You can farm about 4 divs per hour with investment 2-3 divs in your build or even less. For example ultimatum 10 trials in average 4 divs per hour if you can run 4 trials per hour. If you cant farm ultimatum with investment about 5 divs - your build is bad.
@@BearedExile My build is solid, but as a new poe player I need more info on what to farm. Gonna do some more ultimatums and test your hypothesis. Invested in two more pieces with rarity on them, so hopefully I'll see some improvement. I've just been doing maps so far, so that's on me. I only did ultimatum and trial to get my 4th ascendancy (and never went back)
@@moldgrim1 Keep in mind that when people talk about div per hour, they're also selling everything that isn't nailed down. So if you're talking about raw div drops, that's a whole other thing. lol And god forbid you're playing on console. No loot filter or third party tools to check prices of things on the fly is a huge achilles heel for console.
@@ragnarokda206 true. I got 8 divines last night, after changing up my farm method and the gain in rarity on e items. 2 raw drops and 6 from currency exchange.
Interesting method of balancing breach GGG thought of... They made breaches insane for currency drops, but then annoy the player with picking up splinters one at a time in hopes only insane players would do the mechanic
I ran 300% Rarity for about 2 hours and my build was way slower and I dropped only about 20% more currency. None of it being more divines than usual so I'll take the character power over Rarity for now at least
@@mariobourceanu816 400 iir sparker here.. didnt really notice lower clear speed when swapping to magic find gear. divines are still miserable for me maybe 1/100 maps. i get like 5-10 ex per map depending on the amount of rares though
@@p.h.904 wow 400 its a lot! I think people whatchin only highlight divine is the problem because i noticed the same thing, i dropped like 2 divine in 10 hours of gameplay so I dont understand where is that much problem with item rarity. When I swapped to item rarity I expected a divine shower ahahah
@@mariobourceanu816 same :D i thought id get one every 3 maps or smth like that ... i get 207 iir from my shield alone (mahuxotl) the remaining iir comes mostly from rings+ingenuity combo and some on other gears.. but tbf i just dropped down to 360ish iir to get way more damage and tankiness.. rocking 6k mana now
The entire endgame is a joke. Anyone who's doing juiced maps and setting up towers are either streamers who pretend to have a job, or people who spend hours a day playing the same shit. It's beyond tedious and a time sink. Normal players with actual jobs and a life outside wont ever do this bullshit.
Definitely your average map no insane tablet setups not like quantity has always been the king of path. good thing we get 10 breaches every map as well, Also good thing everyone has a couple mirror build to run high deli maps stacked with mods.
He would still get 5 times the loot if he had rarity though and probably just as much with no prior setup as well which is the main point. This is literally "look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power" meme
How did you keep your map when you froze? That's happened to me multiple times and I lose all xp/loot I picked up in map and lose the map - it's like it fully rolls back.
Goodness... Just closed the game after completing a 365% increased waystone drop chance T14 that gave me 2 T8 and 1 T2. Like, I wish I could have a tenth of the waystone drop rate I am seeing. I might be due for a break hahahaha. Thanks for sharing, cheers!
Afaik the number 1 and 2 sources of loot is having tablets that overlay several maps simultaneously (refer to empyrean's video on this) PLUS rolling maps effectively for prefixes + useful delirium anointing. You can use the oils/distilled emotions to add rarity/monster density and map rarity from all sources is supposedly NOT diminishing, whereas on a player it IS diminishing.
"Reddit said rarity mandatory" Well, most of the POE CC's I've seen also say that... only Ghazzy I've seen say Breach is the culprit and not rarity itself. Everyone else says deleting rarity is the only way to save poe2
maybe a hot take but I genuinely enjoy MF stats as it lets you make tough choices while gearing and creates more room for min maxing a character, POE is problem solving at the end of the day and finding affixes to fit MF in is another enjoyable problem to solve while being incredibly rewarding.
@@WizardOrangeScorpion People argue that certain playstyles can get rarity easier than others which makes it unfair. Sirgog even said Rarity is the thing that ruins build diversity
@@Tibasu That's very true to be fair, However if we allow every build to fix every problem then everything is the same. MF is only so prominent right now due to the lack of tile set loot mechanics and majority of good loot being ground loot. MF also does nothing for dedicated boss farm.
