When Should You Replace Your Toyota And Lexus Timing Chain?
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- The question of when to replace Toyota and Lexus timing chains is a question I get asked all the time.
In this video I'll share with you the exact criteria of when to consider replacing it and why. We have a 2010 Toyota RAV4 that is getting it's timing chain replaced and it does have one that requires replacement.
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Remember folks, Amd doesn't have time to answer your questions. I was at his shop for service on Monday and he was beyond swamped, I drove 150 miles to get there and I'll never take my 2 Lexus's to anyone else. I pity anyone else who doesn't live close to him. His knowledge and trustworthiness is 2nd to none.I'm taking my GS 350 F-Sport back there in May and I'm hoping he'll have time to do a video on it. Amd & his wife who runs the business end are the nicest people you could ever meet! It's a true blessing to have him especially when you've been burned by the dealership experience as I have.
Very good point! You are soo fortunate that you live relatively close to the shop 👍
Had me on the first sentence, ngl.
You are indeed extremely fortunate to have Mr AMD work on your vehicles.
Why don't you learn to fix your own cars....
And we need him in the UK! We're stuck with dealers which are awful usually. Taking the trouble to learn as much as possible to DIY as necessary
Imagine if every mechanic was a class-act of knowledge like this man
Yes, unfortunately most mechanics are the opposite.
@@dekkerlundquist5938 rubbish I’ve been in the trade 40 years and seen very few mechanics that rip people off. The problem is the public don’t trust them.
@doneB830 Been a novice mechanic for almost a year now and I've already helped loads of people in my own free time outside of work that have been getting rather ripped off by mechanics and crash repairers. There is a lot of corrupt mechanics out there unfortunately so its really no surprise us mechanics have a bad rep.
I still have a 2003 Toyota 4-Runner with the 4.0L V-6 with 586k on it, no internal engine parts have been replaced, Toyota quality!
Nice! Congrats.
I just hit 188K on my 2011 Highlander 3.5L V6.
Most original parts
Sweet. I have an 08 4runner with 285k. Looking forward to may more miles!
A timing chain will outlast your cars once it’s serviced on time and driven properly.
I have a 2002 Toyota Sienna LE 3.0L V6 with 186K on it. Unfortunately, it has been getting costly repairs recently due to the Check Engine light not going away. I guess 20 years is still not too bad.
Wow. I assume standard transmission?
I live about 10 minutes from his shop. I literally would never go anywhere else. He's the best.
Where is his shop? I would like to go there. I m in Tampa florida
This guy makes things so easy to understand
@@williamlocascio8946 what is wrong with earning money. You don't have to contribute.
So glad that manufactures went back to chain instead of belts. Smartest move in recent years
Agreed with what AMD said. Original owner here of a 2006 Tacoma 4x4 with the 4.0 V6 pushing 400K miles and never had issues with the timing chain or really anything else associated with this legendary engine. Have always changed the oil every 5K miles these last 16 years.
Glad to hear that, my 2011 Taco with the 4.0 just rolled over 200k. Nothing done to it but routine maintenance. Heck, it's just getting broken in good!😊
2010 v6 Tacoma 300,000 miles. Just oil change every 4000 minutes. And replaced one bad fuel injector.
The 4.0L is good. You got to keep up with oil changes. That is key on the 1GR
Did you ever replace the transmission fluid?
@@jaycarl1562drain and fill. Never flush for an automatic.
Every video is made with high standard. Having you AMD, as technician, at least on TH-cam, makes owning cars more enjoyable.
I bought my Lexus based on his recommendations and knowledge of these cars. I've never owned a foreign car and didn't want to buy one without some intense knowledge. I'm retired andvwill not be spending my retirement money on car repairs!!!!
@@FORTHEZEEMAN I found that American cars are built with built in obsolescence. Foreign cars are not.
@@dhowar Absolutely!
@@dhowar .
No really.
Mitsubishi, Nissan, KIA , VW, Audi, BMW.
They are throwaway cars. They get to 100 k miles then they crap out.
Car Care Nut - an excellent teacher. And a servant of the Almighty. Much thanks.
My Aunt’s 2002 Lexus 330 is at over 600K miles and counting.. that damn car refuses to die, it’s almost a frigging tank.
Top notch guy. Honest, intelligent and friendly. Everyone needs a car care nut in there town. Great job!! I noticed you helping another mechanic on TH-cam by donating money. How nice.
their town
Unlike timing belts, timing chains are always getting lubricated with the engine oil, so that makes perfect sense why they can last for the life of the engine. Probably changing the oil at regular intervals plays a big part of it too.
