People saying bring back simpler days, but honestly, back in the day was just as bad. When I went to upgrade back in the day I ended up buying a 68EC030 because I though it was just a different designation of a 68030, but it didn't have a memory management unit, which limited me to 64mb RAM. Fair enough, the most RAM that computer ever had was 16mb, but it's not the point. You didn't even t'internet to tell you back then, and the sales catalogues certainly weren't gonna tell you. You'd have to spend the modern equivalent(not even kidding here) of about £10 in magazines to find out, and that was only if what you were looking for was indeed a featured product. Thank god for the internet and channels like this one. And that's my old man rant for today.
EC stood for Economy and was a stripped down version. You could find it anywhere at the time. The CD32 has a 68EC020 for instance. And I got that info from both magazines and chatting on BBSes. Sorry you got an EC. If i had been there I would have told you.
@@thelonestar_0336 40-something, mate. My first computer used an 8-bit 6510 clocked at about 980kHz and a mighty 16 colours at 320x200(160x200 if you wanted more than 2 colours).
@@Trick-Framed Couldn't afford a modem, even the magazines were a stretch, and they had nothing on CPUs. Keep in mind I was a teenager of limited resources, once I'd bought one mag that was me spent.
If you weren't paying attention, you could effectively sidegrade from a 286 to a lower clocked 386SX. You'd still have the advantage of a 32-bit platform, but that in general didn't really come into play until the 486 era.
Considering the 7500F exists, this really should've been the 5700F. Esp. since it was released to retail, *after* the 'F' suffix became in-use by AMD for IGP-less CPUs/APUs)
Even that would have been misleading, since the 7500f is the same configuration as the 7600. There really isn’t a good way to name this chip. The 5700x should really have been the 5800, then this can be the 5700 with no issues just like what the 5500 is to the 5600. AMD shot themselves in the foot with the naming scheme.
@@alltheotherhandlesaretakenthere is a Ryzen 7 5800 already, it was released early on for OEMs. But when they released it to Retail they changed the name to 5700X
@@alltheotherhandlesaretakenall of their cpus have messed up naming, every time a new stack of products launch they keep on making the names weirder and making less sense
I think 5700GF would be okay, as Hardware Unboxed suggested. There is precedent for the ‘G’ chips being different, and the extra letters are an indication that this may be a different type of product from the regular CPUs. Whereas 5700 just sounds like an upgrade over the 5600.
So many unsuspecting buyers are going to be shafted by this and the 6GB 3050. I think 5700F would be a good name, it clearly differentiates itself from the 5600, 5600X and 5700X.
AMD should have called it the 5700X1D since the cut down cache hampers performance the same way that the extra cache in the X3D chips help boost performance.
I think all of AMD's "APU with disabled iGPU" chips should have an LE(Loser Edition) suffix as you lose both the iGPU and the extra cache. You're getting a CPU with wasted die space where an iGPU should be. So yea, this would be the 5700LE.
but you get better RAM overclock ->infinity bridge clock and latency R5500 is great example of apu with disabled igpu - it's cheap and make obsolete 3600x/4500 and etc even on used market
The decision to name the preexisting 5800 (only found in prebuilts) as the 5700x for single component retail baffled me at the time but now it's actually causing problems due to confusing naming. Truly incredible
@@Steven-hq3go But the 5700 is completely different silicon and does not behave or perform like the name would imply - it even lacks features like PCIe4.
The big drawback of this CPU is the lack of PCIEX 4.0, so it means that you are going to get a performance penalty with some modern GPUs in certain scenarios (i'm talking about those with 8 pciex lines and less, such as RX6400, 6500 and even 6600/XT, 4060 and 4060Ti). Of course it's not a huge deal with 8 lines but still visible with 0.1 lows especially
main takeaway: dayum, ryzen 5 5600 got hella cheap (129.99€ in Croatia), I would consider upgrading my ryzen 5 2600 had I not already decided to go to another city for university in a year and a half (I'll need a laptop, cuz who tf wants to lug a gaming pc with 2 monitors around)
When I went to uni I lugged a mid tower Pentium 100 with a CRT monitor to university because it was the 1990s and nobody could afford a laptop in the 90s.
Also interesting are the new 5600GT and 5500GT both are 6/12 apu's the clocks on 5500GT is a bit lower but iirc both are higher than the original 5600G
With a good cooler you can get a 5600G clocking high, but if you are using the graphics, I underclock the CPU and overclock the IGPU for more thermal headroom. Maybe you could have both on water but I always stick to a good air cooler.
@@valuedcustomer9614 you cannot rely on TDP thats written in the box bruh. Go find power draw comparison between 5700 vs 5700x. X series uses more power than non X since it has bigger l3 chache
@@nuzulamru The 5700X doesn't draw that much more power than a 5700 and certainly nothing to be concerned about. The 5700X not only has more cache, it also has PCIE 4.0. As long as you don't overclock it, the 5700X runs very cool.
5700F, implying that it DOESN'T have intergrated graphics, I know it's a suffix used for Intel CPU's but I feel like it better explains the 5700 than just having no suffix, considering most non G Ryzen CPU's aren't relatively as cut down as the 5700 is.
5700F is also incorrect. None of the AM4 CPUs have iGPUs. That's just an APU with a disabled iGPU. They should have just named the 5700X the 5800. But AMD ruined everything again.
i have a 5700x and was surpised to see a price cut on the 5800x3d when the 5700x3d launched. im thinking of upgrading at some point to maximize the potential of my am4 board. however the 5700x3d is only 20 euros cheaper than the 58 in my region so for that 20 bux i dont really see the point of the 5700x3d
Probably for regions where the money aren't the Dollar, for example here in brazil, where a 5800x3d cost about 2200 BRL and the Ryzen 5700x3d is close to 1700 BRL... is a big difference in our currency, for this reason i recently bought this 5700x3d, because its simmilar on performance and dont cost so much for me... i think u got the point
Went from 5700X to 5700X3D and honestly. My 1% and 0,1% low are much better but overall it wasnt worth upgrade so i think 5800X3D is not worth from 5700X if you are using slower GPU than RTX 4070 TI Super. I using RX6800 with mine.
im also running a 6800 but im thinking of upgrading to a 5070 if it comes at the same price as a 4070 with 16gb vram. it all depends what i can get for my 5700x and better 1% lows is still pretty good. we will see. if the price is right at the time i might upgrade but time will tell. thanks for letting me know @@MartinPCBrokes
wow yea that is a big difference. i would have done the same as you in that situation. im in europe so its also a little different than the $ for some reason the 5700x3d here is quite expensive @@Hideofc
5700x to 5700x3d jump isnt worth it unless you have a 6950xt or 4070ti anthing better i would switch platforms instead if you should get a decent price for your stuff.
