135 yaw (board is on 45 angle and we rotated 90 CCW to expose usb).
yo bro i got the v2 board as well and i have this problem with my motor remapping i cant get 2 motors to work, if you can do me a favor and go into betaflight into the cli and type dump and scroll up and just copy paste what you have for "resource motor 1-4" because for me it seems like E09 and E11 are not working
@@nickgrountsev2078 The correct motor mapping for the V2 beast F7 (Beast F7 55A V2 AIO (BMI270) ) is:
resource MOTOR 1 B04
resource MOTOR 2 B00
resource MOTOR 3 B05
resource MOTOR 4 B01
@@goddamnitization KING also had to turn off bidirectional d shot for it to work
@@nickgrountsev2078 I got bidirectional dshot working after updating the firmware as is done in this video
I need one 👊🏼🚀
The correct motor mapping for the V2 beast F7 (Beast F7 55A V2 AIO (BMI270) ) is:
resource MOTOR 1 B04
resource MOTOR 2 B00
resource MOTOR 3 B05
resource MOTOR 4 B01
THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!!!!
What was the final dry weight of this thing? Asking because if there's a couple grams room left, I'd just use screws to mount the Vista 😅
Love those motor wires! Gotta get myself one of these bad boys but probably gonna wait for the Fettec 20x20 AIO.
I love mine so much I neeeeds! Another Bro! Hook it up slim???? I'm running exact same spec build but I'm running trueRc antenna! I followed your tune exactly but running BlueJay 24khz and it flys perfectly on 4S 1100MAH , 4S 850MAH , Or for fast fun 5s 550MAH all GNB packs. Now I'm wanting to build the 6s just because I love the blinged out motors! And it flys so dam good!
I wish I had thought to turn the AIO 90 degrees... as it is, I've been removing the standoff every time I plug it in, so to avoid stripping them out I replaced those two aluminum screws with titanium ones. 🤷♂️
Hey, sorry to ask and understand theres a wait in line. Got my preorder before april and would like to know if vista's are being shipped for your bnf
Just finished the entire build, but for some reason ESC 1 & 3 are not working 😢
I can only get Motor 1 & 4 to spin.
Edit: Found out what what wrong! Had something to do with the motor remapping, I copied the CLI command from this video and that somehow made BlHeli not pick up on two ESCs. I reset the config and was able to all ESCs!!
In Betaflight 4.3 and above, just use the graphical interface the remap motors.
I was already about to pick everything apart, order a new board, desolder and resolder everthing, etc., so glad I was able to solve it.
Works perfectly now!!
Mine has been on pre-order for months, will I be able to have it soon?
Cooked 2 f7 boards because the stacks to low. The soft mounts compress on hard landings and it meets the metal insert for thre arm and pop f.c. gone and it always frys a batt and pops 2 esc leads off the esc pads. Raise your stack by 5mm. Prevent 90$ boards going proof.
H7 boards***
My analog build is a bit front heavy giving me someom wobbles when I chop the throttle. I need to play with my battery placement. Aside from that it flies so dang good.
Anyone tried building with the new o3 camera plates? Considering a build but conscious of vibrations to o3 cam. Other manufacturers supplying silicone fittings etc.
Hey Tommy, newb question here. I like the frame for what it is and dont really care about the 250g limit as I would like to slap on a full sized gopro periodically. Will this setup be powerful enough to lift one and still freestyle on a 4s build? Should I think of larger motors/esc? Sorry if you already answered this question as this is new territory for me. Thanks
air mode on arm switch nice.. is the arm a three way switch? got to be right?
So I’m new to this FPV and this is the Bundle I want to purchase, as I understand if I want to go digital I will need to purchase the DJI goggles but what radio should I buy ? Can I use the TBS radio and add the TBS receiver and still be on the 250g?
where did you get those Zip Ties? I cant find any that fit in the vista holes. a link would be awesome
is there a known issue with the all-in-one ESC & FC where it does not connect with the DJI controller? I have set mine up exactly like yours and cant get the controller to connect? I've made sure all the dji software is up to date
What’s up brother had a question for you about the frame.