True...my buddy is a parts manager at a Honda dealership.. people that run petroleum and do maximum mileage as recommended by the manufacturer replace the timing chain at 120 k to 150 k....My 04 Accord had 285,000 miles and the guides had zero wear..I ran synthetic and changed it between 4 and 5 k miles intervals..
@@mikeschlup5279 The CCN has done videos about the difference in wear - particularly in cylinders - from doing 10K mile intervals rather than 5K. Our 2014 Prius reminds us to change every 5K but the manual says 10K. I was about to change to the manual's recommendation when CCN wised me up. At 176K on the vehicle with negligible loss of oil between changes I have no doubt he saved me from a world of regret.
@@flagmichael CCN ?
@@mikeschlup5279 Car Care Nut
That’s what they said at the VW dealership as well, after listening to my rattling chain in a two year old car. Bottom line, you can lubricate a crappy chain and it will still break. Glad to see Toyota doesn’t comprimise quality for short term profit
This man is as good as gold when searching for a trusting mechanic! He definitely knows his stuff!
I owned my 2005 Camry LE 2.4 (new) for 15 years. I sold it with 218,000 miles. The engine ran like new. Of course, I took care of it. That's all it took!
I’ve learned so much from watching this channel. The best channel on Toyotas on TH-cam
I SO WISH I lived closer to him. He is the most trusted mechanic I have ever listened to and he’s so incredibly knowledgeable. Toyota = this man is a Jedi Master of your product! As always, WELL DONE SIR! 👏👏
Another great video. I don't use the word great often, but truly, the service you provide and the information you detail is exactly what a car owner, specially, a Toyota car/truck owner needs to know. Thank you, be safe, and bless you and your family this Holiday season.
Yeah he may be a good technician I'm not going to argue about that but if you can't answer a couple of questions every now and then don't make videos cuz he seems to have a lot of time for that
@Doberman guy Hi there. He has responded or replied previously; however, I think he may be more busier than before with his shop and making sure that succeeds. I don't think he thinks any less of us or takes us for granted. Good luck...perhaps post a question to AMD and his followers to see if you may be able to get a response to your question.
@@dobermanguy9437are you very hard to please. He posts the world's best videos. you can pay an hourly rate to a mechanic to answer questions or just do a Google search on forums
I had a rattle in my Corolla, took it to two shops, they automatically said, "timing chain." It was a $1,500 job. Turns out, it wasn't the chain at ALL that was rattling. It was the serpentine belt tensioner. Those timing chains do last the life of the car if you change your oil regularly and if you have a rattle, the last thing you should suspect is the timing chain. That was an expensive lesson for me.
The rattle here was from the cam phaser. There’s two of them: an exhaust and an intake.
IT'S EXTREMELY HARD TO FIND A HONEST MECHANIC
TIMING CHAIN S, DO NOT MAKE NOISE
@@craigbosko2229 That is the truth. I have anxiety when going to a new mechanic. Every time I go to get an alignment, they tell me new struts and my car drives fine, it's just an old car.
@@craigbosko2229Also difficult to find a “good” mechanic. Most aren’t dishonest. Rather, they guess at what they think is wrong and begin to “swap parts” on your dollar. Many mechanics don’t have either the experience or knowledge to correctly diagnose and then repair the problem.
Good to hear that some companies are going back to metal timing chains. They were always made out of metal and you NEVER had to worry about changing them.
You have convinced me to do oil changes every 8000km or 6 months, whichever comes first for both my cars. My new '22 Corolla will get the best treatment possible and my wife's '17 Prius is going to start getting the same treatment (it previously was following Toyota's schedule which is pretty much double that duration). While the Prius seems to be running totally fine, and I see no evidence of gunk building up when looking inside the oil fill cap on the valve cover, I feel more comfortable just changing the oil more frequently if that means the difference between an engine needing major surgery or not at all. It just makes sense. Oil can never be too clean but it sure can be broken down and/or contaminated. Thanks for another great video.
Thanks for all you do. You have lots of grateful people like me that love your videos and your dedication to teaching and performing quality work.
There are a lot of things I would never known without him sharing his experience.
I just recently been watching your videos and I am so impressed it's unbelievable how you describe and explain everything. Wish I lived closer you'd work on any vehicle that I have keep up the good work
I really appreciate your expertise and your channel. I love my 2006 4 cyl Tacoma, 250 k miles with no issues! Your information and love for what you are doing is awesome. Thanks and hope you and your family have a very merry Christmas!