Well based on the AMD Ryzen 1000-5000 naming conventions: 1. Ryzen 7 are 8 core chips (except Zen and Zen+ APU) and have model numbers of x700 to x899 2. Ryzen 5 are 4-6 core chips and have model numbers of x500 to x699, with Ryzen 5 1400 being the only exception 3. The model numbers of Ryzen 3, 5, 7, 9 chips must not exceed their boundaries (eg. Ryzen 7 5650 or Ryzen 5 5700 are not allowed) Calling it Ryzen 7 5700 is really the only option as it's an 8-core CPU with the lowest spec among the 8-core Ryzen 7 5000 lineup. Instead the problem lies on AMD releasing the OEM-only Ryzen 7 5800 as 5700X (their specs are identical), thus confusing the 5700 lineup which has a Vermeer X3D chip, a normal Vermeer chip and two Cezanne chips. Had AMD stuck with 5800 it wouldn't be as bad as it is. And before you argue AMD would not release an OEM-only chip to retail market under the same name, remember Ryzen 7 5700 was also OEM-only at first.
I have the ryzen 5700x, It's great for 1080p gaming on ultra when pair with 4070 gtx on ultra settings on anygame, Truely a great 8 core / 16 total cores cpu for its price indeed 🥰Great video indeed ! 😇 Also great cpu for 4k gaming from what i've seen too.
I bet the price will just come down until it makes sense. AM4 as a platform is an amazing deal anyway right now! New enough to bring great performance, old enough to be dirt cheap. The fact that it's a "dead platform" isn't relevant to most people anyway because to be honest, by the time an upgrade is worth it, you're normally getting a whole new platform anyway.
AM4 isn't even dead yet, as we recently got the 5700X3D, and they plan to potentially make a 5500X3D in due course. AM4 is quite the platform to be on presently for both budget and high performance users alike, even though it's overshadowed by AM5.
It's only a dead platform for the influencers/sellers,AM4 will live as long as Epyc servers are used by business (They dont change on a whim/hype or get FOMO) they need to sell the silicon that doesnt cut it for servers. Businesses will adopt the new tech .. after they have screwed every last drop of value from their current servers
I read online about this CPU recently, and this surprises me as well. Personally, they should have done to the 5700 what they did with the 5600: make it more common to the 5700X rather than basically call it a 5700G with no iGPU. Because right now, if prices are similar, you're better off getting either the 5700G (with integrated graphics in case your dedicated GPU fails) or the 5600X/5700X.
I agree that the 5600x and 5700 should be listed at the same price ….so you have two (2) options at this price point: - a well performing 6C/12t cpu with more cache for better for gaming without a cooler: or - a decent performing 8c/16t cpu with less cache but for better workstation rendering functionality with a cpu cooler: This gives consumers a better choice with a clear definition of what each cpu is marketed for …… imo anyways.🤔🤷♂🤷♀
In Canada, the 5700X is only C$20 more than the 5700 & is a much better value. This CPU should have been called the 5700F since it's the 5700G without the IGP. It's really an F series processor, not sure why they didn't add that suffix... It isn't like AMD doesn't use the same F suffix to denote lack of IGP like Intel, they did it with processors like the Ryzen 5 7500F, so I'm not sure why they didn't do it for the 5700 as well...
R5500 is great example of apu with disabled igpu - no pciex4 and 16Mb l3, but it really fast anf cheap (5500 make obsolete 3600x/4500 and etc even on used market prices sometimes)
@gsuhz41 ebay. Originally it had a 500w spu, 8gb ram a 1tb hdd, an air cooler and a rx 5300 and I paid 350. I added ram, an aio, the psu and the rx 5700xt and 2 small ssd a for the rest getting Hella deals on ebay
I'm a bit confused about the "minimum framerate" values in this video. if those percent lows are lower than the "minimum framerate", what does it really mean? minimum average? please enlighten me. 😊
G'day Random, Yeah it is a bit confusing with it being the Monlithic Die Architecture & I agree it should get a designation to show that. Maybe being a 5700F as 7500F = No IGP in AMD now too so hint it is a 5700G with no IGP, or as there are now some Monolithic R5 GT revisions 5700T would have been better at showing it is not just a slower 5700X but something different.
it wouldve been a good option if the price was decent, just like the 5500 was against the 5600g, but 5700 here was priced the same as the 7500f and 5700x, even tho it is an old cpu
@@bipolarkeyboard I love how you completely ignore what I said. Nobody is forcing you to buy this. You just want to complain. There are far better deals available and I do agree this chip should cost way less. BUT NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO BUY THIS, YOU JUST WANT TO WHINE ABOUT SOMETHING.
The fclock on these chips goes past 2200mhz, i clocked mine specifically to 2200mhz on 1.35soc mv (its safe on monolithic ryzen, Derbaurer did a video tortue testing it for months) The 5700/5700g isnt a worse CPU than the 5700x. But you cant build it with the same logic. Ryzen chiplets usually hit their limit around fclock 1900, sometimes 1800 for the unlucky. So reviewers often choose ddr4 3200mhz with the tightest timings so like cl14. Thats the best possible match for their wide variety of am4 ryzen as it has been since like 3000. Monolithic ryzen has half the cache, but in exchange it has much better memory scaling and infinity fabric. Building a 5700/g system can actually result in much better performance for a person who loves to tweak it and knows ahead of time that it cant be built with the same logic. Higher speed ram, set fclock much higher, set soc voltage higher than normal ryzen (1.35 max) it'll be incredibly power efficient while OCing well. I got my 5700g to all core 4.8mhz on 1.32mv stable. Gamed on it for months, benched it, no crashes. Used like 110w max.
I knew the 5700X3D just came out, I didn't realise they put this out as well. Do you have any opinions of the 3D cache Ryzen stuff at all? I recently upgraded from a 2700 to a 5800X3D and performance has been stellar.
The 5800X3D is the only CPU that is worth buying for people who have an AM4 motherboard and want a quick upgrade. I actually know people who went from ryzen 7 5700X to 5800X3D and feel good about it... its nuts
Hi, need some advice plz. Have a 3 yr old Alpha-sync gaming PC that has never been used. Never been switched on. Does the Thermal Paste on the CPU & GPU need to be replaced before it can be used ? PC is an AMD 3600, 5700XT GPU. Plz only answer if you are certain of your advice, I don't want to damage anything. Thank you.