Would a 20x20 stack fit or dose it have to be a AIO other question would be can I use like a regular 1500 4s battery on there if I don’t care much for the sub250? Thank you so much for your content man have learned a lot.
a stack will fit if you use taller standoffs and flip the bottom/mid X plates. And yea sure, I've flown with a big battery for fun to get the extra long slight times. But I definitely wouldn't freestyle with it as things will def break at that AUW
I hope u keep selling till july i hope to buy one fir my bday
Beware...the iFlight Beast available now seems to be the V2 which no longer has an MPU6000 but instead a BMI270 gyro.
I'm trying to build with the longer frame stand offs for a 20x20 stack but the I clouded ones seem to make the gap too big for the camera holder (fpv camera) has anyone else managed to build using the longer included stand offs and a 20x20 stack?
I built this with the iFlight Beast 55A AIO V2, thinking I had the right board. But the V2 board has a slower gyro, and runs at 3.2kHz instead of 8kHz. Will your recommended tune work with this board? The sliders seem not to match, and if I type in the raw numbers, the quad get’s twitchy. Should I change FC to your recommended version?
Shoot an email over to support@ummagawd.com and we’ll send you a tune for the v2 FC.
🤩🤙
Any way to squeeze a fatty air unit in the frame dont have a vista on hand
So i got my frame kit yesterday and started building it today. The only problem that I have is that all the standoffs are the same size. I didn't get any short ones. If I try to use the standoffs that came in the kit it makes the top plate too far away from the bottom plate and I cant install the camera mount. It also makes the rear standoff too short. I don't think that I got a kit with all the right parts or at least some missing.
I also didn't get any ummagrip. I guess that I got an incomplete kit. I paused the video at the 1:37 mark to see what is supposed to be in the kit and I didn't get the short standoffs or the ummagrip. That sucks!!!!
I have exactly the same issue I have tried to mount a 20x20 stack using the longer standoffs and now I can't get the camera to fit
This build video notes the motors are 4S. However, the tuning notes says its 6S. Is the tune the same for 4S?
Ok so my question should have been should I set Sbus baud fast if I’m using Crossfire?
Is there a way to do that ?
I know I probably sound dumb !!!! Lol
Hey where is the black cloth tape on the arms ;-) ... NICE VIDEO!
👍👍
Is there any way to get the props out of view on the 2fiddy
Yeeet
Wil the shark byte 500mw 20x20 vtx work on this frame?
I have been looking to put BlheliM 16.9 on my whoops which are all at 16.73 Can I change them
You showed resourcing motors but you didn't say to rotate gyro 90 degrees on yaw axis
Any betaflight preset for the 4inch version? Running 1804 2450kv on 6s and gemfan 4023.
Would the 4” use same tune?
Seems to be a problem with the H7 Beast v1 not allowing bi-direction with jazz-m after 4.2.6 ??
I’m afraid I can’t help ya there, I use the f7 (mainly because BF code hasn’t made use of the extra power H7 has to warrant the price).
I mounted my h7 beast flight controller that way (minus the 45 angle rotation) and some of the components touched the screw below it which ended up frying it :( Better to use use higher stand off imo.
So the camera mount is useless with the tall standoffs?
JB built his with the x plate on the bottom and the complained that you can’t change a broken arm with out taking the motors off and AIO as well, did I build mine wrong with the x plate In the middle under the AIO? When I break an arm I just rem two bolts and I’m good to go🤔
No, JB built HIS wrong. Lol well not wrong, just not the suggested way. It was designed to be built the way you (and the rest of us) did. This lowers the mass of the battery closer to center and makes swapping arms super easy.
@@ummagawdFPV thank you! 🤣 I love mine because it’s so easy to fix👍🏼🤩
How much does it weigh with 4s?
What's the code to enter for sbus fast set on
Are most doing this as a 4s build?
What 4s pack do you recommend? And how does the flight time compare to 6s
I'm running GNB 4S 1100MAH & GNB 4S 850MAH on the 2400KV cruising you can get 8 to 10 minutes! Hard on the sticks balls to the wall 4 to 5 minutes. And if you really want to have some fun run a GNB 5s 550MAH on it running Tracer! Or ExspressLRS on 500hz packet rate. By the time you land your sweating!
@@allennickles3970 Long range cruising it good on the 2fiddy?