Nice have 2006 with 150k my only problem has been the paint on top 👏👍
Last year when I bought my 2010 Rav4 I went looking for a 4 cylinder but found
a 6 cylinder instead and more and more I am glad it worked out that way. 😎
3.5L FTW!!!
I've heard those things haul ass for what they are. Good find.
@@darthdarthbinkss
15.4 in the 1/4 mile and great mpg
@@darthdarthbinkss My first car was a VW Beetle that had 60hp on
a good day, and I drove it 21 years. Next was a '86 Accord with about
110 hp and then a 1997 Accord with about 120 hp. This thing has
268 hp and it is a rocket-ship to me. When I put my foot into it I can
almost watch the gas gauge drop. So far it has been great and I hope it
takes me the rest of my driving life. Right now I am at about 77k on the
odometer. 😎
im not as into toyota as many others but i thought the 4 cyl were chains and the 6 cyl were belts, like my 3.0 highlander. or am i thinking of hondas?
No questions ,just want to thank you for such excellent advice. I enjoy watching the videos.
I’m so glad you made this video. That’s the question I’ve been wanting to ask. My wife’s Lexus has 215,000 miles.
WOW.... I'm a huge Toyota/Lexus Fan/Owner. Me and a couple of friends were just discussing this very topic. So glad that you clarified this. Pretty much what my Lexus dealership said when I called them.
Thank you so much for this information!
I was always wondered about the timing chains on Toyota’s. The reliability can’t be beat.
Thank you Armondo for explaining the wear of a Toyota timing chain to us. There were several things in this video that I didn't know.
Who is Armondo? The host's name is Ahmed and his TH-cam nickname is AMD.
AMD it’s so great to see your shop looking so good and presumably doing well! Your videos and instructions are informative and valuable. I have watched most of your videos, there a few I still haven’t but I wondered if you have ever addressed the electric power steering motor dampener gear? I hadn’t heard much about it until recently, is this a problem you see often? Sorry to be a little off topic but almost everything Toyota makes, car and small suv wise, has electric power steering, I’d love to see a video of you addressing this concern. As always thank you for all your wisdom and shared experience. Frank
"if you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" - Einstein. You, sir, make it very simple and easy to understand for a lug nut like me. Hat's off!
Man! You read my mind!!!! Thank you so much for your knowledge. Tundra for life
He is a thorough, careful, and thoughtful mechanic. He does not cut corners to screw over the customer. Wish he was in Texas, so you folks in the Chicago area are lucky as He!!. Anyone close to Chicago should seek out The Car Care Nut and let him and his team services or repair your vehicle.
Thanks for this video…we have two of these engines in our Sienna and RAV4 so glad to hear, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”
I have been viewing this video from the beginning to the end and God bless you all if you can find a competent and honest mechanic
I have seen a Ford 4.6 three valve and a 5.3 three valve engine lose the plastic part of the timing chain guide that got caught under the chain and went around the cam phaser and caused the engine to jump one degree in timing. I'm really happy I switched to a Toyota! Your channel has been a huge help!
A well maintained Ford can last. I've had several ford's well over 200k miles when I sold it running perfect. I've never had a major issue with a Ford.. and Hondas.. Hondas are my favorite . They generally last just as long as a toyota. Mine do anyways.
@@richsweeney1115 exactly, this guy beats on other cars so much and his viewers don't know any better. He refuses to understand that for one, people who buy german cars are often predisposed to lack of maintenance and abusing/driving their cars hard. Most people that drive Toyotas care about their cars.
In this video, he mentions Toyota quality, but the majority of the 2AR-FE engines as shown here DO have the cold start up rattle. So does that mean their timing chains are probably also burned up/overheated like the one here? I owned a 2AR-FE from when it was brand new and changed my oil at 5k and by 60k, I too had the cold start rattle. I had to sell the car at 70k for other reasons but my point is, things aren't as great or bulletproof as this guy portrays in every video he puts out.
I still respect his work quality and honesty/integrity but he blindly puts all his faith in Toyota land lol
@@awaara24 I mean, I do like toyotas, Hondas are just my fave, German cars are plastic crap
@@richsweeney1115 Fords last as long as they don't have cam phasers. Fords biggest problem is the cam phasers. It doesn't matter how often you do your oil changes, you will still have problems with phasers. My 2007 Lincoln Town Car made it 465,000 miles without any major problems and it still ran as good as it did with 52,000 miles on it when I bought over seven years ago. I agree, if you maintain your vehicle from the start. It will last a long time without any issues. However, General Motors has many issues with their engines and electrical switches because China makes 90% of engine parts, transmission parts, and electrical parts. The only problem I heard with Hondas was the Honda Odyssey had weak transmissions. That's the only complaint I heard about Hondas.