@1Fracino I'm sure it would be safe to do so, but I would recommend benchmarking the PC right after with something like Cinebench, Prine95, or if you have some scratch, 3DMark. I would also highly recommend HWMonitor to keep an eye on temps during the whole run to make sure none of it overheats.
What a coincidence... I have built my parents a new office machine and don't know what to do with the i5 7400, MSI B250M PRO-VD and 2x4GB 2400MHz CL17 RAM. If you fancy having it for one of your videos, let me know. It's fully functioning.
Still rocking my AM4, Ryzen 7 5800 with a 3070. Next Upgrade is to AM5, but only if prices are coming down. The good Motherboards are way too overpriced at the moment. And considering that DDR5 Ram is too needed, it will be a pricey upgrade. New Ram, new board, new cpu. But to be honest... The Ryzen 7 5800 is a beast and runs everything. I think that i can stick more than 2 years from now on with it. So enough time for prices to drop.
Six months ago I got myself the Ryzen 7 7700 with my RTX4060, it was the only GPU in stock for the price I could afford, and I needed a GPU one way or another, with the hope of getting a 4070 later... I'm still waiting for prices to go down, might be another year or two.
a GPU upgrade that'd be worthwhile from Nvidia would be the 4080S from that 4060. generally though if you don't need CUDA cores and are more power-concious, there's similar performing, lesser power options out there, like the Intel A770, and AMD's RX 7700XT both hovering around the 230-250 watt mark for max power under load, though both normally stay under 70% of their max power.
Should've been called the Ryzen 7 5700F (or even 5700AF would've been a nice throwback) since they literally did that with the 7500F, albeit that CPU is identical to the 7600 (just minus the iGPU) which is ALSO "mostly" identical to the 7600X, the only meaningful difference being 65w TDP vs 105w and the base/boost clocks. But otherwise all 3 of those Zen 4 based Ryzen 5s all have the same core architecture, PCIe support, total cache, and can almost perform within the same territory based on silicon lottery/peak clock speed. The 5700 on the other hand, is a iGPU-less 5700G which was already designed slightly different with its layout of Zen 3 cores and had only 1/2 of the L3 cache / supported PCIe 3.0 only compared to the 5700X and 5800X. I guess it would be an "acceptable" upgrade for someone looking for the cheapest possible 8-core on AM4 with the most IPC...though you might as well just get a 5700X for ~$150 or so. Or a 5600 for ~$100-120 and OC it to 4.6Ghz+ all-core and run 3600Mhz+ RAM with a low CL
Looks like psu problem but my be your gou is hitting 90 degree safe limit temps change thermal paste Your pc or gpu might get burned soon in both problems
check your temps as one reply has said. also check if your psu can handle your system, there are stress tests like unigine heaven repaste if overheating is a problem. please look for guides online if you are confused about repasting.
I would say 5700F, but the problem is that the only other CPU using this suffix, the 7500F, is actually a GPU-less 7600 with 100 MHz off the clocks but the full 32 MiB L3. It is a mess.
i bought a 8700F for $149 today which also has half the cache than its counterpart the 7700 and also has an older pcie connection 4vs5 so this is a regularity in amd for some reasons amd just does these cpus
Meh if they get the price below $150 USD I'd say it would still be a good buy as many won't be just running a SP game, they will be running a game AND running Discord AND Spotify AND having some browser tabs open and I found coming from a 3600 to a 5700X in just gaming there wasn't much difference, but multitasking is where having extra threads does help.
i replaced my 4500 with a 5700x last week i only paid £140 for it open box new this cpu does not make sence to me 5600 is cheaper and has pcie 4 support. can you compare this cpu to a 5600 or 5600x ect
i'd say it should be 5710, a non-standard name for a rather peculiar part. Intel does the same with with their OEM parts like the infamous Intel Core I3 5005U.
intels naming is shit too. 5700 is a better and more easily found name than 5710. Your suggestion would give them less sales. Also, its not like its the first of its kind. And since it is like the 5700g, the naming makes more sense than others, 5700x should just be 5800. And 5600g should've been 5500g.
AMD has been super cheeky with names for years. Ryzen 2000 APUs actually being Zen 1, Ryzen 5000 Apus actually being Zen 2, Ryzen 4000 cpus actually being 3000 cores, 5k, 7k, 3k ryzen skus all had different CPUs names the same, HD 7870-GHZ-270x-370x 😂
@@CasuallyHuman099 a 4 core CPU that you have to get an AM5 and DDR5 ram for doesn't make much sense Edit: even if it doesn't make sense, there's an 8300G for some reason. 4C8T, 3.4Ghz base, 4.9Ghz boost
@@Giuliana-w1f for an entry level why not? not only cores count but the instructions set they put on latest am5 which is avx512 for an entry level CPU is great, why u said not make any sense, again entry level on latest platform is not only cores count but upgraded clock speed, efficiency, and ofc futures proof for longer upgrades and supports
This is a really misleading name. Because we've had a 1700, 2700, and 3700 which were "normal" in terms of cache and PCI lanes as the X version. They should have just made a new line of CPU's, when they did this kind of thing before Ryzen they called the CPU's "Athlon", so it was very clear what they were.
This one is a bit upsetting to me. They’ve offered these igpu less chips before, but Ive never seen a more expensive R7 have fewer features than the R5 with the same naming conventions. Pretty shameful because even people like me that do their homework could easily miss this.
I got this same CPU I got it last year..I was kinda confused when they said it was a new CPU I got mine last July...then I seen it was available in pre-built computer's that's where mine must have came from. It was brand new and I paid 100 dollars for it.not a bad CPU.
5700GF - confusing, yet most informative, given the current nomenclature What it also means there likely won't be "5750" or "5745" variant, so ECC and TSME are off the table Unleeeeeeess this isn't already a 5750G at its core, which I kind of doubt
Unpopular opinion: integrated graphics should return to being a motherboard feature instead of a CPU feature. In fact, they should be socketable and upgradeable.
Gotta admit that the naming of this CPU was done horribly wrong. Even I thought first that this is just a lower-clocked 5700X before I did some research.
5700 should named as 5700E, which could see as an iGPU cut down version of the GE suffix with higher TDP, F suffix are already used on 7500F with full pcie 5.0/24lane/32M Cache, APU cut down CPU should not be named with F in AMD side.