@@WizardOrangeScorpionI mean, I see where you’re coming from. One of my favorite builds to design in all of POE has been the rarity support witch i’m making right now. But MF itself is incredibly lackluster. Its not so much a problem to solve as a sacrifice of power for more loot. If there were some skills that were weaker but gave big rarity mods for instance I would like it a lot more. Right now you either have rarity and get less loot, or you do have rarity and get more loot.
the disconnect and not rolling back was lucky. Yesterday i got a freeze/crash twice and both times i came back into the game i was rolled back. inventory empty and map closed (and i didn't die, i was following my exp) Even one of the times i Fucking leveled up to 92. when i came back into the game i was still level 91 at 98% exp. fix your game GGG
I saw some folks theorise that it has diminishing returns. I did some limited testing with 0 and 80% and there was a *very* noticeable difference. (80% rarity was in act3 on a support witch. 0% was in T3 maps. Both made the same number of exalts in the same time period). Now my test may have been a bit skewed. The maps had few rares and the zones I cleared with the witch had a suprising amount of rares. But still, I don’t see myself tryharding in T15 maps when a rarity character can earn the same loot in T13’s at a much lower risk.
Rarity being overpowered is the biggest lie streamers have propagated to the masses. Do not, I repeat, do not spend all your $ on rarity gear - as someone who has 550, it's not worth it. Clearing faster is way better so unless your .1% who have a group to take advantage of this don't even consider it.
And when GGG comes out and eventually nerfs rarity, anyone who ACTUALLY knows what theyre doing will still be dropping the same amount of currency. I cant wait for it to happen and to see all the reddit frogs continue to complain once they realize that rarity wasnt the real culprit. Rarity is being scapegoated by liars and morons.
@@manelbonayaltadill4942 you guys never tried rarity right? played over 50maps with over 350%rarity and i found more divines without any rarity thats why .. its just a streamer bait
195 hours here. 3 divs total. The inflation is faster than my currency farm.
That’s a skill issue for sure.
You can farm about 4 divs per hour with investment 2-3 divs in your build or even less. For example ultimatum 10 trials in average 4 divs per hour if you can run 4 trials per hour. If you cant farm ultimatum with investment about 5 divs - your build is bad.
@@BearedExile My build is solid, but as a new poe player I need more info on what to farm. Gonna do some more ultimatums and test your hypothesis. Invested in two more pieces with rarity on them, so hopefully I'll see some improvement. I've just been doing maps so far, so that's on me. I only did ultimatum and trial to get my 4th ascendancy (and never went back)
@@moldgrim1 Keep in mind that when people talk about div per hour, they're also selling everything that isn't nailed down. So if you're talking about raw div drops, that's a whole other thing. lol
And god forbid you're playing on console. No loot filter or third party tools to check prices of things on the fly is a huge achilles heel for console.
@@ragnarokda206 true. I got 8 divines last night, after changing up my farm method and the gain in rarity on e items. 2 raw drops and 6 from currency exchange.
Interesting method of balancing breach GGG thought of... They made breaches insane for currency drops, but then annoy the player with picking up splinters one at a time in hopes only insane players would do the mechanic
I hide the splinters in my filter atp, makes me stay sane
@@Greenblade21whatt are you rich breachstones sell for like 70 exalt
Welcome back to old POE1 where their mentality was no stacks because clicking is good. POE2 doing the same all over again, lol.
@@girlrot1999 I only pick up 2x splinters+, keep me sane
Breach blasting on PS5 is so miserable without any item filters...
Imagine how good it would be with rarity tho
I ran 300% Rarity for about 2 hours and my build was way slower and I dropped only about 20% more currency. None of it being more divines than usual so I'll take the character power over Rarity for now at least
I changed from 0 to 160 rarity and in a 10 breach I dropped 0 div with well rolled tablet and map, I think it's all rng after all
@@mariobourceanu816 400 iir sparker here.. didnt really notice lower clear speed when swapping to magic find gear. divines are still miserable for me maybe 1/100 maps. i get like 5-10 ex per map depending on the amount of rares though
@@p.h.904 wow 400 its a lot! I think people whatchin only highlight divine is the problem because i noticed the same thing, i dropped like 2 divine in 10 hours of gameplay so I dont understand where is that much problem with item rarity. When I swapped to item rarity I expected a divine shower ahahah
@@mariobourceanu816 same :D i thought id get one every 3 maps or smth like that ... i get 207 iir from my shield alone (mahuxotl) the remaining iir comes mostly from rings+ingenuity combo and some on other gears.. but tbf i just dropped down to 360ish iir to get way more damage and tankiness.. rocking 6k mana now
This video gives me anxiety knowing there's a common issue that makes your game crash when there's too much hidden loot on the ground
Hmm is that what’s happpening for me
The entire endgame is a joke. Anyone who's doing juiced maps and setting up towers are either streamers who pretend to have a job, or people who spend hours a day playing the same shit. It's beyond tedious and a time sink. Normal players with actual jobs and a life outside wont ever do this bullshit.