@@merrillschaps2325 oh God no, I didn't mean chevys. I meant older ford, h
Honda, toyota, acura, lexus..older volvo..and some subarus..not gm or dodge or fiat..ect..lol
One of the biggest mistakes that I see when people (for whatever reason) replace the timing chain is that they don’t put any Oil on the chain during installation which is a huge disservice to the engine and the owner who just paid for a replacement service. Oil takes some time to reach the chain during initial startup after installation and a lot of damage can be done in just the first minute or two after starting. Mechanics really should know that but don’t seem to care.
Thanks for the reminder. I'm doing one this weekend, and for sure won't forget now.
Bravo! You Sir(And Toyota!) have sold many cars by reaffirming my faith in YOU! A two pronged approach. And very effective!
I just bought an 09 Lexus es350 two weeks ago n and this is the only channel I’ve watched for the last month
I really appreciate your informative video, my 2014 RAV4 has the famous start-up rattle, I knew that vvti gear needs to be replaced but I wasn't sure about the chain, by the aid of your channel I realized that I have to replace the chain, so I did all the thing DIY, and only paid for the parts!😊
how long did it take to do the job and where did you get your parts?
Followed your advice. Broke, in the new Tacoma gently and changed oil at 1,000 miles. No metal filings. Yea!
I did the same thing for my 22 and I had metal in there.every engine does no matter the manufacturer. It was mostly aluminum.
I remember my first oil change on my Tacoma at 1,500 miles and needing to borrow an oil filter wrench from my neighbor because it was on so tight, thinking I would never get it removed.
@Kar Kule I looked very closely. If it is in there it is microscopic.
@@karkule5919 I was expecting metal filings based on what others have reported.
@@02markcalthe dealership has a socket for the filters to tighten them way too hard. us normal folk just spin them by hand so loosening is always a pain
I have learned all about my 2.5 ar fe cold start engine rattle, chain, guides and tensioner. Thanks !
Your videos reinforce why I stay with Toyota products. We are enjoying of current 2016 Rav4. Easy to get in & out of. Reliability has always be outstanding on all our Toyotas . Thanks for your continued videos. Cheers 👍😎🇨🇦
I hope mechanics are watching these videos. Nothing wrong in brushing up on knowledge which will make them better mechanics
My dad still has a Toyota Carina. We actualy recently finished restoring it together. Anyway, a couple of years ago, our timing belt (on a 4A-FE engine) outlasted the timing pulley. Literally, the spokes broke, and the pulley just yeeted itself on the highway. The most amazing thing is, my dad replaced the pulley, and the engine ran without prolems. He didn't time it right, so for a couple of more years we ran this engine around 15 to 20 degrees off timing. We.. only recently found that out to diagnose an iddle stutter... lol
My favorite Toyota mechanic, bar none. It's too bad I'm too far away in NY for him to service my car. I've been lucky. So far I've been able to fix any problems with my Toyota. Best of luck to you AMD and have a happy Christmas with your family.
This guy is such a good teacher, explainer. Wish he was available to be my mechanic.
I bought an '07 Lexus GS350 a couple of years ago that had previously had VVT actuators replaced under recall/TSB/whatever around 70k miles... I bought the car for cheap due to a CEL for an exhaust cam timing issue due to the timing chain being stretched. I replaced the chain and it's been good to go.
Toyota rubber timing belts were also well made. By the late 90s to early 2000s Ive seen them go over 250,000 miles with no issues. Their waterpumps tend to last just as long.
I've one in my 99 camry with a little over 90,000 miles on it. It's a 4 cylinder, not driving it abusive I think helps too. It's all OEM replacement parts too. The test continues.
I purchased a 2001 Camry 4 cylinder in august of 2020 with 35k miles. Really debating on changing the belt due to its age. CarFax doesn’t show it being changed. Thoughts? Currently has 40k miles.
@John Salov I would leave it. Unless your going on a very long trip then you can change it for assurance if you want. The worst it will do is strand you if it breaks, it will not damage the engine.
@@carguy4243 thank you. Learn a lot from your channel. And that this engine is a non interference engine. It’s my grandma beater car. They make fun of me, but when my family needs to use my car. It all of a sudden is a great car.