Given you can pick up a 5800X (non 3d) right now for only £7 more than this I know where I would spend my money. In fact that's where I did spend my money a couple of weeks back to upgrade my ageing 3600
Not very much of an upgrade from 3000 series, taking into account that a 5600G performs *exactly* the same as a 3600, so at best it would perform like a 3700X (or maybe even worse)
i have a 5700x and its a really good CPU that will be still hold up for at least next 5 years... those processor with vega graphics kind screw on future
I Love AMD for making a bang in the market. It still makes it but way less than intel. I was a die hard Intel fan, until I heard of cheap but decent graphics inside the CPU that were insanely better than Intels counterpart. Now I'll never go blue again
Cezanne 5700, no one who bought those, OEMs and SIs (5700G no iGPU forced on them probably?, haha) in a primary procurement package paid anything for them before brokering off Cezanne 5700 into the open market. Buy enough PC kit to ask for one as purchase sales close incentive for free. mb
RYZEN 7 5700GF. this was a big fail imo- the current name is very misleading based on past products.
5700 girlfriend edition.
@@one_step_sideways All the core elements but never enough cache.
It's still not totally horrendous it is just a bit confusing for those that don't read specs before buying.
@@one_step_sideways Two things I'll never have
@@boanerges5723 The 8 core 5700 is no better than the 6 core 5600 in most games. Reading the box won't help.
People saying bring back simpler days, but honestly, back in the day was just as bad. When I went to upgrade back in the day I ended up buying a 68EC030 because I though it was just a different designation of a 68030, but it didn't have a memory management unit, which limited me to 64mb RAM. Fair enough, the most RAM that computer ever had was 16mb, but it's not the point. You didn't even t'internet to tell you back then, and the sales catalogues certainly weren't gonna tell you. You'd have to spend the modern equivalent(not even kidding here) of about £10 in magazines to find out, and that was only if what you were looking for was indeed a featured product.
Thank god for the internet and channels like this one.
And that's my old man rant for today.
EC stood for Economy and was a stripped down version. You could find it anywhere at the time. The CD32 has a 68EC020 for instance. And I got that info from both magazines and chatting on BBSes. Sorry you got an EC. If i had been there I would have told you.
How old are you sorry?
@@thelonestar_0336 40-something, mate. My first computer used an 8-bit 6510 clocked at about 980kHz and a mighty 16 colours at 320x200(160x200 if you wanted more than 2 colours).
@@Trick-Framed Couldn't afford a modem, even the magazines were a stretch, and they had nothing on CPUs. Keep in mind I was a teenager of limited resources, once I'd bought one mag that was me spent.
If you weren't paying attention, you could effectively sidegrade from a 286 to a lower clocked 386SX. You'd still have the advantage of a 32-bit platform, but that in general didn't really come into play until the 486 era.
Considering the 7500F exists, this really should've been the 5700F. Esp. since it was released to retail, *after* the 'F' suffix became in-use by AMD for IGP-less CPUs/APUs)
Even that would have been misleading, since the 7500f is the same configuration as the 7600. There really isn’t a good way to name this chip. The 5700x should really have been the 5800, then this can be the 5700 with no issues just like what the 5500 is to the 5600. AMD shot themselves in the foot with the naming scheme.
@@alltheotherhandlesaretakenthere is a Ryzen 7 5800 already, it was released early on for OEMs. But when they released it to Retail they changed the name to 5700X
@@alltheotherhandlesaretakenall of their cpus have messed up naming, every time a new stack of products launch they keep on making the names weirder and making less sense
I think 5700GF would be okay, as Hardware Unboxed suggested. There is precedent for the ‘G’ chips being different, and the extra letters are an indication that this may be a different type of product from the regular CPUs. Whereas 5700 just sounds like an upgrade over the 5600.
But all Ryzen 1000-5000 series CPUs are assumed to have no iGPU by default unless there is a "G" after the number.
So many unsuspecting buyers are going to be shafted by this and the 6GB 3050. I think 5700F would be a good name, it clearly differentiates itself from the 5600, 5600X and 5700X.
5700F is also incorrect. They should have just named the 5700X the 5800. But AMD ruined everything again.
6GB RTX 3050 has a valid use case, just bad naming.
The Ryzen 7 5700 is straight up a scam since even the 6 cores Ryzen 5 5600 beats it.
@@rinsenpai135 In gaming yes but in anything else (mt at least) 5700 is faster. But stil terrible product at this price.
5700 lite
@@one_step_sidewaysThey should've went with 5700GF instead, yeah funny suffix aside it's clear it's a 5700G without the IGP.
AMD should have called it the 5700X1D since the cut down cache hampers performance the same way that the extra cache in the X3D chips help boost performance.
ryzen 7 5700(-G)(-D) is what they should've called it.
X3D has extra L3 not L2 BTW, the 5700 is based off Cezanne with reduced L2 cache and PCIE 3.0. Vermeer fixed this problem
@@RaceT3ch Again, Cezanne has the same L2 but lower L3 than Vermeer. All Zen 3 iterations have 512K L2 per core.
Well every non x3d cpu should be called 1d then, since none of them have stacked l3 cache
or just 5700XD because the performance is XD laughable.
I think all of AMD's "APU with disabled iGPU" chips should have an LE(Loser Edition) suffix as you lose both the iGPU and the extra cache. You're getting a CPU with wasted die space where an iGPU should be. So yea, this would be the 5700LE.
You get better power efficiency and 7nm IO
but you get better RAM overclock ->infinity bridge clock and latency
R5500 is great example of apu with disabled igpu - it's cheap and make obsolete 3600x/4500 and etc even on used market
Sucker edition for sure
It's still there, these are failed 5700G chips.
@@Steven-hq3go It's a desktop chip, so it doesn't really matter. Also PCIe 3.0 instead of 4.0.
The decision to name the preexisting 5800 (only found in prebuilts) as the 5700x for single component retail baffled me at the time but now it's actually causing problems due to confusing naming. Truly incredible
Both 5700 and 5800 are all 8 cores so not too bad.
I think the 5800 had a higher TDP.
@@Steven-hq3go But the 5700 is completely different silicon and does not behave or perform like the name would imply - it even lacks features like PCIe4.
@@ABaumstumpf I am aware it's an outlier. Have other APUs with disabled IGP been released before I wonder. I can't imagine this is a high volume part
@@Steven-hq3go Yes - i think there were like 4 models. And nearly all of them were crap and/or misleading.