Can we see a snapshot of your gear and passives or is it basically Squishys build.
I also really want to see his gear and tree.
@ apparently homie doesn’t want to show it lol. Weird.
@@vzwson4995 Found a clip on his twitch from 2 days ago that shows gear:
www.twitch.tv/videos/2337648349
Sushi I like your build but the max roll link just takes me to a weird page lol where is your build and or what is it called? Thanks 🙏❤
Ok but serious question: I need your graphic settings cause If I run that map I'd get like 10fps average
Turn on dynamic particle culling or whatever it's called.
Sushi is on 4090 soooo
i'd also hit the 10 breach savannah map, delirium and guess what? no divine
What loot filter is this? Can you share please?
Welcome back sextant juicing
THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE! Reddit said you need rarity to get loot. I think this video is green screen.
Definitely your average map no insane tablet setups not like quantity has always been the king of path. good thing we get 10 breaches every map as well, Also good thing everyone has a couple mirror build to run high deli maps stacked with mods.
@@Vliesie More investment gives better results? Holy fuck what a shitty concept
He would still get 5 times the loot if he had rarity though and probably just as much with no prior setup as well which is the main point. This is literally "look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power" meme
Quantity is better on tablets. Rarity on gear. Like sushi did, you juice close to 100% quantity on maps. Your gear carries even further with rarity.
If anything this video proves Reddits point lol
Stupid question, how is it possible to get 120 Quant prefix with a 20% Tablet? Do they Stack if they Hit same maps?
yes. hes overlapping tablets
How did you keep your map when you froze? That's happened to me multiple times and I lose all xp/loot I picked up in map and lose the map - it's like it fully rolls back.
Yeah, I was flabbergasted too, cause I've lost 2 out of 3 10-breach maps bc of this shit, and was never able to rejoin the area
How do you know how many breaches u have left?
Goodness... Just closed the game after completing a 365% increased waystone drop chance T14 that gave me 2 T8 and 1 T2. Like, I wish I could have a tenth of the waystone drop rate I am seeing. I might be due for a break hahahaha. Thanks for sharing, cheers!
I have so many questions... how are you able to do this like this... and how would you go about gearing up to do this?
Afaik the number 1 and 2 sources of loot is having tablets that overlay several maps simultaneously (refer to empyrean's video on this) PLUS rolling maps effectively for prefixes + useful delirium anointing. You can use the oils/distilled emotions to add rarity/monster density and map rarity from all sources is supposedly NOT diminishing, whereas on a player it IS diminishing.
Guys what's the keys to hide the loot and all that?
Z to hide all
Yeah this build destroys everything, its so good for the current game content.
Wonder if he dc because of all the items on ground
how are you getting deli map drops?
he has the simu atlas point
Yeah I don't think the Redditors complaining about loot are spending hours prepping the juiciest maps possible.
can you share your loot filter
"Reddit said rarity mandatory" Well, most of the POE CC's I've seen also say that... only Ghazzy I've seen say Breach is the culprit and not rarity itself. Everyone else says deleting rarity is the only way to save poe2
maybe a hot take but I genuinely enjoy MF stats as it lets you make tough choices while gearing and creates more room for min maxing a character, POE is problem solving at the end of the day and finding affixes to fit MF in is another enjoyable problem to solve while being incredibly rewarding.
@@WizardOrangeScorpion People argue that certain playstyles can get rarity easier than others which makes it unfair. Sirgog even said Rarity is the thing that ruins build diversity
@@Tibasu That's very true to be fair, However if we allow every build to fix every problem then everything is the same. MF is only so prominent right now due to the lack of tile set loot mechanics and majority of good loot being ground loot. MF also does nothing for dedicated boss farm.
Imagine if he had 300+ rarity on top of all this quant
@@WizardOrangeScorpionI mean, I see where you’re coming from.
One of my favorite builds to design in all of POE has been the rarity support witch i’m making right now.
But MF itself is incredibly lackluster. Its not so much a problem to solve as a sacrifice of power for more loot.
If there were some skills that were weaker but gave big rarity mods for instance I would like it a lot more.