I have a 98 Camry, the original timing belt Toyota started showing wear after 100k miles so I was recommended to replace it. I changed it with Gates Brand timing belt and water pump kit, 50k miles still looks like new. Gates Brand belts and hoses are top quality
Great video. Thanks for the short length. I love toyota and respect your knowledge. Shorter videos are easier to digest. Thanks.
He's a great videos and when I watch them life is good! Keep up the great work
Wow, that's great to know. I just bought a 2013 Lexus rx350 awd with 105k on it. I think up to 2015, they are the nicest rx350. I am planning to keep it until the wheels fall off.
This is good to know. I have a 1.8L VVT-i (1ZZ-FE) in a '04 Pontiac Vibe and was wondering how long the chain should last. Engine has 260k+ miles on it and has been run on Amsoil 5w-30 full synthetic since about 50K mi. Oil and ATF changed every 10K mi. No unusual noises, just runs. Original water pump, alternator, starter, 32.5 mpg consistently.
Thanks for ending my confusion over this timing chain thing. Another reason to own a Toyota.
Excellent content and very informative as I am a service manager at a Toyota dealership and have now been in the trade at Toyota for 35 years. Keep up the great content
AMD, This RAV4's Pyrite Mica paint is excellent in the Salt Belt for masking winter spray it also matches the internal engine components 😉
Thank you Sir! Your humility and expertise are very engaging. I have been a mechanic for over 40 years and I too, keep my life simple by being honest. Honesty is a sure fire way to be a success. People know the instant someone is lying to them and I am amazed at the way most people just accept being lied to. I would wish you every success! You and The Car Wizard are great Americans!
The car wizard recommend Honda's with cvts, that's when I stopped listening to him
Timing chains and sprockets are standardized and are made by the same company. The company that makes them makes several different sizes and the car companies design their engines around those sizes. (keeps the costs down) I have a relative who works in the foundry that makes them for most of the car companies. Neglecting oil changes causes the chains to wear. The connecting pins wear and the chains get longer.
TY AMD, a very informative video totally enjoyed your clear precise information, as always your on the money with Toyota timing chains made to perfection.
Keep Safe Keep Strong 🦘🦘🦘🦘🎄🎄🎅🤶🎄🎄
So very good to get an explanation as good as yours
More maintenance vids like this please !!!!!!
When you get the new chain, it would be nice to compare the new and old ones: how much 'stretch' (wear) has occurred?
As always very informative and helpful advice, thankyou.
This man can actually open shops nationwide under his control and make millions!!
Your videos are true testimonials to Toyota quality - with visual proof backing up your statements!
Kudos to you for providing content that is entertaining and informative, and well worth watching.
(In fact, I often go back and review some of your older vids - quality stuff stays good a long time! Many "Thanks".)
If Toyota has such high quality, why do their guides seem to break more often than other car manufacturers?
Thanks again AMD. In 2008, when I was in the market for a Camry XLE, I was looking for the 4 cylinder in white. But the dealership only had the 3.5L V6 version. I walked out. Then, they called me later in the day and offered the V6 for the price of the 4 cylinder. I grabbed it. It was a different time. Now my ‘08 Camry is almost 15 years old with 127K miles on it. Still looks new and runs decent. Always garaged and in covered parking deck. I will keep this car for as long as I can. Hopefully, until I retire. In 6 years.
You'll get tired of looking at it before it's worn out.
The 3.5 V6 is a pretty efficient engine. A friend of ours owns a Toyota Avalon with that V6 and he has seen 35 mpg from that engine. It sounds astonishing, but it just goes to show those engines are efficient.
I had an 07 with the V6. You saved yourself from misery from that garbage 2.4L AZ 4 cylinder Burns oil like there's no tomorrow and almost ruined Toyota's reputation. The later 2.5 AR, four cylinder was much better. The GR V6 is an amazing Motor that has a long life.
@@peted5217 Hahaha! I’ll never get tired of looking at it. Seriously, it still looks new.
@@matthewmiller2268 Thank you. Good to know.
This guy deserves more subs straight up.
I always learn something new from your videos. Thank You
I wish I had someone like him in my town I don,t trust my dealer
Always appreciate the information I receive watching your channel. Quick question, I’m a former Chevrolet guy. When replacing the timing chain on a Chevy, the gear set is usually changed as well. I see that you recommended changing all of the guides on the Toyota if you’re replacing the timing chain. Would it be recommended to change the sprockets as well? And, if not, why not?
Depends on why chain's being replaced. Save abuse , should last life of vehicle by design. It's why they cost a little more.
Correct, you should never change a chain without also changing the sprockets, ask anyone with a motorcycle.