@@Louishouiller Actually yes both the 4 & 6s motors are very efficient. I would imagine a 18650 4s pack you probably get close to 20 or more minutes out of it just cruising..And this quad flys just like a heavy 5 inch quad only more efficient. If you build to the recommended specs? And tune? You will be hard pressed to find anything that flys better! And that's coming from someone that has built hundreds of quads all sizes!😀
HELP: Hey I'm running into that when I open BL Heli it only reads that I have ESC 2 and 4 even after trying a new beast flight controller
For anyone who has issues with this and the V2 FC, I had to map the motors to different numbers than above. Motor 1: B04, Motor 2: B00, Motor 3: B05, Motor 4: B01 also I had to reverse 1,2, & 4 in BL Heli
ETA on Fettec AIO by chance?
Hi all, I am just setting up my 2Fiddy with the Beast F7 FC and went to make sure the PID loop frequency was at 8k, but for some reason it is showing as 3,2khz along with the gyro update frequency showing the same. Does anyone have any idea why? Thanks
iFlight changed the gyro on V2 (and didn't do the best job of explaining that to everyone). The new gyro isn't as good as the MPU6000 unfortunately, hence the lower rate and less aggressive PID tune.
Having issues...Gyro & PID loop freq only goes up to 3.2 khz, and motors 1 & 3 quit working after remapping. Also, can't flash new fc firmware because it keeps attempting to go into bootloader.
Email support@ummagawd.com , sounds like you got a v1.5 or 2 FC (iFlight changed the gyro and mapping on these without telling us)
yo bro i have the same problem can u tell me how u fixed motors 1 and 3 not spinning thx
No threadlock?
Am I missing something here? There is no receiver installed?
It has been almost a month. Still waiting :(
Ohhhhh I was about to order 😬
My arms came with the holes a little too small, as I tried to screw them together in the first step, the m2 bolts striped and the driver is spinning freely. The screws shouldn't be so light that they strip during assembly
I finally finished the build. Except for the initial problems with the screws, the frame is really good. I switched the dji system with a tbs sixty9. The quad is even lighter and flies amazing.
I realize i'm replying to a year old comment, but I actually had the same issue with the holes in the arms and "x" brace being too small. Luckily I managed to drive the screws through without stripping, but a bit concerning that a year later I have had the same issue. (I just received my frame 12/22/22) This is with the newer arms also, with the alternate motor mounting holes. Still waiting on the rest of my components so hopefully the rest of the build goes smoothly.
2nd
I pre ordered, I STILL dont have my frame !"
This frame while nice in many ways misses the mark badly in others. The most egregious errors in this frames design are that the camera cage locks the top plate on in a way that requires disassembly of the camera cage to remove the top plate. In addition the screws it comes with are both too short, aluminum and a bad fit resulting in easily stripping out or unplanned disassembly of your quadcopter in a crash.
First good crash ripped my top plate off, luckily my electronics were fine and I replaced the screws with more appropriate titanium screws.
New kits have upgraded screws. And next batch will all be TI screws!
@@ktranization is the camera cage being adjusted too? That is a more egregious flaw in my book, took a decent amount of effort with a diamond file to fix.
@@PineyJustice I may be wrong, but we had to lock it in b/c of frame resonance. We REALLY didn't want to add a cross brace so had to find another solution with the design.
After I enable rpm filter 2 motors are not working :(
I have flashed the blheli m 16.9 firmware
@@hsy541 There is a problem with RPM filtering a bi-directional DSHOT with the iFlight Beast H7 (not the F7 version) www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?3853963-iFlight-Beast-H7-issue-with-bi-directional-DSHOT
Who called you on 15:47? )))
tidy build,
people crazy if they think everyone is gonna fly under 250g one day
ordered a bnf in february and still hasnt arrived.. should i be nervous??.. nah i trust Tommy here.. !
At the 22:10 minute in your video you instructed us to turn on Sbus baud fast.
Instructions come up on the screen saying to do this in your goggles????
Am I the only one who cant get the screws thru the carbon holes? what the hell man
I have the H7 aio and the preload firmware is betaflight 4.3, do I need to downgrade to 4.2? I don't see any stable release of 4.3 yet
flash to 4.2 solves the problem
Love the frame but the aluminum hardware is absolutely trash. The first step to building this frame is toss the aluminum hardware in the trashcan ! LOL!!!
I heard once ur quad weighs less than 250 u get free tampons sent through the mail .
way to many beta soy latte 250 fear the ffa vids of late. Break out some real quads in videos like the remix v2 etc.