Right now you either have rarity and get less loot, or you do have rarity and get more loot.
the disconnect and not rolling back was lucky. Yesterday i got a freeze/crash twice and both times i came back into the game i was rolled back. inventory empty and map closed (and i didn't die, i was following my exp)
Even one of the times i Fucking leveled up to 92. when i came back into the game i was still level 91 at 98% exp. fix your game GGG
just curious... gives extra points for skill tree when u go back to level 92 😅?
can I have your loot filter? thanks
How do you have multiple breaches?
breaches tree(talents) there is a point that gives you a 2% chance to get 10 breaches
Should have restarted before going into that map in case the hourly game crash decided to proc during it
played for well over 200 hours already on a 3 gen old I7 and a 2060 laptop with heating issues and have yet to crash a single time in my 200 hours
2 divines in 3 mins meanwhile i cant find 1 for days
No matter how good the loot looks rarity would have improved it. Thats a fact
I should have rerolled archmage spark. I thought they would nerf it before new years..
This is why you should be picking your stuff!
Keep yapping buddy
wats the filter you use?
Blud expects Everyone to run beta mage build
You can do it ln a monk pretty easily. Deadeye also have more than enough clear for it but need a good defensive set up or the 30 div flask.
any cold damage+herald of ice+Polcirkeln Sapphire Ring = clear breach ez
How did you get so much mana?
works only with breaches, useless without. had like 4 ex without breaches with 200 quant and 200 rarity
how does he ahve 0 es, when i take Mind over matter and eldritchbattery with CI i still hve decent es
Don't use Everlasting gaze amulet and go full dps on tree
he converts ES to mana
I think all the streamers blowing rarity out of proportion... I have 80% and then tried 250 and I couldn't tell a difference really imo
I saw some folks theorise that it has diminishing returns.
I did some limited testing with 0 and 80% and there was a *very* noticeable difference.
(80% rarity was in act3 on a support witch. 0% was in T3 maps. Both made the same number of exalts in the same time period).
Now my test may have been a bit skewed. The maps had few rares and the zones I cleared with the witch had a suprising amount of rares. But still, I don’t see myself tryharding in T15 maps when a rarity character can earn the same loot in T13’s at a much lower risk.
0 to 100 is noticeable, going past that not so much
where do you buy tainted oils
They don't exist it's an item that exists on the engine fro poe 1. For now you can't annoit corrupted items, maybe in the future
Are you telling me you only have 22% rarity on your gear and you dropped this much ?
Yeah, breach + quant tablet is crazy
Rarity being overpowered is the biggest lie streamers have propagated to the masses. Do not, I repeat, do not spend all your $ on rarity gear - as someone who has 550, it's not worth it. Clearing faster is way better so unless your .1% who have a group to take advantage of this don't even consider it.
This is common knowledge that rarity has diminishing returns and nobody said otherwise, even on poe2 xd
Redditors are just modern day Karens with hunchbacks
can i use your filter?
exile exchange causing crashes btw
Fix your damn stash. Holyyyy
Quantity > rarity all day
Godlike!
Quant good i guess
And when GGG comes out and eventually nerfs rarity, anyone who ACTUALLY knows what theyre doing will still be dropping the same amount of currency. I cant wait for it to happen and to see all the reddit frogs continue to complain once they realize that rarity wasnt the real culprit. Rarity is being scapegoated by liars and morons.
What matters is rarity on the map when ppl Will understand that they Will drop currencies
my favorite poe2 youtuber rn
Dog dog?
This is so wrong xD Hopefully we can get this patched soon enough :D
Pleb
I don't find shit with stacked rarity and level 15 maps, and these GD streamers are going to get drops nerfed to hell and back! So annoying
You need IIQ + IIR
@@tarotaro6933 What the hell is that? Haha.
@@nin114 increased item quantity + increased item rarity.
@@Trogderpinator Oh yes. How do you increase quantity? Atlas passives?
@@nin114 also curious there doesent seem to be many ways to increase quantity
And as usual rich people just play a different game
farm some currency and be the same
as usual people still complain instead of playing their OWN game. comparisons will only lead to your own lack of enjoyment
@@tykobray4132 I’m playing my own game and having fun don’t worry ^^ I was just stating a fact.
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Why people still believe rarity affects currency drops?
It does… Player rarity affects almost every aspect of loot you get, although its not as insane as what people made it out to be.
@bisha9347 not currency :)
@@Sheepiiiwhy do you believe it doesn’t?
@@Sheepiii because it does. You must be thinking of PoE1, where it does not. But in PoE2 it does affect currency.
@@manelbonayaltadill4942 you guys never tried rarity right? played over 50maps with over 350%rarity and i found more divines without any rarity thats why .. its just a streamer bait
Play with Rarity abuse is the noob playstyle
hes not mf'ing rtard