Thank you so much for your extremely informative videos. They are very useful. Kind regards!
I like your style. Straight talk and to the point. Thanks
Timely topic, since the Car Wizard just yesterday insisted you have to examine and maybe replace the timing chain after 100,000 miles, maybe at 150K at the latest. But he didn't think to add, "except if it's a Toyota."
My thought is when you have to replace the gasket for the timing cover to fix an oil leak, that's when you inspect everything.
watched the same video! LOL
You can measure the chain links/pins to check for wear. This is common in the motorcycle world. I imagine service manuals/data sources would have specs for this.
I was thinking the same thing as I had just watched that video too. I like to learn from Car Wizard for the more "general" things but always come to TCCN for the Toyota-specifics.
@@connor3288 A peek at the tensioner will do that but the front cover has to be off to get to it.
@@flagmichael The valve cover being off will let you see the chain on Ohc/dohc engines
One thing that happened with my 2003 Toyota Camry recently(300,000) mile/was that I was driving as I do for my job. I parked in a Parking garage, did a delivery and when I went to start up my car, it seemed like All of a sudden it was running rough…so I took it home, took the cover off and noticed that the timing marks weren’t aligned up, so I figured the timing tensioner got stuck or even went bad and made it lose timing. However, after buying a timing chain kit, and removing the oil pan, to my surprise I saw bits of what seemed like a plastic-like gear all chopped up and disintegrated into my engine oil. Found out It was the Nylon gear for the balance shaft assembly that was the culprit. So, I bought a replacement, replaced the chain assembly, the balance shafts, the tensioner, and the VVT-I assembly. Car works like brand new! Funny, thing is how this was the One time I wanted to go a little bit over my oil change interval. But yea, Camry has 335,000 miles on it, runs great. Also as per maintenance for such a high mileage vehicle, I had the transmission recently repaired after it failed, but that was only because going over the repair documentation, the Camry Developed the problem Strictly after having a transmission flush service done to the vehicle. All is well, curious how many more miles I will get out of her. Maybe I will hit 500,000…who knows! I’m pretty thankful.
Amd recommends for the older t4 transmission fluid. Do a drain and fill one time only every 3 years or 30000 miles. No flushes. Use only Toyota fluids. Change the coolant every 3 years or 30000miles. The new Toyotas drain and fill one time every 6 years or 60000 miles. The pink coolant change every 5 years or 50000 miles. Oil never go past 5k mile changes. All the best
Thank you. Always clear and concise and to the point. Sometimes a little quiet, though. Thank you.
As usual clear explanation of the subject. Great mechanic
Chains are a big bonus over belts. Which reminds me. That darn Subaru Forester of mine is going to need a belt soon.
It's a big belt. Boxer engine, good luck.
I had this argument with an Actual Toyota Tech the other day as I want to replace the Timing Chain on our 2014 4Runner. We lost a very expensive motor in an Audi due to the guides going bad not the chain itself. I would rather spend a few K on a new Chain and Guides then more on a new crate engine.
You will be wasting your money. Audi's are notorious for chains issues. The 4.0 L Toyota engine is bulletproof
Go to 8:07 and then reconsider. If there is currently nothing wrong with your 4runner, it’s a huge waste of time/money.
@@gianfrancoa The early 4.0L engines on the Tacoma (2005-2006) had head gasket problems till a few years later they redesigned the head gasket to solve those blown head gaskets, so not everyone was bulletproof but most were.
The 1GR-FE V6 in your 2014 is famous for lasting 500,000 - 1,000,000 miles without any internally lubricated parts wearing out, which includes the timing chain mechanism
Always great stuff, Sir!
Thank you for the insight on timing chains. One less thing to worry about - thank you Lexus/Toyota !!
91,000 views and only 6k likes? Who out there is too lazy to click on the like button. This free content is gold. Show some appreciation.
You tube probably finagles the numbers to save money.
I wonder if the 10k oil change intervals play a role here. I've never EVER come across timing chain issues on Toyotas that have been serviced every 5k, but it seems to happen here and there with 10k intervals.
Yeah I feel like 10k service intervals is a bit too long. Maybe 7k max but that’s it.
He said it over heated, that’s why he changed it.
I have not seen any youtube car repair video where all the painted surfaces that might be leaned on are covered to protect them. Shows he cares about his customers.
When I see that you are extremely good at what you, I really get worried every time I deliver my RAV4 to my local Toyota dealer for a service..I DONT THINK THEY CARE LIKE YOU DO ;-(.