The big drawback of this CPU is the lack of PCIEX 4.0, so it means that you are going to get a performance penalty with some modern GPUs in certain scenarios (i'm talking about those with 8 pciex lines and less, such as RX6400, 6500 and even 6600/XT, 4060 and 4060Ti). Of course it's not a huge deal with 8 lines but still visible with 0.1 lows especially
if you run a rx660 x8, pci3.0 you wont notice, a 6500xt however on x4.. is noticeable
@@joggabonkers6380 I saw a few tests where even 6600 got some performance penalty
@@onizuka4534 I only look at the lows, what is the minimum I will get. If you have good lows, the highs take care of themselves.
I have used Ryzen 5 5500 + RX6600 and I totally agree with you the AVG FPS is amazing but the Low% ruined my gaming experience
@@GravityBlood yep you ain't the first guy who experienced it. 4060ti is struggling too
They're just getting rid of silicon anyway they can now lol
Exactly.
I mean it's not an inherently bad thing. I just think they need to adjust the price
@@Michael-ft3vg Exactly! If the price was lower and the naming less stupid, it would be fine!
@@Michael-ft3vgWell said.
It's crazy how this cpu is absent of PCIE 4.0, something that is present on 5600.
main takeaway: dayum, ryzen 5 5600 got hella cheap (129.99€ in Croatia), I would consider upgrading my ryzen 5 2600 had I not already decided to go to another city for university in a year and a half (I'll need a laptop, cuz who tf wants to lug a gaming pc with 2 monitors around)
Mine has been serving me well!
@@blunderingfool well that's obvious, it's a really good CPU for the price
You can look at 5500 too
it's apu without igpu like this 5700, so no pciex4 and onlu 16mb l3, but it still fast and very cheap
Hey, can most people in Croatia speak English? I'm so tired of living in my country and am thinking about moving.
When I went to uni I lugged a mid tower Pentium 100 with a CRT monitor to university because it was the 1990s and nobody could afford a laptop in the 90s.
Also interesting are the new 5600GT and 5500GT both are 6/12 apu's the clocks on 5500GT is a bit lower but iirc both are higher than the original 5600G
With a good cooler you can get a 5600G clocking high, but if you are using the graphics, I underclock the CPU and overclock the IGPU for more thermal headroom. Maybe you could have both on water but I always stick to a good air cooler.
Well what about power draw and cooling? 5700x draws more...
The 5700X has a 65 watt thermal design power (TDP) rating, the same as the 5700G, 5600 and 5600X.
@@valuedcustomer9614 you cannot rely on TDP thats written in the box bruh. Go find power draw comparison between 5700 vs 5700x. X series uses more power than non X since it has bigger l3 chache
@@nuzulamru The 5700X doesn't draw that much more power than a 5700 and certainly nothing to be concerned about. The 5700X not only has more cache, it also has PCIE 4.0. As long as you don't overclock it, the 5700X runs very cool.
5700F, implying that it DOESN'T have intergrated graphics, I know it's a suffix used for Intel CPU's but I feel like it better explains the 5700 than just having no suffix, considering most non G Ryzen CPU's aren't relatively as cut down as the 5700 is.
Yeah that would suit it :)
They've even used the suffix with the Ryzen 5 7500F
5700F is also incorrect. None of the AM4 CPUs have iGPUs. That's just an APU with a disabled iGPU. They should have just named the 5700X the 5800. But AMD ruined everything again.
The Nonsence-Name Ryzen 7 5700GF would be correct....
@@one_step_sideways its the G ones that have it but yeah, the rest didn't have one
i have a 5700x and was surpised to see a price cut on the 5800x3d when the 5700x3d launched. im thinking of upgrading at some point to maximize the potential of my am4 board. however the 5700x3d is only 20 euros cheaper than the 58 in my region so for that 20 bux i dont really see the point of the 5700x3d
Probably for regions where the money aren't the Dollar, for example here in brazil, where a 5800x3d cost about 2200 BRL and the Ryzen 5700x3d is close to 1700 BRL... is a big difference in our currency, for this reason i recently bought this 5700x3d, because its simmilar on performance and dont cost so much for me... i think u got the point
Went from 5700X to 5700X3D and honestly. My 1% and 0,1% low are much better but overall it wasnt worth upgrade so i think 5800X3D is not worth from 5700X if you are using slower GPU than RTX 4070 TI Super. I using RX6800 with mine.
im also running a 6800 but im thinking of upgrading to a 5070 if it comes at the same price as a 4070 with 16gb vram. it all depends what i can get for my 5700x and better 1% lows is still pretty good. we will see. if the price is right at the time i might upgrade but time will tell. thanks for letting me know @@MartinPCBrokes
wow yea that is a big difference. i would have done the same as you in that situation. im in europe so its also a little different than the $ for some reason the 5700x3d here is quite expensive @@Hideofc
5700x to 5700x3d jump isnt worth it unless you have a 6950xt or 4070ti anthing better i would switch platforms instead if you should get a decent price for your stuff.
Well based on the AMD Ryzen 1000-5000 naming conventions:
1. Ryzen 7 are 8 core chips (except Zen and Zen+ APU) and have model numbers of x700 to x899
2. Ryzen 5 are 4-6 core chips and have model numbers of x500 to x699, with Ryzen 5 1400 being the only exception
3. The model numbers of Ryzen 3, 5, 7, 9 chips must not exceed their boundaries (eg. Ryzen 7 5650 or Ryzen 5 5700 are not allowed)
Calling it Ryzen 7 5700 is really the only option as it's an 8-core CPU with the lowest spec among the 8-core Ryzen 7 5000 lineup.
Instead the problem lies on AMD releasing the OEM-only Ryzen 7 5800 as 5700X (their specs are identical), thus confusing the 5700 lineup which has a Vermeer X3D chip, a normal Vermeer chip and two Cezanne chips. Had AMD stuck with 5800 it wouldn't be as bad as it is.
And before you argue AMD would not release an OEM-only chip to retail market under the same name, remember Ryzen 7 5700 was also OEM-only at first.
I have the ryzen 5700x, It's great for 1080p gaming on ultra when pair with 4070 gtx on ultra settings on anygame, Truely a great 8 core / 16 total cores cpu for its price indeed 🥰Great video indeed ! 😇 Also great cpu for 4k gaming from what i've seen too.
It's the "Ryzen 7 5700 you don't want". The Ryzen 7 5700X3D is the one you DO want.
And of course the 5800x3d and later the 5700x3d came out right after I bought a 5700x. Oh well, still a decent processor.