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Our 2016 Sequoia with the 5.7 had the dreaded rattle on very cold start up, like 25 degrees F or lower due to a sticky timing chain tensioner (seems to be common on the 5.7 based on other videos on YT and tundra forums). Always did the oil chain on time with the dealer every 5k. Started doing this at 65k, now has 116k on it. Only does this on very cold MN mornings. Once the engine warms up the rattle goes away. Going to try running some marvel mystery oil thru it 500 miles before the next few oil changes and see what happens.
I have the same issue just started on my 2012, 5.7 Tundra at 135k. Did the Marvel Mystery oil help?
@@spookerr yes, it definitely helped. It still does it on very very cold MN winter mornings with worn dirty oil just before next change, but quiets down in a few minutes after warmup. Never hear it from spring and all summer long. I may do another round just as basic maintenance and see if that gets rid of it completely this winter. We now have 125k on it. No code for any timing issues or stretched timing chain or anything.
Great video amd other mechanics said timing chain is lifetime if you change your oil it's good they could be right
...keeping in mind the CCN's frequent admonition to change at 5K mile intervals, not 10K.
Thank you Ahmed on your expert technical advice on Toyota Timing Chains. 👌🏽💫
Why Would They ?
First time I’ve heard you don’t have to replace your timing chain for mileage alone. You saved me at least $1,300. My 2008 Lexus RX350 with 133k miles runs perfectly. My son is a master mechanic and feels the suv is in great condition. We have since done some little things like spark plugs (painful but done), gaskets, oil, air/cabin filters and tires. Otherwise, it’s getting over 21 mpg and it appears to be running great. Appreciate your quality videos. Thank you!
My 2020 Camry LE is still going strong at 214,000 miles.
So glad to know. I have a 2019 SE (same 4 cyl) that just hit 16K and I am hoping to keep it for a very long time. I will be obsessive with the maintenance, too. My 2011 Camry LE was passed on to my son and now has 185K, still running perfectly.
2018 Camry SE 106,000 miles, no problems.
what about the 8 speed transmission? I've heard they fail around 170,000. I've heard the CVT in the hybrid Camrys is more durable
@@4af Over 219,000 miles on my 2020 Camry LE with the 2.5 L gas/8 speed transmission combo. Transmission fluid changed at 70,000, 100,000, 175,000, and will change again around 225,000. Seems to be fine.
Its nice to have a timing chain. The cheapest belt service I have found for my Honda J35 was 950$ which was a whole 500$ cheaper than the next cheapest option. The parts kit was only 180$ and if I had a lift, would have done it myself. But on the Lexus its not even a concern, the 2GR doesn't need chain service.
Yeah those Honda J series can get expensive for timing belts. From what I've seen, J35's cost a lot more than the old J30's. I've heard this is because the procedure is more involved on the J35--something about tighter packaging and having to remove/drop some suspension components to do the job. My mom wanted an Accord coupe with a J35 as her "nice" car. Wasn't interested in the 4cyl option. That's fine and all, but I warned her to squirrel away $1200-1500, because one day it will ask for that timing belt service. She was perfectly willing to accept that future reality.
@@thatoneotherotherguy yep. You have to drop the engine a whole 12" or do with the entire subframe so that's why you pretty much need a lift
I will never buy a timing belt vehicle. I'm not doing that job or paying someone to do it when I can get a Toyota with a chain and never worry about it. Hundreds of dollars or hours of time and work for something that should be in necessary. Honda can keep it.
@@robertbell525 it is annoying that Honda stayed the course on V6 belts. That said, if you like the car enough, you can make the excuse for it and spend the extra money every 100,000 miles if you'd like. Just depends how much you want the car. I had a timing belt done on a 2004 Accord with a J30 and a six-speed manual, and I had 60,000 great miles in that car. Was worth it for me. That said, I am happy my upcoming 4Runner runs a chain.
Remember that a Honda Timing Belt Service includes the water pump replacement as well, which in basically every car recommends doing this around 100,000. The price for replacing a water pump isn't too far off the Timing Belt Service. Yes, it's a pain, but it gets done at the same time so I'm not trading in my J35Y1 anytime soon.
When you talked about changing the oil change at 10,000mi in a Toyota I was impressed. My Toyota dealer, Philps Toyota in Leesburg Fl. ,has a lifetime guarantee but I have to have the oil changed every 5,000 mi. just like you said.
So I gather that the friction of the chain against the raw metal of the top guide caused the excessive heat rendering the chain bad? You would think a (Toyota) design improvement would be to better fasten the plastic guide piece to the steel bracket piece. That, of course, wouldn’t fix the worn VVTG! 😊
My 2003 Corolla with 310K same VVTI same chain ! Praise God.
No praise Toyota 😂
@@nuddin99 Nooo everything good comes from !! God! make no mistake about it. Read John (3:3) Jesus !!!
@@user-pd9vm9ts1o Loony
Just to say Thank you for share all this valuable information , God bless you and your family always.
The Car Care Nut - Thanks for the advice.!! Pure gold!
Excellent! Question tell us about the official Toyota service and maintenance manuals. How many different manuals are available for each model ( mechanical, electrical, suspension, drive chain, body panels, interiors)?
For most toyota's if you need a manual for service...something is really wrong.
@@singular9 Yes there certainly is! I was just a point A to B type of car car person. Thanks to AMD I decided to stop fighting the outright lying of my local Honda dealer. I usually buy only Honda Accords once every five years and never had a problem except the lying by my local Honda Service department. How to avoid the lying? Stop buying a Honda! They can hire honest mechanics or advertise for new customers it is their choice. As a result of AMD I switched from Accord to a 2022 Toyota Corolla SE. Love that car! But a new problem. When I listened to the Toyota F&I salesman exaggerate and bloviate. I wrote down a list of items the dealer wanted to add. I said NO thank you. No addendum and paid for the car at MSRP. I left the car in front of the New car sales area and the walked over to the Parts department where I heard more bloviation about the parts " MUST BE INSTALLED" by the dealer like security lug nuts for each wheel? Give me a break, I know that $41 for a full set is cheaper than $150! The Parts manager told me that "Toyota does not have Parts numbers". So I bought the lug nuts and had my Professional auto detailer apply the "ceramic" paint coating at $900 less than the coating. What about the oil, drain plug gasket and oil filter? I bought them from a different Toyota dealer. Why do these people just plain lie? There is no one to complain to. Mr. Akio Toyoda President of Toyota motors, where are you? We must force your dealers to abide by your agreements. Are some Toyota dealers giving your brand a bad reputation?? This is why I need a full set of manuals. I am looking for one honest T-Ten Toyota trained technician. In the mean time, I need to know what to know ( maintenance manual) when I finally hire one. I do not trust two local Dealers. One uses the SAE 5-20 oil instead of Toyota SAE synthetic 0-16W (on a new car in cold weather) since "they ran out two months ago" and the other is too sketchy.
You can get Mobil 1 , 0w 16 and it will work fine
@@mikehand2668 I just bought several cases of Toyota 0w-16 , several oil filters, activated carbon cabin filter and extra goodies. I lost my trust in local Toyota Dealer Service. I do not feel guilty for not trusting those who deceive others. I plan to work around problems that I identify. The car is mine and only I am responsible for preventive maintenance, maintenance and repair and NOT "Toyota care". I know that the local T-Ten trained mechanics are getting paid a barely living wage while state law requires $15.50/hour to hand sweep a parking lot and fast food order clerks make abut $22/hr to punch an icon of a burger and say " Do you want fries with this?". Dealer mechanics and Technicians are getting between $20-30/ hr with few benefits while the Dealer charges suckers like me $200/ hour labor rate. My family physician doesn't make that much. Maybe an ad in Craig's list will help me in locating a T-Ten trained technician who will work for less than $200/hour? I'll pay for the lift and equipment required. Of course I always pay with real money ie cash (" For all debts public and private") as is printed on each Federal Reserve Note. Honest mechanics will be able to survive on "side jobs" with no "upselling" or bogus findings, reports or work.
As for checking the timing chain paint marks without removing the front cover, can't you just turn the engine over by hand at the crank and inspect the top of the chain all the way around where it goes over the two cam gears? Is that area is exposed with the valve cover off?
That is what I am thinking. I guess we can just rotate the crank when we see all the paint marks.
i would say it is possible, i replaced my valve cover gasket recently and you can clearly see the top of the chain, so i dont see an issue with turning it over by hand to see the marks
Yes. You can turn the engine by hand with cover on. It will skip with it off. But you can't see the guides.
He probably just likes to get in there and inspect all the guides, I'm guessing.
@@chrisg7859When we can see the timing paint marks are clear, the guides are probably good too.
Great Video! I have my appointment late January, I can’t wait!
What a great information you posted on . I do appreciate your time and business.
Hey AMD, my wife 2018 Camry SE 4cylinder has a leaking main seal. 76k miles. I’m planing on bringing it to you
Only 4 years old? I’m sorry to hear this. But that’s unbelievable.
@@mr3klax exactly