Even the 5700X is a very good CPU, especially if you find it on sale.
@@Gatorade69 You haven't lost anything really. 30mb which you have of cache is great. 16 is actually OK and 100mb is overkill
@@Gatorade69 Don't fret, the 5700x is still great in gaming and overall a better general use CPU.
@@Gatorade69 It happens to everyone. You just pick the point in time that you want/can afford/ think is the best time to buy in to technology.
I bet the price will just come down until it makes sense. AM4 as a platform is an amazing deal anyway right now! New enough to bring great performance, old enough to be dirt cheap.
The fact that it's a "dead platform" isn't relevant to most people anyway because to be honest, by the time an upgrade is worth it, you're normally getting a whole new platform anyway.
AM4 isn't even dead yet, as we recently got the 5700X3D, and they plan to potentially make a 5500X3D in due course. AM4 is quite the platform to be on presently for both budget and high performance users alike, even though it's overshadowed by AM5.
@@nightshadelenar Ouhyeah!I am waiting for that one!
It's only a dead platform for the influencers/sellers,AM4 will live as long as Epyc servers are used by business (They dont change on a whim/hype or get FOMO) they need to sell the silicon that doesnt cut it for servers. Businesses will adopt the new tech .. after they have screwed every last drop of value from their current servers
Would love to see reviews of the 5500GT and the 5600GT
I read online about this CPU recently, and this surprises me as well. Personally, they should have done to the 5700 what they did with the 5600: make it more common to the 5700X rather than basically call it a 5700G with no iGPU. Because right now, if prices are similar, you're better off getting either the 5700G (with integrated graphics in case your dedicated GPU fails) or the 5600X/5700X.
What about the PciE x8 what had the G version? same here?
I agree that the 5600x and 5700 should be listed at the same price ….so you have two (2) options at this price point:
- a well performing 6C/12t cpu with more cache for better for gaming without a cooler: or
- a decent performing 8c/16t cpu with less cache but for better workstation rendering functionality with a cpu cooler:
This gives consumers a better choice with a clear definition of what each cpu is marketed for …… imo anyways.🤔🤷♂🤷♀
Agreed
Thank you! I was considering getting the 5700.
My homelab server runs on the 5700G since the board doesn't allow booting without either dGPU or iGPU present.
In Canada, the 5700X is only C$20 more than the 5700 & is a much better value. This CPU should have been called the 5700F since it's the 5700G without the IGP. It's really an F series processor, not sure why they didn't add that suffix...
It isn't like AMD doesn't use the same F suffix to denote lack of IGP like Intel, they did it with processors like the Ryzen 5 7500F, so I'm not sure why they didn't do it for the 5700 as well...
since 7000 desktop has igp in default, F notation can be use.
5000 is no igp default, igp using G.
the 7500f is a desktop cpu the 5700f is a laptop whit no igpu or a 5700g whit no igpu
@@pinnaclerigde3056 5700GF then.
0:58 aim doko?
R5500 is great example of apu with disabled igpu - no pciex4 and 16Mb l3, but it really fast anf cheap (5500 make obsolete 3600x/4500 and etc even on used market prices sometimes)
The only problem with 5500 is that it is a Cezanne chip. They are all glitchy when it comes to audio.
My current system is a late 2021 alienware aurora r10 ryzen 5 5600x rx 5700xt 32gb ram 1000w psu I paid 500 total for it and it's amazing honestly
you got a steal
Good deal in fairness
What a deal, where’d you get it
@gsuhz41 ebay. Originally it had a 500w spu, 8gb ram a 1tb hdd, an air cooler and a rx 5300 and I paid 350. I added ram, an aio, the psu and the rx 5700xt and 2 small ssd a for the rest getting Hella deals on ebay
@@victoresarey4036 nice for the price if you ever decide to upgrade your cpu can handle upto a 7800xt or 4070 at 1440p .
I'm a bit confused about the "minimum framerate" values in this video.
if those percent lows are lower than the "minimum framerate", what does it really mean? minimum average? please enlighten me. 😊
Yeah, it's a little odd in its representation. 1.1% low?
Can you please do one video about AI + ML future proof pc build along with AMD options
G'day Random,
Yeah it is a bit confusing with it being the Monlithic Die Architecture & I agree it should get a designation to show that. Maybe being a 5700F as 7500F = No IGP in AMD now too so hint it is a 5700G with no IGP, or as there are now some Monolithic R5 GT revisions 5700T would have been better at showing it is not just a slower 5700X but something different.
it wouldve been a good option if the price was decent, just like the 5500 was against the 5600g, but 5700 here was priced the same as the 7500f and 5700x, even tho it is an old cpu
We are being completely screwed in all walks of life. What an interesting time to be alive
Nobody is forcing you to buy this chip.
@@Gatorade69 you're right, we have other options like the new ryzen which have less L3 cache than last years gen 🤣Quit drinking the kool-aid kiddo!
@@bipolarkeyboard I love how you completely ignore what I said. Nobody is forcing you to buy this. You just want to complain. There are far better deals available and I do agree this chip should cost way less. BUT NOBODY IS FORCING YOU TO BUY THIS, YOU JUST WANT TO WHINE ABOUT SOMETHING.
@@Gatorade69 It's amazing how your issue is with my complaining yet you just wrote a wall of text crying about said thing, get it together lil guy.
@@bipolarkeyboard "Wall of text."
4 sentences.
I'm sorry you have such a hard time reading. Stay in school and maybe you'll pass the SATs.
Always good when a new video comes out.
The ryzen 5700 should be called the 4700F I think most people would understand that naming scheme
The fclock on these chips goes past 2200mhz, i clocked mine specifically to 2200mhz on 1.35soc mv (its safe on monolithic ryzen, Derbaurer did a video tortue testing it for months)
The 5700/5700g isnt a worse CPU than the 5700x. But you cant build it with the same logic.
Ryzen chiplets usually hit their limit around fclock 1900, sometimes 1800 for the unlucky. So reviewers often choose ddr4 3200mhz with the tightest timings so like cl14. Thats the best possible match for their wide variety of am4 ryzen as it has been since like 3000. Monolithic ryzen has half the cache, but in exchange it has much better memory scaling and infinity fabric.
Building a 5700/g system can actually result in much better performance for a person who loves to tweak it and knows ahead of time that it cant be built with the same logic. Higher speed ram, set fclock much higher, set soc voltage higher than normal ryzen (1.35 max) it'll be incredibly power efficient while OCing well. I got my 5700g to all core 4.8mhz on 1.32mv stable. Gamed on it for months, benched it, no crashes. Used like 110w max.
I knew the 5700X3D just came out, I didn't realise they put this out as well. Do you have any opinions of the 3D cache Ryzen stuff at all? I recently upgraded from a 2700 to a 5800X3D and performance has been stellar.
I haven’t tested either but I’m looking forward to looking at the 5700x3d. The 5800x3d is still amazing for the money
The 5800X3D is the only CPU that is worth buying for people who have an AM4 motherboard and want a quick upgrade. I actually know people who went from ryzen 7 5700X to 5800X3D and feel good about it... its nuts
I have a 5700G. Actually, the CPU broke recently and I had to have it replaced. Thankfully, it was under warranty!
Hi, need some advice plz. Have a 3 yr old Alpha-sync gaming PC that has never been used. Never been switched on. Does the Thermal Paste on the CPU & GPU need to be replaced before it can be used ? PC is an AMD 3600, 5700XT GPU. Plz only answer if you are certain of your advice, I don't want to damage anything. Thank you.
@1Fracino I'm sure it would be safe to do so, but I would recommend benchmarking the PC right after with something like Cinebench, Prine95, or if you have some scratch, 3DMark. I would also highly recommend HWMonitor to keep an eye on temps during the whole run to make sure none of it overheats.
5700 LE. It has horrible remarks in history as being "Limited Edition" in the wrong ways, in this case the Cache xD
What a coincidence...
I have built my parents a new office machine and don't know what to do with the i5 7400, MSI B250M PRO-VD and 2x4GB 2400MHz CL17 RAM. If you fancy having it for one of your videos, let me know. It's fully functioning.
love ur vids :)
Thanks!
Still rocking my AM4, Ryzen 7 5800 with a 3070. Next Upgrade is to AM5, but only if prices are coming down. The good Motherboards are way too overpriced at the moment. And considering that DDR5 Ram is too needed, it will be a pricey upgrade. New Ram, new board, new cpu. But to be honest... The Ryzen 7 5800 is a beast and runs everything. I think that i can stick more than 2 years from now on with it. So enough time for prices to drop.
You Made a review from a cpu and in gaming we dont See Power, clock or temp ?😅
I really felt my mere 8mb of L3 cache after the Cyberpunk 2.0 patch dropped…
Six months ago I got myself the Ryzen 7 7700 with my RTX4060, it was the only GPU in stock for the price I could afford, and I needed a GPU one way or another, with the hope of getting a 4070 later... I'm still waiting for prices to go down, might be another year or two.
Not the best bang for the buck, sure, but it will run games well enough until a good deal shows up. Plus it barely sips power.
Enjoy !
@@ratonilla Cheers.
I mean, I would be wxtremely happy to even get a 1070, this pc can handle more 5 years for sure with that setup.
a GPU upgrade that'd be worthwhile from Nvidia would be the 4080S from that 4060. generally though if you don't need CUDA cores and are more power-concious, there's similar performing, lesser power options out there, like the Intel A770, and AMD's RX 7700XT both hovering around the 230-250 watt mark for max power under load, though both normally stay under 70% of their max power.
@@nightshadelenar The 4060 is more than enough for my 1080p set up. I will wait for a GPU upgrade when the pricing is viable.
Should've been called the Ryzen 7 5700F (or even 5700AF would've been a nice throwback) since they literally did that with the 7500F, albeit that CPU is identical to the 7600 (just minus the iGPU) which is ALSO "mostly" identical to the 7600X, the only meaningful difference being 65w TDP vs 105w and the base/boost clocks. But otherwise all 3 of those Zen 4 based Ryzen 5s all have the same core architecture, PCIe support, total cache, and can almost perform within the same territory based on silicon lottery/peak clock speed.
The 5700 on the other hand, is a iGPU-less 5700G which was already designed slightly different with its layout of Zen 3 cores and had only 1/2 of the L3 cache / supported PCIe 3.0 only compared to the 5700X and 5800X. I guess it would be an "acceptable" upgrade for someone looking for the cheapest possible 8-core on AM4 with the most IPC...though you might as well just get a 5700X for ~$150 or so. Or a 5600 for ~$100-120 and OC it to 4.6Ghz+ all-core and run 3600Mhz+ RAM with a low CL
Ryzen 7 5700Y, because why would you buy it at it's current price?
Guys my xeon e5 2620 v4 and rx 5500xt is restarting when i play fifa 23 and uncharted 4 anyone have a fix
Play better games
Looks like psu problem but my be your gou is hitting 90 degree safe limit temps change thermal paste
Your pc or gpu might get burned soon in both problems
check your temps as one reply has said. also check if your psu can handle your system, there are stress tests like unigine heaven
repaste if overheating is a problem. please look for guides online if you are confused about repasting.
@@MightyHuzarionbruh 😭😭
@@mrshinobigaming8447it’s a basic 500 w psu am getting a bronze one soon maybe that’s the problem
Amd's whole naming structure confuse me
3:33 You should have compared it to the 8500G too
You should review ryzen 5500GT and ryzen 5600GT
Thank you for the information. It will help me save money.
God bless you! Assalamualaikum.
I would say 5700F, but the problem is that the only other CPU using this suffix, the 7500F, is actually a GPU-less 7600 with 100 MHz off the clocks but the full 32 MiB L3. It is a mess.
I have the Ryzen 5700G and it's great for gaming and work, specially now that my RX570 died.
hope this doesn't hurt your chances of receiving amd products for review. at least for the gpus, the chip integrators can send you review samples
I wouldn’t think so. Not every product can be a good choice. That said, this wouldn’t be a bad choice at all if it was cheaper
i bought a 8700F for $149 today which also has half the cache than its counterpart the 7700 and also has an older pcie connection 4vs5 so this is a regularity in amd for some reasons amd just does these cpus
Meh if they get the price below $150 USD I'd say it would still be a good buy as many won't be just running a SP game, they will be running a game AND running Discord AND Spotify AND having some browser tabs open and I found coming from a 3600 to a 5700X in just gaming there wasn't much difference, but multitasking is where having extra threads does help.
The vast majority of people won’t be running discord etc alongside their game, that’s really niche.
i replaced my 4500 with a 5700x last week i only paid £140 for it open box new this cpu does not make sence to me 5600 is cheaper and has pcie 4 support. can you compare this cpu to a 5600 or 5600x ect
5700G has a audio crackle issue, infinity fabric issues
i'd say it should be 5710, a non-standard name for a rather peculiar part. Intel does the same with with their OEM parts like the infamous Intel Core I3 5005U.
intels naming is shit too.
5700 is a better and more easily found name than 5710. Your suggestion would give them less sales.
Also, its not like its the first of its kind.
And since it is like the 5700g, the naming makes more sense than others, 5700x should just be 5800. And 5600g should've been 5500g.
AMD has been super cheeky with names for years. Ryzen 2000 APUs actually being Zen 1, Ryzen 5000 Apus actually being Zen 2, Ryzen 4000 cpus actually being 3000 cores, 5k, 7k, 3k ryzen skus all had different CPUs names the same, HD 7870-GHZ-270x-370x 😂
why amd keep releasing the am4 platform instead of entry level am5 cpu ryzen 3
AM5 is more expensive, and only allows DDR5. It's also good that they keep supporting AM4
@@Giuliana-w1f ik but they not releasing the entry ryzen 3 in am5 platform
also they releasing ryzen 5 5600gt and 5500gt lately, still waiting for someone to review this gt version apu's performance
@@CasuallyHuman099 a 4 core CPU that you have to get an AM5 and DDR5 ram for doesn't make much sense
Edit: even if it doesn't make sense, there's an 8300G for some reason. 4C8T, 3.4Ghz base, 4.9Ghz boost
@@Giuliana-w1f for an entry level why not? not only cores count but the instructions set they put on latest am5 which is avx512 for an entry level CPU is great, why u said not make any sense, again entry level on latest platform is not only cores count but upgraded clock speed, efficiency, and ofc futures proof for longer upgrades and supports
This is a really misleading name. Because we've had a 1700, 2700, and 3700 which were "normal" in terms of cache and PCI lanes as the X version. They should have just made a new line of CPU's, when they did this kind of thing before Ryzen they called the CPU's "Athlon", so it was very clear what they were.
Would he better than 3600 in 1080p?
I'm just hoping that it is a cheap 5700X alternative, but I'm totally wrong 😅
It should be named as 5700GF 😵💫
5700x is already lower clocked 5800x, they would just lower its price then.
Holy sh!t red dead redemption 2 looks beautiful ❤️❤️
This one is a bit upsetting to me. They’ve offered these igpu less chips before, but Ive never seen a more expensive R7 have fewer features than the R5 with the same naming conventions. Pretty shameful because even people like me that do their homework could easily miss this.
its basically Ryzen 7 5800H then?
I got this same CPU I got it last year..I was kinda confused when they said it was a new CPU I got mine last July...then I seen it was available in pre-built computer's that's where mine must have came from. It was brand new and I paid 100 dollars for it.not a bad CPU.
Yeah not bad for that money at all
@@RandomGaminginHD that's what i thought..that's why I jumped on it.
Nice video
Tbh, it looks to me like AMD had a lot of binned chips to sell and needed to find a place in their product stack they could fit them...
Ryzen 7 5700X currently £160.34 sold by amazon!
Yep exactly. Seems to have dropped again since upload!
@@RandomGaminginHD Only £135 in CEX now too.
I just paid AUD$269 for a 5700X, that’s only AUD$30 more than what I paid for the 5600 it replaced!
@@ianweber9248 That's cheap if it includes sale VAT. Works out under £140.
5700GF - confusing, yet most informative, given the current nomenclature
What it also means there likely won't be "5750" or "5745" variant, so ECC and TSME are off the table
Unleeeeeeess this isn't already a 5750G at its core, which I kind of doubt
Unpopular opinion: integrated graphics should return to being a motherboard feature instead of a CPU feature. In fact, they should be socketable and upgradeable.
Gotta admit that the naming of this CPU was done horribly wrong. Even I thought first that this is just a lower-clocked 5700X before I did some research.
Anyone looking at this should just get the 5800X3D instead. It's arguably the best chip in the 5xxx series, and the best upgrade you can do on AM4.
5700 should named as 5700E, which could see as an iGPU cut down version of the GE suffix with higher TDP, F suffix are already used on 7500F with full pcie 5.0/24lane/32M Cache, APU cut down CPU should not be named with F in AMD side.
Given you can pick up a 5800X (non 3d) right now for only £7 more than this I know where I would spend my money. In fact that's where I did spend my money a couple of weeks back to upgrade my ageing 3600
The PRICE is just bad if they lower it
It could be a good upgrade from a 1000 or 2000 series even a 3000 series
Not very much of an upgrade from 3000 series, taking into account that a 5600G performs *exactly* the same as a 3600, so at best it would perform like a 3700X (or maybe even worse)
@@alexg9601 yeah sure but those who have a 3100 or 3400g will definitely benefit from it
Good video
Confusing? No, the naming is a trap.
im currently using the 7 5700 and i dont think it was worth the money. (I didn't know what i was buying)
It's in the same class as the 5500, but there is no 5500X to add confusion
Ryzen 7 5700LC - Low Cache/Lower Clock
new 5700: absolute piece of shyt
new 5700X3D: the second best cpu you can get on AM4
i have a 5700x and its a really good CPU that will be still hold up for at least next 5 years... those processor with vega graphics kind screw on future
Very satisfied with my 5700X after upgrading from a 3600XT. The upgrade to multi-core performance is especially drastic.
I was thinking the same thing with my 5800X3D. I hope it holds up for 5 years more
One thing Intel and AMD have in common: Alphanumeric naming schemes that will confuse the hell out of consumers.
I Love AMD for making a bang in the market. It still makes it but way less than intel. I was a die hard Intel fan, until I heard of cheap but decent graphics inside the CPU that were insanely better than Intels counterpart. Now I'll never go blue again
Cezanne 5700, no one who bought those, OEMs and SIs (5700G no iGPU forced on them probably?, haha) in a primary procurement package paid anything for them before brokering off Cezanne 5700 into the open market. Buy enough PC kit to ask for one as purchase sales close incentive for free. mb
Do for i5 4690
They should've called it the Ryzen 7 5700D
I would get the 5600x instead. Running that in my RX 6800 XT system and it handles 1440p ultra settings and even 4k at high settings.
Ryzen 5 5600AF. This would be win win situation for AMD.
Maybe 5700F, like the 7500F (no graphics either)
Yeah that makes sense. They’ve used F before so would make sense here too
AND it is priced HIGHER than the 5700x here in Australia ,,,,, taking the pizzzz
Nobody else saw that aim at 0:59?
This should be branded an "Athlon" and priced appropriately.
This makes me feel better with my 5600 non-X purchase a few months ago